Happy Delaware Laptop Day, for Those Who Celebrate

If I read the docket correctly, in a courtroom in Delaware today, Judge Robert Robinson will hear John Paul Mac Isaac’s motion to dismiss and Hunter Biden’s motion for summary judgement in the suit and countersuit over whether JPMI was legally entitled to first snoop through and then start disseminating data from a laptop JPMI claims to believe was dropped off by Hunter Biden, and whether a single statement Hunter Biden made about possibly being hacked that didn’t even name JPMI could be considered defamation.

Because CNN and Politico will also be arguing their motions to dismiss against the blind computer repairman in a follow-on to the same hearing, we might get some press coverage of the hearing. If not, it’s possible that a hearing that has the possibility of roiling 40 months of relentless Murdoch propaganda and both criminal cases against Hunter Biden will go uncovered.

No dick pic sniffer can control their glee that Hunter Biden has a deposition before Congress next week; they don’t seem to give a shit — or, even know — that a hearing that may determine the legal status of the laptop is happening today.

To mark the day, I wanted to return to a few details from Hunter Biden’s reply motion to compel from the other day.

First, on pages 3-4 in the section rebuking David Weiss for calling Keith Ablow’s photo of a photo of a table saw and sawdust a picture of Hunter Biden’s cocaine, the filing includes the text exchange explaining the photo.

2 The message excerpt on the following page is found on the data image provided to Mr. Biden by the prosecution (iPhoneXS_Chat_00000132). There is no Bates stamp for this material as discussed in Mr. Biden’s opening motion. (See Mot. at 18.)

The text appears to come from the iPhone XS that Gus Dimitrelos described as being encrypted on the device, along with a handy password stored right there on the laptop. Readers who have been following my voyage down the Hunter Biden rabbit hole will remember it all started when I read Gary Shapley’s notes indicating that the FBI, too, used a password discovered on the laptop to access the phone.

Laptop — iphone messages were on the hard drive but encrypted they didn’t get those messages until they looked at laptop and found a business card with the password on it so they were able to get into the iphone messages [my emphasis]

I opined at the time that, while the FBI might get away with accessing this encrypted device without a separate warrant, anyone else who accessed it — as Garrett Ziegler keeps confessing he did — may have committed a CFAA violation. Curiously, though, the FBI did get separate warrants for all the other devices backed up separately. That’s what the July 10, 2020 warrant did: permit the FBI to access four device backups that were already in hand, but that were separate backups.

Not this phone, though, the phone on which the photo of the photo of the table saw and sawdust that David Weiss claimed was cocaine might be found.

So on pages 3-4, Abbe Lowell explained that one place you might find Keith Ablow’s photo of the photo of the table saw and sawdust that Weiss misstook for cocaine was on a phone that was encrypted when the FBI first got the laptop.

Starting 16 pages later, Lowell returned to his request that prosecutors actually describe where they found particular pieces of evidence. Lowell explained that, yes, while it is true that last August he asked for an exact copy of the laptop, which “will be needed, for example, to challenge the chain of custody, provenance, or likely tampering with the data before it came into the possession of the government,” he also expected that prosecutors would provide some roadmap for where they’ve found things.

The prosecution mixes apples with oranges in charging that Mr. Biden is being “dishonest and misleading” in objecting to what the prosecution contends was a laptop it obtained being produced in the native format that he requested (Opp. at 19), but that is disingenuous. To be sure, Mr. Biden asked for an exact copy of the laptop so it could be examined in the same way in which it was originally found, which is helpful in making a forensic examination of the laptop. That will be needed, for example, to challenge the chain of custody, provenance, or likely tampering with the data before it came into the possession of the government.

However, this motion seeks something more—something traditionally provided in discovery. The crux of Mr. Biden’s complaint here is that the prosecution has not supplemented that production with an index or some other means that would identify which of the vast materials on the laptop the prosecution believes are relevant to this case. The request for the forensic copy is not the same. If the prosecution is claiming that it has not indexed the 220 gigabytes of data (which would be an odd statement), then it needsto say that, and, as with other requests, the dispute will end. If it does have what it normally has with vast amounts of e-data, without providing more, the defense is in a needle in a haystack situation.

Then he noted that the labels Derek Hines used for where investigators found things weren’t all that helpful, because those “titles [] are not even remotely descriptive of what they contain.”

This amount of mixed media data in this tech age is difficult to navigate. The text messages and photos cited by the prosecution in its motions, for example, are difficult to locate. They are “buried” in a convoluted collection of different backup folders and files and are not stored in one streamlined digital backup or application. The messages and photos cited come from “Apple iCloud Backup 01”; “Apple iTunes Backup”; “Apple iCloud Backup 04”; and “iTunes Backup (iPhone 11),” titles that are not even remotely descriptive of what they contain. (See DE 86-1.) For this reason, Mr. Biden requested an index of material (which the prosecution has now clarified it does not have), or Bates stamps for that which it had cited. (Opp. at 19.)

And not just what they contain, I’d add. The label, “iTunes Backup (iPhone 11),” which is where Hines described finding the photo of a photo of a table saw and sawdust almost certainly couldn’t be what Hines described it as — an iPhone 11 — because (as zscoreUSA noted) Apple didn’t announce the iPhone 11 until September 10, 2019, after the laptop was dropped off at JPMI’s shop and after a warrant was served on Apple.

I asked David Weiss’ spox about this, but it was another of a growing stack of questions of mine to which he didn’t even bother responding.

And Abbe Lowell — curse you! — isn’t much more help. Given his response that prosecutors have now fulfilled his request for guidance on where they found things, he must know whether iTunes Backup (iPhone 11) is that iPhone XS that was encrypted on the hard drive, but he’s not telling either.

