The Ghorbanifar Meetings Timeline
The SSCI report on the Rome meeting has a really funny footnote.
Mr. Franklin is currently awaiting direction from the Department of Justice to report to prison on matters unrelated to those discussed in this report. He was indicted in August 2005 along with two employees of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) for conspiring with each other to unlawfully disclose classified national defense information. Mr. Franklin subsequently pled guilty, and was sentenced in January 2006 on three felony counts: conspiracy to communicate national defense information to persons not entitled to receive it; conspiracy to communicate classified information to an agent of a foreign government; and the unlawful retention of national defense information.
The footnote is funny (in addition to the fact that it misstates when Franklin was first indicted) because Franklin pled guilty to dealing information about Iran to AIPAC. The reason Franklin did so was not because of money or blackmail, but because he disagreed with US policy on Iran, and was happy to work with AIPAC to pressure the government into a more hawkish policy on Iran. Which is pretty much what was happening with the Ghorbanifar information. As DOD’s own Counterintelligence Field Activity (CIFA) report suggested,
Ghorbanifar or his associates are being used as agents of a foreign intelligence service to leverage his continuing contact with Michael Ledeen and others to reach into and influence the highest levels of the U.S. Government.
Along with a lot of other crappy "intelligence," Ghorbanifar was floating plans to overthrow the regime in Iran, so the end goal of both the AIPAC effort and Ledeen and Ghorbanifar’s efforts was regime change in Iran.
The suggestion that Franklin’s indictment is unrelated to the Ghorbanifar meetings is also funny because, while Franklin claimed he did not know Ledeen in 2001 when Ledeen selected him to attend the Rome meeting, by fall 2004, Ledeen was intervening to get Plato Cacheris to represent Franklin in the AIPAC scandal. Thus, while there’s no reason to believe the Israelis were involved in the Rome meeting, the same group of Neocons were involved in parallel efforts to undercut US efforts to establish closer relations with Iran.
Now, as Laura Rozen revealed, it appears that this thing is not over–she reports that Harold Rhode has lawyered up. Rhode refused to cooperate with the SSCI’s most recent efforts to investigate this meeting last fall, which suggests he has gotten much more reluctant to talk about what happened (and DOD says he has forgotten what he said in 2004, displaying the forgetfulness all Bush Administration criminals seem to share). But if you think about it, there are only two logical explanations for why–two and a half years after Larry Franklin pled guilty to sharing defense information–he is still "awaiting direction from DOJ to report to prison." Either someone high up in the Administration intervened to keep Franklin out of the pokey (OVP is named in the SSCI report, and we know Dick Cheney has prevented allies from going to prison before), or Franklin has been cooperating with investigators for two and a half years. (His docket just shows a "delayed reporting date."
With all that said, I decided to look more closely at the timeline involved. What follows combines several timelines: the timeline of both the meetings and the investigations into those meetings from the SSCI report, key details from Franklin’s indictment, and details of attempts to foster closer relations with Iran detailed in this Flynt Leverett op-ed. I’ll say more about what this timeline shows in follow-up posts.
September 9. 2001: Condi demands an investigation into a leak that ended up in NYT story; the leak would lead to AIPAC investigation
Before November 7, 2001: Ledeen calls Rodman; Rodman says no to Rome meeting
Before November 7, 2001: Ledeen calls Hadley, claims Iranians want to defect
November 7, 2001: Hadley calls Wolfowitz, who instructs Rodman to approve the meeting
November 15, 2001: Rodman checks with DOD General Counsel Haynes on whether DOD can accept defectors
December 9. 2001: Powell publicly mentions meetings with Iran
December 2001: US requests Iran prevent Gulbuddin Hekmatyar from returning to Afghanistan
December 10-13, 2001: First Rome meetings
December 12, 2001: Sembler and Ledeen meet
December 23, 2001: Sembler hosts Ledeen; Ledeen says US should support deal with Ghorbanifar’s Iranians
January 2002: Franklin report on meeting
Early 2002: Franklin contacted by "official from the Office of the Vice President" regarding Ghorbanifar
January 7, 2002: Rodman drafts–but doesn’t send–summary of meeting for Wolfowitz
January 14, 2002: Meeting with DCI reveals details of meetings
January 16, 2002: Ledeen meeting with Hadley
January 29, 2002: Bush names Iran in "axis of evil"
January 31, 2002: Handwritten note exchange between Rodman and Wolfowitz, with the latter stressing secrecy
February 1, 2002: Marc Grossman inquires about meeting after learning of Ledeen summary for Hadley; does not identify Rhode as one of the participants
February 2, 2002: Rodman meeting with DIA Director Wilson
February 5, 2002: Rodman prepares draft memo from Wolfie to Rummy
February 8, 2002: State Department cable on meetings
February 9, 2002: CIA and State oppose further meetings
February 2002: CIA’s Deputy Director of Operations Pavitt establishes channel for Ledeen to contact agency about any further contacts
February 12, 2002: Rodman summary on meeting (mentioning oil contracts); drafted with Franklin assistance
Early 2002: Luti and another DOD official tell Rhode activity had been shut off
April 2002: "Executive referral" from OSD to Defense HUMINT to meet with Ledeen
May 10, 2002: Newt Gingrich faxes Ledeen memo to Rumsfeld
June 27, 2002: Rumsfeld documented as having read Ledeen memo (DOD claims the memo "passed through" Rumsfeld’s office)
July 4, 2002: Ledeen contacts Sembler about further meetings with Ghobanifar in Italy
July 13, 2002: Wolfowitz assistant tells Rodman Tenet supported contacts; Charles Allen to coordinate
July 15, 16, 2002: CIA cables on meeting
July 18, 2002: Sembler alerts Marc Grossman that Ledeen contacted him on July 4 regarding further meetings in Rome in August
July 19, 2002: Rodman action memo (citing multi-million dollar business deals) in response to Ledeen memo recommends ongoing contact with CIA coordination
July 25, 2002: Feith reviews Rodman action memo
July 25, 2002: CIA cable reflecting Powell’s lack of approval for contacts
August 8, 2002: CIA cable reflecting NSC legal advisor stating Hadley had "chastised" Ledeen for ongoing efforts on this matter
August 15, 2002: Franklin returns Steve Rosen contact about discussing Iran
August 21, 2002: Franklin and Rosen postpone meeting
September 4, 2002: Sembler in DC told Ledeen’s activities would not continue
December 2002: Rhode has "chance meeting" with Iranians while attending Iraqi opposition conference in London; Rhode informs his supervisor of meeting, but does not document it
January 2003: Pat Roberts becomes Chair of SSCI
February 12, 2003: Franklin and Steve Rosen and Keith Weissman discuss draft internal policy document regarding "Middle Eastern country"
March 13, 2003: Rosen discloses information on policy document to "senior fellow" at DC think tank (Ledeen?)
