Super Trash

It is kind of hard to write the last football Trash of the season. Especially now that there is no more Favre. The Saints are a nice story and all, but let’s be serious, it isn’t the National Favre League for nuthin ya know. I guess we will have to press on anyway, so off we go!

The Saints: Any discussion of the Who Dats has to start with Drew Fookin Brees. He didn’t have to go to New Orleans when he signed with them, there were other and arguably better offers, he wanted to go to New Orleans. The team and the city were hurting and needed him, and he stepped up and has given his heart and leadership to both, and that is a pretty cool thing. And Brees may not be Peyton Manning, but he isn’t far off in QB production; always puts the ball in the right place, spreads it around and reads defenses very well. Unlike the Colts, however, the Saints can run the ball too; in fact, the running game is deceptively solid with Pierre Thomas, Mike Bell and Reggie Bush. Then there is the defense, which has really benefitted from the wily tough nut veteran Darren Sharper and being coached up by Gregg Williams. They are very sound and have a knack for making key plays and forcing critical turnovers (Adrian Peterson is still looking for all the footballs they took from him). Special teams are sound, and the return game features Reggie Bush, who has rediscovered some of his scary explosiveness now that he is healthy and rested. The Big Easy is gonna be big crazy. The party is on, they are even canceling court and giving the schools a break because of the big game. You gotta love the spirit. And, hey, did you know Lombardi coaches for the Saints? I hear tell there are Lombardi fans at this blog….

The Colts: The Colts should not even be in the playoffs to start with, as they should have been banned for their shameless, unethical and craven tanking of games at the end of the regular season. Pete Rose never tanked games, and he got a lifetime ban from baseball; apparently taking a dive, skewing the playoff race and demeaning the integrity of the game is no problem for the NFL. What a joke. In fairness to Manning, you could tell he was not happy standing on the sidelines as the games were tanked and the chance at the immortality of a perfect season went up in flames. But then again, he agreed to be sidelined; you think Brett Favre would have put up with that pansy ass shit?? Nuh uh. Peyton was the MVP this year, and he earned it; the dude is really all that. He has very good receivers and he spreads the ball around, always finding Dallas Clark when he really needs it. You can hurry him, but Manning simply does not get hit much, and he is protected a heck of a lot more than Favre was in the NFC Championship Game. The Colts defense has already been without Bob Sanders for a while, and now Dwight Freeney is severely hobbled, if he plays at all. Freeney was going to try to practice Friday and Saturday, but was unable to go either day. If he plays, he sure is not going to be the disruptive force he normally is. This is a problem for the Colts defense; it skews a lot of what they do up front, and you can put another player there, but it will not be Dwight Freeney. No Adam Vinatieri either; Matt Stover is a well seasoned pro, but he is not Adam Vinitieri when it comes to championship kicks.

Prediction: Laissez les Bon Temps Roulez! Geaux Saints!!

Odds and Ends: Here is an all time Super Bowl team, position by position. I thought it was pretty decent, what do you think? Turns out the Republicans think lunkheads with brain injuries are just their kind of candidates. Brilliant, cause you know, JC Watts and Steve Largent were such stellar successes in the history of Congress.

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  1. PJEvans says:

    I thought it was pretty decent, what do you think?

    They’re short the kickers.
    George Blanda for the AFC.

    And, by all means, Geaux!

    • bmaz says:

      But this is only based on Super Bowl performance; Blanda was only in one and was not decisive. Adam Vinitieri kicked winning field goals in three Super Bowl victories, no one else is even close to that; hard not to put him at the top.

      • PJEvans says:

        Oh, I’ll allow Vinatieri. But I think Blanda ought to be in there for his sheer longevity. (Also he was a good kicker. Not his fault it was when his team was crap.)

  2. CTMET says:

    I’m with the saints because I like the name Drew Fookin Brees. Of course if they Colts for some reason put Drew Willy in instead of that Manning guy, I’m all for the guys in blue.

  3. Petrocelli says:

    Adrian Peterson is still looking for all the footballs they took from him – bmaz

    This is prolly your best one-liner yet !

    Drew Fookin’ Brees ! … Saints by 10

  4. phred says:

    I picked the Saints in my football pool, ergo, the Colts will win. Sorry New Orleans fans, really I am.

