If DOD’s Got a Problem with Wikileaked Names, They’ve Got a Problem w/NYT

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Before the Wikileaks document dump this afternoon, DOD and Murdoch were out with claims that the impending dump would put 300 Iraqis at significant risk of reprisal. As Wikileaks noted via Twitter, the article falsely claimed that Wikileaks would reveal actual names.

Besides, if DOD has a problem with leaks, they likely have a problem with the NYT, not Wikileaks.

I discovered this by looking at both outlets’ version of the same report, the July 31, 2009 report on the capture by Iranians of three American hikers.

Here’s the NYT version of the report (at least as it appeared at around 8PM tonight); here’s a PDF, or click on the image for a full image of the report. Here’s the version included in Wikileaks’ database (you probably need to sign up for a password to get it; to search for it, look for the document by time at 10:00 on 31 July 2009).

At first read, here’s the information that is redacted in the Wiki version but which appears in the NYT version (please tell me if you see something I’ve missed):

  • Indication–AMCIT–that the people kidnapped were American citizens
  • Information that appears to show injury/damage report: 0 INJ/DAM 2/1 07:112
  • The location of the kidnapping (NYT redacts part of this, but leaves Sulaymaniyah/Halabjah unredacted)
  • The identification of the captured people as 3 American citizens, where they were being taken (to the Iranian border)
  • Three reports of the coordinates where the hikers were taken (see Updates at 1630, 1631, 1715)
  • The acronym JPRC and the detail that the hikers had come to Iraq–though Wiki does reveal they intended to go rock climbing
  • Acronyms describing who would set up checkpoints
  • The name–“Meckfessel”–of the person who provides more info on the hikers–he was the fourth hiker (note, NYT puts this in quotes); but note that Wiki includes the following which NYT doesn’t include:

receive additional ___ from him and take him to a secure location for rotary transport to FOB Warrior.

  • That the hikers were hiking the “Ahmad al Waha (variant Waaha, Waah, etc.) Rock face outside of Sulaymaniyah (note, NYT does not close that quotation mark around Ahmad al Waha)
  • That “Pathfinder” was en route to refuel at FOB Warrior and that they would “remain” on standby
  • The bolded details in the update, “Colonel Latif of the 10th Pesh Murga brigade reports Iranians detained 3X AMCIT for being too close to the border”
  • The detail that “CJ3” was reporting that “President Barzani” was notified
  • Reference to Pathfinder and F16s and the detail that the AWT was 5 minutes out
  • Wiki then includes the following details from the pursuit that NYT redacted entirely:

UPDATE ___: Current situation

-2x ___ on station (controlled by /___ CAV)

-1x Warrior Alpha: en route (___ by MND-___)

CF have ___ manned and ___ unmanned ISR on station

CF en route ___ HQ to link up with ___.

-1x AWT on standby at FOB warrior

-1x ___ team on standby at FOB Warrior

  • The detail that OSINT was reporting that Iranians had reported picking up the Americans
  • More references to Meckfessel being picked up and, ultimately, delivered to Baghdad
  • MND-N’s confirmation they will “C2” the recovery operations
  • Wiki includes the following that NYT redacts entirely:

UPDATE 311815JUL09: ___ is at ___ HQ–made link up with , ___ x CF personnel on site, ___ to a secure location, ___ digit grid when ___ is designated

  • Details about taking Meckfessel to PB Andrea and from there, on a C12, to Baghdad
  • That a Captain, as well as a Sergeant First Class, would escort Meckfessel to Baghdad
  • Wiki includes these details that NYT leaves out:

UPDATE 311926JUL09: UH-___ are wheels down in PB , -___ launching ___

UPDATE ___: UH-___ are wheels up at PB ___ route ___ FOB Warrior

UPDATE 311952JUL09: fixed wing ___ at FOB Warrior

UPDATE 312000JUL09: UH-___ are on their final approach to FOB Warrior

  • NYT notes the C12 would arrive at 2040
  • More references to the C12 and Meckfessel, as well as the prepositions “to” Baghdad, as well as the times on several of the updates
  • The bolded details in the update, “Escorts will fly fixed wing at 1100 hrs on 1 AUG09 to FOB Warrior”
  • That IQATF would monitor for atmospherics
  • All references to Iran and the Kurds in the S2 assessment
  • The CCIR code, #5
  • The closing date, which the NYT lists as “311418JUL09”

So in general, Wiki provides a few operational details NYT does not, but NYT provides names (at least of Meckfessel), provides indication of who was captured, and describes the involvement of the Kurds and Iranians. And, of course, NYT provides multiple details of location, which is critical to its Michael Gordon narrative about Iran.