March 17, 2003: Franklin faxes Rosen contents of appendix from internal policy document
March 18, 2003: Rosen leaks details of policy document to WaPo’s Michael Dobbs, saying "I’m not supposed to know this"
April 2003: Iran proposes re-establishing relations; US rejects proposal because Iranian government "on the verge of collapse"
May 3, 2003: US and Iran in negotiations in Geneva
May 7, 2003: Rhode apparently stages "find" of anti-Israel materials in Iraq (and uranium document) with Ahmed Chalabi; Judy Miller reports it
Late May, 2003: Ledeen sends new letter outlining Ghorbanifar plan to Feith, including promise of finding "Iraqi weapons of mass destruction that had been moved to Iran"
May 21, 2003: US cancels Geneva meeting with Iran, accusing Iran of harboring Al Qaeda leaders
May 25, 2003: Report (quoting Rummy elsewhere) that US considering using MEK to launch attack on Iran
June 2, 2003: Feith forwards Ledeen letter to Cambone; "let’s discuss"
June 2003: While in Istanbul at conference on US/Turkish relations, two Middle East experts from OVP asks Rhode to meet with Iranian Professor, Palestinian, and others in Paris in lieu of them
June 15, 2003: WaPo publishes article based on policy document leaked on March 18; the article quotes both Ledeen and Leverett
June 26, 2003: Franklin meets with Rosen and Weissman, gives information about potential attacks in US troops in Iraq
June 28, 2003: Feith writes letter to Pat Roberts on "the cell set up in his office to review intelligence"
June 30 and July 1, 2003: While in Paris filling in for OVP employees, Rhode meets with Ghorbanifar (Ledeen arranges meeting)
July 14, 2003: Roberts informs Tenet that he met with Ledeen "at the urging of Senators Santorum, Kyl and Brownback"; Roberts asks Tenet for comment
July 2003: FBI begins investigation of Larry Franklin
August 2003: DOD IG Rome review
August 2003: Rhode continues to receive contacts from Ghorbanifar
August 6, 2003: Ledeen meets with several DOD intelligence figures to "discuss a source who knew where enriched uranium was buried in Iraq"; Ghorbanifar was conduit to this source
August 8, 2003: Newsday reports on Paris meeting
August 9, 2003: WaPo reports on Rome and Paris meeting
August 9, 2003: Rhode recalled from Iraq, where he had been liaising with Ahmad Chalabi
August 9, 2003: According to Ledeen, Rhode and Franklin ordered to stop talking to Ledeen about Iran; Franklin and Rodman do not recall such an order
August 11, 2003: Rodman prepares chronology of Iran contacts for Rumsfeld, leaving out details of June 2003 Paris meeting because it "[took] place without the knowledge" of DOD International Security Affairs or Policy
Before 2003 (unspecified): Franklin’s faxed correspondence with Ghorbanifar destroyed
September 11, 2003: Rumsfeld requests details from Wolfowitz, nothing Powell and Rice interested in response; Wolfowitz writes memo
September 2003: Wolfowitz instructs Rodman to make clear to Rhode to get "potentially sensitive contacts with foreigners approved by Policy."
September 19, 2003: At request of Wolfowitz and Feith, Cambone orders CIFA review of Ghorbanifar contacts
September 23, 2003: CIA response to Pat Roberts on Ledeen’s information stating, "none of these leads has resulted in information of significant intelligence value."
September 25, 2003: CIFA interview of Rhode
Early October 2003: Possible Rhode meeting with Ghorbanifar in Rome
October 2003: SSCI reviews Rome meetings but does not yet add it into Iraq intelligence review
October 21, 2003: Cambone orders CIFA investigation halted; report notes:
Pursuant to direction from the offices of DoD General Counsel [Haynes] and USD(I) [Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence; Cambone] the inquiry has been limited in scope. The inquiry has been restricted to interviews of some of the principal DoD personalities identified in news articles as being associated with this matter and their supervisors, review of material voluntarily provided by interviewees, review of all records from DoD agencies, and open source information.
Analysis of the information obtained by this limited scope inquiry, suggests there are several interviews of people both internal to DoD and external to DoD that have not been completed and would likely corroborate and/or enhance the information obtained to date. Analysis also suggests there are records and information possessed by the CIA that would likely corroborate and/or enhance the information obtained to date. The offices of the USD(I) and DoD General Counsel have advised CIFA not to conduct the key interviews CIFA has recommended. The DoD Office of General Counsel has not forwarded CIFA’s letter to the CIA, which was drafted dof DoD General Counsel review and dissemination.
The report lists five unresolved issues:
- A National Security Counsel staff report of a possible third meeting between Mr. Rhode and Mr. Ghorbanifar in early October 2003
- The lack of follow-up with the CIA
- The lack of understanding of the role of the Office of Vice President or the role of the National Security Counsel in the Rome and Paris meetings
- No independent corroboration of the information or timelines provided by DoD personnel involved in the two known meetings with Mr. Ghorbanifar
- The lack of information on the involvement of the foreign government in the Rome meeting
October 24, 2003: Franklin tells a foreign official that work on the policy document had been stopped
October 29, 2003: SSCI staff meeting with DOD officials
October 29, 2003: State Department ready to resume negotiations with Iran
February 2004: SSCI adds OUSD(P) activities into scope of Iraq intelligence review
February 2004: DOD puts together chronology of meeting including inaccurate description of June 2003 Ghorbanifar meeting (basically hiding the role of OVP personnel)
April 16, 2004: Assistant Secretary of Defense for Legislative Affairs letter backgrounding the meeting; the letter hides the role of OVP in the meeting
April 20, 2004: Harold Rhode interview with SSCI
April 21, 2004: Michael Ledeen interview with SSCI, claims he learned of Paris meeting by "read[ing] about it in the papers"
April 23, 2004: Larry Franklin interview with SSCI
May 2004: FBI catches Franklin leaking sensitive information and flips him
May 20, 2004: US raids Chalabi’s Iraqi compound
June 2, 2004: NYT reports that Chalabi alerted Iran that US had SigInt code
June 8, 2004: SSCI staff imterview with DIA employees
June 10, 2004: SSCI staff interviews former DIA Director Wilson
July 9, 2004: Franklin passes information on US intelligence about Middle Eastern country to Weissman
July 21, 2004: Franklin passes on information about foreign government’s covert actions in Iraq to Weissman
August 3, 2004: FBI contacts Weissman and Rosen
August 24, 2004: State Department QFRs
Week of August 22, 2004: FBI interviews American not in government about Franklin
An American not in government who was interviewed by the FBI last week described the line of questioning as a "fishing expedition" that did not include any mention of Franklin or Iran.
The FBI appeared more concerned about people this person knows who were looking for access to intelligence or classified information.
"I was left startled that in a town of award-winning journalists, law enforcement officials were asking if anyone I knew might be interested in classified information," the person said. "It was a fishing expedition. It was an extremely odd conversation."
August 27, 2004: Rosen and Weissman interviewed by FBI; Rosen warns Israeli of investigation
August 27, 2004: News of AIPAC investigation leaked; Paul McNulty put in charge of case
August 29-20, 2004: Feith, Luti, Rodman interviewed about whether they had authorized Franklin’s leaks to AIPAC
September-October 2004: Through Michael Ledeen’s intercession, Plato Cacheris agrees to represent Franklin pro bono
May 3, 2005: Franklin charged with espionage in sealed complaint
August 2005: Feith leaves DOD
September 2005: Roberts requests DOD IG investigation into "unlawful" activities of OUSD(P)
September 2005: Levin requests DOD IG investigation into "improper" activities of OUSD(P)
November 1, 2005: Harry Reid shuts down Senate in effort to restart Phase II
November 2005: DOD OIG begins investigation into Feith, stalling the SSCI investigation into Feith
January 2006: Jello Jay becomes Chair SSCI (Pat Roberts quits Committee, Kit Bond becomes Ranking Member)
January 2006: Franklin sentenced
July 13, 2006; Patton Boggs writes letter to DOD IG on behalf of Feith
February 2007: DOD OIG report on Feith’s intelligence analysis
March 6, 2007: DOD OIG report on involvement with the Rendon group
July 2007: SSCI asks DOD for details on content of and response to CIFA investigation; receives nothing
September 2007: Jello Jay asks DOD for copies of CIFA materials; receives nothing
2007: Rhode refuses to interview with SSCI
September 27, 2007: SSCI interviews Rodman
October 3, 2007: SSCI interviews Franklin
October 22, 2007: CIA QFR on Iranians at the meeting
October 24, 2007: Ledeen interview, admits he may have arranged Paris Ghorbanifar meeting
November 28 , 2007: CIA QFR on Iranians at meeting
December 19, 2007: Staff interview of DIA Analyst (about whether Iranians identified were real)
March 10, 2008: Phone interview with Tenet
March 12, 2008: DOD QFR on Rhode, Ledeen
Too rainy to weed. Now I’m back to my weekend vacation and cleaning the fridge.