    • Petrocelli says:

      Well, as I recall, you have been rootin’ for the Packers since Favray was born the beginning of time ! *g*

      *waves to phred* … have you seen that purty li’l green gal’s DVD as yet ?

      • phred says:

        Hiya Petro! Yep : ) That particular DVD has not strayed far from the player, but I have made a nice spot for it on the shelf next to the rest of the collection, when the time comes ; )

        And yes, I have been rooting for the Packers since the beginning of time (which for me was pretty much the Lombardi era). I hope you appreciated my restraint in not specifically pointing out the presence of Forrest Gregg and Max McGee on the all-time Super Bowl team ; )

        Nonetheless, I am rooting for the Saints in a big way, it’s just I have been feeling a bit cursed with my football picks lately ; )

        • Mauimom says:

          To be fair, McGhee did not have a lot of competition for the position of “seriously hungover receiver”.

          Oh, they were searching for hung over.

          Never mind.

        • bobschacht says:

          I hope you appreciated my restraint in not specifically pointing out the presence of Forrest Gregg and Max McGee on the all-time Super Bowl team ; )

          Much as I was a Packer fan back in the Forrest Gregg/Max McGee era, I think its a joke to put McGee in the all-time tight ends category. Fer pete’s sake, his playing weight was 210 pounds. His Wikipedia entry calls him a wide receiver. He’s much too small for a tight end these days.

          The game has changed a lot. Back in the 1950s, Big Daddy Lipscomb, at 6’6″ and 300 pounds, was considered a monster defensive lineman. Back in the day, he supposedly claimed, “I just gather up all them guys in my arms and pick ’em off one by one until I find out which one has the ball.” Nowadays, it is practically a requirement for any lineman to weigh at least 300 pounds. It is the norm, rather than the exception.

          Forrest Gregg’s playing weight was only 249 pounds— even in his day he was considered small for his job. In his day, he was great! Nowadays, he wouldn’t even make any team in the NFL.

          If you actually wanted to field a Superbowl team of Super all-stars today, it would look very different.

          Bob in AZ

        • phred says:

          That’s the problem with all-time teams in any sport. It isn’t really fair to compare an 1890s slugger to Mark McGwire, but that isn’t to say that the guy in the 1890s wasn’t the best of his era. So how do you select an all-time team that treats the old timers as equals to the new guys with all their fancy equipment and training and “supplements”?

          I like the team as it stands, but obviously, ymmv.

        • scribe says:

          I think the criteria the people compiling this team used were the extent to which the players dominated (or put on their career-best) performances in one or more Super Bowls. No one could seriously argue that whatshisname who was the Broncos RB (Terrell Davis) was the best to play that position. But, he did the best job of it in a Super Bowl, to those editors’ eyes.

          Likewise, you could get a real fight going over QBs, in which Joe Cool might wind up not breaking the top 5 all time. But his Super Bowls were things of beauty.

          But my Stillers. Half the Steel Curtain and Smilin’ Jack. Yup. They were that dominant even though Jack would be, at best, a small safety in today’s game.

          Oh, yeah. Swann – no one could ever wear hair like that and be a Republican. OK? WE all knew you were taking one, but I wonder whether you knew it. If you didn’t … this is the memo.

        • freepatriot says:

          It isn’t really fair to compare an 1890s slugger to Mark McGwire …

          first you’d have to find an 1890s slugger

          until babe ruth hit all those “beer aided” home rums back in the 20ies, sluggers were guys who hit doubles

          and for JohnLopresti at 44

          about “wendell, Oooopps I dropped the ball tyler …

          how is it possible that his fumbles are not recorded on that page ???

          when a premiere back changes teams late in his career, there is usually a reason

          I hid a clue in my comment, guess why wendell became a 49er

          we’re gittin close to game time here at casa de patriot, time to mop the floor an throw out the rotten veggies, we’re goin all out

          (wink)

        • dakine01 says:

          Bob, you are correct in that players today are pretty much superior to those of the earlier eras.

          But McGee and Gregg are on this list for the games they had in their era.

          It’s not an All Time All Star team, it’s an All Time “These guys played great in a Super Bowl” team.

