Administration Continues to Cling to Precedent of Slavery, Genocide, and Illegal Belligerency to Legitimize Its Actions
It has increasingly become clear that the Obama Administration treats the category of “terrorist” more flexibly than the Bush Administration did. With the introduction of the term “countering violent extremism,” for example, the Administration broadened the potential application of terrorist tools to those who were simply, according to them, “extremists.” Then there’s the odd treatment of a bunch of Colombian right wing terrorists, who were extradited on drug charges (but not terrorism), and then entirely disappeared from the docket, with allegations that at least one of them had been freed. And while the Obama Administration has charged some white people with using WMD (a terrorism crime), the disparity in its use is stark.
Carol Rosenberg has been tracking another telling example of the Obama Administration’s flexible interpretations of terrorist-like activity: DOD’s citation of a legally suspect ruling about an attack on Seminoles as precedent for trying material support for terrorism in military commissions.
Pentagon prosecutors touched off a protest — and issued an apology this week — for likening the Seminole Indians in Spanish Florida to al Qaeda in documents defending Guantánamo’s military commissions.
Citing precedents, prosecutors reached back into the Indian Wars in arguments at an appeals panel in Washington D.C. Specifically, they invoked an 1818 military commission convened by Gen. Andrew Jackson after U.S. forces invaded then-Spanish Florida to stop black slaves from fleeing through a porous border — then executed two British men for helping the Seminole Indians.
Navy Capt. Edward S. White also wrote this in a prosecution brief:
“Not only was the Seminole belligerency unlawful, but, much like modern-day al Qaeda, the very way in which the Seminoles waged war against U.S. targets itself violate the customs and usages of war.”
In other words, our government is siding with slavery, genocide of Native Americans, and Andrew Jackson’s illegal belligerency–it is citing our own country’s illegal behavior–to find some support for the claim that material support is a military crime.
Not surprisingly, the Seminole tribe objected (see Rosenberg’s collection of documents in the case here). And now Jeh Johnson (he of the claim that Martin Luther King would have empathized with the attacks on Afghans) has apologized to the tribe–but reiterated our reliance on the precedent.
The Pentagon’s top lawyer has sent the Seminole Tribe of Florida what amounts to an apology for Guantánamo war court lawyers likening al Qaida to the Native American tribe in 1818.
But Defense Department general counsel Jeh Johnson made clear in the single-page letter that the U.S. government was standing by its precedent from Gen. Andrew Jackson’s Indian Wars in its bid to uphold the life-time conviction of Osama bin Laden’s media secretary at Guantánamo’s Camp Justice.
And so it is that our government clings desperately to one of the darkest chapters of our history to legitimize its current actions. Rather than reflect on what that means–how damning it is that we can point only to Andrew Jackson’s illegal treatment of Native Americans to justify our current conduct–the government says simply, “a precedent is a precedent!”
Apparently, our country has learned nothing in the last 200 years.
Update: Jackson corrected for Johnson, thanks to JTIDAHO.
I like this from the prosecutors:
[from the linked Miami Herald article]
Yes, I saw that, too. Good catch, and really gets to the amoral core of what this government is all about.
Thanks for highlighting this, EW, and thanks to powwow for the excellent references to the little-reported CMCR arguments.
As to the ridiculous article on the CIA, the source for the criticism re the CIA supposedly pulling back is dubious, CIA-linked itself, the International Crisis Group. This article by John Pilger has a nice vignette that captures what kind of people this is, highlighting a certain moment with Gareth Evans, the President emeritus of ICG:
The article is pure spin, as noted in this paragraph (where you must imagine the poor CIA interrogators, forced to sit with their hands in the laps and be good boys and girls while the security officers from other countries tolerate their presence:
The article is a joke. Can’t you hear them laughing when Saxby Chambliss says “Now we’ll have to rely on a foreign government to grant us access to this terrorist to obtain vital intelligence, if we’re lucky.”
One of the commenters to this curious article succinctly noted that there’s “no big change in policy here . . . we’re just removing our fingerprints.”
I don’t suppose Australia’s criticism of Indonesia’s alleged genocide reflected its own treatment of aboriginal populations. It does seem to admit that the conflict there, as is likely true of US interventions across North Africa and the Middle East, is about resources and money, not about who’s being nice to the natives or “giving” them Freeeeeedom.