Oh, I’d say you’re doing some fine weeding here, EW. This is stunning.
LS @ 12 is also stunning. ElBaradei has said he could feel forced to quit if there is an attack against Iran, and millions will march worldwide, believe me. Do the congresscritturs realize that? Would they care if they did?
never bothered them before.
When I read Bmaz who informed us EW was “pulling weeds” and then saw this post with its timeline and analysis, I concluded Bmaz must have been coining a new phrase, “pulling weeds”, that means deducing the truth by analyzing the rhetoric and using a timeline to reveal contractions and identify key areas of inquiry to find the facts about a story. I like it, “pulling weeds“
Yes.
“Wheel-isms”
Pulling weeds, Pixie Dust, and Perfecting the Time Line
Marcy — The Secret Power of the Live Blog.
Q for Obama.
If you were Prez, would you veto the FISA Bill?
“Expecting the world to treat you fairly because you are good is like
expecting the bull not to charge because you are a vegetarian.”
Plame d’Affaire conclusion:
When you find yourself in deep water, keep your mouth shut?
Dennis Wholey
Thanks ew.
digg
” An American not in government who was interviewed by the FBI last week described the line of questioning as a “fishing expedition” that did not include any mention of Franklin or Iran.
The FBI appeared more concerned about people this person knows who were looking for access to intelligence or classified information.
“I was left startled that in a town of award-winning journalists, law enforcement officials were asking if anyone I knew might be interested in classified information,” the person said. “It was a fishing expedition. It was an extremely odd conversation.”
Sort of sounds like Richard Perle’s language.
I’m thinking it’s Ledeen. But it could be either of the AIPAC defendants, who were intereviewed that week per the indictment.
I’ve updated–they were interviewed by FBI on August 27, so it may well be them.
That’s definitely Ledeen wanting people to know it was him.
Oh, right. I see what you are saying.
Gawd, this stuff is fascinating..same old characters….
Smells like a VP’s office…Chalabi, Judy….where’s Libby?…I’m quite sure it smells like the Plame leak…sniff, sniff….Iran…Iran, Cheney’s “prize”….now, Israel making a “show of force”…
The plan of these goons is old…back in the 90’s….they are only now going to go after the rest of their agenda…they only have a few “legal” months to do it…but, what do they care about “legal”…
Col. Kwiatkowski, Salon, March 10, 2004 (this Article was linked by Rayne@43)
International Herald Tribune, Nov. 3 2006
“”I was left startled that in a town of award-winning journalists, law enforcement officials were asking if anyone I knew might be interested in classified information,”
Hmmmm…now…who could this “person” be referring to as “award-winning journalists”…Is this person insinuating that law enforcement should be asking those “journalists” if anyone they knew might be interested in classified information? Thinking about an award-winning journalist who is on CNN…who has direct connections to AIPAC and used to report for them…who has published under another name. They should ask, “Little Red Riding Hood”…
Is this person suggesting that kind of journalist should be questioned instead of them…
Another tidbit:
International Herald Tribune, Nov. 3, 2006
Exactly. The “separation” of the Iraqis seems manufactured mainly by the West. They may have extremely different political views as individuals, but they can be joined at the hip socially or through family. They are Irakis first and foremost.
Chalabi seems to me to be a snake.
God almighty…I’m just not in the mood for Armageddon, but here we go again..hot on the heels of FISA, now we have this crap to deal with:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyo…..181/539848
Can I call ‘em or what?
Yes!!
Unbelievable.
LOL and just 3 threads ago people were jumping up and down and saying it was Israel doing war drills to Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran and you don’t even have to leave the banks of the Patomic to find out who wants to declare war. They only have 6 months or so, but Condi and the Congress can succeed in having bombs set off in the US–they have the rhythm and their gettin’ down with it and ready to jive.
It’s not as if Armed forces are stretched thin and the chicken hawks in Congress whose own families never enlist are ready to boogie.
This post from EW and timeline is a stellar piece of work and taking some time to digest.
It never ceases to amaze me that people are ready to believe that they “will” do “something”, but refuse to look back to see if they already “did” “something”. That is exactly why they will get away with more. What is up with that?
A snake really:
International Herald Tribune, Nov. 3 2006
I know I may be late to some of this information but with the detailing of the OVPs independent intelligence operation it seems timely. Not that the OVP was ultimately aligned with either AIPAC or the INC, afterall oil was at stake. Chalabi was simply cagey enough to realize that a secular Iraq was the most effective point of advocacy toward his more fundamental aims.
What I meant was “A snake, really?”
So on 14 April 2003 Ledeen claims to have learned about the Paris meetings ‘by reading about [it] in the newspapers.’
And four years later, on 24 Oct 2007 Ledeen has a sudden flash of recollection and admits that he ‘may have set [the Paris meetings] up‘?!
Wow.
Now that’s a
world-classgalaxy-class memory lapse.Also, 24 Aug 2004 Paul McNulty begins to oversee the case via DoJ. Presumably, he oversees the case so that he can ensure the FBI has all the resources they need to track down such potentially serious suspicions.
And why are three guys out of DoD OSP interviewed the two subsequent days after McNulty begins to oversee the case — and then nothing happens? Well, ‘nothing’ except for Ledeen getting Franklin a pro bono atty the following month…?
Seems odd.
Is the ‘Rodman’ noted here Peter Rodman, a Kissinger accolyte, and signer of PNAC? (In other words, did my Googling turn up the correct ‘Rodman’?)
Sembler = Mel, Florida developer who was a key state chair of the 2000 BushCheney election theft in Florida, IIRC? And Amb to Italy at the time of the Niger forgeries?
Mark Grossman… same name that comes up associated with ‘Sibyl Edmonds’ one presumes?
My heavens, the plot thickens.
What a brain buster.
Here are the easy bits:
Ledeen lied to the FBI at least once. He’s been in Rome and Paris. And oh, BTW, he also reads newspapers. (So — technically — he did read about those meetings in Rome and Paris; too bad he initially forgot to mention to the FBI his role in helping to set those meetings up. Tsk, tsk.)
Rhode was up to no good in Iraq with Chalabi (WTF was going on 7 May 2003, when he was caught in Iraq with ‘anti Israeli’ propaganda AND also documents about nukes…?). Why did it take four months before he was called back’ in Aug 2003 from Iraq? Who called him? Why?
——-
(This puzzler puts me in mind of the GRE Analytics Tests:
There are 3 shelves; each contains 10 compartments.
There are 27 herbs and spices.
Each herb or spice can fit in only one compartment.