          When another tight end has a day like McGee had (or better) then McGee will probably be dropped off the team and replaced by whomever.

        • bobschacht says:

          It’s not an All Time All Star team, it’s an All Time “These guys played great in a Super Bowl” team.

          You’re right. When you do what McGee did in a superbowl game, that’s instant fame. But take the guy who just might be the best tight end of all time:

          1. Tony Gonzalez (Atlanta Falcons)

          174 games started, 916 receptions, 10,940 yards, 11.9 YPR, 76 TDs, 10-time Pro Bowler and 5-time All-Pro

          This is a fairly obvious pick, but the right one.

          Gonzalez is the best tight end to ever play the game, and is still the best doing it. Nearly 100 receptions, over 1,000 yards, and 10 touchdowns certainly warrant a first place spot on this list.

          He already holds the record for receptions, yards, and touchdowns by a tight end. Each year that he plays is only adding on to records that will never be broken.

          He will most likely go over 1,000 receptions for his career, which is an incredible feat even for a wide receiver, much less a tight end.

          He’s already reached double-digit Pro Bowls, but that was all in the AFC. I’m sure he’d love to wear a blue jersey for the NFC this year, and most likely will do just that.

          He wants to win a Super Bowl before his career is over, and him being on the field gives the Falcons a much better chance to win their first, and his first.

          Tony who? His problem is that he’s never been in a superbowl, let alone win one. So he languishes, and Max McGee gets the cred. I loved Max’s 15 minutes of fame, especially coming with a hangover. But Tony deserves some time in the sun, too.

          Bob in AZ

        • dakine01 says:

          And Tony Gonzalez and other tight ends are on the path to probable HoF down the road.

          But the team bmaz linked to is strictly for the Super Bowl. Just as an all time World Series team would likely look different than and All Time MLB team. Or an All Time NBA finals team versus an All Time NBA Team.

        • scribe says:

          Nawwww. They’ll never drop McGee off the team, because he’s the “Best Super Bowl Played With a Raging Hangover” guy on the team.

          Every team has one. Every team needs one.

  5. TarheelDem says:

    Any team that pulls up moving vans in the middle of the night to abandon its signature city is a quitter. I’m for the Saints marchin’ in on this one.

    It’s a Baltimore thing.

  6. phred says:

    BTW, that’s an outstanding line-up for the all-time Super Bowl team. All the picks were good, but I was really impressed to see Montana at the helm. Yep. Best QB when the game is on the line in the history of the game. Well, at least the history I can remember ; )

  7. scribe says:

    Smilin’ Jack

    L.C.

    Mean Joe

    Iron Mike

    Swann

    Half the Steel Curtain.

    5/22 ain’t bad, especially when you consider that over 44 years and 88 different teams, those 5 were on the same teams in the same games and their dominance has endured over more than 30 years since.

    OK, I’ll come out of my Good Guys Wear Black reverie and take my eyes away from the TV, where the Terrible Towel (TM) is draped across the front of the TV table like the altar cloth it is, and bring my attention back to the game tomorrow like I should.

    I want the Saints to win both for the sake of Nawlins and to allow the Football Gods to restore balance to Football after the Colts took the still-unrectified, unexpiated step of laying down so they wouldn’t get hurt. If ever there was a city deserving of winning a Super Bowl, it’s Nawlins. After Pitsburgh, of course, but that’s another story for another year.

    That said, the two keys I see in this game are first, whether the officials allow the Saints D to play or impose a pussy rule on them. The Saints D has gone through opposing offenses in a in a very direct, painful and True Football manner: going after the opposing QB and making sure he knows he Will Get Hit. If the zebras let the Saints D play, then the Saints will have a good chance of shutting down the Colts O. For all Peyton’s skill, and he has it in abundance, they don’t really have a running game to complement his passing-game skills. If, OTOH, the zebras give Peyton a bubble of protection and enforce it with lots of flags, it will be a long night for the Saints and Peyton, having had two weeks to prepare, will pick them apart.

    Dwight Freeney playing would be, IMHO, the biggest gift the Colts could give the Saints. He’s hobbled, and he relies on speed. He plays, the Saints’ O makes him wish he hadn’t. The Saints’ O is a lot more balanced, particularly with three good RBs, and they will move the ball.

