Phil Carter Resigns

The announcement in the WaPo that Phil Carter had resigned his post as Deputy Assistant Secretary for Detainee Affairs was bleak enough. That article attributes Carter’s departure to “family reasons.”

Phillip Carter, who was appointed deputy assistant secretary of defense for detainee policy in April, said in a brief telephone interview that he was leaving for “personal and family reasons” and not because of any policy differences with the administration.

But Carol Rosenberg–whose coverage of Gitmo is far and away the best–seems to suggest there’s more going on.

He quit without explanation just days after Obama confirmed in an interview with Fox News in Beijing that his administration would miss its Jan. 22 Guantánamo closure deadline.

The development apparently took the Department of Defense by surprise.

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A Defense Department source said Carter, an attorney with a 2004 law degree from UCLA, had already stopped reporting to work by the time the Pentagon confirmed his resignation — and that his last field trip was not abroad but to Thomson, Ill.

She goes onto suggest that Carter may not have gotten along with the Cheney dead-enders in the Pentagon.

So Carter heads off to Thomson, IL at just about precisely the time Obama was announcing that Gitmo would not be closed any time soon (and, it should be said, in the wake of Greg Craig’s resignation, apparently for Gitmo-related reasons). And then he quits suddenly, apparently without notice.

That may well be the “family reasons” the WaPo suggests. But it appears that the folks closest to Gitmo suspect something else is going on.

Update: Glenn Greenwald catalogs the views Carter has espoused that have been rejected by the Obama Administration.

Why Do Comey and Goldsmith Hate America Military Commissions?

I realize that Eric Holder couldn’t really have told the squawking Republicans that military commissions are much riskier a place to charge alleged terrorists than civilian courts. Which is why I’m grateful that Jim Comey and Jack Goldsmith did.

In deciding to use federal court, the attorney general probably considered the record of the military commission system that was established in November 2001. This system secured three convictions in eight years. The only person who had a full commission trial, Osama bin Laden’s driver, received five additional months in prison, resulting in a sentence that was shorter than he probably would have received from a federal judge.

One reason commissions have not worked well is that changes in constitutional, international and military laws since they were last used, during World War II, have produced great uncertainty about the commissions’ validity. This uncertainty has led to many legal challenges that will continue indefinitely — hardly an ideal situation for the trial of the century.

By contrast, there is no question about the legitimacy of U.S. federal courts to incapacitate terrorists. Many of Holder’s critics appear to have forgotten that the Bush administration used civilian courts to put away dozens of terrorists, including “shoe bomber” Richard Reid; al-Qaeda agent Jose Padilla; “American Taliban” John Walker Lindh; the Lackawanna Six; and Zacarias Moussaoui, who was prosecuted for the same conspiracy for which Mohammed is likely to be charged. Many of these terrorists are locked in a supermax prison in Colorado, never to be seen again. [my emphasis]

It won’t do any good, though. Republicans want to try KSM in one of their fancy new military commissions even if it means they won’t get to kill him in the end.

Republicans Refuse to Hear Holder’s Claims about Civilian Trials

If you suspended disbelief in yesterday’s DOJ oversight hearing and pretend this wasn’t about demagoguing and protecting torturers, the Republican attacks on Eric Holder’s decision to try five of the 9/11 detainees raise good points. They argue:

  • The 9/11 conspirators are actually more appropriate defendants for a military commission than some others who will be charged in military commissions
  • The standards for who gets tried in a civilian court and who gets tried in a military commission are inconsistent
  • Trying al Qaeda detainees in civilian courts may present Miranda challenges to soldiers in Afghanistan
  • A civilian trial will take a long time (3 years, according to Mary Jo White) and cost a lot of money ($50 million, according to Chuck Schumer)
  • Defendants might get off on legal technicalities
  • There were problems alleged to have arisen out of the earlier NYC terrorist trials
  • KSM might be able to demand asylum under the Convention Against Torture once in the US

Some of those are, frankly, legitimate concerns. But I said, “pretend this wasn’t about demagoguing,” because even when Holder addressed each of these concerns (though he did admit he’s not an immigration expert), the Republicans continued to attack him on the same grounds. They simply ignored his serious responses to their questions.

But what I found most interesting about the way Republicans not listening to Holder’s answers came in response to Holder’s assertion that the government is more likely to succeed in getting a conviction in Article III Court. The exchange, above, with Kyl, is one of the most heated examples.