Glenn Greenwald writes on this today, too:
Manning, Obama and U.S. moral leadership; Glenn Greenwald; 4/11/11
ooops, this should be on the previous thread…sorry! [except maybe for the “moral leadership” aspect, maybe…see comment @1]
Excellent post – I always read emptywheel every morning, but its Andrew Jackson, not Andrew Johnson (too many Jacksons and Johnsons). First is first sentence after the first quote, second is second sentence after the second quote.
Man, I’m boneheaded today! Thanks, fixed.
This gives me a good opportunity to highly recommend that readers take the time to listen to the (repeat) oral arguments in the two pivotal cases at issue before the Court of Military Commission Review (CMCR), which were held on March 17th in Washington, D.C. [It is those CMCR proceedings in which the Seminole arguments were raised by government lawyers. Unsurprisingly, and contrary to the information I had when I wrote this 3/17 comment, there were in fact two repeat oral arguments that day before the en banc CMCR, not one, because Hamdan was also reargued.]
3/17/2011 Oral Arguments: Al Bahlul, or Case #09-001, and Hamdan, or Case #09-002.
I particularly recommend the Al Bahlul argument, which was the first of the day (the original Al Bahlul CMCR oral argument in January, 2010 was never made available by the CMCR): Michel Paradis did an outstanding job on behalf of both Ali al Bahlul (who is serving a life sentence at Guantanamo, after being denied the ability to defend himself, and refusing the services of his DOD defense counsel David Frakt) and our Constitutional system of government. Paradis sounded thoroughly familiar with his subject, confident, and uncowed by the line-up of eight military officers facing him to test his arguments for the second time.
In the Hamdan argument, Hamdan’s long-time civilian defense counsel Joseph McMillan of Hamdan’s Perkins Coie pro bono team repeated the solid, competent performance he delivered a year ago, against the same lame, even embarrassing, performance by retired Army Colonel Fran Gilligan for the government – Gilligan’s argument was again largely political, and obviously tailored for his former military colleagues serving on the CMCR.
D.C. reporters drooling over, or dreading, the prospects of attending their first military commission proceedings at Guantanamo, if and when the alleged perpetrators of 9/11 are hauled out of their cages for some sort of presidential-prisoner proceedings before military judges and juries, ought to take special care to familiarize themselves with these CMCR proceedings, however belatedly. That’s because the pending judgements in these two appeals – from a new court now composed solely of military officers who also serve on the appellate service courts of criminal appeals (for members of the American military) – may well soon play a decisive role in the future of the ongoing subversion of justice by our Congress and President at their segregated Guantanamo Military Commission playground.
There are a few well-defined issues at stake in these two appeals, and, as the Seminole reference highlighted in the post indicates, the government is grasping at straws to defend the 2006 Congressionally-asserted “universal war crimes” of “material support for terrorism” and “conspiracy” – acts committed by the defendants years before 2006, to boot. If the CMCR is determined to defend these two Commission convictions at any cost, it will likewise need to grasp at straws (and will be seen to be doing so), in my opinion. Thus, the failure of the Obama administration to await these two CMCR rulings, before forcing AG Holder to walk the plank and void a valid Grand Jury indictment for the 9/11 attacks, having already waited this long to make its move, seems like the height of folly, even if taking the path of least political resistance is one’s only guiding principle, as seems to be the case with Barack Obama.
The CMCR could try to limit its rulings to the specific facts of these two cases (the only two Commission cases which will reach the CMCR, unless and until future 9/11 Commission proceedings ensue). Or the CMCR could honorably make up for its unseemly leisure in deciding these important appeals (the only cases on its docket) – delay which has further postponed putting the question of the legitimacy of the latest, 2006 version of the Guantanamo Military Commissions four-square before our independent federal judiciary – by addressing the fundamentals that lie just beneath the surface of both cases (the Constitutional reach of Congressional power in this area, for example); broader rulings which would impact all Commission proceedings going forward, even as appeals continue in the D.C. Circuit and possibly beyond.
They had to wait until David Kris, who believed the material support charges may be illegal, to leave, don’t you think?
Which of course doesn’t bode well for the outcome.
Yes (in the process helping push out a valuable public servant, with rare personal integrity at the high-level position he held), and yes.
[I wouldn’t be a bit surprised, either, if another political calculation went into this – a calculation that it wouldn’t hurt to try to pressure the CMCR into upholding the military commissions/convictions, by having Obama make such a high-profile move to rehabilitate the commissions, for the 9/11 perpetrators, while the CMCR’s decisions are still pending. At minimum, I’m sure that the Obama administration is counting on the appeals process outlasting his term of office, regardless of how the CMCR rules “in (over-) due course.”]