    Prediction: good guys wear black. Saints. Probably.

  8. sluggahjells says:

    Will comeback tomorrow with a full preview over at TWD, but a few things to note:

    -The Colts can run the football when they need to. Joseph Abdai is still very effective when called on, as he showed in the AFC Title game. And rookie Donald Brown, after disappearing for a while, has come along and is capable of making big plays down the field. Not only that, but the Saints defense has been very susceptible to the run this year.

    -The Saints have been played at the same level outside of the Superdome on the road as the Colts have, especially as the season reached it’s later stages. That is a factor that some in Miami have pointed out, and I think that is important to note here.

    – To be honest, I was ready to really give the Colts a blowout win here before the severity of Freeney’s injury became apparent. With an injury like that, I expect him to suit up but realize he just would be hurting the team on the field by continuing to play instead of going to the bench.

    Will that lead to blitzes from the outside on Drew Brees, a thing Jim Caldwell doesn’t like doing, from Clint Sessions or Philip Wheeler? Or will Raheem Brock somehow do a serviceable enough job as Freeney’s most likely replacement.

    A lot of people don’t know who Brock is……well, you will have to get to know him because his presence will be big in this game against Saints left tackle Jerrod Bushrod. Bushrod would certainly rather face him than Freeney, that’s for sure.

    – At the same time though, I just don’t see how the Saints defense will even rattle Manning and this offense. The Jets and Ravens defenses are simply better than the one Manning will face on Sunday. And that means Reggie Wayne, freed from the shackles of Revis Island, will have field day most likely against Jabari Green. It will be pitch and catch all over the field just on that matchup alone. We haven’t even started on Dallas Clark and rookie duo of Garcon and Collie. Now the Saints are terrific at the “Takeaway” category, and they will need to be if they want to bring home the franchise’s first title.

    But the Colts are easily aware of that, and have taken the necessary steps to hold onto the football on this “bend by don’t break” defense.

    Will be shocked like everyone else basically if it isn’t a high scoring Super Bowl, maybe record setting possibly, at game’s end. But even with Freeney’s injury, easily a game changer that makes you believe the Saints destiny is there for them to proceed all the way, I think with #18 at the helm and that underrated linebacking core, Miami has basically become a second home for the Colts.

    And yes, I lied about a “few things to note” apparently. Might as well be the semi-preview here.

    Until tomorrow everyone….Goodnight.

      • sluggahjells says:

        They haven’t needed too though, in terms of the Colts running. When they needed to show balance with the run, they have shown that conviction. Just ask Rex Ryan and John Harabaugh that one.

        • bmaz says:

          Well, I don’t think much of their running game at all. Their running game sucks and the Colts suck; I think the pansy ass lay down artists ought to just forfeit the game and go home.

          And this is the most pathetic pre-game in the history of mankind.

        • scribe says:

          That’s why I’ve been watching everything else. One of those cake decorating shows has the guy making a Dalek cake for a Doctor Who-themed something, and it even says “ex-ter-min-attttte.”

          That, and dealng with a slavering hound who wants all my chips.

    • freepatriot says:

      The Jets and Ravens defenses are simply better than the one Manning will face on Sunday.

      jebus

      two weeks ago, when they was beating the geezers to a pulp, the Saints was the DIRTIEST team in the league

      now they ain’t as good as the Jets or the Ravens ???

      jes remember, the best Defence is a good OFFENSE

      the Saints are waaaaay better than the Jets or the Ravens

      • bmaz says:

        Well the Saints D couldn’t stop Brett Favre for shit; he ate them up. Turns out that taking the ball away at the right times cures a whole lot of mediocre defense, and the Saints have a real knack for that. Brees is also, like you say, a clock eater.

        • freepatriot says:

          Turns out that taking the ball away at the right times cures a whole lot of mediocre defense

          JUST WIN BABY

          DREW FOOKIN BREES

        • Phoenix Woman says:

          The Saints can’t count on the Colts being as sloppy as the Vikings were two weeks ago. Face it, dude — the Vikings literally gave the game away and still nearly won it. Only a bogus call for which the ref later apologized allowed the Saints to finally decide that, aw what the heck, we wanna go to the Super Bowl after all.