One shelf has an herb or spice in each compartment.
The rosemary is next to the basil, which is next to the curry on the top shelf.
The allspice is above the cloves, but below the cardemom, which is just below the ginger…
Where are the 3 empty compartment located on the shelves?
And so on…
Maybe it was the
cardemomLedeen above themaceFranklin and to the right of thecinnamonWolfowitz…?(Can anything be to the right of a Wolfowitz? Doubtful.)
Puzzling.
I hope the FBI folks have more brains than I do.
Logic error:
which is just below the ginger…
Correction:
which is just
belownext to the ginger…Whoopsie.
Sigh. Bob S in HI will probably recognize that was not necessarily a logic error.
Sorry to mess up the thread.
Back to the timeline:
29 Oct 2003 — SSCI staff meets with DOD officials. But it’s unclear whether they were counterintell, or quite who.
Feb 2004 — SSCI expands its scope of investigation into an additional section of DOD.
Aug. 2004 — McNulty assigned at DoJ to ‘oversee’ the FBI portion of the investigation.
Now, in a perfect world, McNulty would have been brought in to help the FBI.
But given the fact that the investigation seemed to stall…
McNulty works for… who does he work for, again…?
The Grand jury names Steven J. Rosen.
I was unsure about ‘Rodman’.
The ‘Rosen’ was director of AIPAC, and if you check out anything about the AIPAC spy scandal, you’ll encounter the name almost instantly.
MadDog… $100 million the CIA paid the Rendon Group, eh?
Well, hey, what’s chump change among pals?
That’s an apt description of our money. As in, the chumps have money, let’s take it from them!
‘award-winning journalists’ sounds like they were expecting to be cornered by reporters long before the law found them.
Maybe they shouldn’t have been sending broiled quail to the reporters. [/s]
Mary mentioned this item earlier concerning retribution for the assassination of Mugniyah
And low and behold Baer turns up in the Chalabi story (as does Col. Lang):
Oh, plotted a coup, really?
No wonder Plame was a target, she was providing information which conflicted with that Chalabi provided.
Or if not Chalabi, more probably Ghorbanifar.
Oh puh-lease, pretty please, when all the threads get pulled together on this mess may it pull in Crazy Pete Hoekstra, too…
duggery-do
And to add some more spice to the mix, from WaPo yesterday:
Pfffttttt… Did someone tug Dougie Feith’s shirt on the playground? Call the wahambulance!
Nah, twas an article of clothing further down but eventually took the place of a shirt.
Wedgies and Dougie go together like Abbott and Costello.
If only!
Poor Dougie.
Typical chickenhawk wankering.
Larry Wilkerson’s written testimony is @:
http://www.thewashingtonnote.c…..stimony%20(18%20Jun%2008).htm
You can see why Feith didn’t want him sitting at the same table during a hearing.
A sample from the testimony: “These were the lawyers who set the legal background against which other-than-standard interrogation methods would be explained away as “in accord with the Geneva Conventions”, “not constituting torture”, “fully within the Article II powers of the Commander-in Chief”, and so forth. At Defense, Jim Haynes and Douglas Feith would adapt these views to their needs at the Pentagon. Indeed, in the recent book Torture Team by English barrister Philippe Sands, in extended interviews Mr. Feith appears to express no small degree of pride in having helped make the Geneva Conventions adaptable to the needs of the new interrogation regime. In my view, this was done largely through artifice not unlike the angels sitting on the pinhead. Such artifice may appeal to certain lawyers but I assure you soldiers have no use for it for they know how dangerous such arguments are when put to the hard act of execution in the field.”
Wilkerson refers to these chicken hawks as REMFs. RE stands for “Rear Echelon” and you can figure out the rest of the acronym.
I am floundering to get a grasp of the overview but the picture I am getting is that both Rumseld and Cheney understood that they would not be able to acheive an Iraqi/Iranian invasion in the context of relying on traditional intelligence sources and so they knew they would have to subcontract this work out. At the same time they had developed an assessment of the internal characters whom they believed would be loyal to the purposes of the DOD and OVP whether through PNAC, AIPAC or some other martially oriented special interest group that had practical concern parallel to corporate strategy.
In parallel media stenographers were identified who could be led to sources in the sub-contracted organization already operating in Israeli, Irani, and Iraqui contexts. Chalabi filled this role in the Iraqi/Shi’a context and as Wilkerson said he was able to spit off his information so that it would reach independent intelligence agencies appearing to be multi-sourced. This would be the particular strength of a mathematician provocateur. Chalabi was also associated with the presentation of American documents to the Iranians. Likewise Ghobanifar with his background in matter Iran/Contra, although discredited at the CIA served as a sub-contractor in the context of things Iranian and Israeli with the capacity to draw on related regional resources.
Feith, Wolfowitz, Franklin, Rhodes, Cambone, Hayes, McNulty and the like operate in an administrative context as being particularly shrewd and loyal bureaucratic operators. Hadley is the liaison to the President. Leeden is the general contractor serving the Cheney/Rumsfeld alliance. And we too get a taste of the genesis of the friction between Rice and Cheney. Players in Congress need to be likewise identified to keep the various threads of influence isolated from their true genesis and to give validity to operational fictions.
Cheney is the principle who manages the shell game and holds all the threads together to maintain maximum effectiveness and voila the impediment of the accepted epistemologies practiced in the authorized intelligence channels is overcome. Cheney and Rumsfled have reached an understanding decades ago. If an agent strays off on a personal agenda or he is otherwise of no longer of any use to the cabal it is of no particular loss if he is stripped away by an indictment or other tactical difficulty. In fact such activity increases the intrigue. And that which is intended never to be seen: The puppet strings of the executive branch above and beyond the public stage are pulled to seize the oil fields of both Iraq and Iran. Who would have counted on our hostess and critic at large with an adroit facility for disentanglement tiring of the misleading conventions of this puppet theater noir? I got here a few years ago looking for answers. We are very close.
“Haynes.”
“forged American documents”
EW
Thanks for taking on this timeline. You’ve hit some important points which are illuminating. I know some of us have been a pain in the arse wrt the AIPAC scandal, Feith and the VP.
The May – Oct 2003 events are telling…
JThomason…you’re getting the answers…
Thought this was interesting from Counter Punch 1/06:
(my bold)
For a deeper picture of one of the two top AIPAC players caught with their hands in the cookie jar, Steven Rosen, this New Yorker article about him paints the framework accurately:
And of course, none of this would have anything to do, not anything at all, with today’s marketing of the need to have a War with Iran!.
Nothing at all to do with things like this:
Which comes from this: The Last Resort: Consequences of Preventive Military Action against Iran
Be sure to read page 41 of that PDF to find the members of the Executive Committee who I’m willing to bet pay their dues promptly for membership in AIPAC.
no matter what these idiot players think, the endgame will be won by the inventors of the game.
So how much of the compromise on FISA is a part of all of this?
from August 06:
http://www.fas.org/sgp/news/se…..82806.html
Interesting, but I’m too heat-addled to follow closely. (Or maybe it’s just that I’m just older than I’ve ever been before.) How would that relate to the current FISA revisions, do some of the changes bear in some way on the AIPAC situation?
Well, I’m wondering how the wording on immunity would apply to others the President would authorize to gather and disseminate intel…Like AIPAC…
Hmmm @ 40
You might enjoy this old link about a 4 part series on Israel and their role in telecom surveillance.
The story was originally run by FOX of all places and then Fox yanked it from their archives quickly…right after the AIPAC spy story broke…
Worth watching…It will put my comments in context.