In his opening motion, Mr. Biden merely requested, following the prosecution’s citation to myriad text messages and photos in its responses, that the prosecution indicate where on the image it provided Mr. Biden could find those referenced materials. (Mot. at 18.) The reason for this request was straightforward at the time: defense counsel could not locate certain of the messages and photos given the broad date ranges used by the prosecution to describe them (e.g., photos taken “Prior to October 12, 2018”; messages sent “prior to his gun purchase”; and photos taken “During November and December 2018”). (DE 86-1.) Mr. Biden appreciates that with the Exhibit filed with its opposition, the prosecution has now fulfilled this part of his request.

But Abbe Lowell did say this: at a meeting in August of last year, the first time when Lowell asked for a complete copy of the laptop (he had to ask again a month later), prosecutors told him that they had “independent sources” for everything helpful to their case.

As to the meeting between Mr. Biden’s counsel and prosecutors in Wilmington on August 29, 2023 (Opp. at 19), Mr. Biden notes that prosecutors indicated, during that meeting, that they possess “independent sources” for any material on the laptop device that would be helpful to the prosecution’s case, presumably referring to material subpoenaed from third parties, such as Apple, Inc. or various cellphone carriers. For this reason, it was curious to Mr. Biden’s counsel when reviewing the prosecution’s response that it elected to cite to and quote from messages and photos contained on the device it possessed (lacking any Bates stamps) rather than from those “independent sources” included in the discovery produced to the defense. That is precisely why Mr. Biden requested the prosecution indicate where on the device he could find the quoted messages and referenced photos, and why he suggested these files were “left buried” among a set of voluminous files that, as made clear now, span multiple iPhone, iTunes, and iCloud backups. (Opp. at 19 (quoting Mot. at 17).) Nevertheless, Mr. Biden appreciates the prosecution providing the folder locations of the messages and photos it referenced. [my emphasis]

Remember: when they said that on August 29, 2023, they still had never obtained a warrant to search the laptop, or any of Hunter’s Apple content, for that matter, for evidence to support the gun crime. They also had not, and still have not, indexed the laptop so they know what is on there and how it got there.

And prosecutors are still saying that everything they need is available on Hunter’s iCloud account. Sort of. In the passage of the response where Hines raised this August 2023 request, he insisted that, “the primary source of evidence in this case is the evidence obtained from the defendant’s Apple iCloud account, which was produced to the defendant in a readily searchable format.”

No. No it is not. Here’s my updated table of what Hines included in his exhibit, updated so that the photo of a photo of a table saw and sawdust appears where it temporally belongs, showing that an iPhone XS received a text from Keith Ablow on November 20, 2018, the same day that some anomalous activity was happening with Hunter’s droidhunter account and in a period when an iPad attributed to Hunter was otherwise sending (but with just one exception, not necessarily delivering) a whole bunch of texts about being an addict. I’ve highlighted the records that don’t include hex numbers and aren’t obviously sourced to one of the iCloud backups for dramatic effect. Lowell’s comment seems to confirm that Derek Hines sourced the highlighted records to the laptop.

In addition to the sawdust photo and one of a box that, a new commenter noted is also not from Hunter, it is from Hallie, and even if it indicates drug use, it is much earlier drug use, the most important texts to the government’s case, the ones between Hunter and Hallie while he possessed the gun, appear to be sourced to the laptop.

So in August, at a point when prosecutors had never gotten legal permission to search the laptop for evidence of gun crimes, they nevertheless assured Abbe Lowell that everything they needed was available via verifiable sources. And then this month — just days before a Delaware court may resolve the matter of whether JPMI owned the laptop when, he claims, an FBI agent told his father to lawyer up because, “You may be in possession of something you don’t own” — Hines claimed that, “the primary source of evidence in this case is the evidence obtained from the defendant’s Apple iCloud account, which was produced to the defendant in a readily searchable format.”

And then he sourced the most important texts to his case to the laptop — a source that not only isn’t readily searchable, but is not even indexed.

Happy Delaware laptop day, everyone. Things might start to get interesting.

Update: The docket reflects that Judge Robinson reserved judgment on Hunter Biden’s motion for summary judgment and CNN and Politico’s motions to dismiss.

Update: NBC’s Gary Grumbach did a thread on the hearing. By his description, Hunter Biden will kill the suit against him easily (unsurprisingly, as he didn’t even mention JPMI’s name). But Grumbach didn’t include much of what must be a legal discussion about JPMI’s decision to release the information to Rudy.

Update, from comments: A detailed local report on the hearing, providing the detail that the biggest problem for Hunter’s claims are that he waited too long to sue.

Illustration of all the dissemination implicated in today’s hearing from Thomas Fine.

Click here for Hunter Biden’s Eight Legal Chessboards including links to all filings and schedules for other cases, including the Delaware lawsuit.

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  2. MissyDC says:

    Dan Goldman was on tv last night saying now that we know GOP’s “very credible witness” has admitted to lying about his claims and may even be a Russian asset, if Comer and gang try to go through with impeachment (based on lies) they could be criminally liable.

    Is that true and would DOJ even go there?

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    • BobBobCon says:

      You won’t get a meaningful response to a question so vague as that.

      It would be helpful to get an actual quote and a link rather than just a very rough recollection. And even then, the way TV works it’s entirely possible there isn’t enough shown to judge what’s being said or what the merits are.

      It’s incredibly easy for statements to be incorrectly presented or pulled out of context, and asking for snap judgments on a complicated subjects is an easy way to generate even more confusion, which is something people should avoid in subjects like this.

      • Peterr says:

        The question is more or less this: “If Comer et al. continue to push these lies, having been warned by the FBI and DOJ that they are lies being pushed by Russian intelligence, does that make them criminal co-conspirators in a scheme to meddle in the 2024 election?”

        • BobBobCon says:

          Attributing that to Goldman without a good cite, though, is a problem.