      • sluggahjells says:

        Freepatriot, I said the Jets and Ravens defenses are better than the Saints defense, not the whole teams.

        And that is the case.

        • bmaz says:

          Well, okay, they are running pretty effectively. The Colts still suck and should be disqualified on the spot and the game awarded to the Saints.

  9. freepatriot says:

    so, if the Saints win, I was Half Right, waay back in August

    anybody else doing that good ???

    that hubcap is almost MINE

  10. nomolos says:

    enough of this “not quite rugby and definitely not football” trash. Ireland, the defending 6 Nations champions, beat Italy yesterday at Croke Park 29-11. And in football news the Euro qualifying draw is on today.

    As for for the game where people wear lots of padding so they don’t get a booboo I would assume the saints will beat the carpetbaggers from Indianapolis.

      • nomolos says:

        It is an interesting game no doubt. It is a combination of Gaelic football and Rugby played by crazy Australians (that is redundant, no?) fascinating to watch, impossible to understand.

        • bmaz says:

          Who needs to understand it?? It is freaking hilarious to watch; and, then, there are those aforementioned referees and their wild hand gestures and uniforms that look like a cross between a bobby and a court jester. It is just too funny.

  11. emptywheel says:

    Here’s my problem.

    I was gonna make gumbo for my friend’s super bowl party tonight in honor of Nawlins.

    But then last night I went to the local store to buy okra, and there was none.

    It’s an omen, surely, but what does it mean? And do I make the effort to hunt down some okra today, in hopes it’lll help the Saints? Or do I just make pot roast?

    • scribe says:

      Just go over to the world of red beans, andouille and rice. It’s a lot simpler, the diners can vary the heat if they want, and if there are any leftovers they get better tomorrow.

      That, or if you can find some of the tiny winter shrimp from Maine, they make a nice jambalaya.

  12. emptywheel says:

    Oh, I’m going to put that shrimp in, don’t worry (mr. ew finds thta preferable to other filter feeders).

    I went out and got okra. If the Saints win, I want all the credit.

  13. scribe says:

    Way OT: Listening to German radio, they are having their Sunday afternoon long-form talk show. One guest, one interviewer, live audience. Today’s guest is a guy who was one of the leading ministers in the “last” government of the DDR, the one which was in “power” during the winter of 89-90, after the Wall came down and before reunification.

    He’s recounting all the difficulties which they had in running a government, not the least of which was the recurring question of “What laws and constitution are actually valid?”

    IT goes really fast, so I can’t even begin to translate, but there was one gem of a quote which I think we can all appreciate: “We wanted to avoid at all costs a law-free zone. We saw them develop in the old Soviet Republics of Belarus and Ukraine and how that worked out.”

    He came back again and again to the necessity of avoiding a law-free zone.

    • scribe says:

      Here’s a link. It’s also available as a podcast. I missed the guest’s name and had to look it up: Lothar deMaizere, the first and last freely elected prime minister of the DDR.

  14. JohnLopresti says:

    Too complicated to pick the winner; plus bias against old 49er rival Aints. I noticed Rice and Roger Craig both on that *Best* team. Then I checked a kind of idolatrized PostIntelligencer 2004 story about a former Craig-like runner, guy named Hugh McElhenny. I knew a kid who had to listen to the play-by-play of his zigzag routes in SF a while ago. Also, noticed the running back pick on the *Best* team averaged pretty close to what Wendell Tyler had as a 49er in three key years.

  15. Jim White says:

    Speaking as an official Friend of Bergwood, I say, let the (virtual) tailgating begin! Yes, that’s me giving Bergwood a Gator chomp in N’Walins before the Sugar Bowl. My younger daughter thought it would be fun to put that football on my head. Yesterday on Pull Up a Chair, Christy got me started thinking about nachos for the game made with leftover chili, so I’m going to run with it. Just roasted a couple of poblanos to go with the chips, chili, shredded cheese and Newman’s mango salsa. They’re gonna be good.

