Cotton Swabs and Grievance Myths: Do Not Invite Republicans to Express Support for Kash Patel’s Witch Hunts

I want to elaborate on some points I made in a Bluesky exchange I had with Greg Sargent about his post on the Barry Loudermilk report referring Liz Cheney for investigation yesterday. It was, I hope, a civil and substantive exchange (multiple people have mentioned it since), and for that I want to thank Sargent.

But I wanted to explain some points I tried making at more length.

Sargent’s post noted — and he’s right — that Trump’s embrace of Loudermilk’s report discredits false assurances Senate Republicans have offered that Kash Patel won’t pursue political witch hunts if confirmed as FBI Director.

Barely moments after Donald Trump announced that he’d chosen loyalist Kash Patel as FBI director, Republicans stampeded forth to insist that this in no way means Trump will unleash law enforcement on his enemies, even though Trump himself has threatened to do so. Senator John Cornyn suggested such threats were only for “public consumption.” Senator Rick Scott said Trump is “not gonna do it.” And Representative Dan Meuser scoffed that the very idea is “nonsense.”

These lawmakers should take a moment to consult Trump’s Truth Social feed. At 3:11 a.m. on Wednesday, demonstrating characteristic emotional balance, Trump posted this reaction to a new report from a House subcommittee chaired by GOP Representative Barry Loudermilk, which recommends that the FBI investigate former GOP Representative Liz Cheney over her role in the House’s January 6 inquiry:

Liz Cheney could be in a lot of trouble based on the evidence obtained by the subcommittee, which states that “numerous federal laws were likely broken by Liz Cheney, and these violations should be investigated by the FBI.” Thank you to Congressman Barry Loudermilk on a job well done.

Note the trademark mobspeak here: Cheney could be in a lot of trouble for federal lawbreaking, Trump declares, as if he’s merely a passive observer remarking on the danger she faces, rather than someone who will control the nation’s sprawling federal law enforcement apparatus in just over a month. Trump has been raging at Cheney for years and has amplified suggestions that she should face televised military tribunals.

Now, in a dark turn in this whole farcical saga, Trump is pretending that House Republicans have given him a legitimate basis for prosecuting Cheney, when in fact their claims were cooked up in bad faith for precisely that purpose.

Sargent argues that the press should “hound[ GOP Senators] mercilessly” on whether they’ll still support Kash after Trump’s endorsement of Loudermilk’s report.

Trump’s veiled threat toward Cheney should prompt the press to revisit those reassurances from Republicans. GOP senators should be hounded mercilessly by reporters on whether they’ll knowingly support Patel now that Trump has made the corrupt reality of the situation so inescapably, alarmingly clear.

If we lived in a world where Republican hypocrisy could be shamed, where journalists had the skill to manage such an exchange, that would be worthwhile.

We don’t live in that world.

Trying to budge Republicans from their reassurances would backfire.

Here’s why.

First, consider the utter incompetence of most journalists this side of Mehdi Hasan to handle such an exchange.

I’ve been tracking a right wing technique I’ve dubbed “Cotton swabs” (because Tom Cotton is a skilled practitioner in the technique). In it, when Republicans get asked these kind of gotcha questions by Manu Raju in the hallway or by Kristen Welker on a Sunday show, they instead flip the gotcha on its head, using it as an opportunity to air unrebutted propaganda. And the journalist is left as a discredited prop in Trump’s assault on the press.

For example, when Welker recently asked Trump if he would, in the interest of unifying the country, concede he lost the 2020 election, Trump not only refused to concede he lost, but he used the question to blame Biden that the country was divided, and then — with absolutely no pushback from Welker — lied about Joe Biden weaponizing DOJ to go after him, Trump. (The exchange introduced precisely the same kind of false reassurance that Sargent called out.)

KRISTEN WELKER:

Yes. And sir, I don’t have to tell you this, because you’ve talked about it. It comes at a time when the country is deeply divided, and now you’re going to be leading this country for the next four years. For the sake of unifying this country, will you concede the 2020 election and turn the page on that chapter?

PRESIDENT-ELECT DONALD TRUMP:

No. No, why would I do that? But let me just tell you —

KRISTEN WELKER:

You won’t ever concede —

PRESIDENT-ELECT DONALD TRUMP:

– when you say the country is deeply divided, I’m not the president. Joe Biden is the president.

KRISTEN WELKER:

But you’re going to be the president.

PRESIDENT-ELECT DONALD TRUMP:

No, no. I’m not the president. So when you say it’s deeply divided, I agree. But Biden’s the president, I’m not. And he has been a divider. And you know where he divided it more than anything else, and it probably backfired on him. I think definitely is weaponization. When he weaponized the Justice Department and he went after his political opponent, me. He went after his political opponent violently because he knew he couldn’t beat him. And I think it really was a bad thing, and it really divided our country.

So instead of giving the harmless concession she invited, that Trump lost to Joe Biden in 2020, Trump instead hijacked Welker’s platform to lie about being a victim. She asked for something to support unity. He stoked division more, blaming the polarization of the country on Biden. Then he made false claims of grievance.

It had exactly opposite effect Welker imagined. And in the fact check NBC did after the interview? Trump’s lie about Biden weaponizing DOJ went unmentioned.

NBC treated it, a brazen lie, as if it were true.

If you want to know how Trump got elected even after being charged in two federal indictments, you might start with the way that every legacy media outlet lets lies like this go uncontested.* Always. Trump never gets fact checked on his false claims about the federal investigations into his attempted coup and stolen documents.

As a result, even newsies who watch mainstream Sunday shows might be forgiven for believing the cases against Trump were ginned up, to say nothing of the judges and lawyers, from Aileen Cannon to Bill Barr to Sam Alito, who instead pickle their brains with the propaganda on Fox News.

If journalists don’t fact check these false claims, where would voters learn differently? Where would your average voter learn that the investigations against Trump were just?

Sometimes Cotton swabs involve speaking over the questioner (a favorite technique of JD Vance [see update below for an example] and Marco Rubio). Sometimes it involves flipping the entire premise of the question. It always involves, first, a shameless refusal to disavow the outrageous Trump practice or statement. As such, these are performative moments of obeisance, reinforcing Trump’s power and the assault on truth he demands.