          Political reporters are often just as bad as entertainment reporters trying to generate imaginary beef between Taylor Swift and some random hip hop star. We’ve seen an endless array of White House reporters recently trying to maneuver Karine Jean-Pierre into supposedly confirming their imagined stories about Biden dropping out. With Taylor Swift it’s relatively harmless, with impeachment who actually said something and what the full context is matters.

        • earthworm says:

          what kind of editor lets this pass? e.g.; copied & pasted from CNN: “Rep. Ken Buck (R-CO) told CNN GOP lawmakers were warned about the credibility of the information from a key informant in their investigation to impeach President Biden, who has been discredited and charged with lying to the FBI. Democratic lawmakers are now calling on Republicans to end their inquiry.”
          “who has been discredited and charged with lying to the FBI.” should have been placed after KEY INFORMANT,’ not after “President Biden.”

        • kafka_22FEB2024_1605h says:

          I have doubts the work of editing could ever be automated away, much like comment moderation.

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        • Peterr says:

          I wasn’t attributing it to Goldman specifically. I was trying to refocus the vaguely worded question you found problematic.

          It’s a version of what I heard from a different lawyer yesterday, musing aloud at the possible problems these republican members of Congress might face if they continue pushing Russian intelligence falsehoods despite them being debunked as such by the FBI.

          But let’s say the Speech and Debate Clause gives them an out. Does (for example) a Fox commentator become a co-conspirator if they uncritically accept these statements by Comer et al, without providing any pushback?

          Asking for a friend Robert “I don’t want to hear about Dominion ever again” Murdoch and his family.

        • HikaakiH says:

          Young Lachlan M. is in the hot seat now, although I don’t think he will do anything his father doesn’t want him to do.

      • MissyDC21 says:

        Here is the clip from Alex Wagner Tonight on her X.
        https://twitter.com/WagnerTonight/status/1760493123866595556

        The exact exchange was:
        Dan Goldman: “If they [House GOP] continue with this investigation they are opening themselves up to a criminal investigation for conspiring with Russia to interfere in the election.”

        Alex Wagner: “Do you think there is an appetite inside the Department of Justice to look into this? At that level?”

        My question is, is Goldman’s claims correct? And I echo Alex, does anyone think DOJ would do this?

        • scroogemcduck says:

          I would expect this falls firmly under the Speech and Debate clause. I doubt anyone in the House could be charged for anything that could reasonably fall under an impeachment inquiry, even if it means investigating disinformation planted by enemies of the US. The remedy for that is voting.

        • HikaakiH says:

          The level of awareness of the Rep.s involved will be tested when they go to speak outside of formal House proceedings, like press conferences and interviews on TV that do not provide Speech and Debate immunity for them, nor for the broadcasters.
          Question for lawyerly types: Is the legal exposure really about “election interference” or is there exposure under the Espionage Act for pushing known falsehoods promulgated by unfriendly foreign sources?

        • mickquinas says:

          “The remedy for that is voting.”

          I want it on a T-shirt, a billboard, bumper stickers.

          This is the requirement for so much.
          Creeping fascism? Vote while you still have a democracy.
          Government inaction, dysfunction? Etc., etc., etc.

    • Ebenezer Scrooge says:

      @ MissyDC: Probably not. The Speech and Debate Clause protects Congress-critters from almost anything they say or do on the floor of Congress. It’s a license to slander.

      • Shadowalker says:

        Plus the power of impeachment is bestowed solely in the House, with few restrictions. Technically they could define what is a high crime or misdemeanor that is already not specified. The framers thought this might happen so they used the Senate for the impeachment trial as a check on an overzealous House. Remember when that clause was written, Senators were appointed by the state(s) legislature and the House was deemed to be more political nature from the masses.

        • earlofhuntingdon says:

          Why would the House hem itself in, when “high crimes and misdemeanors” are already defined by the political will of a House majority?

        • Shadowalker says:

          Because that’s what the Constitution allows. When they impeached President Johnson, they impeached him first, the Senate sent it back saying we need to know what he’s being impeached for, a week later they sent 11 articles of impeachment including being “loud” (essentially saying bad things about them).

          excerpt article 10
          “ before as afterwards, make and declare, with a loud voice, certain intemperate, inflammatory and scandalous harangues, and therein utter loud threats and bitter menaces, as well against Congress as the laws of the United States duly enacted thereby, amid the cries, jeers and laughter of the multitudes then assembled in hearing, which are set forth in the several specifications hereinafter written, in substance and effect, that it to say:”

          He was acquitted barely by one vote on the first article and the rest were summarily dismissed.

        • Shadowalker says:

          They still have to follow their rules which are governed by parliamentary procedure. Those procedures are so complicated that each house has on staff a parliamentarian.

      • fatvegan000 says:

        When people like Jordan and Comer go on Fox and lie, that’s not covered by speech and debate is it?

        I mean, if they continue to push these same lies and they do it on TV, that’s not the House floor, so can’t they be held accountable then?

    • Rugger_9 says:

      The Comer Clown Committee leadership will hide behind the Speech and Debate Clause which may require a trip to SCOTUS to resolve. I can’t see any prosecution succeeding regardless of how guilty they are.

      I also note that Lev Parnas has surfaced to say he told DoJ about this Smirnov problem in 2019 (when Defendant-1 and Barr were in the saddle). That might prove to be awkward, and FWIW, the NYT only put this on Page A16.

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  3. Capemaydave says:

    Thanks to your analysis I get the feeling a house of cards moment is about to occur – the rest of America will see the MAGA crowd’s flimsy basis.

    • zeke di leo says:

      It would be great if that were true, but it’s hard to imagine that this will move the needle even remotely. If we’ve learned nothing else over these last long years (and we haven’t), it’s that 1) the MAGA crowd doesn’t care, and 2) Joe Biden is old.