Kyl: Surely you’re not arguing that it’s easier to get evidence into an Article III than a military commission. I mean, you made the point that you’re aware of a lot of evidence in this case that others aren’t, of course, but the rules for admitting evidence are more lenient before a military commission than an Article III Court, so that can’t be the basis for your decision, is it?

Holder: That is not necessarily the case. With regard to the evidence that would be elicited in a military commission, evidence elicited from the detainees, from the terrorists as a result of these enhanced interrogation techniques, it is not clear to me, at all, that that information would necessarily be admitted into a military commission, even with the use of a clean team, or that it would withstand appellate scrutiny. And on the basis of that concern and other things, my desire to go to an Article III Court and to minimize the use of that kind of information, that kind of evidence, I thought was paramount.

Yet Kyl all but dismissed this assertion, continuing on to demagogue some more (in this case, by raising one of Andrew McCarthy’s attacks on Holder).

The Attorney General of the United States repeatedly told Congress that the government stands a better chance of getting a conviction in a civilian court, yet Republicans don’t care–they still want their military commissions.

Now, the Republican refusal to consider Holder’s assertion is one thing. But it does raise the question of what Holder meant.

We discussed some of these issues in the David Frakt thread. Significantly, Frakt noted that the judge in the Jawad case ruled that he had the basis to dismiss all charges on the basis of pretrial abuse.

The Judge in the case, Colonel Stephen Henley, had made a couple of rulings in the Jawad case (my case) which made the government very nervous. First, he ruled in response to a motion to dismiss that I filed on the basis of torture that he “beyond peradventure” had the power to dismiss all charges on the basis of pretrial abuse of the detainee. [my emphasis]

And that–Frakt suggests later in that comment–might lead a military judge to deny the death penalty to make up for the fact that KSM had been waterboarded 183 times. In addition, both Mustafa al-Hawsawi and Ramzi bin al-Shibh have active challenges to the constitutionality of the military commissions, which, at the very least would hold up the military commissions themselves (even assuming that they were found to be constitutional).

Holder seems to be accounting for some of these factors–as well as noting that a death penalty case should be heard in the place where the crime occurred. But he also seems to be suggesting that it will be easier to present the evidence he feels the government should use to try its case against KSM and the others. (I sort of suspect he thinks it might be easier to bracket off any consideration of KSM’s torture in a civilian trial–though I’m curious what the lawyers think about this.)

I’m going to look more closely at what Holder might be thinking.

But the bottom line is this: the country’s top law enforcement officer says we are most likely to win a conviction of KSM in a civilian trial. But Republicans want their military commission anyway.

Whitehouse: Talk Shows Shouldn’t Make Prosecutorial Decisions

Not like it’ll matter to Republicans who are attacking Eric Holder’s decision. But Sheldon Whitehouse slammed Republicans for beating up on federal prosecutors.

And then he got really steamed, accusing the Republicans of politicizing prosecutorial opinions.

From my perspective, popular opinion is a very dangerous bellwether to hold prosecutors to. … I think it gets worse when you move from popular opinion to legislative opinion. … And if there’s any way to make, it worse it’d be to allow it to be influenced by talk show opinion.

David Frakt on Material Support Charges and Military Commissions

In both my post wondering whether a trial in NYC makes a material support for terrorism charge more viable for the alleged 9/11 financiers, and in my post linking to Jonathan Hafetz’ post criticizing the “lawless” system of justice imposed for Gitmo detainees, pow wow has linked to Lt. Col. and Associate Professor David Frakt’s testimony to the House earlier this year, arguing that almost none of the charges filed under military commissions are actually war crimes.

You’ll recall that Frakt represented Mohammed Jawad; in the course of representing Jawad through his release, he made some of the most powerful statements that have been made against the military commissions system. Given the fascinating discussion in these threads, I decided to email Frakt and put some of these questions to him directly.

I asked Frakt his general thoughts about Friday’s announcements.