And on questions regarding Trump’s troubled relationship with rule of law, it always involves false claims about past DOJ practice, either denials he politicized DOJ or false claims it was politicized against him. Sometimes both!

Trump and his allies have used Cotton swabs to sneak hundreds — probably thousands — of false claims that he, and not his adversaries, was a victim of politicized prosecution onto purportedly factual news outlets with no pushback.

None.

Indeed, at least one of the underlying examples of Republicans giving reassurances about Kash that Sargent cited was itself a Cotton swab. Rick Scott didn’t just say that Trump wouldn’t launch investigations in his second term, the part Sargent quoted, he premised his answer on a false claim that Trump didn’t do so in his first term (a very common claim among Trump’s most loyal allies).

“He didn’t do it the first time. He’s not gonna do it this time,” Scott said. (Trump actually did press for prosecutions of his enemies during his first term, such as by publicly musing there should be probes of former Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton, and he also pushed for a criminal investigation into a previous investigation of his 2016 campaign.)

Even with Arthur Delaney’s fact check (a rarity in the reporting of Cotton swabs), HuffPo didn’t note that Trump did more than simply demand investigations of his adversaries, he got them. A key prong of the John Durham investigation chased possible Russian disinformation exacerbated by Durham’s own fabrications to criminalize Hillary’s use of oppo research. And both Durham’s indictments presented dodgy false statement accusations as conspiracies extending to the Hillary campaign. Trump’s DOJ set up a side channel via which Biden was framed — a false allegation used to ratchet up felony charges against his son. And there’s a long line of investigations — IRS audits, DOJ IG investigations used to fire people without due process, US Attorneys ordered to pursue special investigations (including another one targeting Hillary) — that targeted Trump’s enemies.

Trump’s administration targeted his enemies all the time, via a variety of means. And yet that gets buried in the HuffPo report. What should have been an opportunity to debunk Scott’s premise was, even from a diligent journalist, an exchange that still obscured how systematically Trump politicized rule of law in his first term.

And these Cotton swabs are part of a larger process, the extended con via which Trump has gotten Republicans to hate rule of law that LOLGOP and I have been tracing in the Ball of Thread podcast. Rather than treating the Russian investigation as a welcome review of four associates all of whom were monetizing their access to Trump with foreign countries, he instead latched onto false claims he was wiretapped, making himself a victim. With the help of Kash Patel, Trump substituted the Steele dossier for the real substance of the Russian investigation, convincing most Republicans that the investigation started not from the Trump campaign’s foreknowledge of the Russian attack on Hillary, but instead from Hillary’s attempt to understand Trump’s unabashed Russian ties — that oppo research Durham would criminalize. Trump then turned on the FBI, claiming that a bunch of people who were just trying to protect the country from an attack by a hostile country were instead targeting him personally; the myth that FBI targeted him is precisely what John Cornyn internalized when he attributed his support for Kash because Kash planned, “to restore the FBI to its former reputation as a nonpartisan, no political institution, and he told me he agreed” (also part of the Delaney story). Via both his own propaganda and the Durham investigation designed to flip the script on Hillary, Bill Barr reinforced that myth of Trump grievance. And all that while the entire Republican party responded to Trump’s extortion of Ukraine by relentlessly pursuing Joe Biden’s kid to the exclusion of pursuing policy, using a fabricated bribery allegation to ratchet things up before their rematch. Think about that! Trump dodged his first impeachment by ginning up a politicized investigation of Biden and his kid, and that entire process has been memory holed!

Gone!

Poof!

And while LOLGOP and I still have several episodes to do, it is no accident that the same team that turned a hard drive of Hunter’s dick pics — a relentless campaign of revenge porn — into yet another claim that poor Donald Trump was the victim, it is no accident that that very same team turned immediately to using the Big Lie to attack the foundations of American democracy. And Trump did it again when he beat the second (impeachment) and third (criminal indictment) attempts to hold him accountable. The price of admission in today’s GOP is these moments of performed fealty, the willingness to use legitimate questions about the politicized justice Kash has promised to instead publicly adopt Trump’s false claims that he is a victim.

The entire GOP is currently built around this myth of grievance. It gets reinforced with every Cotton swab. It was Trump’s platform during the election. It was the lie he used to make a bunch of disaffected Americans believe they had something in common with a billionaire grifting off their vulnerabilities.

This is the core of Trump’s super power, the claims of grievance he manufactures to justify his assault on rule of law.

The last thing you should want is for journalists to rush out to give Republican Senators yet another opportunity to perform their obeisance to Trump and his false myths of grievance, because all it will do is reinforce the polarization Trump thrives on and do further damage to truth and rule of law.

If we’re going to break this spell, we need to go about it a different way, some of which Sargent and I also discussed with respect to Kash, some of which I laid out in an earlier post responding to something Sargent wrote.

You are not going to defeat a Kash Patel or Pam Bondi nomination by asking for promises about political investigations. As I noted in that earlier post, Democrats (and even Lindsey Graham) attempted that approach with Bill Barr, and he proceeded directly from his confirmation to turn DOJ into a propaganda factory, down to the fabricated bribery allegation against Joe Biden.

Leave the direct assault on Kash to Olivia Troye (if she remains willing), to whom Kash already provided opportunity to talk not about his past role in abusing rule of law for Trump, but instead about how he lied to the people who relied on him, up to and including Mike Pence. Troye gives Republicans reason to oppose Kash because he has harmed Republicans. If you instead focus on Kash’s past and promised politicization, you’ll just trigger more obeisance to Trump’s myth of grievance.

Luckily, with Kash, there are other ways to get at this.