    • Troutwaxer says:

      I’m getting the same feeling, and it has two parts.

      Part One is intuitive; the feeling of things moving below the surface, possibly a counter-intelligence investigation or someone high in Trump’s circle having quietly turned state’s evidence, possibly the mass media preparing a U-turn in their coverage of Democrats vs. Republicans… I can feel it and it’s big.

      Part Two is the practical side:

      1.) Given reasonable assumptions about Weiss’s motivations Smirnov’s arrest puts Weiss in a very uncomfortable position. When you have to arrest your own source/possible witness for lying to the FBI your case is in horrible shape. (And the table saw, etc., didn’t help.)

      2.) Is Smirnov’s arrest Weiss’s response to Part One?

      3.) Where Weiss’s case is concerned it’s clear that a lot of his evidence was taken badly out of context. Lowell is going to put that evidence right back into context, which will suck for Weiss.

      4.) Comer has conceded that an impeachment of Biden won’t happen, and I suspect that Biden’s hearing in front of Comer’s committee will be much less pleasant for Comer/Jordan/etc. than they expect. Also note that the House GOP doesn’t have anything resembling a functional majority and their speaker will shortly have to choose between being the guy who bankrupted the US government or losing the speakership.

      5.) I’d guess the tradecraft practiced by the GOP’s Russian tools is pretty bad, and that they’ve left evidence of their crimes in places where a boy scout with a magnifying glass could find them. If a quiet counter-intelligence operation is happening they’ll be easy meat.

      In short, all the elements necessary to turn things around in a major way are present if someone with enough power chooses to pull the levers… and at this point why wouldn’t Biden pull the levers?

      • Bugboy321 says:

        My mind is blown by Smirnov’s arrest as well. What could possibly be Wiess’ motivations? “Do the right thing” hasn’t been high on my list of possibilities with these guys…

        • Bugboy321 says:

          That implies consciousness that he screwed up. I’m not so sure he hasn’t been a true believer all along.

        • SteveBev says:

          Burning a CHS is a big deal. Even if Weiss is convinced of his own rectitude, the chronology of events suggests that this mess could and perhaps should have been addressed/averted/managed better at an earlier stage. Weiss is going to want to avoid any flak. And I am pretty suspicious about his conduct and decision making.

        • Shadowalker says:

          The CHS was compromised and probably turned to a double agent. Whatever value he had was gone. The fact he had turned and was undetected for so long is the real concern.

        • Shadowalker says:

          He’s been passing on the Putin inspired dirt since at least 2017 and from the indictment is doing it for the upcoming election.

        • ToldainDarkwater says:

          Many of these people think they are doing the right thing. Probably Comer thinks he’s doing the right thing, even though he also knows he’s being, er, tricksy.

          Most prosecutors, in my admittedly limited experience, have a pretty strong sense of righteousness. Other people here would know better than I. So if you don’t temper that with a bit of humility, you become a relentless partisan hound while still thinking you are a loyal American.

          So if some counter-intelligence investigation got the goods on Smirnov, and some spook walked into Weiss’ office and told him the score, he might turn suddenly.

          The other theory is that Weiss has known about Smirnov’s activities for a while, and the discovery motions of Hunter’s attorney Abbe Lowell were about to bring that to light, so he’s “getting ahead of the story”. This is the “Weiss is a political animal” theory. As opposed to my “Weiss thinks he’s righteously pursuing justice and America’s interests”.

          Either could be true. Maybe both could be true.

        • Bugboy321 says:

          That sounds plausible, although I think the “Oh damn, a spook just fingered my star witness, I better do something about that” might be a bit more on the nose. Thanks for that.

        • SB317overthere says:

          Republicans leaking the FD-1023 put his feet to the fire. Investigate or they’d ruin him publicly. Unfortunately for The GOP it blew up in their own stupid faces.

      • RipNoLonger says:

        Troutwaxer and Capemaydave: Thanks for your interesting and possibly hopeful thoughts about where this may be going.

        It seems about the right time for another “February Surprise” to be sprung so the media can run off in that direction instead.

      • vigetnovus says:

        Funny you say that, because for me, that moment seemed to happen about a month ago. Right around the time DOJ busted the Iranian assassination group from Canada. Which was also right around the time the Hunter Biden warrants were unsealed.

    • Bugboy321 says:

      There was always going to be a “jump the shark” moment, and maybe multiple moments the way our MSM operates. It isn’t a matter of “if” so much as “when”, and the sense that something has changed is unmistakable. Maybe wishful thinking, but in my honest opinion, the tide began to turn when Trump was boasting about an endorsement from some mobster.

    • fatvegan000 says:

      Just who in the FBI or DOJ is going to knock the “house of cards” over?

      Nothing I read here gives me any confidence that will ever happen.

    • Purple Martin says:

      For the last couple of weeks, I’ve been having that feeling of lots of different threads coming together into a thicker and thicker piece of yarn (maybe winding up in Marcy’s Big Ball of String). It’s something that hasn’t happened before.

      It may be motivated reasoning getting the better of me, but the feeling is something like in Hemingway’s The Sun Also Rises, when formerly rich Mike describes how he went bankrupt:

      Two ways,” Mike said. “Gradually and then suddenly.”

  4. Yogarhythms says:

    Marcy,
    There are inklings. Then there is @Emptywheel.net. The world is her oyster. Slurping the best cracked seafood with just the right amount of sauce is delivered to the buffet table for all. Thank you for your excellent carving touch the evidence is fillet’d with perfection in today’s Delaware courtroom.

  5. earthworm says:

    usual dumb question from me: How could the “independent sources” have received the evidence, legally, prior to the warrant?
    Isn’t there a discrepancy between the date Aug 29, 2023/warrant to search and the prosecution’s volunteering evidence from “independent sources”?