I reject the government’s claim that the nature of the crime determines the forum (federal court or military commission). I believe it is largely political considerations that are the basis for these determinations. Basically, if there is a U.S. Attorney who wants to try the case and they think they can prove it, they get priority and it goes to federal court. Clearly, there weren’t any federal prosecutors who wanted to touch the Khadr case with a ten-foot pole. Who wants to be the first person to try a 15 year old child soldier as a war criminal in history? (Answer – the prosecutors at OMC) It is absolutely appalling that AG Holder has approved this case to continue in the military commissions. This is truly one of the great disappointments of the Obama Administration to date. The claim that the nature of the crime determines the forum is similarly false. The Administration claims that “law of war offenses” will be tried in commissions, but there are precious few, if any, legitimate law of war violations to try. The attack on the U.S.S. Cole looks like a war crime (because it was perpetrated by suicide bombers pretending to be harmless civilian fishermen) but the law of war only applies during an armed conflict. The military commission prosecutors are relying on an incredibly dubious claim that the U.S. was engaged in an armed conflict with al Qaeda since 1996 based on declarations of jihad by Osama bin Laden, even though everyone knows that the armed conflict really didn’t start until 9/11. I was on active duty with the Air Force from 1995 to 2005. There was absolutely no armed conflict taking place between the U.S. and al Qaeda prior to 9/11.

I asked Frakt specifically about Noor Uthman Mohammed–who was captured with Abu Zubaydah–because I think it presents interesting questions about the way the government is tying people to Al Qaeda.

The Noor Uthman Mohammed charges illustrate the wholesale deficiency of most of the military commission charges. Read more

A Trial Showing Torture Was Unnecessary

I’m not amused that the Wall Street Journal solicited an op-ed attacking the decision to try KSM in civilian court from one of the people–John Yoo–with the biggest conflict on such a decision. It’s yet more proof that Rupert Murdoch is engaged in a partisan pursuit, even with the WSJ.

But I am amused at the way John Yoo dismantles his own argument. Take these two claims, for example:

Prosecutors will be forced to reveal U.S. intelligence on KSM, the methods and sources for acquiring its information, and his relationships to fellow al Qaeda operatives. The information will enable al Qaeda to drop plans and personnel whose cover is blown. It will enable it to detect our means of intelligence-gathering, and to push forward into areas we know nothing about.

[snip]

For a preview of the KSM trial, look at what happened in the case of Zacarias Moussaoui, the so-called 20th hijacker who was arrested in the U.S. just before 9/11. His trial never made it to a jury. Moussaoui’s lawyers tied the court up in knots.

All they had to do was demand that the government hand over all its intelligence on him. The case became a four-year circus, giving Moussaoui a platform to air his anti-American tirades. The only reason the trial ended was because, at the last minute, Moussaoui decided to plead guilty. That plea relieved the government of the choice between allowing a fishing expedition into its intelligence files or dismissing the charges.

The first claim suggests the prosecutors will have to reveal all the information they’ve got against KSM. That’s a lie, one that presumably Professor Yoo knows is a lie. Eric Holder has made it quite clear that there is some set of evidence–much of it not public yet–that should be enough to prove KSM’s guilt, independent of all the information they collected pursuant to Yoo’s opinions authorizing torturing KSM.

And I highly doubt that Yoo’s really worried about revealing the details of other al Qaeda figures. We’ve already worked our way through about seven new generations of “al Qaeda Number Threes” since we captured KSM, so I doubt the network looks anything like it did when KSM had first-hand knowledge of it. Besides, if after eight years of waging full-scale war against al Qaeda we haven’t captured these people, then chances are we either won’t or can’t.

You know–can’t. Like Osama bin Laden.

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Eric Holder on Greg Craig’s Departure

I’ve long been tracking the suggestion that Greg Craig was being ousted because he–like Eric Holder–supported some accountability on torture (see here, here, here, and here). That’s why I find this exchange so interesting:

Q: [inaudible] Greg Craig’s departure and whether that was a surprise to you?

Holder: Yeah, it was a surprise. Um, Greg Craig is a great lawyer, he has been a great friend to the Justice Department. We’ve had a good relationship with him. He has, I think, contributed in a significant way to the success of this Administration and, I think, to the success of the effort to close Guantanamo. Um, Greg is a friend of mine. And those who have tried to place on him, um, I think an unfair proportion of the blame as to why things have not proceeded perhaps as we had wanted with regard to Guantanamo, that’s simply unfair. He is a great lawyer, he has been a great White House Counsel, he was an early supporter of this President, and I know he leaves with the thanks of the President, and certainly with my gratitude.