Now aside from this general observation–that Wiki is redacting far more information than the NYT, at least in this area which serves a particular narrative the NYT wants to tell–I’ve got a few more observations.

First, the thing that got me looking really closely at these differences is the closing date, which (as I noted) NYT lists as 1418 on July 31, 2009 and which Wiki redacts entirely. At least on first glance, that appears to suggest that this report was closed before the incident first began, which is recorded as 1600 on July 31, 2009. How could they close this report almost two hours before the hikers were supposed to have been captured in the first place? It has been suggested that the issue is one of time zones, but if that’s true, then the report would have had to have been closed in a location at least 10 hours behind the time zone noted in the update, because the final update is dated as 0015 on August 1. That might allow for this report being closed in MT. But other than that, your guess is as good as mine.

And while we’re talking about time, note that Wiki entered this in its database as being 10:00 on July 31, 2009–a full 8 hours before the report was supposed to have begun (I need to look at the other reports to see how the Wiki database time correlates with the report time.

Finally, the other thing this exercise reveals is the differing conventions that NYT and Wiki, at least, are using in redacting this information. To its credit, the NYT seems to be indicating not only each redaction, but how long the redaction is. But Wiki is using just 3 character underlines for all redactions, thereby obscuring even the parts of speech (note how the redaction of prepositions disguise some of the movements).  And the more important redactions are probably operational details that show how the military treated these reports; Wiki is redacting so much that these lack real context. (Really, imagine reading this and trying to piece together that it was a widely reporting capture?) This exercise shows how much the redactions Wiki did limit the value of the document dump.

In any case, there’s a whole lot more that these details–particularly taken together–show about the event; please use this post to discuss that. But in the meantime, what it does show is that if DOD has a problem with names revealed in this, it’s not Wikileaks they should complain about.

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  1. emptywheel says:

    Here’s some detail on timing from two versions of Meckfessel’s story.

    This version suggests the hikers left on the morning of the 30th; it doesn’t say what time he learned they had been captured.

    On the morning of the proposed trip, Meckfessel says, he felt unwell and stayed behind, telling the others to go on without him – he would catch up the next day.

    This version says they left the evening of the 30th, which explains why he hadn’t followed along yet and gives him time to claim they wandered Sulaymaniyah not being told they were headed to the Iranian border.

    On the evening of July 30th, Josh, Shane, and Sarah set out for Ahmed Awa with the plan to camp out. I stayed behind at our hotel because I was coming down with a cold, and wanted a night to recuperate.

    It says that they were captured sometime between 11:30 and 12:50.

  2. orionATL says:

    congratulations to wikileaks

    and to julian assange, its leader.

    they have persevered, in the face of a cheney-like psy ops propaganda campaign, in giving the american populace (and the world)

    information that our american federal government has hidden from us and would likely never have had divulged.

    bradley manning deserves a presidential medal for making this material available to wikileaks and thru them, to us.**

    the scope of the material may prove VERY important if, because of its many data points, it allows us to see patterns of effctiv/ineffective behavior by american officials and officers.

    **i have heard absolutely nothing about the fate of manning in his garrison.

    given what the u. s. military did to jose padilla,

    i would like to see and hear credible assurances that the american military is not torturing manning, perhaps not a psychologically strong individual,

    in the same way it “psychologically tortured”, e. g., using sensory deprivation, jose padilla.

  3. emptywheel says:

    You know, one thing about the differences in these redactions makes me wonder whether DOD helped the NYT redact, not only bc they wanted to keep the helpful bits in, but because they wanted to hide those operational details.

    Which would be telling, if they gave NYT the help they refused to give Wikipedia.

    • MadDog says:

      I would hazard a guess that the DOD at least informally or indirectly helped the NYT via the NYT’s DOD sources.

      And particularly that odious “War on Muslims Forever” shill Michael Gordon.

  4. MadDog says:

    We all probably could use some help with the acronymitis of militaryspeak in these reports, so here’s my contribution:

    …-1x Warrior Alpha: en route (___ by MND-___)…

    Warrior Alpha – I-GNAT ER/Sky Warrior Alpha is a multi-mission ISR (Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance) UAV

    …Reference to Pathfinder and F16s and the detail that the AWT was 5 minutes out…

    Pathfinder – A pathfinder is a paratrooper who is inserted or dropped into place in order to set up and operate drop zones, pickup zones, and helicopter landing sites for airborne operations, air resupply operations, or other air operations in support of the ground unit commander…

    AWT – Aerial Weapons Team which in turn translates to AH-64 Apache helicopters gunships.

