What’s in Feeney’s File on Rove?
In my post on the dead-enders doing Dallas, I briefly noted an exchange between Rove and a former Tom Feeney staffer. The eye-popping part was Rove’s admission that he has a file on Feeney’s perceived disloyalty to Bush. But just as interesting was the staffer, Jason Roe’s reminder to Rove that Bush owed his presidency to Feeney, the speaker of the FL House of Representatives during the 2000 recount.
Roe walked over to the table, "I’m Jason Roe."
Rove: "Oh, the famous Jason Roe."
Roe: "I don’t know that I’m famous, but I’m Tom Feeney’s former chief of staff, and I’m offended by your comments on Fox about Tom. You guys wouldn’t be in the White House without Tom. And you made these really degrading comments about him that offended a lot of people."
(Sidenote: Tom Feeney was the speaker of the Florida House of Representatives during the whole Bush/Gore 2000 recount.)
Rove: "Well, I have a file on the things Tom Feeney said about George Bush."
Roe: "That says more about you than me that you kept a file on Tom Feeney. This guy was so restrained in his desire to criticize the president — even against this staff’s advice."
Rove: "I have a file."
Along with a bunch of other people, I nagged Brad Friedman, who has covered allegations that Feeney contracted with asked a software company in 2004 to rig touchscreen voting machines, to comment on the Roe reference. Brad separated out Feeney’s known role in 2000…
But as to the "You guys wouldn’t be in the White House without Tom" line, we don’t have any hard evidence of anything newly nefarious in that, given what is already on the public record concerning Feeney’s helping hand to Bush during the FL 2000 democracy abortion.
Amidst the 36 day battle following Election Day 2000 in the Sunshine State, Feeney, who was then Speaker of the FL House and arguably the second most powerful politician in the state (after Dubya’s brother Jeb, who was Governor at the time), made it clear that he was prepared to pass legislation in the Republican Florida House to grant all of Florida’s electors to George W. Bush no matter what the U.S. Supreme Court ended up deciding. As the state’s Constitution grants the power to determine Presidential Electors to the legislature, and that power has been passed on by them to the voting electorate, Feeney was prepared to take that power back for his buddy Dubya (Feeney had previously run as Jeb’s running mate in his unsuccessful 1994 bid for the Governorship), and select Bush’s electors by government fiat, no matter what the courts had determined.
Sleazy? Of course. We’d expect no less from Feeney. But nefariously illegal? Not really. But that, we suspect, is what Roe was most likely referring to in his comments to Rove.
Feeney had other roles to play, of course, in the theft of Florida’s 2000 election, according to the whistleblower Curtis who spoke of "exclusion lists" and the use of armed police at polling places in minority areas which, he says, "Feeney used to brag about".
..from the allegations of voting machine hacking that came out in 2004…
In his now fairly well known allegations against Feeney, first broken here in December of 2004, Curtis had alleged that Feeney first asked the CEO of the company where they both worked (Yang Enterprises Inc. — Curtis as computer programmer, Feeney as general counsel and registered lobbyist, even as he was also speaker of the FL House) for what amounted to a touch-screen vote-rigging software prototype, in "late September or October of 2000", according to his sworn affidavit [PDF]. That would have been just a month or two before the 2000 FL election, and the short demonstration program that Curtis says he created for him, wouldn’t likely have been in time to use for that November’s election. Furthermore, though a version of the program could easily have been adapted for use on central tabulating computers (the main vote counters), the progam was allegedly meant for use on touch-screen voting systems, which FL hadn’t yet been using at the time.
After the 2000 race however — where paper ballots were allegedly gamed in Palm Beach County, according to the stunning on-camera testimony of 7 former company employees from Sequoia Voting Systems who’d produced the bulk of the state’s punch-card paper ballots (broadcast video here) — Florida moved quickly thereafter to touch-screen voting systems across much of the state.
Thanks, Brad, for laying that out. Click through to Brad’s post for a review of still-unexplained issues with the 2000 election.
Now, if Jason Roe has any further revelations about how Feeney helped out Bush, I’d be happy to hear it.
Update: corrected some inaccuracies. Curtis alleged that Feeney asked Yang Enterprises to do the vote-rigging software in 2000, though there is no indication it was or could have been used in 2000.
What was it Rove said about Feeney on Fox?
Found it at Slate:
Rove: “It was a big night, no doubt about it, but look, the people who got defeated last night were people who had not done their homework and hadn’t gotten ready for a tough race.
“You know, like this guy Feeney in Florida.”
