This Is Your Social Safety Net on DOGE

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Elon Musk has repeatedly said government functions should be privatized.

You already know how that works out for the U.S., because it’s one of the biggest single differences between the cost of living in other first world countries and the U.S.

It’s also one of the biggest differences in life expectancy between other first world countries and the U.S.

Healthcare in the EU, for example, costs much less than it does in the U.S., and outcomes measured in life expectancy are far better.

But healthcare in the EU is not fully privatized; though not identical across all EU members, it’s based on universal access and publicly subsidized.

Ditto for Canada and Greenland, the countries Trump wants to seize. Better that they seize us and bring their healthcare systems with them.

But this month has also demonstrated the risk of taking Elon Musk seriously when it comes to privatization.

Imagine this is our social security system:

Screenshot of the Dow Jones, S&P 500, and Nasdaq composite indexes mid-day Friday, April 11, 2025 via Google Finance.
 

Who’s not going to get their checks if the bottom drops out even further? Why should Americans who’ve paid into Social Security over a lifetime of work have to worry about additional risk to their futures because unelected and unconstitutionally appointed Musk believes exposure to the market is what Americans need?

It’s bad enough that Americans’ cost of daily living expenses is further exposed to market risks because of Trump’s misbegotten, ill-considered tariffs. Musk believes Americans’ retirement years should be even more deeply risky.

It makes zero sense to listen to a man who has no empathy for others’ concerns, who has no experience dealing with a limited income and trying to make ends meet. He doesn’t have adequate background let alone personal history to make such judgments about what will work best for the American people; he doesn’t even view his children’s health as personal obligations (ex. recent public pleas by two of his children’s mothers for assistance with healthcare matters).

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What really takes the cake is the silence of the business world.

Of course the financial industry is silently slavering over the chance to get their grubby mitts on our Social Security, and they’re staying quiet about it because they know they dare not set off the American public.

But Jeff Bezos’ Amazon-derived fortune was made in no small part off the subsidy that the U.S. Postal Service has been to American business.

USPS is the fallback for shipping nearly anything nearly anywhere in the U.S.; Bezos didn’t have to worry about whether his books would sell in North Utter Remote, Outer Territory USA. There was a post office nearby where purchasers could pick up their orders if they couldn’t be delivered to their door by USPS carriers on foot.

Bezos didn’t have to negotiate that. Didn’t have to buy sorter equipment, trucks, hire and train personnel, build sorting facilities, so on. All of that was on our dime when it wasn’t paid for by postage, until Amazon was successful enough to consider reducing shipping and handling costs further with their own trucks.

Furthermore, Bezos knew what the competitive rate for shipping a majority of Amazon’s products would be based on USPS rates – rates set by USPS bidding out trucking and equipment purchases. When Amazon started buying its own trucks, Amazon knew its costs had to be no more than USPS’ costs to deliver.

In short, our tax dollars and our volume of postage helped underwrite Jeff Bezos’ billions.

And he’s just going to sit there smug and mum, enjoying his irrational wealth while Musk shoots off his mouth about privatizing government.

Because Bezos will probably ensure the next billions he makes off our backs is from Amazon Postal Service.

Can’t begin to imagine how much our health care will cost once Amazon has the contract both for postal delivery of medications and health care insurance.

You can only imagine when Musk takes his chainsaw to Amtrak what will happen next: he’ll claim only his vaporware Hyperloop is the alternative, and American people should pay him billions to implement it instead of a long-proven passenger rail system.

Privatization will not yield better outcomes for the American people and you already know that. Don’t wait until Musk uses DOGE to shut off funds to the USPS; he’s already targeted USPS personnel. Contact your representative and senators and insist that government should NOT be privatized.

Not our Social Security, not our mail delivery, not a single government service which could end up becoming a pricey-to-us privatized profit center for billionaires.

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  1. Rayne says:

    Don’t forget to call your senators and ask them to vote against the SAVE Act.

    Congressional switchboard : (202) 224-3121 or use Resist.bot.

    Recruit others to make calls to their senators, too.

  3. P J Evans says:

    Guys (and it’s almost always guys) who think government should be run like a business should first have to *successfully* run a [large] business for four years, and then take a test to see whether they even understand that government is about *services*, not profit-making.
    President Musk doesn’t meet either qualification. Nor do the other “privatize everything” guys.