    Hey Freep, back off claiming MY hubcap! If the Colts win, I wind up 8 for 11 for the playoffs. Even though I picked the Colts, though, I’m pulling for the Saints to go marching in. They’re just a fun group to pull for and if they win, this year could be the most outrageous Mardis Gras ever, going non-stop for eight days. Who wouldn’t want New Oreleans to have that kind of fun?

  16. JohnLopresti says:

    Free@48, I forget the part about the flubs; only remember 1st down in 2 to 3 plays max. You got to advance by running the 8+ yards Plus be sure you have the football until the play stops. I remember Madden notifying people when WT was about to leave that team, WenDELL was the new way to pronounce it. I could go on about Bobby Lane*s passes that seemed to get lost in the tobacco smoke lofting toward the heavens in the great northwest central US stadium; but I probably forget most of the important stuff. Montana had a classically tautologically syntaxed comment in paper today about RogerCraig, and pretty strategic; he said RC*s versatility, capability to run wide receiver routes at appropriate speed, was a tool to make a losing opponent*s defense refrain from substitution, so RC would get to run against a nickel. Because of the quiet period regulation, this is the first year RC and co are eligible for Hall of Fame.

    ewWhen it comes to that okra as condiment issue, I defer to experts. I once stayed in a megapolis in which actual seahorses were saffronned into a rice dish refried in pork rind or some such. I do better working on the range than gnoshin and goshin.

  17. rosalind says:

    w00t! both queen latifah & carrie underwood sang live. and my first super bowl pool – live or memorex? – has been answered.

  18. sluggahjells says:

    As I said earlier, the Colts when they need to have a experienced solid back in Abdai who can run wild if need be.

      • prostratedragon says:

        Not as much as these commercials suck.

        (And I’m definitely rooting for the Who dats, complete with a blues soundtrack.)

      • scribe says:

        Y’know, if the Colts should manage to win this, I would not want to be litigating against you for, oh, about a year. B/c you’re going to be one ornery cuss.

        As well you should be – the Colts should lose.

        One is compelled to wonder what the Football Gods are going to do to balance things out after that laydown, if they let the Colts win.

  19. Jim White says:

    Well that should cheer bmaz up: Breaking–Favre MVP of 2020 Super Bowl! (only good commercial so far–what was up with two in a row with ugly people in underwear?)

  20. Mauimom says:

    cause you know, JC Watts and Steve Largent were such stellar successes in the history of Congress

    And where’s that stellar Heath Shuler?

  21. CTMET says:

    The Who coming up soon. And I thought I’d never see them again after I went to one of the last dates of the 1982 farewell tour at Rich Stadium…

  22. Mauimom says:

    Twenty-two years ago I was confined to bed rest in a DC hospital so my due-in-April son would not be born too soon. [The little bugger arrived March 12, weighing 4# 8 oz. He’s now 6′ tall.]

    The Washington Redskins were playing the Broncos, and since I had an IV in one hand, I couldn’t clap for each touchdown, but would bang the side of the bed with my “good” hand.

    My husband would call me so we could yell after each ‘Skins touchdown, and there were a lot of calls in that second quarter [35 points].

    Fond memories indeed!

    BTW, did folks see the commercial in which an entire community “lays down their bodies” so a Budweiser truck can cross a ravine where a bridge has been washed out?

    Is that “socialism”?

    And if folks can do such “community action” for Bud, why couldn’t we, as a nation, do the same for education, health care, etc.?

    • CTuttle says:

      *heh* 22 year’s ago I was standing on guard duty, listening to the game on AFRN radio, cursing my sorry plight and bemoaning each and every ‘Skin TD, as my Donkies’ were being led to the slaughter house…! *g*

  23. bobschacht says:

    OK, I’ve been away from my computer while watching the first half.
    Saints gambled big by going for the TD on 4th down. He owes his defense something for making Indy kick after 3 & out, so that his offense could get the field goal anyway.
    Colts win first quarter, and I thought they were going to run away with it.
    Saints win second quarter, but can’t pull even.

    Bob in AZ

  24. Mauimom says:

    Woo hoo, the “CSI theme song.”

    At least we don’t have those damn flag-twirling kids that seem to accompany almost every SB half-time.

  25. bobschacht says:

    The suspense is killing me. Which one of the Who is going to be the first to go down with a heart attack? Those guys should be careful lest one of them blow a gasket or something.