The entire transcript, including Q&A, is below the fold.


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Mayor Mike: NYPD Can Handle the 9/11 Trial

Mike Bloomberg’s as confident as Jerry Nadler that NY can manage a trial of the alleged 9/11 plotters:

I support the Obama Administration’s decision to prosecute 9/11 terrorists here in New York. It is fitting that 9/11 suspects face justice near the World Trade Center site where so many New Yorkers were murdered. We have hosted terrorism trials before, including the trial of Omar Abdel-Rahman, the mastermind of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing. When I spoke to Attorney General Holder earlier today, I told him New York City stands ready to assist the federal court in the administration of justice in any way necessary. I have great confidence that the NYPD, with federal authorities, will handle security expertly. The NYPD is the best police department in the world and it has experience dealing with high-profile terrorism suspects and any logistical issues that may come up during the trials.

Why does Joe Lieberman doubt the ability of the NYPD?

The Bazaar for Deals at Gitmo

Dafna Linzer has a very timely story describing how prosecutors at Gitmo are scrambling to make deals with detainees at Gitmo, in some cases to resolve their fate, but in others to prepare them to testify against more significant detainees.

As the United States moves to prosecute Khalid Shaikh Mohammed and four others [1] accused of being conspirators behind the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, federal and military prosecutors are racing each other to strike plea deals with at least a dozen additional Guantanamo detainees whose testimony could be used against some of the most notorious prisoners.

The plea bargaining exposes the difficulty the government faces in bringing prosecutable cases against these defendants and others still in Guantanamo. Most of the remaining detainees are considered too difficult to prosecute, mostly because the evidence against them is thin or based on statements obtained through coercion.

One defense attorney said federal prosecutors had so little on his client that they asked the detainee to suggest a charge he would be willing to plead guilty to.

I sort of wonder whether that’s one thing that’s going on with Omar Khadr. When asked at a DOD/DOJ press conference today whether Khadr’s trial might be transferred to Canada, the senior DOD official giving the briefing dodged by saying his case is still early in the process.

Toronto Star: Walk me through thinking about Omar Khadr, whether his age was a consideration, and whether there was communication with Canadian govt. Still possibility that Khadr could be repatriated to Canada.

DOD: Don’t want to speculate about outcome of pending prosecutions in commissions. We have this as a pending case. Status of it, it’s a ways off. There’s a way to go in the case. I’m sure the prosecutors will consider all their options wrt how they handle the case.

That seems remarkable for a case that has, supposedly, already been green-lighted for a military commission. So I wonder if they’re trying to get him to approve of a deal?

In any case, click through to read Linzer’s complete story.

Nadler Responds to the Fear-Mongerers on NYC Trials

There are a lot of Dems–particularly from NY–telling fearful Republicans that we can try the 9/11 murderers at the scene of the crime.

Among those is Jerry Nadler:

I thank the Department of Justice and Attorney General Eric Holder for their diligent efforts to bring to justice those who have committed acts of terrorism against the United States. In particular, I applaud the decision to bring those individuals responsible for the attack on the World Trade Center to New York to face trial in our federal courts. New York is not afraid of terrorists, we want to confront them, we want to bring them to justice, and we want to hold them accountable for their despicable actions.

It is fitting that they be tried in New York, where the attack took place. On that day almost 3,000 innocent men, women, and children were murdered, and New York has waited far too long for the opportunity to hold these terrorists responsible. We have handled terrorist trials before, and we welcome this opportunity to do so again. Any suggestion that our prosecutors and our law enforcement personnel are not up to the task of safely holding and successfully prosecuting terrorists on American soil is insulting and untrue. I invite any of my colleagues who say that they are afraid to bring detainees into the United States to face trial to come to New York and see how we handle them.

Trying these alleged terrorists in New York also will allow family members of 9/11 victims to see these trials and confront these defendants in open court. These families deserve that opportunity, and I thank the Department of Justice for providing it.

Finally, I am disappointed that the Attorney General has decided to pursue cases against other Guantanamo detainees in military commissions. While Congress has reformed some aspects of that system, the military commissions are no substitute for trials in our federal courts or through courts-martial. We must ensure that these commissions are not simply used as a lesser vehicle for cases in which the evidence is not sufficient. [my empahsis]

Why is it that Republicans are such scardey-cats?