Swell the background music:
CIA has slashed its terrorism interrogation role
The agency has stopped trying to detain or interrogate suspects caught abroad, except those captured in Iraq and Afghanistan.
LINK.
That’s because the DoD can still maintain secret prisons; I assume it “outsources” some of their interrogations, too.
The Nazis blinked.
No. They lied. It’s what they do. Believe the opposite of their words.
I sadly stand corrected.
My thought on seeing that headline this morning:
That’s because they get the other guys to do the torturing now; the CIA only has to accept the data delivery.
It is an odd article, isn’t it?
Thanks ever so much, EW, for underscoring the ugliness that also marks US history. What Jackson did in south GA, north FL and eastern AL while chasing the Seminoles and Creeks was simply barbarous.
Like those bastards, the Minutemen.
— Ralph Waldo Emerson
The British, following current US military policy, would have killed the farmers before they ever got to the bridge according to an ISAF news release.
Mr. Obama inherited Bush’s Burrowers at the DoJ. He hasn’t just accepted them, rather than fight their abuse of civil service protections. (He seems incapable of fighting opponents; he’s only confident fighting would be supporters). He has elevated their stature and empowered them to make increasingly obscure and violent uses of awful precedents.
That his DoJ is reduced to citing precedents relating to genocide against American Indians – even those that combined making war on them to defend slavery – is testament to how little credible support his views find in the law of nations or the hearts of men.
Using America’s tortured “legal” claims against native populations to justify his own perverted versions of justice and security is beyond words. It borders on analogies we once, but no longer, would have considered obscene. The one that comes to mind is Nazi prosecution of Jews for violating the Nuremberg Laws.
Is Mr. Obama so empty a suit that he has lost his soul? Or is he the proverbial water looking for the nearest, strongest vessel to give him shape – regardless of what filth that vessel already contains?
Or, perhaps we could borrow an idea from Grover Norquist for that proverbial water of which you speak?
Someone posted on another thread a quote from him in 2005 which suggests the rhetoric of the campaign was misunderstood by most of us. He meant to compromise. He signaled it when he said he’d negotiate (in the context of foreign adversaries) anyone at any time.
Negotiation = compromise. We’ve been compromised. Negotiation complete.
Based on his actions, that’s what he meant. The rest was hollow rhetoric crafted to win election. He and his handlers knew Bush would be despised. And they knew we’d elect Stalin himself if he masqueraded as the AntiBush.
Yes.
Chains We Can Believe In
I hope that phrase isn’t trademarked because I’m gonna use it. If you thought of it, bravo.
New term of the day: an ‘Uncle Barack.’
Martin Luther King would have empathized with Andrew Jackson /s
new Obomber campaign slogan
Fo(u)r More Wars
The whole damn world’s watching.
Bradley Manning case sparks UN criticism of US government
This is disgusting. I am sick to death of the people running us into the ground and the enablers who don’t just stand by and allow it to happen; they encourage it!
Our government is illegitimate. I f’ing want to sue.
It’s early. I’m watching my language. My blood just boils over this.
So, now anyone who wants to downplay precedent need only to read this. POTUS could equally stand for “Precedent Of The United States.
The disparity in persons willing to use WMDs is also stark.
from Attackerman:
KIMBERLY DOZIER, AP Intelligence Writer, Apr 8 2011:
Thank you. This is truly revealing.
“Will there never be an end to the
IndianSeminole Wars?”When I am verbally accosted by members of the Tea Party and 9/12ers in this redneck county, and they babble on hysterically about Obama and detention camps and rooundups, I do have to slow them down to say, “You have some of it right, but it’s not so much YOU who must fear this: it’s anyone who can be called and ‘extremist’.
Thanks, Emptywheel.
The US asserts the right to use ad hoc military commissions to try alleged terrorists. It cites an example of their use from 1818, by Andrew Jackson after the First Seminole War (1817-18), and makes the following hurried distinction, as quoted by the Miami Herald:
When citing examples of persuasive, not binding, legal precedent, it’s dangerous to distinguish the precedent’s “legal” value from its morality or propriety. Those are what make the example persuasive. The legal arguments are analogies, not controlling law. They are considered persuasive because their arguments are so compelling that they should be regarded as if they were binding, even though they are not.
Using Andrew Jackson’s ad hoc military tribunal in 1818 as precedent for the use of such commissions today is the basest sophistry. Its jurisdiction was questionable, its process was summary, and so was the ultimate execution of two British subjects, which General Jackson decreed despite his commission’s recommendation of leniency. Their execution haunted Jackson’s career for decades.