The question that kicked off the entire exchange between Sargent and me, for example, was about Speech and Debate, which should protect Liz Cheney from any scrutiny even if the false claims alleged in the Loudermilk report were true. Raising the Loudermilk referral as a question about Speech and Debate has the advantage of addressing the one area that has gotten Republicans to stand up to Trump, their own prerogatives (for example, by defending advice and consent on nominations). Questions about Speech and Debate would provide cause to raise the opinion — written by Trump appointee Neomi Rao, with a concurrence from former Trump White House Counsel Greg Katsas — that extended Speech and Debate protection to Scott Perry’s plotting on the Big Lie and affirmed its application in less formal situations than Liz Cheney’s communication with Cassidy Hutchinson at the core of Loudermilk’s report.

The district court, however, incorrectly withheld the privilege from communications between Representative Perry and other Members about the 2020 election certification vote and a vote on proposed election reform legislation.

Does Kash know better than Neomi Rao about Liz Cheney’s immunity from this kind of investigation, he should be asked (whether Rao or Kash is a bigger nutball is admittedly a close question, but one that can sow some useful discomfort). Questions to Kash about whether Speech and Debate defeats Loudermilk’s referral would have a very different valence than questions about politicization, because they would carry with them the implication that if Kash can investigate Liz Cheney and Adam Schiff, Mitch McConnell will be next.

Plus, they provide cause to focus on something Senators should address anyway: Kash’s lawsuit against DOJ for his own subpoena. In addition to claiming that the subpoena targeting him and others (including Adam Schiff, though he neglected to mention that) was “a chilling attempt to surveil the person leading the Legislative Branch’s investigation into the Department of Justice’s conduct,” something also included in the scope of the January 6 Committee, Kash also made preposterous claims about the standard for subpoenas (which is why it was dismissed unceremoniously in September).

Even Kash’s legally illiterate claims won’t disqualify him with Republican Senators, but raising them gets him on the record as to his understanding of the law before he signs a bunch of orders adopting wildly different standards targeting Trump’s adversaries. Kash has made expansive claims about privacy rights and right of redress against the federal government. Fine. Let’s make aspiring FBI Director Kash Patel adhere to that standard.

But they also provide a way to point out that Kash’s targets actually aren’t Trump’s targets. Many of those on his enemies list, for example, are people, like Rod Rosenstein (the real target of Kash’s lawsuit) against whom he’s got a grudge. Trump and GOP Republicans don’t give a damn if Kash pursues Trump’s enemies. Either they’re too cynical to care, or they believe — or have to feign that they believe — that Trump’s enemies have it coming. But if Kash turns the FBI into his own personal fiefdom? Too many Republicans have been at odds with Kash to abide by that.

Finally, there’s the point I made about the Loudermilk report, after actually taking the time to read it (which no one else seems to have done). In the 39 pages of his report dedicated to DOD’s inaction, Loudermilk gets vanishingly close to accusing then Acting Secretary of Defense Christopher Miller of criminal insubordination for not deploying 10,000 members of the National Guard on January 6.

President Trump instructed the highest-ranking Pentagon official to use any and all military assets to ensure safety three days prior to January 6, 2021. The Acting Secretary of Defense concedes that external variables, such as the “Twitter sphere”, accusations of being a “Trump crony” and Representative Cheney’s Op-Ed, weighed on his mind as he determined how and whether to employ the National Guard on January 6, 2021. During this period of time, Acting Secretary Miller published his January 4 memo, with significant restrictions and control measures on the DCNG.

To date, no investigation or disciplinary action has taken place against Acting Secretary of Defense Miller for his failure to follow directives from the sitting Commander-in-Chief on January 3, 2021.

Loudermilk sources this accusation in DOD IG’s own investigation of their inaction for some very good reasons. First, the January 6 Committee revealed that what really happened is that a bunch of Trump loyalists, up to and including Mark Meadows, scoffed at the notion that Trump would march to the Capitol protected by 10,000 National Guard troops. More importantly, Kash Patel’s claims about his own involvement in this process put him right there at Miller’s side, part of the same insubordinate inaction. That’s a fiction Loudermilk needed to spin. It’s a fiction even more outrageous than his referral of Liz Cheney.

But it’s also a referral that implicates Trump’s pick for FBI Director personally. Did Kash fail the President? Or did he instead join everyone else in recognizing what it would mean for Trump to march to the Capitol?

A damn good question for a confirmation hearing.

Kash Patel’s own big mouth, past actions, and wacky legal claims provide ample material to create friction between him and Senate Republicans guarding their own prerogatives. That’s almost certainly not enough to sink his nomination, though it would be more effective than inviting Republicans to reaffirm their belief in Trump’s grievance myth. But questions about such topics may provide better material going forward to box him in.

About one thing I’m certain, though: you will get nowhere if you make this a loyalty contest. You will get nowhere if you keep framing this as an opportunity for Republicans to either reaffirm that loyalty oath, even if it entails a direct assault on rule of law, or invite an attack on themselves personally.

Virtually all GOP Senators will find a way to back Trump and his assault on rule of law. Every single time.

And given the inept media we’ve got right now, it will serve only to do more damage, reinforcing Trump’s conceit that the law is just a matter of political loyalty.

Do not give Republicans an opportunity to condemn or endorse Kash Patel’s witch hunt against Trump’s enemies. It’s the quickest way to ensure they remain unified in supporting him.


*The night after I wrote this, I woke up and remembered that CNN’s Daniel Dale had written a fairly extensive fact check about Trump going after his adversaries. The exchange with Martha Raddatz he responded to was a good example of how JD Vance talks over people to deliver his Cotton swabs, filibustering to prevent any rebuttal.

RADDATZ: Would Donald Trump go after his political opponents?

VANCE: No —

RADDATZ: He suggested that in the past.

VANCE: Martha, he was president for four years and he didn’t go after his political opponents.

You know who did go after her political opponents? Kamala Harris, who has tried to arrest everything from pro-life activists to her political opponents —

(CROSSTALK)

RADDATZ: He said those people who cheated would be prosecuted.

VANCE: — and used the Department of Justice as a weapon against people — well, he said that people who violated our election laws will be prosecuted. I think that’s the administration of law. He didn’t say people are going to go to jail because they disagree with me. That is, in fact, been the administration and the policy of Kamala Harris, Martha.