Hmmm
Sorry, here’s the link meant @ 57:
Israeli Spy Ring:
http://100777.com/node/180
This website happened to capture and save the reports.
Fascinating. And Fox News, no less. I was not following this whole AIPAC issue closely enough back then, so thanks for the discussion everyone.
What a timeline, EW.
Here’s more from that Secrecy News article:
I know…old news
Just bring the events together for questions down the line…
And that New Yorker article had this to say about the unusual Larry Franklin:
(My Bold)
“As for Franklin, Gerecht, a former Iran specialist in the C.I.A.’s Directorate of Operations, said, “It’s fair to say that Larry was impatient with Bush Administration policy on Iran.”
Why do I always get this feeling that Valerie Plame was outed to get her out of the CIA to make way for a policy of going after Iran in the GWOT by the Neocons.. and Joe Wilson’s article turned out to be a convenient way of getting it done….???? I have always felt that Plame was the target that always mattered to them, not Joe Wilson…nobody (the public) really knew who Wilson was and the story would have just died had they not gone after Plame.
Have always suspected the same. Plame was either of no consequence to them, or of incredibly great consequence; hard to believe that the dissent of a single former diplomat in the form of Wilson was a huge threat to them when they had everything else tightly sewn up, including the media. The two of them combined, though, were a very big threat, because between the two of them they knew it all.
I still wonder, too, exactly who and what Ret. Lt. Col. Karen Kwiatkowski saw roaming the halls.
No surprise at all that Gingrich was a channel, the unifying link being Luti. Just don’t turn your backs on that bastard newt.
Col. Kwiatkowski was one of the very first to blow the whistle and call bullshit on the neocon shenanigans in DOD during the run-up to the war in Iraq, when she began posting as “Deep Throat” on the Soldiers for the Truth website founded by the late Col. David Hackworth. She was a career USAF intelligence officer assigned to the office of the Secretary of Defense, IIRC. An archive of her Deep Throat postings is available here.
I’ve been surfing SFTT, which is inhabited mainly by retired military folks, since the late 90s. The place was just dripping with Clinton loathing and both writers and commenters couldn’t wait for Bush to take over the government. It was fascinating to watch their disillusionment set in.
I should have mentioned that Col. Kwiatkowski’s Deep Throat postings began in the fall of 2002 (September, IIRC). She retired from active duty in April, 2003.
Did you know that Dougie Feith was instrumental in getting the US to nix Geneva Convention policy toward prisoners far, far earlier than when Yoo’s OLC opinion was written? Like decades earlier?
Per Wiki:
Franklin was once Douglas Feith’s top Iran analyst.
detailicious. Nice reading for as saturday night.
This Administration likes to not answer questions from Congress while at the same time not claiming Executive privilege. Now they want to keep people out of jail without using a PARDON. There is a mechanism in place but they don’t want to use it.
Now this comment gives interesting insight into Feith’s understanding of methods:
Doug Feith in the WSJ, May 4, 2007. Do you suppose the fact of the invasion made a difference?
This bit, by the Lt. Col. from the piece I linked above, has always stuck in my craw sideways:
If they were working on “something worse than Iran-Contra”, Feith could give a fig about facts; he and others had dispensed with both law and history.
Maybe “Firewall” should be the next Book Salon…
Tempting, but we have so little time, seems like we can’t get out in front of these monsters, have so much to read to keep up with EW as it is let alone add anything to this. Walsh’s “Final Report” summary document is so good, worth reading if folks have the time and not the gumption/cash to get Firewall.
I think what’s worth asking: What could be “worse than Iran-Contra”?
– black ops by this administration, funded off the books, and all the lies necessary to cover them?
– the run-up to an illegitimate war?
– both of the above?
– or something worse…?
Sibel Edmonds comes to mind when I think of worse, but I don’t think she’s got the entire story.
Feith comes across as a facile bootlicker, someone who’s had it bad for Rummy and would do anything like a lapdog to please him or somebody in the corrupted, perverted chain of command. I don’t know how Sen. Levin’s office could produce a report that says this about him:
[emphasis mine]
and yet the moron is still on the loose, free to roam, not frogmarched in shackles.
There are so many other people in this up to their eyeballs besides Franklin; as long as Franklin isn’t in the poky, he’s not likely to flip. How convenient.
I think its becoming increasingly clear that Haynes has a particular gift for shutting down investigations.
Leave Manucher Ghorbanifar alone!
-Chris Crocker
OT – As I expect, many of you will cruise by the NYT to see their Sunday offerings. The lead lede is Cracking a Terrorist – Inside a 9/11 Mastermind’s Interrogation
In some ways it is an ode to the idea of “we can be nice too”, but I suspect that more will be made of some interesting details:
(My Bold)
I don’t know if these dots are connected, but the NYT has a sub article which consists of a world map graphic and following the arrow pointing to an area that is comprised by places like Israel, Saudia Arabia, Iraq, Afghanistan, the NYT says this:
Note: The two detainess they are refering to are Abu Zubaydah and Khalid Shaikh Mohammed.
And more interesting details:
And more again:
(My Bold)
And more details:
And more still:
(My Bold)
And finally this:
(My Bold)
Whatever made these guys believe that that would get them off the hook? Nuremberg. Nuremberg. Can we say it often enough? There’s a whole generation of professionals around who seem never to have heard of it. If you were involved, you are responsible, to whatever degree applies. And beyond that, we are all responsible.
The NYT article is problematic, as are the attitudes of the CIA officers quoted anonymously. They are so alert to their own and their colleagues’ humanity, to the need to humanize themselves as actors. That tone has the effect of lulling readers into thinking of what interrogators were doing as just a particular kind of highly skilled work, undertaken by well-intentioned clean-cut young men working in difficult and uncertain conditions. In other words, they still think that saying “But I’m a nice guy / he’s a nice guy / we’re the nice guys” gets you off the hook.
But it doesn’t.
Mauritania. I suspect the location was leaked; the location could have been compromised more readily than in Poland, too. (There is an odd facet to the relationship between Mauritania and the U.S. as Israel appears to be right by the U.S.’s side during key events in the relationship.)
And the “unused” descriptor is certainly questionable.
klynn (58) — just a thought experiment: imagine what the folks who installed those systems could do to a presidential candidate if he did not appear to be playing ball. (This exercise terrifies me.)
Read on a security blog that it has already happened…which explains a great deal about the last few days…
Which means both candidates are …
I just hope more read this link on this story. It makes more sense that FISA immunity is about AIPAC/Israel and the telecoms.
It also makes sense that everyone wants the AIPAC Spy case to go away.
Hoyer is quite the AIPAC supporter. I had wondered how he came out on creating a FISA compromise when he seemed in the background initially…This all makes some sense.
Here’s past praise for Hoyer from AIPAC. I don’t know if the link will work. You’ll probably have to copy and past it (BTW, so I do not get tutoring on how to use the link icon, folks it does not work for me on my computer and has not for months.)
here:
http://64.233.167.104/search?q…..=firefox-a
Obvious conclusion.If the most effective intelligence agency in history Mossad http://www.fas.org/irp/world/israel/mossad/
Revamping FISA to give coverup to AIPAC’s known spying on US intel agencies may be a very strong benefit for them and their agents. Since they have only 1200 employees that have to contract spy work out. For me one of the most disturbing revalations is that Rand Corporation is involved agian. Remember Secretary of State McNamara said after the Nam war it was a “mistake”, he had extensive advise from Rand in the Nam war runup.