    • Peterr says:

      An email has a sender and a receiver. If Hunter was one of these and the DOJ got an email from the one that wasn’t Hunter, that would be an independent source. Independent in this context means “independent of Hunter.”

      Not saying this is what happened, but that’s what I believe the language means.

  6. earlofhuntingdon says:

    So, according to Ablow’s message, one of his patients sent him that photo of a photo of sawdust, and characterizes his message, “I’ve made my choice,” as expressing his choice of work over drugs.

    The prosecution reverses the overt characterization HB’s psychiatrist attributes to that image, claims the choice was drugs over work, that that was HB’s choice, and that the lines in the photo are really cocaine, not sawdust – despite their hefty brown appearance and that they are on a table saw, an unlikely object over which to bend your head to hoover up a line.

    I hope the court, and jury, if it gets that far, find the prosecution’s claims as unbelievable and self-serving as I do.

    • emptywheel says:

      I would say, of course it’d never be admitted. But Weiss probably has only a handful of people who’ve been sheep dipped off the PRIOR abusive investigative fuck-ups. Meaning the Feeb with his name on the warrant return may be 1) responsible and 2) expected to take the stand to validate all this.

      • Troutwaxer says:

        I would expect Lowell to make short work of that particular Feeb, and that Weiss knows this. But it might be the only hand Weiss has to play. It’s really hard to tell right now.

        • punaise says:

          It was a Feeb-y Snow job:

          Oh, oh, talk to me some more
          You don’t have to go
          You’re the poetry man
          You make things all crime, yeah, yeah

        • Savage Librarian says:

          Swayed ol’ Weiss, Swayed ol’ Weiss,
          With suborning browbeat me,
          Out of sight, mean and tight,
          Trigger happy to cheat me.

          This sum of snow
          you made bloom and grow,
          Bloom and grow forever,
          Swayed ol’ Weiss, Swayed ol’ Weiss,
          Bless what withstands forever.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yj5IqDx4Z9U

          “André Rieu – Edelweiss”

        • punaise says:

          Love it! But *thanks* for the earworm now.

          How do you solve a problem like Mac Isaac?
          How do you catch iCloud and pin it down?
          How do you find a word that means pariah?
          A flibbertijibbet! A will-o’-the wisp! A clown!

        • earlofhuntingdon says:

          You two could perform in a family of singers. I hear there’s a lodge near Stowe that might be hiring.

      • Shadowalker says:

        I would hope they have more than “trust us, it is because we say it is”. Like, say chemical analysis of the evidence with full chain of custody records.

    • zscoreUSA says:

      The image produced as a piece of art is not expressing “choice of work over drugs,” but of choosing art over drugs.

      • earlofhuntingdon says:

        Tomato, tomahto. The point was the prosecutor’s outlandish characterization of the facts. As for whether a carpenter would rely on art or work as salvation from drug dependence, we’ll have to disagree. It doesn’t matter to the legal case.

  7. JAFO_NAL says:

    “showing that an iPhone XS received a text from Keith Ablow on November 20, 2018, the same day that some anomalous activity was happening with Hunter’s droidhunter account and in a period when an iPad attributed to Hunter was otherwise sending (but with just one exception, not necessarily delivering) a whole bunch of texts about being an addict. ”

    Given that the FBI failed to follow basic forensic data custody practices and didn’t index or provide complete metadata for evidence Weiss submitted, it seems like they could also miss steganograhic malware embedded in a photo that would allow remote access to the device.

  8. wetzel-rhymes-with says:

    I do not want to approach Twitter with a paranoid style, however justified, and Rayne, if you decide not to publish this, that’s okay, I guess. I don’t think you’re in on it. What happened is this morning both @joshtpm and @emptywheel, were ‘muted’ in Twitter. I had to unset this. I learned this when I tried to figure out why a reply to @joshtpm that had @emptywheel, and a reply to @JoyceCarolOates with @emptywheel about the NY Times are both missing. One of those replies actually went to two digits in likes, my 2nd ever. It was a source of happiness, so I do not want to sound like some kind of dope, but I feel I should write at the risk of getting over my skies. I do not want to say there is something afoot at Twitter to deboost the Smirnov affair in this manner. I’m just putting this out in case other emptywheel readers who post there might notice a sign of something afoot on Twitter, and this post might give them an anchor in a common experience. I do not think it’s likely my individual Twitter account has been hacked or a family member made the changes. I’m a nobody, and so I live as though it’s not worthwhile to make it impossible for somebody to know its me when I comment about things on the internet, maybe too much!! It was disturbing to me and might be relevant for emptywheel. I try to remember Elon Musk is a human being, but people infantilize him too much.

    • ExRacerX says:

      He’s infantile AND has his tongue up fascists’ buttholes. Examples abound, but here’s one of each:

      1) Musk called a professional cave rescuer a pedophile simply because the man wouldn’t use Musk’s submarine, which was entirely unsuited to the task at hand.

      2) More recently,”X” suspended the account of Yulia Navalnya (Alexei Navalny’s widow).

      • wetzel-rhymes-with says:

        Musk’s has learned he is immune to social shame, like Trump, and this gives him the same kind of master of ceremonies position in the mob to create its norms. Like Trump his immunity to taboos as is a part of the propaganda of his “greatness”. He can say anything.

        Nobody can satisfactorily answer why Musk invested half the book value of Twitter in a “loss” to own it. Maybe he thinks Oceania will get us to Mars if people are living under nuclear terror or some damn thing. He is full out as nuts as Putin in my opinion, but you wouldn’t infantilize Vladimir Putin, and like with the suspension of Navalny’s widow’s account after three posts three days after his death, recent documented Starlink use by Russian forces, and his promotion of Tucker Carlson, it looks from the outside Twitter is becoming a vehicle for Russia on Musk’s behalf, or it might just be the new normal for GOP messaging on Twitter. What I saw today felt uncanny, though. There will be economy of scale with secret AI for advanced algorthmic planning for attitude shifts and information segregation, so maybe it was just innocent like that, what I saw earlier in my own account.

