“In response to bmaz @ 46
The Democrats never learn and always repeat their weaknesses and mistakes. Watergate, Iran-Contra, and now this; we are going to leave the Zombie Borg intact to be undead assassins again, thats just what we do. We get the crap kicked out of us, go in the corner and lick our wounds, come out and sing Kumbaya and repeat the process. It is insane, and this is exactly what Obama’s quote indicates. The Goopers, on the other hand, are indeed the Borg. They learn from their mistakes, adapt and assimilate and return with stronger evil every time, because we never step on their fucking throat while they are down. The meek shall inherit the earth, and Democrats are constantly eating dust and dirt. It is literally kind of pathetic.

What Bmaz said”

Might be useful to contrast with what FDR did during the 30’s with the boyz who persued business practices that led to the Great Depression, or at least the depth of it.

Because many of those practices were not illegal precisely at the time they were in fashion, FDR persued a political course, encouraging members of the House and Senate to hold elaborate hearings throughout his first term that served mostly to ruin the reputation of the bankers, fianceers, brokers, and the like. A few obviously criminal acts were prosecuted, but relatively few, and on fairly narrow grounds. But someone like Andrew Mellon, who had been both Coolidge and Hoover’s Secretary of the Treasury spent months before Congressional Committees being taken apart, piece by piece. The elaborate and detailed hearings were premised on the question that Congress needed to have detailed information, so as to make certain practices properly illegal. After four years of being investigated, FDR finally allowed him into the WH for tea, and accepted the deed to the National Gallery and its foundation collection (much of which Mellon had bought cheap out of the Tzar’s collection after the Russian Revolution, illegally dealing with the Soviets). Mellon promptly died a couple weeks later. FDR repeated this form with a number of other “villains” enough to create the political narrative that made Republicans and Hoover nasty words for a couple of decades. In a sense it was a Truth and Reconciliation Commission, Congress required the details under oath, and at least a major part of ill gotten assets had to be delivered to the public commons.

I recommend the method. Political “crimes” need to be punished via political methods. Much of what they have done has to do with greed for power, and methods that cause them to destroy themselves for a couple of generations really represent Justice.

…I recommend [FDR’s] method. Political “crimes” need to be punished via political methods. Much of what they have done has to do with greed for power, and methods that cause them to destroy themselves for a couple of generations really represent Justice.

Sara,
Very nice historical insight. Thanks! This might indeed be the way to go.

Bob in HI

Interesting. I could live with that type of “outing” to make sure these criminals never hold office or have power again.

“Criminal prosecution is the only thing that will stop these people. I was sick that Clinton let bygones be bygones in 1992, and I am afraid I will have to hate it again. We desperately need to put their cowardly asses in the dock and make them defend themselves.”

As I have said in other threads, I dream of a trial followed by a hanging on the Mall, complete with drawing and quartering after the hanging, but our problem is whether under existing law and procedural rules and the inventory of Judges, you could even get to trial. I suggest that the huge effort necessary to try and probably fail would be worse than extracting the pound of flesh by political means. More important, I seriously doubt if voters for democrats in the next election put the pound of flesh before things that impact daily lives, such as health care, educational matters, jobs, home mortgages, National bankruptcy, and the rest. A President and much of the next Congress will have to be busy with those immediate issue matters.

Better to understand how a smart pol can cause political death for a generation or so of Republicans. When FDR started talking about “Economic Royalists” in that 1936 election campaign, all the folk who depended on beans for part of their diet fully understood what he meant — even if he was one of the most “Elitist” men ever elected President, and certainly not one who really shared their pain. (Remember; “Traitor to his Class”?) He meant the perps who had been dragged before committees in Congress, and forced under oath to describe their practices and shame themselves.

Earlofhuntingdon says…”The only thing history teaches us is that we refuse to learn from it.”

Sadly our problem isn’t so much a refusal to learn from — it is a refusal to learn any History. We are a nation of Historical Illiterates, and much of the system is set up to preserve that state of affairs.

..and doesn’t it all makes sense only if the Dems are in on it too? There is no difference between the parties. Door number 1 is the same as door number 2. Obama is a 32 level freemason, who is silent on his early 80’s time at Columbia Univ where he was brought on board with the Illuminati. He is related to Cheney, and there is the upcoming Larry Sinclair accusation which point to a dark side to Obama. Ron Paul or Kucinich are the only ones who aren’t “in” and Kucinich is not on the ticket. We are in such amazing times that the only way out may be to vote GOP(Paul)!

no offence taken, at all :), I don’t want it to be true either, but why would Eisenhower, on his last day, and JFK, a few months before his assassination and J. Edgar Hoover say that there is a secret insideous power group in place and we must stop it? The evidence is consistent with it and that invokes Sherlock Holmes quote about going where the evidence leads no matter how improbable.