    • Swamp Thing says:

      In this same vein, as someone who lives pretty close to Cancer Alley in Louisiana, I think every CEO who proposes a chemical plant along the Mississippi River should be required to move their family within a mile of that plant.

  4. Matt Foley says:

    His doctor says he’s current on all vaccinations. No word from RFK.

    He’s cutting NOAA because it’s “not aligned with his agenda and the will of the people.” He recently said again that the rising ocean will create more land. And his idiot donors laughed. Meanwhile, NJ shore towns are trying to figure how to deal with the ocean’s expected rise of 2 to 5 feet by the year 2100.

    Communities at risk of a potentially catastrophic flood include:

    Nearly all residents of Wildwood (95%) and North Wildwood (94%).

    29,000 people in Atlantic City.

    6,578 residents of Camden.

    4,389 Philadelphia residents.

    Camden, Philly, and even Burlington City share coasts along the tidal Delaware River, which is subject to storm surge.

    By 2050, floods are projected to occur 10 times more often than they do today as rising seas shove tides and storm surges higher and further inland.

    https://www.inquirer.com/real-estate/new-jersey-shore-severe-coastal-flood-study-20250409.html

    • Rayne says:

      Slow down, Matt. When you write “his doctor,” who are you referring to? This post made specific references to Musk and Bezos, not Trump.

      As for NOAA and NWS — the American public doesn’t realize most commercial services rely on data subsidized by taxpayers provided through NOAA and NWS. Now they’re going to be expected to pay even more for near-term and long-term forecasting from corporations.

      And where is the profit in long-term forecasting? The average American won’t pay out of pocket for projections in 2050.

  5. allan_in_upstate says:

    One of the supposed advantages of the U.S. healthcare system, touted by opponents of single-payer or even strengthening regulation, is not having long waits for scans, tests and procedures. But recent scheduling experiences I’m familiar with have been bad, many months out. The world’s greatest Potemkin Village healthcare.

    • Joe Orton says:

      Well my experience is that an appt for tests, mri, X-ray, scans, etc gets booked in very soon. It takes a bit to get into see a specialist if they are an excellent doctor (because of demand for that doctor’s time). I live in a highly populated county that has lots of resources. But if you live in a place that has few testing, mri, etc centers then you will wait for an appt.

      • Rayne says:

        You will wait for an appointment in many places regardless of population, depending more on the state’s policies.

        My folks had to wait 3-5 months to get appointments in Florida because there simply aren’t enough providers and it’s gotten worse over time. Specialization matters, too; not good trying to find a neuro who specializes in dementia care, for example. Could get a neuro for brain injuries but not elder care with dementia/ALZ, which seems really, REALLY stupid in Retiree Central like Florida.

        And if the patient doesn’t have an intelligent advocate, they may be dead years earlier. One of my parents would already be dead as just one example.

        • Peterr says:

          And then there is the wait — a much longer wait in the US than elsewhere — for the private insurers to reluctantly agree that you do indeed need the treatment your physician has recommended.

  6. harpie says:

    Every single assault that any TRUMP Minion perpetrates on US must ultimately be
    laid at the feet of TRUMP himself and The Coalition that engineered his “election”,
    including Leonard Leo, Harlan Crowe et al and their Roberts Courtesans.

  7. Bob Roundhead says:

    It’s is not privatization. It is profitization.
    Seize the word Privatization. For example, data mining our government eliminates your ability to be a private citizen. Regulate data mining. Call it Privatization.

    • Rayne says:

      It’s also enshittification, to use Cory Doctorow’s term of art, because invariably once a service has been commodified and monetized, it’s shittier than it was when it was a “free” (read: publicly-funded) service.

      • Bob Roundhead says:

        Yes. You are right.
        Kurt Vonnegut was also correct when he said that cursing gives others the right to ignore you. I don’t like it, I curse like a drunk sailor, but it is true.
        I believe the simple way of putting it is this, when you are trying to help a child or parent get medical care, who do you think will help you, a insurance company that makes money by telling you your claim is denied, or Medicare/Medicaide that is run for the common good without profit? I am sure someone can say it more artfully.

        • Rayne says:

          Been killing Copilot every time it shows up on my Win11 laptop. Annoying that it popped up again after a Patch Tuesday.

          I’m migrating to ChromeOS and a Linux distro with a couple older machines, probably Ubuntu, so I can get away from MSFT altogether. I wish Google would have made Android for laptops instead of ChromeOS because I’d already have migrated to Android.