With 35 of the new Bush administration official being signees of the PNAC statements and the PNAC letter to the Clinton administration requesting a ground invasion of Iraq, now pushing for bombing Iran, William Christol and Dick Cheney original members it is obvious “We the people” did not know that Isreal is making foriegn policy for the USA. That is on their best interest not ours. The fact that they are willing to break our laws and spy on our top secret branches of government is more than troublesome. The fact that they are promoting ther dissolution of our rights under FISA is an outrage. The fact that thise convicted of a spying conspiracy are not serving their sentence is like the pardon of Libby.
If ever treason was rampant it is under the Bush administration.
Marcy could overlay this work with last fall and this spring’s effort to get the Immunity included…PAA…Military Commissions Act legislation restricting our Constitutional Rights and priveledges. Mussolini was hung upside down for his treason against Italy. I do not recomend or believe that will happen, but I do believe he his family and associates have collorated to restrict the constitution of the United States to which they have sworn to protect and uphold. Pelosi and Hoyer in the House and Reid in the senate are participants in enabling this attack.
Thompson @33. Very Perceptive. Cheney is principal locus for action-with- legal-authority, albeit only delegated, to enforce steps on the overall plan of attack of The-Powers-That-Be to grab Oil/Gas resources for US-Anglo use in face of PeakOil, dwindling production. Curiouser and curiouser.
Heh. Thanks for the timeline EW.
Nice part is that DoJ counter espionage doesn’t really need to make this a 30 second sound bite. They just need to start the indictments.
Rayne,
I’m in the process of seeing if the vote in the House breaks down on AIPAC lines…
OT, report from Beijing.
Today, we saw Tiananmen Square and the Forbidden City. They are gargantuan, and totally exposed to the heat, it was mid-90s today, and what passes for sunny. The square abuts the South Gate of the Forbidden City. There is a large picture of Chairman Mao, flanked by two huge gold sets of characters, both refer to peace, one for the workers and one for the world. People line up to get their picture taken in front of the portrait and so did we. As we left, a guy pointed to his camera and his wife, and we assumed he wanted us to take a picture of the two of them, but no, he wanted to take a picture of us with his wife. So we did, grinning like the friendly souls we are. Our guide said that in the new China, country people have money, and can come to visit Beijing. We are probably the first Westerners they have ever seen in person.
There isn’t much to say about the Forbidden City: it is monumental, and recently repainted. It features the biggest stone carving in China, and there is a really nice park behind it, and it is overrun with tourists.
One of the buildings is the hall where scholars met the Emperor after passing the final examination. As our guide tells the story, there were no schools in the old China, and people learned from tutors. Then they took examinations, first at the city or province level, then at a larger level, and then at the national level, and if they passed, they would have a luxurious life. The whole place was build in the Ming Dynasty, beginning around 1420, and was occupied in the Qing Dynasty until 1911 and the collapse of the Old China.
After lunch we went to the Temple of Heaven. The guide explained the history, saying that the Emperor went there twice a year to deal with the Gods: the new harvest god and something to do with the Winter Solstice. Apparently, these ceremonies were important to the common people.
So, there are two things I can’t grasp about this culture. First, it appears that foot-binding was common through the end of the Qing Dynasty, or so our guide in Xi’an said. Second, it is unimaginable that feudalism could survive in such a huge nation. The struggles of China since the end of feudalism have been horrible. Internal wars, weakness as a nation in the face of European imperialism and Japanese aggression, the uproars of the Cultural Revolution, hundreds of thousands of deaths, it is all in their recent history. There are people alive today whose mothers had bound feet.
I’ll offer a wild guess with little factual basis, that one of the reasons that the system stayed in place so effectively was the lack of schooling for the common people, and a system for educating elites that failed the test of modernity.
This baggage of feudalism was the stage for Chairman Mao. As they say here, mistakes were made. Say what you will, it seems that eventually the way forward emerged.
I mentioned that in the Village in Guangzhou, there are lots of wealthy people whose money came from renting houses in the area, and who are illiterate, but whose dreams for their children are just like my parents dreams for me and my brothers and sisters: education leading to a good life. Somehow, China feels like a nation gathering itself for a real great leap forward.
You skipped over the part about lunch too quickly. How is the food?
The whole footbinding issue has never made sense, unless it was a form of imprisonment for women.
Hell, Western and Asian women STILL wear impossible shoes. How are spike heels, which prevent women from walking powerfully and are terrible for feet, all that much different?
Well, they are much more attractive to the men folk, for one thing. Granted, probably not the distinction ya was looking for, but…..
masaccio
If you get the chance, do see the Summer Palace. Compared to Forbidden City, it’s absolutely lovely. And cooler, too, obviously.
I had a very funny experience when I went to teh Wall, which I presume you’ll go to next. I was with one Chinese guy, who was the translator for the Ford guy I was working with but who had never seen the Wall so my colleague let him stay behind and go with me. We went to the big touristy site on the wall, and walked out as far as the fully reconstructed wall went. Way out there, we ran into a Japanese couple. They asked me, in English, to take their picture and seemed to get uncomfortable when the guy I was with took it. That was when China and Japan were in a raw spat over imperial myth textbooks in China, so I think the Japanese couple were geuinely uncomfortable asking any Chinese people to take their picture (or maybe they spoke English, but no Chinese, and somehow figured all the Chinese folks there didn’t speak Chinese.
On the way back, the wall was swarming with people–the guy I was with had to push our way through at points (remember, this from a former rugby player). But then we went up the other side. It was totally empty, and almost everyone on that side was a foreigner. I asked the guy I was with why the Chinese folks don’t split up, on both sides. He said he thought Chinese people were just drawn to the crowds.
This House bill from May is also interesting IRT the Pelosi comment about pulling the congressional approval for war with Iran portion of the compromise bill after AIPAC contacted her…
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/6/20/2556/57619
Guess we should pay attention and support Jim Webb’s Senate Bill for legislative approval for military action.
Yeah Mad Dog, the “soft spoken” hero of the Shane piece (who handled all the interrogations with out speaking the language or having any al-Qaeda background) went to work for the guys who came up with live burial as an “interrogation technique.”
When Shane mentioned KSM’s children, he never referred to the US role in disappearing them or their continued disappearance or their use as an ancillary “crushing a child’s testicles to question his father” interrogation tool.
Amd they say there are direct approvals for everything done at every stage. So that should be an interesting paper trail. Especially for the approvals given to put a “young detainee” in stress positions and freeze him to death, as detailed by Priest.
On the McNulty spec, that’s part of why I would like to also, on Plame, have someone nail down whether or not he recalled the Margolis delegation when he came on and whether or not he ever revised or modified the delegation to Fitzgerald. Just to clear the decks. I know it would have been hard to find the time, what with strategerizing to obstruct cases against Republicans and to encourage the filing of criminal actions against Dems just to create headlines prior to elections, but he might have had a few spare moments.
I just finished reading the report. Most of the way through, I was simply aghast at Ledeen above all (as I have been before), but then I got to the minority report, which is fascinating and often entertaining too. The amendments especially get more and more petulant as they go on. I don’t know the actors as you do, EW, but I’m looking forward to reading you on the amendments.
EW, What can you tell us about the Wilson CIA letter that Steve King held forth? On its face, it damages Wilson’s credibility. Can you point me to something that explains it in proper context?