Andrew Jackson made his name fighting Indians and taking their territory. Those wars ultimately made him president. Jackson,
America fought three Seminole wars from 1817 – 1858. They were three acts in the long American play entitled Indian Removal [genocide]. The rationale was that it was America’s Manifest Destiny to control the land from sea to shining sea. Denying Indians their lands, life and liberty was just the means. Howard Zinn:
The First Seminole War resulted in the US taking Florida from the moribund Spanish empire. Jackson’s role was akin to Stanley MacChrystal’s. He led a punitive expedition into foreign territory to punish native Americans for being natives and for allegedly helping escaped slaves. Except that as subjects of the Spanish crown, they owed no duty to the United States. They had no duty to protect the “property rights” that southern Americans regarded as sacrosanct because they formed the basis of their entire economy. They had no duty to regard escaped slaves as slaves and not people.
Never mind. After the fighting stopped in 1818, Jackson formed a “military commission” to try two Brits who were alleged to have aided the Seminoles, not a criminal act under Spanish rule. His ad hoc commission recommended they be whipped and imprisoned. Jackson, a slave owner, dismissed 50 lashes (a brutal punishment) and a year at hard labor as too lenient. He hanged one man from the yardarm of his own ship, and had the other shot by firing squad.
Those are the values that peek through the administration’s thinking and its overt defense of the use of that precedent. It is acknowledging that it is engaged in illegal wars and is using illegal methods to pursue them. That’s the important take away.
Also Congress condemned those trials as both lacking jurisdiction and not giving the accused their rights. Congress passed an act to the effect disapproving those trials. If the Obama administration is going to cite a non-binding Senate resolution about the UN as proof Obama was authorized to go to war with Libya, the Obama administration should also cite the Congressional condemnation of Jackson’s illegal trial and execution of those British citizens.
In addition to my suspicion that they waited until Kris was gone to use this precedent, I think they also would not have made it had Zinn been alive. No one could better explain to a mainstream audience how galling this is.
That said, you did a damn good job worthy of Zinn.
Indeed.
And thanks for the link to the Zinn article, EofH. I might use that for an upcoming course.
For a refreshing take on American history from the perspective of those traditionally called its “losers” – whether in economic or military wars, and be they the working man and woman, the slave, the Indian, the immigrant – it would be hard to beat Howard Zinn. A good place to start is his People’s History of the United States.
He taught and advocated for history from a non-traditional perspective and was often ostracized for it. Academics use “advocate” as an epithet, implying Greenwaldian versions of unSerious or lacking in objectivity. Zinn was unabashedly revisionist. The wealthy, he said, like Rockefeller and Carnegie, had entire universities to write their histories and support their legacies. The men who worked their mines, factories and oil fields barely had shirts on their backs.
Zinn chronicled the lives of the ordinary, the thousands who built the pyramids, not the lone figure interred under them, in a very unordinary way.
How about Bill Moyers?
Bill Moyers Eyes a Possible Return to PBS – NYT March 31, 2011
(Yay!!)
“After the fighting stopped in 1818, Jackson formed a “military commission” to try two Brits who were alleged to have aided the Seminoles, not a criminal act under Spanish rule.”
Those Brits were Alexander Arbuthnot, a 71-yo Scottish trader and Robert Ambrister, a 30-yo trader from Nassau. Jackson had them appear before a court-martial crew of petty officers that he assembled on the spot there at St. Marks. They tried, but had difficulty finding overwhelming evidence Ambrister was guilty, though they recommended he be shot, then returned an hour later and recommended instead that he receive the 50 lashes. Jackson struck through their second recommendation and wrote “Approved” under the first. They found evidence that Arbuthnot was innocent, but went ahead and found him guilty anyway, and recommended he be hanged. Jackson approved of that finding. Early the next morning, Jackson and his men rode off, leaving one detachment of troops to carry out the sentences.
My reference is an old book that, remarkably, is still in print. A briefer account is here.
Can we look to Cherokees too? Like, that’s what I think of when you bring up Andrew Jackson and Indian tribes and legal decisions — the Trail of Tears. Earlier the Cherokees had won in the Supreme Court and Jackson is reputed to have said “John Marshall has made his decision, now let him enforce it!”
A quick wiki swipe:
Then he faked a treaty, extended and pretended the Cherokees (so HAMP) in court, and then his successor Van Buren forcibly removed them. 4,000 died.
Certainly a suitable precedent on the list of presidential-military national shames. Worth revisiting.