Colmes: “Tom Feeney, yes.”
Rove: “Tom Feeney, who — who had a bunch of ethical issues raised and then voted against the rescue package. You know, voting against the rescue package was supposed to be a sure thing to get you elected in some quarters.”
Nothing like alliteration: Feeney, Florida and Foul Play. Thanks for this, EW
O/T (my apologies) but here’s the on-going list of failed banks:
http://www.fdic.gov/bank/indiv…..klist.html
Also OT. Not getting a lot of press, but the effect of the two corporate CU’s going down is that the correspondent institutions must pony up to replenish the fund. In my neighborhood, the $1 billion dollar CU’s are writing checks in the $8-9M range – which drops right to the bottom line, and severely affects the capital ratios. I’m guessing we’re going to see some ripple effect from that. Already very substantial layoffs and branch closures.
http://www.ncua.gov/news/press…..9-0410.htm
Why would it matter in 2009 who was disloyal to Bush? Even if Rove wanted to punish someone, there’s no enforcement mechanism–unless he’s looking to blackmail people with their illegal actions, I suppose, but Rove’s hands are dirty too. I really don’t know what he’s driving at here or why he thinks “I have a list” is an ominous thing to say.
That’s the real question, isn’t it?
So perhaps the thing to do is go back to the underlying exchange.
Rove said (basically): Tom Feeney lost because 1) ethical issues, and 2) voted against rescue package. The first is true, to a point, but of course Rove was trying to dismiss that election day was a bloodbath (again) because people hate Bush so much. In other words, Rove was blaming others–in fact blaming those who were disloyal–for the unpopularity of Bush.
So Roe complains and says, “you guys would never had made it to the WH without us”–basically attacking Rove for being disloyal himself.
And ROve’s response was, “we’ve got a list.”
Now, obviously, if both these pols were going entities, then you might see one punish the other in the future for disloyalty. Whoeevr wins control of the party will enforce discilpine on the other for breaking ranks.
Thing is, it’s a asymmetric relationship. As shitty as Bush’s rep is, Rove’s is still viable (among some Republicans anyway), whereas Feeney will be gratefully to avoid jail. (Which is not to say Rove’s not got his own legal issues; his could get really ugly really quickly).
But then underlying all of this is that they were involved in some stuff–in addition to the voting stuff, the Abramoff stuff–that they coudl rat out each other on.
SO there’s the possibility that Rove could be a key part of the nucleus of a revived party. There’s the possibility that the famous Bush revenge on disloyalty coudl kick in. Or there’s the possibility that two crooks are trying to suss out what the other one has–and to disempower the other–as part of a decision process on legal issues.
never thought I’d say this, but
DROP THE BONG AND STEP AWAAAAAAAY FROM THE COMPUTER
I think you got some bad shit there, ew
paraquat must be making a comeback or something
(or it could have been a bad bottle of Beamish)
KKKarl rove could be the nucleus of a new party ???
what party would want him ???
the LEPER party, maybe ???
turd blossom made shit from gold
check the state of the repuglitard party after 8 years of kkkarl’s handiwork
any repuglitard could have put up a decent showing in 2000, and probably won legitimately. george bush barely squeaked by, and he had to destroy Rienquist’s legacy to do it
I still ain’t convinced bush won Ohio on the square in 2004
the repulitards have lost FOURTEEN SENATE SEATS in four years, and I don’t know how many House seats
I could destroy the repuglitard party in eight years, if I really tried
but kkkarl wasn’t trying to destroy the repuglitard party
anybody who thinks kkkarl rove is a political genius deserves the ass whipping the got comming
But, Rove’s got the freaking FILES!!! And where did you get your medical info?
good
kkkarl can “Produce” those files
it will help him recover his memory in front or the JURY
and upon further review, we don’t let felons vote, or form political parties
my crystal bong doesn’t show a happy future for kkkarl
karma is a bitch, and she has kkkarl’s balls in her hands …
Whoops, it was a file, not a list, but it still doesn’t seem scary to me.
Remember Nixon’s Enemies List and Jedgar’s voluminous files? Such lists and files do serve a purpose. Why, even Santa Claus keeps a list, though his focuses on the positive!
The only thing here that I find interesting is that Roe seems surprised that Rove would go after Feeny. After Katherine Harris went under the bus, you’d think all those Florida Republicans would have realized that they’re worth less than used Kleenex to Team Bush.
when i heard that “i have a file” line i flashed on chapter one of “angler”.
i can easily picture piles of files containing all the deep, dark dirt to keep the loyal foot soliders in line.