    • Bob Roundhead says:

      Bunch of bad information in the piece with the former head of social security. First, the baby boomer population bubble was dealt with for the most part under Reagan. The tax was doubled to deal with the issue. It continues to be an issue because the cap was not raised for years on end to keep up with the programs solvency. Also, Americans are not living much longer on average. In 1933, tremendous numbers of children were dying from diseases which we now vaccinate against. The mortality rate for mothers and children were both far greater. These numbers measurably lowered the number of years people lived “on average”. Life expectancy has actually been declining for years after peaking in the early 90’s. A better determining factor effecting life expectancy is socio economic status.
      I do appreciate the coverage, but for me, the reporting is lazy and incomplete.

  9. RitaRita says:

    Privatization of government services is only part of the grand scheme. The other part is turning the labor force into company slaves.

    Trump granted exemptions for Chinese electronics out of necessity. But Tim Cook and others have noted that we can’t begin to compete with China, in part, because they have a skilled work force that we do not (yet) have. In reality, in the tech sector, what China has is a trained work force that is paid very little, works very hard and doesn’t complain.

    I believe it was either Scott Bessent or Howard Lutnick who said this week that the fired federal employees could learn how to make chips like the Chinese workers. And Trump admitted that undocumented farm workers could be allowed to go back into the country to work if their employers wrote letters of recommendation.

    Their pipe dream is forced labor at low wages in order to re-industrialize the country.

    • Rayne says:

      As someone in my social media feed said, welcome to Pol Pot’s Khmer Rouge where reeducation is demanded.

      • RitaRita says:

        I was thinking more like Mao Tse Tungs’s Cultural Revolution. The college educated Elites need to be sent to work in the fields in North Dakota.

    • Gacyclist says:

      And they fully intend AI to control everything. It’s why they “love the poorly educated”. Too dim to know they’re being played.

    • P J Evans says:

      My first two jobs were building LED calculator displays by hand. We were paid about 30% over minimum wage at the time. It was trained labor, done by women, and not everyone could do it – skill is also involved.

      Tim Cook and the other CEOs should talk to the retirees at their companies, because they’d learn a lot about How It Was In The Beginning. It took decades to get to where they are now, and they’ve forgotten that part.

  10. Gacyclist says:

    It mystifies me why magas believe rule by oligarchs is a good thing.

    Look no further than the hellscape musk turned twitter into.

    • Rayne says:

      Many of today’s MAGAs were conditioned by a combination of cultural influences: The Apprentice, a scripted program which made viewers believe Trump was a competent billionaire business owner; prosperity theology, which tells followers that financial success is a mark of godliness; and the questionable success of techbros during the run-up to and the survivors after the 1990s dot com bomb. Doesn’t help, either, that U.S. B-schools are really institutions of indoctrination into capitalism rather than providing well-rounded education into a variety of economic systems and how government and businesses operate within them.

      • Gacyclist says:

        Good point about “reality” tv, creating a very distorted of trump and his business prowess like his embrace of UFC, it’s all performative. He’s such a genius and yet his casinos went bankrupt, along with many more failures.

        • Rayne says:

          I think even the casino “failures” weren’t. They were rolled up operations, liquidated before their utility for money laundering became problematic. I suspect Trump moved his money laundering to other venues, mostly his golf resorts. Pure speculation on my part but it’s really odd how after all this time and so many criminal investigations we’ve never gotten a peak at the resorts’ books.

        • xyxyxyxy says:

          re-Rayne April 13, 2025 8:09 pm
          re casino “failures” weren’t. Not only money laundering but possibly also tax loss writeoff fraud.
          Not only have we never gotten a peak at the resorts’ books but we’ve never seen all of his tax returns.
          What James got was probably only the tip of the iceberg.
          To refresh my memory as I was going to add stuff about his father, I looked up his sister in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maryanne_Trump_Barry (reliable?).
          There are some interesting items in area titled “Allegations of tax evasion” related to the family frauds.
          Also under area titled “U.S. Court of Appeals service” starting at “In a 2006 ruling, Abou Cham v. Attorney General, Barry was harshly critical of the conduct of a U.S. Immigration Court judge in a case involving a refugee from The Gambia….”
          Interesting as Donnie is all into immigration.
          Oh, and just above that paragraph, there’s this: In January 2006, Barry testified to support the appointment of fellow Third Circuit Judge Samuel Alito to the Supreme Court.