Yes, I was thinking of the Trail of Tears, too, but decided that was too lengthy to get into. The Howard Zinn Project has a 10 page teaching guide for it, available here (free, requires registration):
A 2006 docudrama shown at a film festival in Denver explored the lives of the Cherokees after they traveled their 1000 miles trail of tears:
Those numbers understate the tragedy; they don’t deal with the loss of life beforehand, a subject Zinn’s People’s History covers. There’s an extensive literature on the Trail, itself only an accessible milestone on a centuries’ long drama that continues today. In addition to the summaries available at the Howard Zinn Project and in his A People’s History of the United States, see books by Tracy Barrett, Katie Marsico, John P. Bowes, Theda Perdue, and Vicki Rozema.
Andrew Jackson made Indian Removal his life’s work, as he did supporting slavery. Not coincidentally, the Cherokee and other tribes were made to walk the Trail of Tears, all 1000 miles of it, during Jackson’s presidency. It was only one aspect of his aggressive enforcement of the Indian Removal Act.
Andrew Jackson signed the Indian Removal Act on May 26, 1830, during the second year of his presidency. That act “authorized” the forcible removal of the Cherokee and other tribes from their lands (emphasis added).
A generous estimate of the compensation paid to Indian tribes for those 25 million acres puts it at about a quarter of the market rate for similar lands. Such a deal.
Compare the 1000 mile Trail of Tears to a well-known march that took place 100 or so years later. In 1942, when the Philippines fell to the Japanese, roughly 75,000 Filipino and American POW’s were sent on what was described as the Bataan Death March. The march was 60 miles long and took about a week.
This description of the Bataan march parallels the attitudes and treatment meted out a hundred years earlier in the several removals of Indian tribes from the American South to the Oklahoma territory (citations omitted):
Those were men of military age, some fit, some exhausted and sick. Indian removal involved whole families and took place over decades, involving water and land routes. Marches lasted months. The Trail of Tears refers only to the 1838 relocation of the Cherokees. Estimates for the period 1830-1845 vary, but hover between 1-in-4 and 1-in-3.
The Bataan Death March was considered a war crime. The Japanese general responsible for it was tried, convicted and executed in 1946.
I knew I asked the right person. Thank you so much.
The thing that put it tops in my mind was that was when a President told the Supreme Court to fuck off. I don’t know much about history, but that’s something I remember.
So much to read here, I’ll try to get to it. Thanks to everyone, especially eoh, fatster and powwow
These disparities are ingrained in American law, I thought we learned this from the crack cocaine/powdered cocaine sentencing laws.
The FAS writes about the Seminole military tribunals here:
http://www.fas.org/irp/crs/RL32458.pdf
So does the Obama administration consider arabs “savages,” which was the legal justification given then?
From the Library of Congress research article you cite, Congress’ reviewed Jackson’s use of a military commission to try two British subjects – Arbuthnot and Ambrister – concerning their behavior in Spanish Florida, for which Jackson had them executed following conviction by his hand-picked tribunal (emphasis added, citations omitted):
That’s the precedent that Mr. Obama wants cited and defended in his campaign to use military commissions to try a handful of (newsworthy) alleged terrorists?
Does Mr. Obama imagine that his critics here and abroad, especially among the peoples most directly affected by his wars in North Africa and the Middle East, are as ignorant of history and the law as he hopes are his own people?
The congressional committee’s review concluded that Jackson’s tribunal lacked jurisdiction over the crimes the men were accused of, that its evidentiary procedures were flawed, and that Jackson’s overruling of the tribunal and imposing the death sentence was flawed. It disapproved of both the trials and the executions.
Proving that Dick Cheney’s performance during the congressional investigations of Reagan’s Iran-Contra Affair was not original, a
The full House, then as now beholden to the sources of wealth (eg, slavery, acquiring Indian lands) that took them to high office, after a month of debate, ultimately rejected the committee’s findings and approved of both the trials and executions.
Congress, though, wasn’t finished with Jackson. A select Senate committee reviewed his conduct. It concluded Jackson’s executions were “unnecessary”
Jackson’s supporters persuaded the Senate to adjourn without acting on the committee’s report.
Jackson had waged and quickly won his war against the Seminoles in the sort of military campaigns he made his life’s work. His military commission, sitting in Florida after hostilities were over had all the leisure it wanted to consider the facts and the law. This was no hurried justice; it was a hurried lack of justice.