    …MND-N’s confirmation they will “C2″ the recovery operations…

    C2 – Command and Control.

    …The detail that OSINT was reporting that Iranians had reported picking up the Americans…

    OSINT – Open Source Intelligence like radio, tv, newspapers, etc.

    The NYT article and their version of the report talks about CJSOTF -Combined Joint Special Operations Task Force, and that Special Operations forces would pickup Meckfessel and take him to Baghdad for questioning.

    …Details about taking Meckfessel to PB Andrea and from there, on a C12, to Baghdad…

    C12 – The C-12 Huron is the military designation for a series of twin-engine turboprop aircraft based on the Beechcraft Super King Air and Beechcraft 1900…

    …That IQATF would monitor for atmospherics…

    IQATF – Iraqi Advisor Task Force

    S2 – Military Intelligence

      • MadDog says:

        No bother. You can’t do everything yourself. *g*

        And though my eyes are insistent about closing, I thought I’d pass on an interesting search that needs exploring on WikiLeaks Diary Dig:

        OGA – Other Government Agencies; otherwise known as the CIA.

        I did some initial searching on OGA and found some interesting reports, but without the real database, the stuff on WikiLeaks Diary Dig leaves one with but scraps.

        I’d bet that in the next day or so, we’ll be able to get our own copy of the Iraq War Logs. I’m not messing with the bitTorrent downloads, but I’m sure someone will re-upload it to less hazardous file hosting sites.

        I’ll start fresh in the morning. I hope you plan on much more in the coming days!

  5. Garrett says:

    I’m pretty sure that Wikileaks has done large scale programmatic replacement. The replacement was crudely implemented. It results in a butchery:

    There are no Baathists in Iraq.

    There is no Qaeda in Iraq, and no Qaida. There is no Islamic State in Iraq.

    Actually, there is no Iraq. And there is no State.

    No Jihad. No Fedayeen. No Ansar, no Islam. No Badr, no Sadr, no Muqtada. No Mahdi.

    QJBR, AQI, and ISI all exist. In a way, this is a good thing: they need someone to fight. Since there are no Baathists.

    • bobschacht says:

      Your links are overloaded.
      I would appreciate some amplification of your cryptic remarks. I, for one, am skeptical about your statement about the lack of Baathists, who once were the dominant political party in Iraq. It is true that no one is going to stand up in public and say, “Hey, I’m a Baathist, whatcha gonna do about it?” But I would bet my prettiest penny that there is a Baathist underground, consisting of those most loyal to the old Baathist ideology and power structure.

      Bob in AZ

      • MadDog says:

        I think what Garrett was indicating was that when you use any of those words as “search terms” in Wikileaks Diary Dig, you don’t get any hits.

        I would point out to Garrett and anyone else searching via Wikileaks Diary Dig that last night in my searches, I thought I remember that I was finding that the search is “case sensitive”.

        For example, when I searched for OGA (defined as Other Government Agency or CIA in us peons’ terminology), I’d get 3 pages worth of hits. When I used the lower case oga, I’d get nothing.

        And yes, Wikileaks Diary Dig site seems to be very fragile or overloaded. I can’t get there either right now.

        And a couple of FWIW IMHO comments to Wikileaks if anyone from there should be perusing this post – both your Diary Dig and War Logs are pieces of shite! Poor design and lousy performance!

        Secondly, and perhaps more importantly – the fact that you Wikileaks would provide all those MSM outlets with the entire Iraq War Logs database, but not us average everyday netizens, speaks volumes about your increasing addiction to the media spotlight rather than to speaking truth to power.

        I prefer my facts unspun by the MSM and by not providing us the same access to raw Iraq War Logs data, you’ve destroyed one of the primary reasons behind the creation of Wikileaks – namely the power of the individual to hold their government (and MSM) overlords accountable.

        • MadDog says:

          Now that Wikileaks Diary Dig is back online I must eat my words about case sensitivity. No such critter.

          I guess it twas only my imagination last night. *g*

        • skdadl says:

          Secondly, and perhaps more importantly – the fact that you Wikileaks would provide all those MSM outlets with the entire Iraq War Logs database, but not us average everyday netizens, speaks volumes about your increasing addiction to the media spotlight rather than to speaking truth to power.

          I prefer my facts unspun by the MSM and by not providing us the same access to raw Iraq War Logs data, you’ve destroyed one of the primary reasons behind the creation of Wikileaks – namely the power of the individual to hold their government (and MSM) overlords accountable.