        • Termagant says:

          xyxyxyxy April 13, 2025 at 9:02 pm

          Re: Judge Maryanne Trump, I ran across this article a while ago (link broken): https[:]//lawsintexas[.]com/retired-judge-maryanne-trump-barrys-immunity-from-any-alleged-prosecution/

          The family that crimes together…

      • Matt Foley says:

        Grifters like Paula White call themselves “independent charismatics”. WTF kind of bullshit is that?

      • Rugger_9 says:

        Many of the MAGAs, especially in flyover country, only see what’s on their local media, and almost all of that is under RWNM control. No wonder then that their ability to think for themselves is on a par with North Koreans. It’s all they really know. The same concept applies to the ongoing efforts to privatize education, or at least force taxpayer money to support their madrassas. IIRC there was an odious video circulating many years ago of kids being forced to prostrate themselves before W in what was allegedly a Christian camp.

        Speaking of lying Pharisees, our current Ambassador to Israel (and former pastor IIRC) Mike Huckabee called Convict-1 / Krasnov a modern day Moses. On Passover. Without shame or looking around for a thunderbolt.

      • Frank Anon says:

        You’re so right about the B-Schools. They’re now structured like a 3-year episode of Shark Tank

  11. Nessnessess says:

    “Their pipe dream is forced labor at low wages in order to re-industrialize the country.”

    I see it the same way. Forced, low wage labor also aligns with their anti-abortion and repro rights positions. And along the same lines, I assume that deported individuals held in the El Salvador prison will be used for compelled labor, which lends a human trafficking and slave-trade dimension to their having been seized and transported there as a financial transaction between governments.

  12. gmokegmoke says:

    Trmp/Vance (Musk/Thiel) are running government like a business, a business that fires essential workers then hires them back when it realizes its mistake, then fires them again; a business that cancels all R&D in the middle of commercial trials and for some projects that have been going on for decades; a business that is run by vulture capitalists and Mafia capos who are breaking down an acquisition for profits and parts and doing a complete bust-out which will claim the insurance money when arson burns down the factories and offices.

    PS: An historical note, the owners of the Triangle Shirtwaist Company got more money from their insurance company for their losses from fire than they had to pay out to the victims and the victims’ families for their negligence. They were acquitted of all criminal responsibility and went back into the same business.

    • RitaRita says:

      Their business model is to focus on short term profits with no concern for the long term. Musk, Thiel, Vance come from the private equity sector where the idea is to dress up some financials and a business plan well enough to attract investors.

      Their concern for the business itself is minimal.

  13. Eschscholzia says:

    The zone is flooded. In addition to the social safety net components you identified, this administration is pushing for privatization of public lands, of scientific research, of K-12 education, and on and on.

    From what I can see, it’s all enshittification, it’s all grift. Privatization allows someone to skim off rent from all of these services; the current regime also wants to control who those someones will be.

    Burgum says Dept of Interior has ~$100 trillion in “assets”, so should generate $1T or more each year for the treasury. http://www.doi.gov/live click on the 3rd transcript icon scroll forward to ~33 minutes. But those assets are oil, coal, and hard rock minerals which don’t generate value like capital equipment, they get sold one time and removed from the asset sheet. And even selling $2T/yr of those assets wouldn’t generate $1T/yr for the treasury: the vast amount of the value goes to the oil & mining companies, who Burgum refers to as our “customers” later in the same speech. Privatization of National Parks will turn some into exclusive enclaves for the rich, others into Disney/Jellystone/Dollywood attractions extracting money from a different demographic. [A few minutes earlier in that speech he says we should burn oil & coal as fast as possible to fuel AI, because emissions have been addressed and all coal is clean, and in 60 years AI will be able to solve 1 degree of warming (his math is off by a factor of 3 or 4). Just after that, he says we should remove regulations under the endangered species act, and instead “innovate” with things like crispr for de-extinction, as if de-extinctioned species don’t need habitat. That speech was given to ~16K DOI employees. He either didn’t know his audience or was trying to chase them off.]

    Privatization of medical and scientific research means expensive research of broad value won’t happen. Only research where the value goes to paying customers will continue, so public health, treatments for non-rich people, and basic science for general scientific knowledge will dwindle to trickles. Snake oil is profitable; testing and regulation isn’t.