Many thanks for the citation. The Library of Congress report’s analysis of the precedential value of Jackson’s 1818 military tribunal’s decision is chilling. Especially so is the executive power-supporting distinction cited by William Birkhimer. No doubt, such reasoning is why Mr. Obama’s lawyers chose to resurrect so volatile a 200 year-old precedent (emphasis added):
Birkhimer was writing at the dawn of the 20th century. America’s destiny had been made manifest: it finally occupied all the land from sea to sea. Buffalo Bill Cody was no longer an Indian scout; he ran a circus. America needed to look elsewhere to expand, and it had just acquired the Philippines and parts of Cuba from Spain. Birkhimer was writing at the dawn of the American overseas empire, and it needed precedents it could count on, just like Mr. Obama.
“Birkhimer’s analysis would allow generals to execute civilians without trial or to dispense with the fact-finding and judgment that results from trial proceedings”
And Obama is doing that now too
That’s certainly the consequence of Mr. Obama’s assertion that he can impose sentences of indefinite detention on defendants who win a verdict of “innocent”. What’s the rule of law for if not to use as the president’s personal pinata?
I watched the republican History channels show on O a couple months ago. They said the reason he didn’t/wasn’t fullfilling his campaign promises was because of “the Office” of the Prez. That once you get there you find you cannot do what you promised. While watching the republicans talking I felt like O was either being blackmailed or the office that has the power is the pentagon’s. They also don’t like O having a Blackberry. People are creatures of habit and O has just changed too much to say it’s campaign money.
Another example of what Obama administration means by terrorist: Luis Posada Carriles. Why are they letting this admitted terrorist live in Miami? Why don’t they extradite him to Venezuela, which has been requesting extradition for a long time? Blowing up airplanes is okay with Obama as long as it’s Cubans who die.
Do something to Posada Carilles? Just a few days ago they didn’t do anything in TX.
The deeper issue is, of course, that it is a war crime — in the sense of a grave breach of Protocol I by violating Article 75 — to charge and convict a detainee of armed conflict for war crimes or even ordinary crimes that were not crimes at the time the detainee was detained. The Pentagon is working overtime to justify charging people detained earlier than 2006 with a war crime created by Congressional statute in 2006.
Since Hillary Clinton has just proclaimed that the U.S. will abide by Article 75 as customary international humanitarian law, the landscape is perhaps a bit changed.
Surely, lawyers working for Barack Obama could find less volatile precedents for their insistence that military-controlled tribunals are the only safe, secure means of establishing the guilt or innocence [sic] of a handful of newsworthy alleged terrorists. Or maybe not.
An interesting sidebar about the Cherokee that would have appalled their white southern neighbors is this: they had no bar against intermarriage with whites and African Americans. That was a felony in the ante-bellum and post-Reconstruction South. Civilized white folk are still struggling with it.
And then there is this controversy.
Thanks, EOH, for covering the Cherokee, too. A ggggrandmother perished on the Trail of Tears. Her sister survived, and fled OK, returning as near to her ancestral home in northern GA as she could. She lived in a northern AL county adjacent to GA as she dared not cross that dotted line else she be arrested and sent back to OK.
Apparently, the Indian Removal Act as implemented left in place native Americans living with permission on private lands.
The principal removals were from lands “owned” collectively by the tribe. (Differences in understanding between ownership and stewardship we’ll leave for another time.) That, of course, covered the vast bulk of the Indian population and of those 25+ million acres – a huge swath of the South – that white settlers and land speculators like Jackson and his supporters wanted access to.
GA repealed their anti-American Indian laws in 1980. Imagine that! This article also discusses the Creeks to some extent. Jackson’s campaign against them, chasing them mercilessly into AL, was not altogether successful, though. The Creeks were clever, knowing full well how to hide in the thickets and swamps for however long it took, and they did.
Nice to think that the Creeks could best Jackson at his own game
Thanks, thatvisionthing. How come you and I tend to end up here in epu-land, anyway?
Two of my (white) Southern families each took in a wounded Creek warrior in the 1830s-40s, kept them hidden until things settled down and then sheltered them for the duration of their lives. They were a vivid part of the oral traditions of the two families. Hence, my passion about these topics.
Jackson almost got his, or so it was said in a popular story of the time (which I can’t verify it, so be forewarned). Supposedly, President Monroe’s Secretary of War John C. Calhoun suggested hanging Jackson in order to appease both England and Spain. The tables got turned later, however, as attested by Jackson himself who famously said he had “two regrets: I didn’t shoot Henry Clay and I didn’t hang John C. Calhoun.” (That quote is contained in this playful, disrespectful account.)