Look, under the last three-and-a-half years, we have seen politically-motivated after politically-motivated prosecution. I’d like us to just get back to a system of law and order where we try to arrest people when they break the law, not because they disagree with the prevailing opinion of the day, and there’s a fundamental difference here between Donald Trump and Kamala Harris. Donald Trump may agree — agree or disagree on a particular issue, but he will fight for your right to speak your mind without the government trying to silence you.

Kamala Harris is explicitly —

RADDATZ: Senator Vance, I —

(CROSSTALK)

VANCE: — censorship of folks who disagree with her.

RADDATZ: I want to go back to Donald Trump.

(CROSSTALK)

In response to Dale’s fact check, Trump’s campaign accused the media of a double standard because DOJ hadn’t indicted Biden or Hillary for their non-crimes.

Trump made extensive behind-the-scenes efforts to get his political opponents charged with crimes. But you don’t have to rely on investigative reporting or the memoirs of former administration officials to know that Trump went after political opponents as president.

He often went after them in public, too.

As CNN reporter Marshall Cohen has noted, there is a long list of political opponents whom Trump publicly called for the Justice Department and others to investigate or prosecute. The list includes not only 2016 election opponent Hillary Clinton and 2020 election opponent Joe Biden but also Biden’s son Hunter BidenDemocratic former Secretary of State John KerryTrump’s former national security advisor turned critic John BoltonDemocratic former President Barack Obamaunspecified Obama administration officialsthe anonymous author of a New York Times op-ed by a Trump administration official critical of TrumpMSNBC host and Trump critic Joe Scarboroughformer FBI director turned Trump critic James Comeyother former FBI officialsformer British spy Christopher Steele (the author of a controversial dossier of allegations against Trump), and various congressional Democrats – including former House Speaker Nancy PelosiRep. Adam Schiff of CaliforniaRep. Ilhan Omar of Minnesota, Sen. Richard Blumenthal of Connecticut, and Sen. Mark Warner of Virginia.

Asked for comment for this article on Monday, Vance spokesperson Taylor Van Kirk accused the media of having a biased “double standard” and said “it is indisputable that under Kamala Harris and Joe Biden’s DOJ, the Republican nominee for president was targeted and indicted, while under President Trump, nothing like that ever transpired against either of the Democrats he faced off with in 2016 or 2020.”

But that wasn’t for a lack of Trump trying.

Trump repeatedly pressured the Justice Department as president to prosecute both Clinton and Biden, in addition to trying to get foreign countries to investigate Biden. That the Trump-era Justice Department declined to charge Clinton and Biden doesn’t mean it’s true that Trump didn’t “go after” them or others. (In fact, Trump literally said in 2017 that he wanted the department to be “going after” Clinton.) [my emphasis]

But even Dale, the best in the business, made no mention of how aggressively Durham investigated Hillary and her campaign and ignored that the Brady side channel led directly to the elevation of Alexander Smirnov’s attempt to frame Joe Biden, which had a role in David Weiss’ elevation as Special Counsel, which led to the felony conviction of Hunter [Dale relies heavily on CNN’s Marshall Cohen, who got the Durham investigation wildly wrong].

In 2019, Barr satisfied Trump’s investigate-the-investigators demand by tasking a federal prosecutor to help investigate the origins of the FBI’s probe related to Russia and the 2016 election. In late 2020, with about three months left in Trump’s presidency, Barr gave that prosecutor, John Durham, the status of special counsel.

And in early 2020, Barr tasked a different federal prosecutor with taking in information from members of the public, notably including then-Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani, related to allegations about the Bidens and Ukraine, which had been a subject of Trump’s public and private focus.

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  1. earlofhuntingdon says:

    If you want to know how Trump got elected even after being charged in two federal indictments, you might start with the way that every legacy media outlet lets lies like this go uncontested. Always. Trump never gets fact checked on his false claims about the federal investigations into his attempted coup and stolen documents.

    • Marinela says:

      I was thinking about it. The only explanation I have, Trump sets the rules up front.
      If the rules are not followed he walks out of the interview.
      And the rules are:
      – Trump sees the questions in advance
      – No fact checking allowed by the interviewer

      This is the only way I can explain why Trump would sit down with Walker and not get any pushback.

      If I were her, I would state those damn rules ahead so everybody understands what is going on.

      The other option, they are feckless, access journalist, who knows?

  2. Boycurry says:

    This is such a good post. But how do you get an unwilling legacy media to pull their own heads out of their ass and see how they are getting played like this over and over?

    • Tannenzaepfle says:

      How do you get media companies owned by billionaires to aggressively push back against a candidate who will massively cut their owners’ taxes? The master’s tools will never dismantle the master’s house.

  3. RMD De Plume says:

    DARVO

    ( acronym for "deny, attack, and reverse victim & offender") is a reaction that perpetrators of wrongdoing, such as sexual offenders, often display in response to being held accountable for their behavior.
    Some researchers indicate that it is a common manipulation strategy of psychological abusers.

    Process:
    As the acronym suggests, the common steps involved are:

    1. The abuser denies the abuse ever took place
    2. When confronted with evidence, the abuser then attacks the person that was/is being abused (and/or the person’s family and/or friends) for attempting to hold the abuser accountable for their actions, or those bringing the allegations….and finally
    3. The abuser claims that they were/are actually the victim in the situation, thus reversing the positions of victim and offender.
    It often involves not just playing the victim but also victim blaming.
    (wikipedia)

  4. Ed Walker says:

    As long as the Rs refuse to answer questions, there is no reason to interview them. So here’s a solution: show the reporter asking the question. As the R starts to answer, turn down the audio, and do a voice over: Congressman X then reaffirmed his absolute obedience to Trump. Or, despite two attempts, Senator Y refused to answer the question, indicating that he will continue his support of Trump’s grievances.

    Alternatively, I suppose, a reporter for the BM (Billionaire Media) could learn enough about the facts to ask actual questions instead of the questions the ratfuckers can avoid with blather.

    About equally likely, I’d say.