IIRC, King was talking about the CIA trip report. That’s not a document Joe wrote himself, it’s a document a reports officer wrote based on his conversation with Joe. When Joe came back, his message was, “there’s nothing there, it would be impossible for Niger to sell its uranium secretly and they wouldnt do it anyway bc they’re dependent on the US, but in the interests of full disclosure, know taht Iraq was trying to get somethign which may have been uranium, but Niger didn’t give it.”
The report said, “Joe said no, but the Iraqis tried to get uranium.”
In fact, what went on was that the Iraqis were trying to establish commercial relations OF ANY KIND as a way to break through sanctions–it’s a tactic that Qadaffi had used successfully. And the person looking for that relationship was Baghdad Bob–not a big secret nuke officer.
But the most interesting thing about it is that people within the Administration–including Libby–confused Wilson’s account of this 1999 Iraqi attempt with a different one, thereby thinking Joe was involved in something. Thing is, they were stupid enough to miss that the Iraqi-Nigerien meeting took place in Algeris, not in Niger. It couldn’t be the same meeting.
Thanks. Seems none of our Democratic Congressmen knew the context or authorship of that letter – could not refute it – so it stood as a stain on Wilson – and a plus mark for Bushco.
I read Wilson’s book a while ago, but I do not remember reading about that letter and it’s gross misrepresentation of his oral trip report. That must be the one piece of evidence that wingnuts have to call Wilson a liar.
Too bad our congressman are so unaware. Need lots of new ones who will do their jobs.
Juan Cole, Aug. 1, 2004
Juan Cole, Aug. 1, 2004
Here’s an old CQ article worth a gander from about 2 months ago…
http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmsp…..0002711892
found it here:
http://digg.com/politics/Israe…..icials_Say
The comments at Digg are interesting…I have not validated any of the information in the comments.
JEEBUS. Mukasey has dual citizenship?? How’d we never talk about this during hearings in advance of his approval by Senate?
And the rest of those folks on the list, dual citizenship too?
Is there some way to vet this??
That’s why I said I had no validation on any information in the comments at that link.
Would like to vet that information…seems worth exploring…
If it’s so, wow, what a cell…
After all, there can be crazy stuff out there on the net…
I think that list was compiled by applying the context of the “Law of Return” and the laws in the US on Dual Citizenship.
Here is info on the Law of Return:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_Return
Here on US dual citizenship. It does mention that one can gain a security clearance while holding dual citizenship.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_citizenship
As for vetting…who can? Someone could easily keep their alliance to a specific country secret while infiltrating and/or controlling the other as an apparent “loyal” citizen.
The second link you placed at 86 leads to an article that includes a description about the way that spying often occurs when companies are set up as US/foreign ‘international’ concerns. This prompted the recollection of David Safavian former head of GSA under Bu$hCheney, who is Iranian American, former biz partner of Grover Norquist, and longtime pal of Abramoff.
Norquist and Safavian set up ‘Janus Strategies’ (chuckle, chuckle, what a name…) to do ’strategy’. Among their clients is someone accused of using a company/non-profit as a terrorist front.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Safavian
No documented links between Safavian and Ghorbanifar, but both are of Iranian descent, FWIW. Makes one wonder just who Safavian was really working for…?
MarkH @118: amazing stuff, isn’t it?
EW, I don’t fathom how you track down these details. Assembled, they’re incredible. It’s just hard to believe.
The DC aka Bushie lackie Circuit gave crybaby Safavian a break on appeal.
I blew through the Safavian opinion too fast to say this with a any particular degree of confidence; but, although not overly compelling, I can see the CCA holding that Safavian should have been allowed to call an expert. The modern standards for expert opinion admissibility is fairly thin, much more so than most would expect. That said, I am still not a fan of experts opining on what the law is, and unless Safavian’s proffered expert had substantial experience in the Federal government determining this exact point, which I don’t recall (possible I missed such an indication, but I don’t think so) then I don’t think he was competent to testify. Other than that part of the opinion, it sure looked to me as if the appellate judges were impermissibly going behind the jury’s verdict on factual findings. Overall a pretty questionable decision, but maybe just slightly better that you indicate. Not much better though.
I sure agree with you wholeheartedly on the expert opining on issues of law issue, and I’ve been out of pocket all day and didn’t get to even skim that opinion.
I noticed that Move On is appropriately trying to hold Obama’s feet to the fire as to a fillibuster in the Senate, just as Loo Hoo made the point last week.
There are so few people in the House who are not afraid of AIPAC that you could not get 128 who are anti-AIPAC in any real way. You might check if the 128 supported aid to the PA in the pre-Hamas days.
The issue is not whether or not a Congress Critter is pro or anti-AIPAC. It’s whether or not he or she stands up for the vital interests of the USA regardless of where AIPAC stands.
Comparing $$ donations from AIPAC to their campaigns and tracking the legislation they have backed. (Comparing to those who voted the other way as well.)
Only a fifth of the way through the list and it is very interesting…
The Juan Cole items are actually from Aug. 29, 04 in the August ‘04 archive.
Juan Cole, Aug. 29, 2004
Washington Post, March 10, 2003
Trash Talk:
The Cardinals could sweep the Red Sox after getting humiliated by Kansas City!?
Great game afer Jon P blew the save…
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/…..=280622102
Hope it’s okay to add some timeline pieces from Anatomy of Deceit (inserted into Ghorbanifar timeline in italics).
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May 3, 2003: US and Iran in negotiations in Geneva
May 7, 2003: Rhode apparently stages “find” of anti-Israel materials in Iraq (and uranium document) with Ahmed Chalabi; Judy Miller reports it
Late May, 2003: Ledeen sends new letter outlining Ghorbanifar plan to Feith, including promise of finding “Iraqi weapons of mass destruction that had been moved to Iran”
May 21, 2003: US cancels Geneva meeting with Iran, accusing Iran of harboring Al Qaeda leaders
[From “Anatomy of Deceit”, p. 136] May 21, 2003 Judith Miller publishes a third MBL [mobile biological labs] article (with William Broad), asserting that the trailers are definitely MBLs. The article relies on the still-classified white paper and preempts the investigation of the Jefferson Project, an international team of weapons inspectors.
May 25, 2003: Report (quoting Rummy elsewhere) that US considering using MEK to launch attack on Iran
[From “Anatomy of Deceit”, p. 136] May 27, 2003 The Jefferson Project determines the trailers are not MBLs, and so informs CIA in an emailed executive summary.
[From “Anatomy of Deceit”, p. 136] May 28, 2003 CIA’s MBL white paper is declassified.
[From “Anatomy of Deceit”, p. 136] May 29, 2003 Bush claims Coalition forces have found WMD, based on the MBL claims.
Cheney’s office seeks info on Joe Wilson from the State Department.
June 2, 2003: Feith forwards Ledeen letter to Cambone; “let’s discuss”
—> then skip over June 2003, when Joe Wilson was writing his OpEd, and skip over July 03 when Valerie Plame was outed, to pick up the GHORBANIFAR TIMELINE in August 2003 —->
August 2003: Rhode continues to receive contacts from Ghorbanifar
August 6, 2003: Ledeen meets with several DOD intelligence figures to “discuss a source who knew where enriched uranium was buried in Iraq”; Ghorbanifar was conduit to this source
August 8, 2003: Newsday reports on Paris meeting
August 9, 2003: WaPo reports on Rome and Paris meeting
August 9, 2003: Rhode recalled from Iraq, where he had been liaising with Ahmad Chalabi
All this leaves me wondering who Judith Miller actually worked for. Yeah, she had a paycheck from the NYT but when Scooter wrote her that ‘aspens turning’ it sure had an eerie implication that Judy and Scooter were colleagues. Combining timelines is not flattering to Ms Miller’s reputation as a journalist.