          Damned if they do; damned if they don’t, eh?

          It’s worth listening to JA explain how they did the redaction this time, quite differently from what they did with the Afghan logs. They began by redacting everything and then building back up from there. (Don’t ask me how this is done, but I’d be interested if anyone can explain it further — lay language, plz.) And they are still working on it.

          I think they were leaving it to the primary outlets, as to the Pentagon in its responses to FOIA applications, to do the redaction they saw fit, which no doubt has happened and which is no doubt now being studied.

          I don’t read that as fame-seeking. I read that as learning on the job.

  6. harpie says:

    Marcy,
    You are a treasure.

    So in general, Wiki provides a few operational details NYT does not, but NYT provides names (at least of Meckfessel), provides indication of who was captured, and describes the involvement of the Kurds and Iranians. And, of course, NYT provides multiple details of location, which is critical to its Michael Gordon narrative about Iran.

    Of course. From early in the Gordon/Lehren article [emphasis added]:

    What made the warning especially worrying were intelligence reports saying that the Iraqi militant, Azhar al-Dulaimi, had been trained by the Middle East’s masters of the dark arts of paramilitary operations: the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps in Iran and Hezbollah, its Lebanese ally.

    Anything after this is of questionable objectivity, imo.

    Jeff Kaye documents here how the NYT spun a story of heroism from something different.
    http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/77803

    In the following paragraph, an American soldier’s witnessing of torture is reported as if the soldier intervened to stop it. In fact, the very documentary evidence the New York Times links to demonstrates the exact opposite.
    […]
    Among whatever other truths are to be revealed, one truth stands out, and the UK Guardian headline is clear in its reporting: Iraq war logs: secret files show how US ignored torture. The truth.

  7. skdadl says:

    Not sure where I saw this (I’m watching and reading too much), but JA has said that WL is now going to go through the redactions again, possibly to restore some material lost in the first go-through.

    The NYT’s emphasis on the Iran connection is, ah, singular among the primary outlets.

  8. dustbunny44 says:

    The difference is Wikileaks is out of their control
    The NYT is a key piece of the national infrastructure for disseminating information without accountability: they won’t print it if they are told not to do so.

  9. harpie says:

    Ha!

    Wikileaks’ 400,000 Classified Iraq War Documents Reveal 15,000 Previously Unreported Civilian Casualties, and Extensive Torture; Andy Worthington; 10/23/10

    The Guardian’s coverage is here, Der Spiegel’s is here, and the New York Times’ coverage, which unfortunately dwells too much on revelations about the military’s fears of Iranian involvement in the insurgency (as this was an inevitable fallout from the ill-conceived invasion, and should not be used to assist those seeking war against Iran) is here. In addition, Channel 4 will be covering the leaked documents in a Dispatches programme on Monday.

    • harpie says:

      Thanks for that, faster. The subtile is: ‘Fragmentary order 242’ allowed US forces to ignore torture allegations: report. It’s my understanding that frago 242 ordered troops to ignore Iraqi on Iraqi torture. I’ll look into it some more.

      • skdadl says:

        Frago 242: They were ordered to report but not to intervene and not to begin investigations.

        Do the Fragos remind anyone else of “fragging”? Military language: not poetry.

        • harpie says:

          US troops ordered not to investigate Iraqi torture; Angus Stickler and Chris Woods; The Bureau of Investigative Journalism; 10/22/10

          http://www.iraqwarlogs.com/2010/10/22/us-troops-ordered-not-to-investigate-iraqi-torture/

          [emphasis added] And yet within the secret files are two orders which tell ground force troops not to investigate these allegations of abuse.

          Both orders were issued after events at Abu Ghraib in April 2004. The first reference to FRAGO 242, appears in the logs on June 26 2004.

          June 26 2004

          Provided the initial report confirms US forces were not involved in the detainee abuse, no further investigation will be conducted unless directed by HHQ.

          The second order, FRAGO 039, issued in April 2005 did require US personnel to report Iraqi on Iraqi abuse, but to take no further action unless ordered..

          Iraqi on Iraqi (no US forces personnel were involved) note: MNCI FRAGO 039 DTD 29 April 2005 has modified FRAGO 242 and now requires reports of Iraqi on Iraqi abuse be reported through operational channels.

          It is unclear from the files what happened to the reports of detainee abuse once they had been sent up the chain of command. There are indications that some may have been investigated, but it is not known whether this was by the US or if the files were handed over to the appropriate Iraqi authorities.