    Bob in AZ

  26. Jim White says:

    Heh. They didn’t use the “Who the fuck are you?” part of Who Are You. I’m so disappointed. CBS should have to pay a big fine just for cutting a deal with Focus on the Family, and that would have been a perfect way for it to happen…

  27. rosalind says:

    make it stop!!!! though whoever is doing the mix is doing no favors to remnants of the who currently on our screens. ack.

  28. Mary says:

    NOt to take away from EW finding okra, but I found a tossed shoe this morning AND I had my 1600 lb gelding stuff chewed up shreds of carrot in my ear, so I think omens are at least cancelled out

    Although, come to think of it, bmaz can probably spin a whole ‘nuther omen out of a 1600 lb gelding and the Colts – and come to think more on it, the gelding did just get a coffin joint injection. Maybe I should check out as omen interpreter.

    coltscoltscoltscoltscoltscoltscoltscoltscolts

    • rosalind says:

      being a l.a. city girl, when i read “tossed shoe” the first thing i thought of was this

      go saints! anyone dry eyed after watching drew & son is made of stone, i say, stone.

  29. scribe says:

    That had to be one of the most vile pile bottom fights ever.

    And Payton has a set so big, the need their own cart to carry them around.

  30. bobschacht says:

    That was a nifty bit of running for the Saints’ TD!
    After an incredible surprise of on-side kick to start the half!
    They are giving us some entertainment, fo’ sho’!

    Bob in AZ

  31. Jim White says:

    Who Dats lead!

    Mary: That’s a huge horse! Usually, I’d slap one upside the head for doing that (my yearling got slapped pretty good when she tried to nibble my arm yesterday), but maybe that one can do what he wants.

    Off to open a beer…

  32. Phoenix Woman says:

    By the way for those of you who say that the ‘Ooo’s lost it (Roger in particular): Hubby, who saw the Who back in 1980, sez Daltrey sounded like that back then. There was also the extra added entertainment of watching him trying to brain Pete with his swinging-dick mic in classic frenemies fashion. At least this time around everyone onstage was at least tolerant of everyone else’s presence.

    • bmaz says:

      His voice has been crapped out for a long time now; at least 15+ years. But tonight was really bad, and it is not like he wore it out over a long show or anything either.

  33. bobschacht says:

    Saints ahead!

    Anyone else have the problem of hearing the play-by-play over the crowd noise? I have 3 TVs on; the Sylvania has the best sound, the Sony Bravia sound is virtually useless. Vizio in between on sound, crappy video.

    BTW, I see the Saints receivers are perfecting the art of running backwards after the catch.

    Bob in AZ

    • bobschacht says:

      Mark that INT. Same guy who picked the Geezer to end this year’s comeback.

      That’s amazing. There oughta be some special award for that.

      Bob in AZ

  34. Mary says:

    A bunch a big geldings with bad coffin joints it is.

    Oh well, at least I have the cute Bella pic takeaway – should be a magazine cover.

    Enjoy your party Whodatters.

    • bmaz says:

      Indy pissed off the Football Gods at the end of the regular season. You don’t fuck with the ghosts of Jim Thorpe and Vince Lombardi.

      • scribe says:

        That’s why I said to mark that INT.

        I knew then (But didn’t want to say it) that the Football Gods had weighed in there – the poetry of the defender intercepting Peyton being the same guy who intercepted The Geezer was too perfect, too complete, to be anything but rectification for the Colts laying down instead of playing to win.

        Sean Payton played to win tonight. He took the risks and it paid off. The Colts were fat, happy, undefeated and feeling entitled. They lay down. And tonight it bit them in the ass.

        Somewhere, Vince Lombardi and Jim Thorpe are smiling, Wellington Mara with them (looking down at Shockey, one of his great disappointments) and Art Rooney is lighting a cigar.

  35. masaccio says:

    So I’m watching on some BBC channel and the explanation is fabulous. There are no commercials, so we watch the announcers analyze things with you. After you see this 3 times, you see why Manning threw it to that guy. It looks like the safety is inside, so the defender had no long help. That means single coverage, so Manning thought his guy had position.

    Also, you realize just how much time is devoted to commercials. A whole lot.