        • Matt___B says:

          Seems like Tucker was both “promoted” and then “demoted” by Vlad. IOW, a highly-visible useful idiot.

        • wetzel-rhymes-with says:

          Putin made Tucker his Court Jester on TV before springing something terrible on him afterwards like somebody sat next to Tucker at the table with Vladimir across and and after a short blasé discussion in Russian cuts his own finger off, drinks a shot of vodka, and the guy and Putin laugh it off and as Putin walks him out, Tucker has joined in with that maniacal laugh of his which goes on too long as Putin turns around and frowns thoughtfully, “Would you like to go out on the town?”

        • wetzel-rhymes-with says:

          Still blackout on my Twitter Home and For You Tab on the Smirnov Affair. Cannot reset @joshtpm to unmute though it worked for Marcy. I had a reply there rising in a small way and so it looks like all that got kind of flushed. Twitter can either engender virality or abort. That’s how it looks here in the navel of the Twitter universe, a technology could prove very useful around the world. Maybe he has a technology partnership with China and algorithms aren’t home grown. Weeding things before they can sprout so I’m a nut in a rut. I’m cracked and that’s a fact. It’s plain that I’m insane.

    • M00n_silverside says:

      Hear-hear! This kind of thing is ubiquitous (nuisance harassment of unknown provenance) :'(. (“I don’t want to sound paranoid but…”).

      How many perfectly reasonable, sane individuals experience this kind of anomalous–but malicious in its origination–sort of thing and can say or do nothing for obvious reasons? arg

      I never comment but may have in the past, who knows what username I used, I’ll stick with this. MW used to cover a cousin of this kind of cyber-crap a long time ago. Sorry if this comment is crap, I really don’t stack up here but I visit every day, it’s an indispensable resource and I appreciate you all, contributing to improving my newtbrain with culture and education!

      By the way, OT but does anyone know what ever happened to Arjen Kamphuis it’s all so depressing lol I mean POOF and that was it, he was gone

    • Tech Support says:

      My normal instinct is to apply both Occam’s Razor and the “malice vs. stupidity” rule to these types of situations.

      That said, I think we have ample prior evidence to show that Elon would 100% issue micro-managing instructions to engage in crypto-censorship.

      Bluesky no longer requires an invitation. I don’t know if TPM is there, but EW certainly is.

  9. Sussex Trafalgar says:

    I’m eager to see Judge Robert Robertson’s rulings! And then there’s Judge Noreika’s upcoming rulings as well!

  10. Krisy Gosney says:

    I have been on the edge of my seat lately while reading your posts, EW. It’s been like a spy novel. And while getting the factual facts. Thank you!!

    I keep having the same question come in my head when I read about The Laptop and JPMI- does any place that services computers take ownership of the physical device or the contents connected to the device? Because if the content is on iCloud or iTunes then that content is on those services not really is it in the physical device. Like if I left my house key with a key copier, after a few months is that place entitled to throw away my key or to use the key to go into my house and look through my things? And bring others in to look at my things?

  11. Mike from Delaware says:

    I’m more of a Happy Honda days kinda’ guy, but I’ll tip a pint in celebration. Happy Delaware Laptop Day everyone, please celebrate responsibly.

  12. AtLeastEightCharacters says:

    I’ve been trying to follow the JPMI litigation, with very little success, since June 2023. Part of it was with Judge Noreika for a bit (and therefore on Courtlistener), but the interesting part went back to the Delaware Superior Court, where it’s gotten almost literally no media attention; just a couple stories in June saying that depositions had occurred and a few (right wing) ones in September about JPMI’s motion to strike the counterclaim.

    The Court itself seems to be trying to keep this secret. Is it even happening? The case docket says there are four motion hearings today, but there’s no mention of it on the Court’s daily schedule. What gives?

    Has anybody been able to find anything on this (other than on, e.g., Westlaw, which’d charge like $600 per document for motion materials)?

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  13. The Old Redneck says:

    It’s tempting to think that things are unravelling for Weiss even faster than they did for Durham. But I’m not so sure. Judges often find a way around suppression motions, and vindictive/selective prosecution motions almost never succeed. Always looming in the background is the fact that Hunter traded on the family name for huge sums of money – which normal people who have to work for a living really hate.

    Regardless of what happens, though, Lowell deserves some credit. He has really taken a scalpel, rather than a bludgeon, to his opponents in the motion papers so far. It will indeed be interesting to see what happens (though we probably won’t find out anything right away).

    • SteveBev says:

      But here there is a difference in the selective/vindictive claim: Hunter Biden’s investigation and prosecution was always and at every turn pressured from the outside as part of a wider politically motivated project in which Hunter was the proxy target. And that project crossed all branches of government and consisted of evidence manufactured by political partisans, and a hostile foreign power, involved senior echelons of the DOJ, and the abuse of congressional procedures using same fabricated evidence.However unsympathetic one might be to his personal failings and faults, his treatment has been an outrage. All in service of the duplicitous and vindictive ends of the man who is properly indicted for his attempt cling on to power in breach of the constitution, and for whom retribution against his perceived enemies is his campaign slogan for his attempt to return to power.