    • RealAlexi says:

      “As the R starts to answer, turn down the audio, and do a voice over: Congressman X then reaffirmed his absolute obedience to Trump. Or, despite two attempts, Senator Y refused to answer the question, indicating that he will continue his support of Trump’s grievances.”

      This is EXACTLY how to do it. It should be a weekly SNL skit or someone like the Lincoln Project or Meidas could do it.

      We’ve got to humiliate the media into doing their jobs. Those of us outside the tent have to be pointing at the Emperors New Clothes and humiliating his cowardly vassals.

      It’s going to take acerbic court jesters to do this.

      • Marlene Lerner-Bigley says:

        The only one willing to conduct that kind of interview is Lawrence O’Donnell of MSNBC. Trump despises him as much as Lawrence does him. He brings an actual smoking gun to the fight 4 nights a week. Nobody else does that. NOBODY!

    • harold hecuba says:

      Yeah, that’s not how that should go. We haven’t devolved into a Trumpocracy just yet, and no reason to silence someone we disagree with.

      Trump is a convicted felon and a miserable human being, enabled by sycophants and Republicans who refuse to quite literally do the right thing, but those are not the reasons he’s back in office. He’s in office because a huge amount of voters don’t care about any of that. They just don’t.

      We haven’t hit rock bottom yet. Give it another year of Republicans unable to find their asses with both hands, lover’s spats between Trump and Musk, and the economy tanking ’cause they can’t get shit done, then maybe MAYBE the average, non-involved voter will take note.

      • Rayne says:

        We haven’t devolved into a Trumpocracy just yet

        I would like you to put yourself in others’ shoes for a moment. Imagine you are a pregnant woman living in Texas or Idaho; an undocumented worker in any state especially within 100 miles of an international border; a non-white person who could be mistaken for an undocumented worker; a trans person trying to live as their human software is programmed and exit the body horror into which that software was loaded; a homeless person who has struggled with drug addiction, or simply can’t work long or hard enough in a minimum wage job to pay the rent.

        The Trumpocracy is and has been here; people have died and are dying because of it. The GOP has rigidly enforced its existence since multiple Roberts’ SCOTUS decisions and the mid-term elections of 2022. The Never Trump faction has not had enough critical mass to change this fact when it can muster spine, and the MAGA haven’t yet had their faces eaten by the leopard they support.

        Your complacency — the luxury to say “give it another year” while you sit back and watch — is a sign of your privilege.

        • Zinsky123 says:

          Well put, Rayne. The microaggressions directed at the poor, people of color, LGBTQ people and all marginalized people have become so amplified under the Trump regime, but they have always been there, haven’t they? Peace to you.

        • harold hecuba says:

          My point involves the media and their role in this environment, and my take on the “average” voter.

          As far as your digressions into subjects I never touched on, I’ll just say this: we have been living in those scenarios for quite some time that have nothing to do with Trump. (go ahead and single out abortion, which is Trump)

        • Rayne says:

          Your comment made zero reference to the media.

          You’ve forgotten the other Roberts’ SCOTUS decisions made in 2022 alone — with a Trump-ian majority — besides Dobbs, like Oklahoma v. Castro-Huerta; 303 Creative LLC v. Elenis; Students for Fair Admissions (SFFA) v. Harvard and Students for Fair Admissions (SFFA) v. UNC. Dobbs may have been the worst of 2022 but Clarence Thomas pointedly wrote in Dobbs the same Roberts’ Trump-ian court will go after every past decision which relied on an unenumerated right to privacy, including Connecticut v. Griswold, Loving v. Virginia, and Obergefell v. Hodges. That’s just one year of damage resulting from the Trumpocracy’s first term.

          The body count is mounting, more dead women on top of the +1,000,000 U.S. dead from Trump’s bullshit handling of Hurricane Maria, COVID, the raid on Yakla, Yemen, the troops killed in Afghanistan by bounty hunters, more. You minimize the Trumpocracy by insisting things will change if given another year, because they didn’t even when thousands of Americans died each day thanks to GOP’s goddamned omertà supporting Trumpocracy.

  5. thesmokies says:

    “If journalists don’t fact check these false claims, where would voters learn differently? Where would your average voter learn that the investigations against Trump were just?”

    I’ve been arguing for a while that we need to challenge the legacy media harder to do their job. But, I’ve come to believe that that is probably a losing proposition. They seem to be incapable or not interested, or both. So, I believe we need to find alternatives for communicating the facts to Americans. Some are currently developing ways to reach Americans through alternative media platforms like podcasts and social media. I think that holds a lot of promise.

    I offer another possibility. Keep it simple. Some group of progressives could create a web page titled “Trump Administration Promises.” The page would have 3 columns: Promise(s), Action(s), Consequence(s). Each significant promise would be listed in very simple language. For example, one item in the Promises column could be one word: “Tariffs.” Underneath Tariffs would be a link called “See details.” Similarly, the second column would list any actions (stated simply) that were taken to fulfill the promise. After each action: A link to See Details. Finally, the third column would list the consequence(s) of each action, again in simple terms. This would be followed by the link “See evidence.”

    All the information on the “details” and “evidence” pages would be well researched and documented. But the home page would remain simple! Many people just read the headlines of articles. Most people would probably just read the home page of this site. But if it were laid out clearly and simply, and with simple language, it could be a home page that people would return to, and a page that others could link to when they were discussing these promises, actions, or consequences.

    As many have said, the media has particularly failed in identifying and explaining the consequences of politicians’ actions. Actions have consequences. Tell people what those consequences are in language they can understand and will peruse.

    • RipNoLonger says:

      A good idea (web page showing Promises, Actions, and Consequences. I’d also suggest that it should have an interface that allowed searching for people and issues, filtering by dates/etc., and be in a format that could be downloaded for further research. Perhaps a moderated means of submitting new entries.

    • earthworm says:

      suggestion above:
      this is what EW community members get right here!
      EW cannot cover every damned detail of the dis-information tsunami but where there are documents there is close reading and attention to details and facts.

      • thesmokies says:

        “this is what EW community members get right here!”

        Absolutely. But the intended audience of the webpage is not EW readers.