          So I guess the difference is between an “initial report” and a “report…through operational channels”.

        • harpie says:

          No intervention and “no further investigation” unless ordered by HHQ in both cases, though…right?

  10. fatster says:

    Oh, boy.

    Is this terrorism case a joke?

    “The U.S. Justice Department made a breakthrough of sorts when it launched a terrorism court case in Sacramento three years ago. Until then, terrorism had been a scary business. Now, we’re looking at farce.
    , , ,

    ?The joke is that the more information that has emerged about this case, the more it looks as though the government should be on trial instead of the defendants.”

    LINK.

    • rosalind says:

      great article, fatster. what a farce, and a complete waste of taxpayer money. this passage –

      The biggest problem with pre-emptive cases, it turns out, is that everyone involved in the law enforcement community has powerful incentives to bring them. Investigators get promotions for the indictments they bring, not for the convictions. Federal prosecutors get credit from their superiors in Washington for having “A” level or national security cases, even if the cases are weak. The incentives have created an institutional enthusiasm for creating these cases – and a reluctance to give them up, even if they are flawed.

      – can be applied to so many of our current on-going institutional melt-downs…

  11. rosalind says:

    tangentially related: this week’s “Law & Order: Los Angeles” features a plot with home-grown terrorists planning to bomb LAX. a tug-of-war ensues between the District Attorney’s office and the Justice Dept/Military who want the defendants tried in a Military Commission. The character played by Terrence Howard gives an impassioned defense for why terrorist trials need to remain in U.S. Courts. It was refreshing to hear actual facts presented in this setting.

    unfortunately the show then goes off the rails into a ludicrous legal ending, but if anyone wants to watch the earlier part the show’s currently available for viewing on Hulu.

  12. skdadl says:

    Lots of anger today in the twitterverse and b’sphere over John Burns’s trashy character assassination of Assange in the NYT, which was actually up as their lead story for a while — right next to all the stories they got from WL. And that from a reporter and a paper who worked hard to do propaganda for the invasion and occupation. Charming folks.

    Greenwald did a principled reply to Burns here. I’m not sure I’m as polite as gg. I can fisk almost every sentence of Burns’s article; I’m just not sure it’s worth the trouble, and I’d have to take another shower afterwards.

    • bmaz says:

      Assange still strikes me as a preening narcissist who has turned himself into such an arrogant sideshow that he is detrimental to the valid effort of Wikileaks.

      • skdadl says:

        I know that, bmaz. You don’t want me to answer you with all guns blazing, do you? I want to stay friends, but I’m amazed at how people fall for some of the transparent smears.

        I don’t quite understand the animus against JA among many liberal males (I’m using liberal in the USian sense). You have no trouble with obvious loose cannons who leak to Poulsen or Newsweek or Shenon, but a serious risk-taker who insists on maintaining his dignity in the face of a trash-talking CNN interviewer who just wasted a prime opportunity looks arrogant to you?

        • bmaz says:

          Oh, I appreciate what he does in terms of the Wikileaks project, it is his personal schticht of self promotion and arrogance that rubs me the wrong way and I think it is actually detrimental to the worthy effort of Wikileaks itself.

        • skdadl says:

          Don’t you think a lot of the image is projected on to him? People have hyped his “nomadic” lifestyle, eg, and he probably knows other people find it bizarre, but if he doesn’t, who cares? (Except the people who make money by writing about it.)

          However much he has himself worked to become the lightning rod, I suspect that that was not a bad security move. It’s much harder just to knock him off quietly now. They have to go the indirect route — politically susceptible and already nutty prosecutors in Sweden, jealous superannuated NYT hacks, that sort of thing.

  13. harpie says:

    Jeff Kaye‘s update:

    http://my.firedoglake.com/valtin/2010/10/23/ny-times-tale-of-us-soldier-intervention-against-torture-is-a-lie/

    [internal links in original] One of especial interest is a video at UK Guardian, which also has an interview with New York Times correspondent Peter Maass, who was allowed time with Iraq’s notorious special commandos, Wolf Brigade. Maass puts Gen. Petraeus special adviser,

    James Steele, a “retired United States Army colonel who also helped develop the special police as a member of General Petraeus’s team”, in the same room as himself when both heard an Iraqi being tortured in another room.

    A January 2007 article by Dahr Jamail noted the connections between Steele and his old El Salvador counterinsurgency boss, John Negroponte, who was U.S. ambassador to Iraq in 2004-2005. Negroponte then was U.S. ambassador as FRAGO 242 was put into operation. […][emphasis added]

    Like a cancer…