    • wetzel-rhymes-with says:

      The cat is halfway out of the bag in the court filings on record. They can try to strangle it or drown it, but it’s all coming out now, I think, because the pressure to bring everything to light will grow through feedback, and the Hunter Biden case has to make the News one way or the other. It’s no longer going to be Hunter Biden’s Scandalous Laptop, but the Scandal of Hunter Biden’s Laptop, but the way we get information hasn’t adjusted yet. It has been building up to a big catharsis, but somebody spilled blood on the altar (Smirnov, you dumbass!) and so the chorus is starting to sing they are all screwed. I think Weiss sees he has only two choices in game theory, the scape-goat or he can try to direct the ceremonious disgrace of Bob Barr, so if I were his publicist I think Weiss should make the choice to go the John Dean route. He’s eventually going to talk to the Senate. Come forward to expose what happened with Rosen now, I think, but first we let Woodward and Washington Post and Haberman NY Times negotiate for the book tour, and get the ghost writer through clearance review, but then Weiss will find out some way Bob Barr is a Made Man.

    • emptywheel says:

      What criminalizes trading on one’s family name, and how is that remotely related to tax and gun charges?

      • The Old Redneck says:

        It’s not criminal. My point was simply that if jurors dislike it, it could Influence what they do with the criminal charges. In other words, Hunter could start out with a strike against him.

      • Shadowalker says:

        Along with a significant portion of the business community. Heck, you could probably lock up some currently sitting congress critters.

    • CaptainCondorcet says:

      What percentage of die-hard MAGA supporters even read a House-sponsored webpage? This was a good CYA move by some staffer, but it’s almost comical that they felt the need to put it up there in the first place. The entire thing is explicitly designed for 30 word headlines on social media, 3-minute clips on Fox News, and 3+ hours of blathering by conservative radio/cable talk show hosts.

  14. CaptainCondorcet says:

    I can’t help but wonder at the timing of things. Never assume anything other than coincidence without prior evidence, but we are about to have news clips of Democratic members of Congress truthfully noting on live TV that the basis for much of the GOP targeting of Hunter Biden was found to be lies from an informant received through Russian spies. This isn’t going to shake the MAGA tree, but low-engagement non-affiliated voters are likely going to cling onto that more than “Biden is forgetful”. Just interesting timing that one goose-hunt SC is about to entirely trivialize another.

    • ColdFusion says:

      The problem for them is it sounded like the judge was going to allow Lowell to dig into *all* the evidence not just what Weiss wanted to mention. This was going come out with evidence that it was known to be lies and charges were pursued anyway. This way Weiss kind of gets ahead of things in the media but in court it’s going to be a shitshow. Make some popcorn.

  15. Bobster33 says:

    Keith Olbermann is claiming all kinds of Russia collusion on his latest podcast. For starters, he claims that Smirnov is flipping to the US to protect his butt. Olbermann follows up with the the charge to investigate the Russian agents in our government (namely Comer, Jordan and Weiss himself).

    I am sure that you could write at least 3 Hollywood movie scripts from his harangue. Anyway, it offers some interesting theories for the conspiracy minded.

    • vigetnovus says:

      If Smirnov is actually cooperating, not detaining him is a huge mistake.

      Also, speaking of potential Russian assets, what’s with DeSantis’ remarks about the AT&T fiasco today? “Nice cellular network you’ve got there, shame if something happened to it when you most needed it….” Is that a threat?

        • FLwolverine says:

          According to a CNN report on DeSantis’ press conference:

          “You think about just your daily life, like having cell phones, honestly, it’s like, imagine if we had like an EMP attack or something like that would end up happening this country,” DeSantis said. “It’s not necessarily a good thought, because you think you’re just so naturally reliant on having cell service (…) so it’s a little bit jarring and think about the implications if something like that happened on much grander scale.”

          Vigetnovus’s interpretation may be a bit paranoid.

        • vigetnovus says:

          Not that anyone will likely read this, but yeah it’s a little paranoid, especially after we hear about a classified briefing suggesting a hostile nation is trying to develop exactly that for satellites in space. I mean, nothing to see here, amirite?

          I’m also 100% sure that the other cyberattack on Optum was just a huge coincidence too.

      • Ithaqua0 says:

        In the early 2000s, he was pretty good, but when he became somewhat famous, he just started going downhill, and I haven’t read anything by him in probably over 10 years.

      • Mutaman111 says:

        “Olbermann, as he has very long been, is full of puffed up shit. ”

        We learned that when he was attacking HRC.

  16. Philip Munger says:

    A Devlin Barrett article at the Washington Post sort of covers Smirnov’s current troubles:
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/02/22/fbi-informant-biden-smirnov-arrest/

    It actually appears to have made page one.

    I commented:

    “Bloggers such as Marcy Wheeler at emptywheel and Josh Marshal at TalkingPointsMemo have been onto this story for awhile. Particularly Dr. Wheeler. Dr. Wheeler has pursued this story assiduously as it has developed over the past eight or nine years. What you write here barely scratches the surface. Are you in denial, or are you happy doing a lousy job?

    “Your both sides isms are failing our democracy almost every day. Wake up, please, and catch up. I’d recommend you assign a small team of experts on your staff, if you even employ such people, and read every article Dr. Wheeler has published on this subject, have a meeting to digest what they learn, and put on your investigative journalist duds.”

  17. earlofhuntingdon says:

    H/t to Hugo Lowell for noting this nineteen page Motion to Dismiss Carlos de Oliveira from the Trump documents case before Judge Cannon, filed today. He is charged in Counts 33 and 40-42 of Smith’s Superseding Indictment. De Oliveira must be the only person more obtuse than Lara Trump.

    This line of reasoning is typical: “Even limiting this analysis to the four corners of the Superseding Indictment and assuming at this early stage that its allegations are true and viewed in a light most favorable to the Government….” (MTD, p. 5.) That’s a backhanded admission that he is required to assume those things for purposes of this MTD.