    Privatized K-12 education not only allows ideological slanting of the content, it also greatly increases the bias in who gets a good education. Some students are inexpensive to teach, so profitable to serve with education vouchers. Others who need non-generic or additional teaching methods won’t be profitable, and will be left behind. Advanced kids who have parents who can afford to augment vouchers will get enriched education; smart kids without those parental resources won’t. Rich parents will have even greater and easier opportunities than they already have to give their children huge advantages against other kids who are smarter and harder working, but chose the wrong parents.

    I apologize for the rant; I hope I added value by broadening the picture a bit.

    • earlofhuntingdon says:

      Governments are not businesses. Their primary purpose is to serve their citizens, not to generate revenue and profit. Their purpose is not to sell off assets, but to preserve most of them for future generations. Muir Woods, Yosemite, Yellowstone, the Grand Canyon are not wasting, under-utilized assets. That villainous perspective would be familiar to Native Americans, who saw their lands stripped bear to feed the maw of unrestrained capitalism.

      The same is true for colleges and universities, many of which have succumbed to the business-model approach demanded by the business bosses on their boards.

      • xyxyxyxy says:

        re-Governments are not businesses, on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2anuT1ob6Ng PBD (close to a magat, strong Donnie supporter) who daily pushes BS.
        He keeps saying have to cut over and over but at no time shows where there’s a problem that we need to cut.
        This is a small portion of the show with Pakman, he also did a recent show with Sam Seder.

      • dimmsdale says:

        I’ve had so many disillusioning conversations with otherwise well-intentioned people who’ve bought the “govt should be run as as a business” codswallop. I’ve had a little success explaining to them that all those federal employees they’ve been trained to think of as “dead wood” are actually “fairness police,” whose job it is to make sure that taxpayer money is spent fairly, according to laws congress passed. Dear god, though, it’s so angering how successful Reaganites and their successors have been at poisoning Americans’ minds against their own government. Sorry, preaching to the choir & all that.

  14. allan_in_upstate says:

    Dead Zone: Rural Hospitals and Patients Are Disconnected From Modern Care [KFF Health News]

    https://kffhealthnews.org/news/article/dead-zone-rural-hospitals-outdated-internet-disconnect-care-disparities/

    ” … The Greene County [AL] Health System, with only three doctors, has no intensive care unit or surgical services. The 20-bed hospital averages a few patients each night, many of them, like Walker, with chronic illnesses.

    Greene County residents are some of the sickest in the nation, ranking near the top for rates of stroke, obesity, and high blood pressure, …

    Residents in these “dead zone” counties tend to live sicker and die younger than people in the rest of the United States, according to KFF Health News’ analysis. They are places where systemic poverty and historical underinvestment are commonplace, including the remote West, Appalachia, and the rural South. …”

    Surely the Senators ‘representing’ Greene County, Tommy Tuberville and Katie Britt, will fiercely advocate
    for their constituents in the coming budget negotiations.

  15. LargeMoose says:

    …”But Jeff Bezos’ Amazon-derived fortune was made in no small part off the subsidy that the U.S. Postal Service has been to American business.”…

    Not to mention the many years that Amazon didn’t have to collect sales taxes, which gave them an unfair price advantage, boosting its popularity enormously, while depriving localities of needed income. See the chart from IETP:
    https://itep.org/a-visual-history-of-sales-tax-collection-at-amazon-com/

  16. xyxyxyxy says:

    Another reason Amazon business took off is because when they started operating, they wouldn’t collect sales tax. This made their products look cheaper when compared to brick and mortar stores. They were able to “convince” many states’ pols to just put off legislation to have them collect sales tax. Of course states lost sales tax revenue during this period.
    Another story of Amazon, a few years ago Amazon wanted to build a second HQ in North America. Instead of doing the research of suitability, etc., they had municipalities spend moocho dollars to provide Amazon stats and beg Amazon, even though it seemed almost everybody knew Amazon was building this HQ in the DC area. These stats provided Amazon a wealth of free data for their businesses.
    And finally a story about SEPTA, Philadelphia region’s transit provider providing about 750,000 rides a day, down from pre-Covid of about one million rides per day and which this week announced service cutbacks starting this August and taking service down by almost half as of January 1, 2026 unless it gets Commonwealth funding, and Amazon.
    A few years ago SEPTA spent about $30 million on environmental and other impact studies on a large property on which the agency wanted to build a massive trolley barn for storage, maintenance, etc.. Once the studies were completed and SEPTA was ready to purchase the property, in walks Amazon and with some help from pols, especially Commonwealth Senator Anthony Williams, snatches the property. But after Amazon retrofit the property and with a post-Covid slowdown in shipments, Amazon decided not to open the warehouse. The warehouse may have opened in 2023 according to some articles. https://www.inquirer.com/business/amazon-packaging-center-southwest-philadelphia-20220927.html