  36. bobschacht says:

    The missed catch by 87 cooked the Colts goose (sorry for mixing animal metaphors)!

    Did anyone bet that the Saints would hold the Colts to only 17 points?

    Bob in AZ

  37. sundog says:

    Woohoo, WTG N.O! As a Purdue grad, I had to go for New Orleans, even though I live in Indiana. Of course, I’m up near Chicago, so I’m more a Bears fan than an Indy fan. But to see another Purdue QB win the SB, that’s awesome. What a game though. It ended in the 4th Q, not the 1st.

  38. emptywheel says:

    WooooooTTT

    Have you folks been here all night?

    I was out at friends with my–oh, did I mention my gumbo was superb? Glad I made the effort bc as soon as we served it things started going NOLA’s way.

  39. scribe says:

    Too funny. I switched over to ESPN and Chris Berman, in full shtick, has yelled himself hoarse.

    I wonder how he’s going to say “You’re with me, Leather” when he;s hat hoarse….

    • bmaz says:

      It is time to get back to what is really important now that the season is over: What does this mean for Brett Favre’s future??

      • freepatriot says:

        What does this mean for Brett Favre’s future??

        just the usual

        retirement, tears, 6 months of pullin our dicks, more tears, and finally, an un-retirement

        dint cha see the commercial ???

      • sluggahjells says:

        Oh, we don’t even need to worry about that. He will be the MVP in the Super bowl ten years from now.

  40. emptywheel says:

    ANd let me just say to Joe Lombardi, now an Assistant Coach for NO, who I last knew as the one Lombardi kid who was too young to really hang out with, congrats on sharing a piece of the trophy named after your grandfather Vince. That’s pretty cool.

  41. bmaz says:

    No coronation to the greatest of all time status for Peyton tonight. He now has the same SB record as Brett Favre, who everybody says is such a fatally flawed broken toy.

    • emptywheel says:

      Well, there are a few more people, historically, that I’d might rather have CATCHING the interception. But yeah, Peyton throwing it? Made my day. Week, even. Even after a very bad week.

  42. randiego says:

    I’m not sure what was better about the game – Peyton’s pick-six, or the fact that the entire national media got suckered on the Dwight Freeney playing on one leg story.

      • randiego says:

        Okay yeah, I’ll give you that.

        But, Freeney had to be double-teamed the whole night, and still kept getting through. The media got played, his injury clearly wasn’t as bad as they made it out to be.

        • bobschacht says:

          …Freeney had to be double-teamed the whole night, and still kept getting through.

          Getting through… and doing what? Drew Fookin Brees still tied the Superbowl record for number of completed passes (32). And won the game. With no interceptions.

          And how about Shockley’s presence of mind during that 2-point conversion, while doing a somersault?

          Bob in AZ

    • bobschacht says:

      …the entire national media got suckered on the Dwight Freeney playing on one leg story.

      Maybe the real story is that Freeney was pretty much a non-story for the game. What did he get? One sack?

      Bob in AZ

    • freepatriot says:

      I’m not sure what was better about the game

      the on-side kick to open the second half

      that was one great scrum

      • emptywheel says:

        Yeah, and Sean Payton gets to rightly claim he has the biggest balls in the country now.

        You think we can get him to replace Mary Landrieu and become Majority Leader?

        • freepatriot says:

          everybody knows that Nawlins has “THE BIGGEST BALLS OF THEM ALL”

          hat tip to Bon Scott

          O we’ve got big ball

          we’ve got big balls

          and he has big balls

          and she has big balls

          but we’ve got the BIGGEST BALLS OF THEM ALL

  43. bobschacht says:

    Freep @ 195:
    “dint cha see the commercial ???”

    yeah, but in the commercial didn’t he say something about his answer being clear in about 10 years?

    Bob in AZ

  44. prostratedragon says:

    Great camera work on that play, the reason for the overrule very clear. And that was when the Who Dat-mentum really took over.

    [What’s got so much better in the last year or so? Cameras? Are these new tvs and hd broadcasts really that much better? I guess the first thing I noticed was this fall, when a baseball announcer said some batter had made a last minute adjustment to a pitch, I actually could see quite plainly what it was.]