    • Stephen Calhoun says:

      To update this for the current media age, the web page’s content could be redeployed in a capsule manner on: youtube/tik-tok/associated podcast and then published in social media.

      (I’m old so this is just a first swing at the media mode challenge.)

      • thesmokies says:

        Absolutely. You could passively wait for those in these alternative media platforms to link to or discuss the webpage, but I think it makes more sense to proactively “redeploy” the content through these vehicles.

  6. John Colvin says:

    Great post. However, I am pretty sure that the IRS audits of Comey and McCabe were the results of randomized processes within the IRS. Both had significant non-wage income reported on Schedule Cs, an area that is historically subject to greater IRS scrutiny (both because of higher rates of non-compliance and the lack of internal controls in the enterprise). One or both were research audits, meaning that they were chosen via statistical sampling, with the purpose of helping the IRS ask better questions of like populations in the future. If someone had attempted to tip scales (e.g., introduce someone who the computers had not selected for an audit into the audit population), this would have been found by TIGTA, which had been asked to look at the issue by Commissioner Rettig. It certainly looks fishy, but we should not impute causation.

    • emptywheel says:

      Trump asked for an IRS investigation into Peter Strzok and intervened in Hunter Biden’s investigation at least twice.

      • John Colvin says:

        Thanks in no small part to your reporting, I was aware of the interference in the Hunter Biden investigation. I was not aware of a request that the IRS look at Strzok. It is unsurprising: Trump seems to be an “enemies list” personified.

        • emptywheel says:

          We know it from a statement John Kelly gave Strzok for his lawsuit. He said he doesn’t know that it happened.

  7. Error Prone says:

    To the extent Kash might go after any of the Jan 6 panel members, Biden could issue balnket pardons, for Chney and Kinzinger and others. Closing that door would make sense. As to those in the DoD when Jan 6 happened, Biden could pardon them, but they were not his party. Biden could test the limits of pardon power to where SCOTUS has to rule on it during Trump’s new term, putting Trump’s SCOTUS supporters into a corner.

    • Bruce Olsen says:

      Preemptive pardons will not stop 2 years of harassment from Congress, and wouldn’t materially slow down DoJ-based harassment either. They may never get a grand jury to sign on to actual charges, but that doesn’t matter.

    • emptywheel says:

      Honestly, at this point, people who think pardons are a fix are people who need to do some reflection about all the other people whose persecution they’re being blind to.

      Your focus on the J6C is evidence you’re captive to Trump’s distraction.

    • earlofhuntingdon says:

      Odd that you think institutionalist Joe Biden’s pardons might tempt the Supreme Court to intervene and invent limits to the pardon power, or that its majority would allow that intervention to paint it into a corner. Donald Trump is not an easy guy to overlook.

  8. free-son says:

    Media isn’t inept. Welker could have repeated same question again and again (perhaps a word here there) until Trump told the truth – that he lost. He would walk out and I bet use profanity and threaten the reporter. That would actually make a great Nielsen and many awards. But requires courage. Much easy to “cover” the vast area of “governance” a millimeter deep than getting to the root of the deep cancer.

    But then why aren’t Dems using the same techniques at hearings? Grill baby grill until you break the bad nominee. Why not coordinate and dig deeper with questions, rather than letting folks off hook? Without fact checking in real time?

    • Rayne says:

      Media *is* inept. Why haven’t media organizations dealt structurally with SLAPP suits and threats to reporters? If this isn’t ineptitude by media management, it’s corruption on the part of media ownership.

      “But why aren’t Dems” = literal whataboutism, when the heart of the problem is this question:

      If journalists don’t fact check these false claims, where would voters learn differently? Where would your average voter learn that the investigations against Trump were just?

      Average voters don’t follow House hearings let alone the questions Dems may pose. House Dems are far better positioned to ask the right questions if they can formulate them, “In a recent news report, [xyz] happened on [123] date…]; lawmakers are supposed to be spending most of their time making laws, not doing the goddamned media’s job for them. Let’s not confuse the functions of the first/second and fourth estates.

  9. JanAnderson says:

    Well, this is Russia. Do people in Russia know the regime they live under? Yes they do. Do they ask questions? No, they stopped asking questions. Now you see why.

  10. GKJames25 says:

    What was Welker’s motive in asking Trump: “For the sake of unifying this country, will you concede the 2020 election and turn the page on that chapter?” Leaving aside the idea that Trump (a) has no duty to unify the country (whatever that means); or (b) is interested in unifying it, did she really expect him to concede 2020? She likely thought she’d be the first person in our Infotainment Complex who could get Trump to act against type. Quite a bold, and misguided, assumption to make.

    • RMD De Plume says:

      there’s something of the psychology of maladaptive responses of abuse victims that seems to be occurring
      ….from Stockholm Syndrome….to forms of denial, delusion, suppression of disturbing memory, to magical thinking….
      “if I ask nicely…..”

      • GKJames25 says:

        You’re too kind. The press is first and foremost about … the press. Dissatisfaction with coverage arises out of this conflict in expectations. If we news consumers are informed thoroughly and accurately, it’s by happenstance, not intent. Accuracy and thoroughness require understanding, something that’s possible only if sufficient time is devoted to the matter. And both smack into the primary aim, which is to preserve access.

    • RitaRita says:

      The legacy media follows Conventional Wisdom and looks for headlines, like “Trump Concedes He Lost in 2020”. And, apparently, Conventional Wisdom is that the 2020 election conspiracy theory is what is dividing the country. Perhaps the media thinks that if Trump concedes the 2020 election, we will return to normal politics.

      The country is divided. Why not just ask Trump how he intends to bring Democrats and Republicans together? Democrats are expected to reach across the aisle and heal the wounds of division. The media doesn’t ask Trump or Republicans about healing divisions because they know the answer. But they should.

    • fatvegan000 says:

      If Welker wanted to ask the same tired question every reporter asks ad nauseam, she should have at the very least started it with a truthful statement like:

      “You continue to falsely claim that the 2020 election was stolen, using it as a wedge to divide the country. As President this term, are you willing to put that falsehood aside, stop vilifying Democrats and their voters and govern as President of the whole country?”