  17. dadidoc1 says:

    Amazon had a multi year competitive advantage over bricks and mortar stores by being exempted from paying state and local sales taxes.

  18. xyxyxyxy says:

    Ray Dalio, the founder of the hedge fund Bridgewater Associates “[a]sked to detail his fears about a worst-case scenario, Dalio said he was worried about “the value of money, internal conflict that is not the normal democracy as we know it, an international conflict in a way that is highly disruptive to the world economy and could even be a military conflict….
    Dalio anticipated the 2008 financial crisis. Bridgewater warned in 2007 that “imbedded risks in the system are quite large” ahead of the eventual financial crisis. A few months later, it said it believed interest rates would rise “until there is a cracking of the financial system,” adding that “no one knows how this financial market contagion will play out.” Months later, the recession began.
    https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/investor-predicted-2008-financial-crisis-163740903.html

  19. xyxyxyxy says:

    “I looked the man in the eye. I found him to be very straightforward and trustworthy. I was able to get a sense of his soul.”:
    “Last Tuesday, the State Department upgraded El Salvador’s travel rating to a coveted Level 1, a long-sought goal of President Nayib Bukele that designates the country as one of the safest places to travel on the globe.
    On Monday, Bukele will receive another cherished American gold star: an Oval Office visit with President Donald Trump that will showcase El Salvador on the world stage and solidify his burgeoning alliance with the most powerful leader in the free world.”
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/world-coolest-dictator-gets-white-160842501.html

    • Gacyclist says:

      In the Abrego Garcia case, DOJ has said judge can’t compel the Executive Branch to deal with a foreign govt. I’m wondering if this will be the line in the sand and first time trump refuses to follow court order.

      • earlofhuntingdon says:

        Federal courts can tell the USG to enforce the terms of its contract, regarding disposition of detainees held in a foreign prison.

    • harpie says:

      Read this THREAD from CapitolHunters:

      https://bsky.app/profile/capitolhunters.bsky.social/post/3lmnoebbwgc25
      April 12, 2025 at 7:19 PM

      It’s not surprising that Trump defers to El Salvador while he threatens Greenland. It IS consistent. In both cases Trump is deferring to Silicon Valley neo-fascists. They dream of seizing Greenland, while El Salvador president Bukele is their guy. He’s a test case for a crypto-powered autocracy. 1/
      [THREAD]
      It’s not random that El Salvador’s Najib Bukele is now America’s gulag keeper – he’s been cultivated for the role. The MAGA elite were at his 2024 inauguration, including US lawmakers. And they aren’t being subtle about it: Eduardo Verastegui here copied Elon Musk and made a Nazi salute at CPAC. 6/ [PHOTO]

    • harpie says:

      And this THREAD from nycsouthpaw:
      https://bsky.app/profile/nycsouthpaw.bsky.social/post/3lmnilmcjkc2o
      April 12, 2025 at 5:38

      …which ends with:

      […] I wonder whether Abrego Garcia was delivered up to the Bukele regime in violation of a standing court order, not by mistake as the government has also pleaded, but as part of Bukele’s ugly compensation for the whole deal. Hasn’t Bukele effectively said as much? [screenshot of BUKELE’s 3/16/25 Xeet] […]

      This is the part of that statement he highlighted:

      On this occasion, the U.S. has also sent us 23 MS-13 members wanted by Salvadoran justice

      Remember, MS-13 was NOT mentioned in TRUMP’s Proclamations…
      only Tren de Aragua…and they’ve been trying to RetCon that ever since.

  20. xyxyxyxy says:

    It’s Monday, but in NY it’s Saturday Night Live.
    Inner City Press @innercitypress
    “OK – now at Sarah Palin v. NYT on day of jury selection.”
    “[…Sarah Palin is here, at plaintiff’s table with four lawyers. NYT seems to have 5 lawyers]”

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