CNN- The Captain has been released!
Three pirates killed and one captured.
I was wondering that last night … why don’t they send in some SEALS under the cover of darkness to take these guys out …
Minnesota Chuck shared a submarine with a cool mini-sub on top. Click on the photo to enlarge it.
Thanks, I love reading about new technologies, even deadly ones.
Armed Police at inner city polling places throughout Florida provided by the Florida Sheriff’s Association, President at the time, Neil Perry, St. Johns County Sheriff.
Co-Chair to re-elect the Bushes always. SJC home of Colombo the smuggler Bush, and Jeb’s daughter, Nicole, the prescription pill shopper, GP the stalker, and Jeb Jr.. the Marsh Landing kid who had the best and wildest parties in all of SJC that never got busted.
well, we all knew the repuglitards was gonna get ugly in their death struggle
but nobody predicted “teh stooopid” was gonna consume the repuglitards before they consumed themselves
glen beck is gonna try INTENTIONAL COMEDY for once
princess pandora is arguing about the great benefits of abstinence with the kid who knocked up princess pandora’s daughter
mikey steele sees no evidence of the depression he could see last week
America took a GOOD look at lushbo limpballs, and now America knows who the enemy is
and the repuglitards think they’re making good progress
david broder tried to spin the rassmussen poll again, and half of the comments asked why dickless broder didn’t mention the fact that the repuglitards are a dying party, outnumbered by independents (and yes, it’s true, the man has no dick)
the repuglitard message is that Barack Obama is a militant christofacist-muslim-jew, who wants to destroy America and the world with bitter commie-pinko tax cuts
and the repuglitards think they got a winner there
I mean, NOBODY COULD HAVE PREDICTED THAT THE REPUGLITARD PARTY WOULD SHATTER IN A CLOUD OF BATSHIT INSANITY
but we can all grab some popcorn and enjoy it …
I don’t know if I’m the only one, but it was a terrifying ride before the dim-witted American public caught on.
Nice to see you in true form again fp!
Oh, and for all: JEHoover called his extortion instrument a “Jacket”, which was, of course, a file folder. Just so we use the historically accurate term *g*.
He wanted to call it a corset, but that would have given him away.
And when he was in the mood for silk, they were dossiers.
who, kkkarl, or hoover ???
and exactly how fucked up IS that dude’s first name if he preferred edger ??? must be really bad; Jackwad edger maybe ???
Jackoff ?
And you really don’t want to know what he likely hoovered in his spare time…..
It was John. And here’s more on Jedger and Clyde:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Edgar_Hoover
I’d love to know what happened to most of the files, er jackets. When the FOIA finally came into being, many ordinary folk involved in the Civil Rights Movement requested their files and were amazed at the info in them.
because every great joke needs a “Topper”
meet the new face of the repuglitard party
ROTFLMAO
You’ve been on fire the last couple of days !
this whole “tea bagging” thing has been playing real well in Peoria, so I’ve been gettin a lot of positive feedback in the meat world
ya shouldn’t do that, it just encourages me
people been LAUGHING OUT LOUD about the repuglitards obtuseness. I live kinda close to San Francisco, so we’ve been personal witnesses to the Gay Rights Movement there. A lot of people around here know what tea bagging is about
half of them don’t believe there really is a tea bagger protest movement (and btw, they’ve been askin me, okay, I’m not mentioning it to them)
they’re gonna be surprised as hell on Wednesday (i hope these idiot repuglitards don’t let me down)
I’m lovin life
let’s just say I’m a snark assassin, and I live in a “Target Rich Environment”
I don’t make this shit up, I just explain it to people, and they fall over laughing …
it’s easy to be funny with material like this
(wink)
nobody could have predicted this
This comment of yours deserves special mention !
I guess Clyde helped keep the corsets, er jackets, properly adjusted.
as kkkarl would say, I can’t see why you people are so focused on the past
it’s time to discuss our future under Our New Canine Overlord
cuz you know the corporate media is gonna be all over it
fookin Obama, upstaging my teabagger morans an shit, teh bastid …
What I’d like to know is “What’s in Conyer’s
Feeney’sFile on Rove?”Like how many times Turdblossom was caught perjuring himself before the HJC staff attorneys?
Stern letters.
Reminds me of the commercial “what’s in your wallet”
What’s in your file?
If we are drawing parallels here, the worst thing that JEH thought he could accuse someone of being was a homosexual.
What does Rover accuse everyone of?