      And when he predictably (and his responses are predictable, which makes reporters dumb questioning of him even more inexcusable) starts vilifying Democrats or claiming it was stolen, she should immediately point it out and say “so your answer is no, you aren’t interested in uniting the country.” And then move on to the next question.

  11. Critter7 says:

    The Cotton Swab technique requires aggressive personal confrontation by the person with power in the relationship – the person being interviewed, who in these cases possesses political power as well as the power to deny future interviews – with the journalist. Many people, including some journalists, will shrink from that. Hence, another consequence of the Cotton Swab will be a hesitancy by some journalists to confront the interviewee with more tough questions for fear of eliciting a similar response.

    Yes, the journalist should have the courage to overcome that, and some do, but not all people have that type of courage.

    • Sandor Raven says:

      Dare I say it? Cotton Swab or … Cotton Mouth? (c.f. the “Gish Gallop”) In my distaste for reptiles, I recognize that some creatures, especially snakes and those snake-like, must be handled both very carefully, and very aggressively.

  12. Memory hole says:

    Another great analysis. I think some of the media’s failure is due to how much reading, comprehension, and translating to the masses that truth and reality require. I don’t think many journalists are reading entire reports or all the court filings and have Marcy’s ability to remember it all and spot omissions or contradictions. And then the ability to break it down and report it to where the public at large can digest it. If their owners and editors would even let them.
    I am not trying to excuse that failure. Just a thought .

    Then this: “Think about that! Trump dodged his first impeachment by ginning up a politicized investigation of Biden and his kid, and that entire process has been memory holed!

    Gone!”.
    I deny all responsibility. I was not involved. Signed, Memory hole

    • RealAlexi says:

      “the media’s failure is due to how much reading, comprehension, and translating to the masses that truth and reality require”

      Yes.

      And they could just read this damn blog!! Even us non-lawyer everyday idjits (me) can do it. And it’s FREE FREE FREE!

      Sunlight (which slays Vampires BTW) remains the best disinfectant and as long as the media keeps it’s head firmly buried up it’s collective butthole we ain’t gettin’ none.

      • RMD De Plume says:

        c’mon Real, this site is not “free” in all fairness to the massive amount of work that goes on to keep it going.
        hows about throwin’ down with some helpful support?
        Merry Holidays!

        • RealAlexi says:

          Truly. A massive amount of work; and in a thousand years I could never do it myself. I’m neither that smart nor that knowledgeable. At this moment in my life the support I’m able to give is to spread the word; and I do. I’m extremely grateful for Marcy and everyone who contributes here.

          Merry Holidays to you as well.

    • emptywheel says:

      Reporters are not hired for their reading ability. They’re hired for their rolodexes. People who can read are given other titles and treated as second-class members of the newsroom.

      Which is a pity, bc reading (or reading someone who has done the reading, even) is a good way to avoid being used.

      • thesmokies says:

        “(or reading someone who has done the reading, even)”

        Yes! I would even settle for that from our media at this point.

      • RealAlexi says:

        Aye, and it’s not just knowing how to read, it’s knowing what to read, and the willingness to take the time to fact check; even from a trusted source if need be. We all make mistakes now and again.

        • Rayne says:

          Mr Bond, they have a saying in Chicago: ‘Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it’s enemy action.’

          — Ian Fleming, Goldfinger (1959)

        • theartistvvv says:

          Responding to Rayne, December 23, 2024 at 9:49 am CTST, I’m posting from Chicago:

          The first time the pres-elect does *anything*, it’s likely enemy action.

          (The media is quite capable of, three times in a row or more, of being dumb, misguided, or lazy, *etc*.)

  13. harpie says:

    Marcy:

    Think about that!
    Trump dodged his first impeachment by ginning up a politicized investigation of Biden and his kid, and that entire process has been memory holed!
    Gone!
    Poof!

    The 12/15/24 New York Young Republicans Club [NYYRC] gala began like this:

    Josh Kovensky: https://bsky.app/profile/joshkovensky.bsky.social/post/3ldf7b2ef5k2x
    December 15, 2024 at 8:43 PM

    I’m here at the NY Young Republican gala w @hunterw.bsky.social, as Raheem Kassam calls Trump the 45, 46, and 47 President to raucous applause on “46” [PHOTO]

    Yale “political scientist and Lecturer in Ethics, Politics, and Economics” Kevin Elliot responded:

    https://bsky.app/profile/kjephd.bsky.social/post/3ldgquq2gk22y
    December 16, 2024 at 11:31 AM

    Republicans already starting to put in the rhetorical work among themselves to elide the existence of the Biden administration in American historical memory, accomplishing among other things the direct fulfillment of the January 6th insurrection

    Spitballed about this here: [LINK]

    12/30/20 BANNON to TRUMP: We are going to kill the Biden Presidency in the crib.

    • Konny_2022 says:

      I read that as an admission to disregarding the 22nd Amendment of the Constitution. If Trump was elected a 2nd time in 2020, his election this year would be his 3rd and hence unconstitutional and invalid.

      But I’m just a naïve onlooker.

  14. RealAlexi says:

    We’re in a major bind. The media is in a major bind.

    We see the media as the advocates of truth; making them our allies who we don’t want to make our enemy via too much of a public flogging.

    Trump & Co. threaten the media and scare the hell out of them by screaming “lugenpress”, denying them access, or even editing video to have them charged with assault as was done to Jim Acosta when he refused to relinquish a microphone..

    It was no accident that Ceasar Sayoc sent those bombs to CNN.

    We are going to have to make it worse for the media each and every time they normalize the Trumpism. Every time they roll over they should be exposed. They are the enablers of EVERYTHING that’s come down the pike since Trump descended that escalator.

    ABC’s capitulation (I don’t give a rats ass if discovery bothered them; it’s not my problem. Their cowardice in the face of truth IS my problem), WaPo’s endorsement denial, LA Times endorsement denial etc etc are what got us here.

    Members of the media have achieved celebrity status and should be treated as such. When their movies suck they should get a very public two thumbs down.