Looks like the harder the CIA/intel people tried to set the record straight, the faster Feith’s DoD “cell” tried to outpace and move ahead of them. Any threat that the US would open doors to Iran were vigilantly, rapidly demolished — no WMD? Let’s plant some! No anti-Israel propaganda? Let’s plant some!
JThomason, you’ve outdone yourself this thread.
Ditto MadDogs, klynn, others…
EW, to have synthesized the documents you reference, and whittle them down to these essentials… I’m awestruck. And not for the first time.
This is a marvel.
But it’s also profoundly, sadly, appallingly damning.
These people have more blood on their hands than I can even get my head around.
FYI, I had not been able to find a copy of the DOD IG Rendon Group Report until today. A redacted version is available here.
Bum link.
Opps. Try this.
Oh, and just so everyone is working from a common point, the Rendon Group was an official member of the White House Iraq Group (WHIG) which had as its primary purpose, the selling of the Iraq War to the American public.
And further from Wiki on the Rendon Group:
From the DOD IG Report on The Rendon Group link that WO provided:
Couple points come to mind:
1. Of course the DoD IG didn’t find evidence that DoD hired The Rendon Group to propagandize the American public and sell the Iraq War! It was the fookin’ White House (WHIG) who hired them! Nitwits!
2. On the other 46 work orders that the DoD did hire The Rendon Group, of course this all complied with DoD policy. After all, it was indeed DoD policy to utilize Propagandists for Profit™ to carry their water to the MSM. Why should the use of The Rendon Group be different. Apparently, “anything goes” was policy and acceptable at Rummy’s DoD. Despite Federal laws prohibiting it.
Shorter DoD: “We’re above the law too, doncha know?”
This says 2/98 and another post referred to Reagan nixing relations with Iran in ‘87. So, just how far back did these plans go. It certainly didn’t seem to slow much with Clinton as president. Was he involved or looking the other way?
It’s getting messed up by the comment system:
http://www.dodig.osd.mil/fo/Foia/ERR/…..20Copy.pdf
Been there (messed up linky), done that too often to be embarrassed any nore.
This one works, and most excellent find!
The questions were more interesting to me than the answers:
TRG report is searchable, SCSI phase2b report continues to have skew that baffles Adobe software, appreciated ocr assistant in the other IG report recently. For readers who might still like to read how Padilla was rendered from SDNY to SC brig, I happened upon Mukasey’s 90pp 2002 opinion and order; I found it interesting to review after a few specifics and later events in that case have entered the public realm; Luttig’s irrascible opinion denying subsequent transfer from SC to FL appeared ~3 years later. Slightly onTopic, it is interesting Cacheris intends to remain ‘Not a PottedPlant’. Timeline, I would look at dates for BrewsterJ’s scaledown in Turkey, as well as adding as perhaps relevant the negotiations with Turkey re the initial concept of land route to Bagdhad traversing that territory. Also some of the dates of ElBaradei’s unit might misce into the same timeline, early 2003.
If you all need a place to trash talk, vent or randomly muse, I have put up a new thread for that. It is a total fluff piece though, so don’t stop the real work here. Carry on.
Mourning The Loss Of A Giant Recently Passed – Sunset Musings II
Lukery quoting Woodward, Oct. 3, 2006
The cable to Kay had been preceded by a phone call from Libby specifying WMD coordinates in Lebanon. No action was taken as the result of either of these contacts because apparently Kay did not consider them credible. These two contacts of Kay originating with Cheney happen in the first week of October 2003. The last weekend of September 2003 is when Libby and Cheney were in Jackson Hole arranging for McClellan to exonerate Libby. Seems like they had some other items on the Jackson Hole agenda. Still, by the first week in October the aspens around Jackson Hole would be turning. EW, who of course developed the Cheney/Libby JH meeting time line from McClellan’s book notes this in the same period above: “Early October 2003: Possible Rhode meeting with Ghorbanifar in Rome.” Cheney is getting desperate here. Investigations are beginning to break on both the Franklin/Rhode front (CIFA) and the Plame leak front (Fitzgerald). But the CIFA investigation is quickly stopped by Haynes and Cambone (October 21, 2003).
Heh. I remember some interview with David Kay (may have been Congressional testimony, but i think it was an interview he did after releasing his final report) where he was literally almost incredulous about how the henchmen from Cheney’s VP shop would call at all times of the day or night with coordinates all over the entire country of Iraq to run check for WMD’s at the drop of a hat. Kay made it out to be almost comically pathetic. Some of the coordinates they sent turned out to even be in different countries and the Cheney shop didn’t even realize or check them before trying to scramble Kay’s team. Unbelievable.
More from the DoD IG Report on The Rendon Group:
Couple more points come to mind:
1. Live interviews? Then someone might ask us a question that would get us, the DoD, in trouble. Recorded interviews, conducted by the DoD, would allow us, the DoD, to stay on message. No sense having a Free Press when you can buy one.
2. The DoD IG never did answer the original question of “Why has The Rendon Group, a public relations firm, been hired by the DoD in every US military intervention since the Panama invasion in 1989?”
Answering the question truthfully would have meant saying that the DoD wanted professional help to propagandize the American public about our warfare, and that spending the American public’s money is what we, the DoD, are all about.
You don’t really think they were doing propaganda for 3 bills, do you?
TRG wasn’t alone in this war, either; I am still scratching my head over Lincoln Asset Mgmt Group. Has covert ops written all over it.
And John Rendon comes across as a snake, insincere; he’s too ready with solutions when his business is far too shady, making for some deep cognitive dissonance.
Amazingly, in the DoD IG Report on The Rendon Group, there seems not a paragraph that goes by where the weasels don’t squirm right out of their grasp:
Shorter DoD IG: “We wanted to ensure a good white-wash of TRG in this report, so we closed our eyes to all the criminal stuff that we couldn’t spin as legal.”
Amazing stuff you got there wheel!
And I see from the time line that the FBI was already investigating Franklin and SSCI was in play as well in the Summer of 2003.
More on the Rendon Group and INC:
What an odd quote from a barely accessible document.
And Francis Brookes turns up again here.
The entire document is here.
OT but we’re a day later and I noticed that several of the largest newspapers in the country gave the FISA disaster one single paragraph saying it passed and Bush was in favor of it.
From Glenn: Time Magazine uncritically prints Nancy Pelosi’s “justifications” for the FISA “compromise”
Article Glenn Praises: Behind the Compromise on Spying
Great piece Ew incredible timeline.
Ledeen “I learned about it in the papers”
Hold them ACCOUNTABLE
“Faster Please”
Still nothing in the MSM about the U.S. vs Rosen case. Just the way the I-lobby like it.
Invasion of Iraq, outing of Plame, U.S. vs. Rosen…”connected at the roots”
Who forged the Niger Documents?
http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/21704/
Where is Micheal Rubin?
The charade that Rice was one of the first to try and negotiate with Iran is a real charade.
http://article.nationalreview……BmZmFiYWY=
Larger copy of Larry Franklin indictment.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/…..ug2005.htm
News release from the U.S. Dept of Justice on the Rosen/Weissman
http://72.14.205.104/search?q=…..#038;gl=us