Interestingly, the quarrel with Calhoun was over–wait for it–states’ rights! Thus, some efforts underway today to undermine the Affordable Care Act stem directly from Calhoun.
BTW, my apologies for beleaguering you with this, and my thanks for your kind interest.
I’d like to thank everyone for this enlightening discussion, especially ew and earlofhunitingon. I’m very sorry I missed it in real time. And thanks also to spainshinquisition, for the CRS report, written by Louis Fisher. I had begun looking for it, but got pulled away.
It’s almost as if the Executive Branch reads Louis Fisher, and does exactly the opposite of what his work suggests is the right thing to do.
We certainly seem to be in Andrew Jackson “The Supreme Court has made its decision, now let it enforce it!” territory again these days, given the brazen abuses of recent occupants of the presidency. Although perhaps “The Supreme Court won’t hear the cases, so we’re free to ignore Constitutional limits on our power!” is closer to the mark [see, for example, the latest Constitution-bypassing OLC opinion on Obama’s air war against Libya].
I’ve added at length below to earlofhuntingdon’s verbatim Congressional statements @ 38 & 39, to expand upon the incomplete references – which purport to reflect the profound series of events triggered by General Jackson’s “Seminole War” – that are contained in the government’s highlighted pre-oral argument brief to the CMCR. [That March 11th government brief, in defense of Ali Al Bahlul’s military commission “war crime” conviction, was in fact produced, at the direction of the CMCR, about one week after David Kris had left the DOJ, in line with emptywheel’s supposition above (although I don’t know whether, or to what extent, the DOJ’s National Security Division has input into these DOD/Office of Military Commissions submissions in the CMCR appellate process).]
The 3/11 Al Bahlul brief (and, I assume, a parallel government brief in Hamdan), with the alleged Seminole War precedent it cites, was generated in response to this January request from the CMCR for further briefing:
Those are the two primary questions that were at issue in the oral arguments I linked to in Comment 5 above. [For a broader, more comprehensive discussion of the principles involved, the original January, 2010 CMCR oral argument in Hamdan may be the best place to start, especially for those new to the subject.] Question II is what seems to have prompted the government to unearth General Jackson’s 1818 actions in Florida, in order to try to transform “material support for terrorism” into an “aiding the enemy” war crime-by-another-name (though the 2006 MCA claims both as war crimes, yet only the former was charged).
But to get back to 1818 and 1819, and the parallels of the abuses of the “Seminole war” to Obama’s unauthorized war against Libya – particularly the untenable situation in which Congress finds itself when the Executive Branch commits offensive acts of war against a vastly-inferior opponent without permission from Congress, and refuses to admit it abused its power. [That is, when the role of Congress is inverted from a hurdle to presidential war-making in the absence of formal Congressional action, to a body forced to act, and to clear high hurdles, to stop presidential action unilaterally commenced.]
First of all, the government’s brief tries to pretend that “it is not even clear at this juncture whether the [1818] military tribunal that tried them [Arbuthnot and Ambrister] was a court-martial or military commission,” by citing for the latter proposition (which helps their argument) to a 1914 source. However, the contemporaneous accounts by Members of Congress who examined General Jackson’s actions – as part of the “earthquake” those actions caused in Congress – never waiver in calling it a “court martial.”
As indicated above, a House committee and a separate Senate committee were both charged with examining Jackson’s actions against the Seminoles in Florida.
The House committee was a select committee on military affairs chosen for this purpose on November 18, 1818, and was composed of Richard M. Johnson of Kentucky, Philip Reed of Maryland, Thomas M. Nelson of Virginia, Ebenezer Huntington of Connecticut, Joshua Gage of Massachusetts, James Stewart of North Carolina, and George Peter of Maryland.
The Senate committee was also a select committee (contrary to the government’s brief), of five, chosen on December 18, 1818: Senators Abner LaCock of Pennsylvania, John Henry Eaton of Tennessee, John Forsyth of Georgia, Rufus King of New York, and James Burrill, Jr. of Rhode Island (only Senator LaCock was also a member of the Senate’s standing Committee on Military Affairs).
The House committee report is shorter, with a narrower focus, than the Senate committee report. In the House there was also a form of minority report issued by Representative Richard M. Johnson of Kentucky, which is much longer than the committee-adopted report, unabashedly pro-Jackson, and written in a tone all too familiar to those exposed to the many demagogues among today’s politicians: “Thus gloriously terminated the Seminole war, a war reluctantly entered into, but urged by dire necessity, to protect from the tomahawk and scalping-knife of the most ruthless savages our peaceful frontier settlers, who, from decrepit age to helpless infancy, for more than two years had been exposed to their cruelties – a war in which our citizens and soldiers, with their usual fortitude and valor under their persevering and determined commander,” [etc., etc.]