    De Oliveira’s objection to Count 42, the false statement charge, is curious, in that de Oliveira said “No” and “Never saw anything,” to the FBI interviewer’s questions before he finished asking them. One might imply from that a lack of candor.

    https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.648652/gov.uscourts.flsd.648652.323.0.pdf

    Here’s another copy of Smith’s Superseding Indicment:

    https://d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.net/static/2023/07/gov.uscourts.flsd_.648652.85.0_2.pdf

  18. Maryelle says:

    “A thumb drive handed by a foreign national to an aide traveling with then-Secretary of State Mike Pompeo in 2019 suggests that efforts by Russia-linked actors to influence the 2020 US presidential election with Hunter Biden disinformation began earlier and were broader in scope than has previously been reported.”

    “…The revelation about Rollie’s thumb drive comes shortly after the indictment of Smirnov, for allegedly making false statements about Hunter Biden in June 2020. Like Smirnov, Rollie’s materials accuse Hunter Biden of involving his father in Burisma’s business and committing a vast off-the-books fraud.”

    https://i.insider.com/65d7e32f6080194819f998af
    Above link to photo of “Former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo with “Rollie,” a former KGB agent, at a Claremont Institute (John Eastman) gala on May 11, 2019. That evening, Rollie passed a thumb drive containing disinformation about Hunter Biden and Burisma to a Pompeo aide.” Photo obtained by BI
    https://www.businessinsider.com/a-russia-linked-campaign-to-spread-dirt-about-hunter-biden-and-burisma-2024-2

  19. zscoreUSA says:

    What does encrypted mean in this case? Just password protected? The same password as the Apple ID password? Could a fingerprint or swipe PIN or push notification to a Trusted Device or a verification code to a trusted mobile number also allow access?

    I need to learn about how these newfangled iPhones work, with their fancy iClouds and what-not.

    Seems wierd the prosecutors didn’t get a warrant for a backup of that iPhone XS that Dimitrelos reports as backed up to the Mac Isaac laptop.

    Also, I’m not convinced yet that Hunter used that actual XS , in the same way I’m not convinced Hunter was the user of the Mac Isaac laptop that had all of his data on it.

    Though I’m pretty sure he was using an iPhone XS beginning October 13 using the 2nd DC number as his primary phone for the next few months.

    • HikaakiH says:

      Just as Dr Wheeler is a rockstar for bringing us the details that make sense of the deliberate nonsense, you have been strumming some great bass riffs that help us get what’s going on.
      Thank you. And keep going.

    • EuroTark says:

      As you’re probably painfully aware, “encrypted” has become some sort of buzzword that’s devoid of meaning, but here’s a quick primer for those that don’t understand why some of snark at the mere mention.

      Encryption is a tool in the world of Cryptography which is used to protect information (typically text) from prying eyes. There are many different ways this can be done, which can be divided into broad families and distinct cipher. All forms of encryption use one or more secret key for protection, and keeping these secret while distributing them to those that need can be a challenge. Some ciphers are better and worse than others, but they are all encompassed by the term “encryption”. As usual the devil is in the details, and how you implement the cipher can be just as important.

      One of the ancient ciphers is Caesar cipher, which is a simple rotation cipher in which you substitute characters by rotating them a given number of places, and the only key possible is how many places you rotate by (3 for Caesar) giving rise to the “double-ROT-13” joke (in which you rotate 2×13 = 26 places). If this piques your interest, I can recommend Simon Singh’s Code Book as a primer on the history of cryptography (just ignore the last chapters on modern technology).

      While nobody sane will implement a simple rotation cipher, there are both various homegrown (and thus unproven) ciphers in use, as well as badly implemented good ciphers, or properly implemented broken ciphers (such as 3DES, which is brute-force-able by a late 90s pentium computer).

      In the context of mobile computers (“phones”) this usually means using the symmetric-key cipher AES, which is secure. The key to access it is something else though, especially if you have biometrics enabled. The system would then usually store your key somewhere in it’s own secure storage, adding other vulnerabilites. Marcy has eluded to this earlier regarding Tarrio’s phones: access to them were protected by screen-lock PIN and not biometrics, and modern phones have a hard limit on how fast you are allowed to try new codes, which means even an 8-digit code can take a long time to exhaust (trying every combination).

    • emptywheel says:

      It’s a different password, apparently.
      What’s interesting about the table above is that the phone on which the Ablow text was received appears different than the phone on which he was texting Hallie. And then the iPad that was backed up (I have my suspicions about that one too, based on its age and prior decommissioning) was being used for texting in the same period.

      There’s not a good explanation for why both phones weren’t saved to the iCloud but the iPad was.

      • zscoreUSA says:

        How do you know the Ablow text was received on a different phone than the Hallie chat conversation?

        On 10/13 Hunter begins using an iPhone XS. Hunter uses an iPhone XS for the next few months.

        On 10/13 the first text message appears on the backup file, which is literally Hunter saying he’s using that phone until receives the other phones. And Hallie freaked out because she thinks Hunter’s ex-wife just texted her that message out of the blue, the 2nd DC number. This is the primary number he uses the next few months, including with Ablow’s office.

        Buuuuutttt, on the text chat file from the 2/6 backup that 2nd DC number number appears on the left side in some of the conversations indicating that it wasn’t the same phone backed up, which was also an XS. (Different XS device or same one? Dimitrelos doesn’t record all devices that connect to the Apple ID)

        This is why I keep bringing up the phone he places under Hallie’s car seat, and when. There could be a device out there connected to Hunter’s Apple account that could theoretically be intercepted to get Hunter’s data.

      • timbozone says:

        The phone data could have been saved to a Mac OS X device, such as a/the laptop. It’s an option in Mac OS X to choose which way you want to backup a phone that’s associated with the OS X device—either iCloud or the local device. You can also set whether or not Bluetooth or local network is used for the saved image on the local OS X device; this works for smaller amounts of data well-enough, but generally a USB cable between the phone and the device is used when attempting a full image backup and/or a full image restore to a phone or iPad.

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