    They should be humiliated, outed and satirized.

    The jokes they’ve become are more concerned with being liked or tolerated by the incoming King. They maintain access for income, the truth be damned.

    When the media are subject to SNL level humiliation each and every weekend for their milquetoast courage we’ll perhaps make some progress.

    IF they’ve got any shame left in the bucket.

  15. rosalind says:

    I’m struggling with how to counter anything with the complete degradation of our search engines, and the LLMs inserting fake crap into everything, where it is getting very hard to determine actual facts and truth. Judges, Reporters, Politicians, all of us absorbing fake “facts” and often mindlessly giving them oxygen.

    I have to constantly remind myself to “think before I link” on Bluesky. If I can’t access the original source and verify what’s being quoted is accurate, I don’t spread it. There is a viral piling on that occurs in all sorts of social media areas now that is not healthy, and when tempted to add fuel to the fire I need to step back and question “cui bono?”

    There is an interesting case playing out right now with actor Blake Lively, who was hit with a ton of bad publicity that got spread through tiktok and instagram posts a few months back. Evidence in a court case she just filed shows she was targeted by her co-star/director and his P.R. flacks to take her down and ruin her reputation. I’ve seen several young women post regrets that they fell for the negative press.

    Yet that negative press, as with Maggie and her fellow political press lapdogs output, is now scraped and codified into an endless misinformation loop that seemingly can’t be deleted from the information sources we rely on. *sigh*

    • rosalind says:

      of FFS! Just checked Bluesky and my feed is full of people re-posting “Jeff Bezos 600 million dollar wedding!!” over & over. Well somebody printed it somewhere, so it must be true right?

      Or, I don’t know, what is currently going on with Bezos and Amazon that he may want to deflect attention from? Like the spreading strikes at his sweatshop warehouses? The raw sewage his goons soaked the strikers with? Gosh, this “600 million dollar” story sure knocked the strike stories out of the headlines…

      • Ginevra diBenci says:

        Bezos might also still want to obviate the stain from his oh-so-bro-helpful gesture (via WaPo) in helping Trump get elected. A $600M wedding, though…what even IS that?

        • fatvegan000 says:

          Personal yachts as “wedding favors” for all the major players in the countries in which Amazon does business.

  16. Savage Librarian says:

    Spottin’ Cotton

    Cotton balls, soft like in Dali
    Fall la la la la la la la la
    ‘Tis the seizin’ : MAGAt folly
    Fall la la la la la la la la
    Don has them over a barrel
    Fall la la la la la la la la
    Trolls the ancient broadside peril
    Fall la la la la la la la la

    See foul play cesspools before us
    Fall la la la la la la la la
    Psych their carp, enjoin their chorus
    Fall la la la la la la la la
    Hollow out with countermeasures
    Fall la la la la la la la la
    Wile their tells with foolproof pressures
    Fall la la la la la la la la

    Fasten up your best field glasses
    Fall la la la la la la la la
    Nail the view, unclad the asses
    Fall la la la la la la la la
    Don’t destroy us at their pleasure
    Fall la la la la la la la la
    Do your jobs, deliver treasure
    Fall la la la la la la la la

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lT-KERIUx6w

    “Deck The Halls-Saxophone Instrumental-Rocksteady Version (Those Guys-The Sensations/The Supersonics)”

    • Ginevra diBenci says:

      And I was thinking I’d had my fill of Xmas music. But “…unclad the asses” indeed! Not even gonna try to keep myself from singing your words (out loud and everything), SL.

  17. wa_rickf says:

    This thread is an extremely articulate analysis of media’s relationship with false narratives used by lying, intellectually dishonest politicos (referred to as ‘Cotton Swabs’). Kudos.

  18. wetzel-rhymes-with says:

    “You are not going to defeat a Kash Patel or Pam Bondi nomination by asking for promises about political investigations.”

    The GOP would suck the wind out of the Democrats. Zoë Baird or Sister Souljah moments. Those moments were always unexpected. The nomination of Matt Gaetz has already been defeated. Now we need to see Pam Bondi defeated, but Trump and his boys already know these are charlatans and losers, so they are piñatas for us: Hegseth, Gaetz, JFK Jr., Patel, Oz, Bondi, Gabbard. Most will get through and they will be titular heads, a kind of “effigy”, “punching bag”, “lightning rod” or whatever, while the bureaus will run smoothly under some 2nd in command, some Claremont College fascist dork. These people are “pre-purged” in that there is no need for Trump to fire them later because the position is already vacant. They are already emptied out.

    Talk to Senor Pepe!

    Ask Senor Pepe what justifies the claim of safety or efficacy in a clinical study report? What is the meaning of a guilty verdict? What is the definition of a threat to national security?

  19. Zinsky123 says:

    Another superb post, Dr. Wheeler! Like so many of your posts on EW, I wish this were required reading for all federal elected officials! The Republican Party clearly is more effective at relentless, focused messaging around pointing out corruption or the appearance of corruption on the Left, while attenuating the corruption on the Right. The entire Durham investigation was predicated on phantasmagorical fictions. Great post!

  20. e.a. foster says:

    When I have watched some of these “interview/questioning” clips what I wonder is, why do the press even ask Trump and his, these questions. The press ought to know by now, what he is going to say and a lot of it will not be truthful, so why give him a platform. Now if these reporters are instructed to act in this manner by their employers, some one ought to say so. Most of the questions asked are simply set ups for Trump or one his to add the punch line. The press we see on T.V. is not press, its simply content so advertisers pay. It might be more effective to boycott the advertisers because the Republicans are not going to change their act. It works for them.
    Of course trump or Patel or whomever is going to lie and yes, I have no doubt the republicans will take a run at Liz Cheney and whomever else they want out of the way. It isn’t personal, its to send a message to any one who is thinking or may think about siding against Trump and the Republicans.
    To the reporters who continue to play the game with the Republicans, they might want to consider if Trump has been going around threatening Cheney, he will do it to them also, when they no longer are of use to the Republicans.
    None of this is going to end well.

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