Yet even Rep. Johnson’s Jackson-friendly version of events calls the tribunal in question a “court martial” in no uncertain terms: “General Jackson ordered him [Alexander Arbuthnot] to be tried by a court martial, consisting of thirteen respectable officers, with Major General Gaines president. […] It being well known that he [Robert C. Ambrister] had been a leader and commander of the hostile Indians and fugitive slaves, General Jackson also directed him to be tried by the same court martial.“
Both the House and the Senate committee reports are admittedly unwelcome duties for their authors, given Jackson’s earlier contributions to the nation. But, commendably, neither committee pulls its punches.
The House select committee report, issued on Tuesday, January 12, 1819 [see Page 515 of the Annals of Congress for the Second House Session in the 15th Congress], quotes part of a Jackson 4-26-1818 general order for “a special court martial”:
The Senate select committee report, issued on Wednesday, February 24, 1819 [see Page 255 of the Annals of Congress for the Senate’s Second Session in the 15th Congress] by the five-member committee (a report upon which apparently no further debate ensued before the Second Session closed on March 3rd) elaborated:
The House report, unlike the Senate report, ended with this resolution:
That resolution, and others proposed in response to the House committee report, kicked off a remarkably lengthy, intense debate in the House that lasted for about three weeks, which ended with the House declining to adopt the committee resolution of disapproval, or any further formal censure of General Jackson, as noted in the government brief.
Here’s how Representative Thomas W. Cobb of Georgia opened the House debate on Monday, January 18, 1819 [a debate that didn’t conclude until February 8th; see Page 583 and subsequent pages of the 2nd House Session of the 15th Congress], as reported at the time, in a distinct echo of Senator Rand Paul’s honorable exhortations to his colleagues to end their deplorable silence in the face of the usurpation of the Senate’s war powers:
Finally, because John Quincy Adams’s name was speciously invoked to support the government’s self-serving, faithless interpretation of the law of nations (and its subset law of war) by Francis Gilligan (who called him “James Quincy Adams” in the 3/17 Hamdan oral argument, while citing a letter Secretary of State Adams wrote to Spain about the Seminole war court-martial), I give Adams the last word here, to demonstrate how a United States Senator of integrity once upon a time went about honoring his oath of office and the limits of his Constitutional power to “define” the law of nations:
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Congressman Johnson of Kentucky appears to have been quite fond of Gen. Jackson and his decades of making war against American Indians. Haling from Kentucky, he would have been a considerable potential beneficiary of the Indian wars and of the later, formalized dislocation under Jackson’s Indian Removal Act. The Act institutionalized longstanding practices; Mr. Obama, on the other hand, is attempting to institutionalize more shortlived practices adopted by CheneyBush.
“Purchases” of Indian lands expropriated under the Act at roughly 25% of their value, assuming they were paid for (the list of unpaid Indian claims is longer than the Bible), leaves on the table a margin of 300%. Under the Act, 25+ million acres of tribal lands were nationalized by the USG for the benefit of its white constituents.
(Nationalizing of private property is one of the Right’s longstanding grievances against governments generally, socialist and communist governments in particular. See, Cuba, Russia, the practice of eminent domain here.)
It’s useful to note that Arbuthnot and Ambrister were both English traders, one was a former Marine. After his campaigns in the War of1812, Gen. Jackson appears to have been as well-disposed to the English as he was to native Americans. Characterizing Jackson’s 1819-19 tribunal as a court martial would not favor Mr. Obama’s arguments. His tribunals offer nothing like the established rights and procedures available under the modern UCMJ.
Ambrister’s father had settled in South Carolina, but had to flee once the Revolutionary War was over as he had been a Loyalist. If Jackson knew that, and he may well have known it, I’m sure that only added fuel to his highly-flammable temper.
That’s considered illegal today. Attorney General Ashcroft’s FBI committed it in its frequent abuse of material witness warrants. Those allow the detention of persons solely to ensure their appearance and testimony at criminal proceedings against others. It also appears to be one form of abuse practiced against Bradley Manning, insofar as the government appears determined to use illegal means to secure his testimony against Julian Assange and WikiLeaks.
Gen. Jackson’s ego, and apparently his greed and hatred of Indians, was bigger than the continental United States.