Bill Keller Suppresses American Tradition of Opposition to Torture
When asked by NYT’s own media reporter about the NYT’s refusal to use the word torture, Bill Keller could barely exert himself to say more than the official press statement. Here’s what the spokesperson gave to Michael Calderone.
A spokesman told Yahoo! News that the paper “has written so much about the waterboarding issue that we believe the Kennedy School study is misleading.”However, the Times acknowledged that political circumstances did play a role in the paper’s usage calls. “As the debate over interrogation of terror suspects grew post-9/11, defenders of the practice (including senior officials of the Bush administration) insisted that it did not constitute torture,” a Times spokesman said in a statement. “When using a word amounts to taking sides in a political dispute, our general practice is to supply the readers with the information to decide for themselves. Thus we describe the practice vividly, and we point out that it is denounced by international covenants and in American tradition as a form of torture.” [my emphasis]
And here’s what Keller gave NYT’s Brian Stelter.
Bill Keller, the executive editor of The Times, said the newspaper has written so much about the issue of waterboarding that, “I think this Kennedy School study — by focusing on whether we have embraced the politically correct term of art in our news stories — is somewhat misleading and tendentious.”
In an e-mail message on Thursday, Mr. Keller said that defenders of the practice of waterboarding, “including senior officials of the Bush administration,” insisted that it did not constitute torture.
“When using a word amounts to taking sides in a political dispute, our general practice is to supply the readers with the information to decide for themselves,” Mr. Keller wrote. “Thus we describe the practice vividly, and we point out that it is denounced by international covenants and human rights advocates as a form of torture. Nobody reading The Times’ coverage could be ignorant of the extent of the practice (much of that from information we broke) or mistake it for something benign (we usually use the word ‘brutal.’)” [my emphasis]
I guess all you need to do to be Executive Editor of the NYT is to bandy about insults like “politically correct” and “tendentious” and drop all acknowledgment that not just human rights advocates–but American tradition (notably, the tradition propagated by the NYT until the US embraced torture as official policy)–considers waterboarding torture.
Which is all the more pathetic, given that Bill Keller himself was once part of that tradition. As NYTPicker notes, NYT reporter Bill Keller has a long history of referring to torture as torture without bowing to the spin of the governments who use it.
On February 18, 1987, a 38-year-old NYT reporter named Bill Keller published his first story about torture.
The young Moscow correspondent — who, two years later, would win the Pulitzer Prize for his coverage of the Soviet Union — referred to “the torture case” in writing eloquently about revelations that officials in Petrozavodsk, in the Karelian republic, had been fired in the wake of torture accusations.
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Keller went on to write more than a dozen stories for the NYT — from the Soviet Union and, later, South Africa — that referenced interrogation techniques as “torture.” His stories never alluded to any questioning of the term by the governments that used the techniques.
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In applying a different standard to the NYT’s coverage of waterboarding, Keller has betrayed a reprehensible weakness in the face of his own government’s stance on torture — one that he never showed in his years as a courageous and straightforward reporter.
I’m not sure whether the difference in approach makes reporter Bill Keller nothing more than a human rights activist or makes editor Bill Keller tendentious, but along the way, NYT Executive Editor Bill Keller appears to have actively suppressed an American tradition that treats torture as torture, regardless of who uses it.
Glenn Greenwald has a great post on this subject as well. Thanks for adding your analysis!
IMHO, this Orwellian duplicity by the NYT and the WaPo has been the direct cause of the failure of the Obama administration to prosecute these war crimes. If they had been willing to call a spade a spade, public opinion might well have risen to a level that the Obama administration could not ignore. That, and the eager complicity of Congress to allow Sec. Def. Gates to prevent public release of many photos and archives of torture have sealed the deal.
Bob in AZ
I guess Keller agrees with Rudy Giuliani – that waterboarding may not be torture depending on who does it. According to the NYT, the “American tradition” of treating waterboarding as torture has become as “quaint” as the Geneva Conventions.
X-posted from an earlier thread:
Keller is doubling down on a bad bet. It worked for Rove, Bush and Cheney, so far; it’s not really working for Obama; it’s definitely not working for the gray lady.
The issue of waterboarding…
The waterboard issue…
Bill remember an important writing rule:
“Compare theory to theory and praxis to praxis.”
Waterbroading is a practice of torture, not an issue to dialogue.
It is that simple.
Well, it seems to me that Mr Keller has a “tendentious” propensity for grandiloquent sesquipedalian excess
But wtf I’m just a commoner
Bill Keller in his best Thurston Howell III voice:
totally OT, but for EW’s domestic terrorism file: the Police in Hemet in Riverside county have been targeted by someone out to do harm for several months. The attacks include, via the LATimes:
Yup, a freakin’ rocket and still nary a “domestic” or “terrorist” to be found in the press accounts so far. Today, two arrests. Suspects possibly tied to a white supramicist group. Oh, and:
Happy 4th, y’all!
another OT
This is just so sick. I don’t see the imperial “we” in the wording, but evidently no outside body is allowed to question whether these “lower level” people were guilty of anything, such as covering up the crimes of their superiors, if nothing else. Will no one rid us of this Margolis creep, who deigns to be judge and jury of who is innocent and who is not?
Bob in AZ
Some of those lower level employees might be high level employees,now..
Could be embarrassing,don’t ya think?
Yup, working on the actual filing.
These people ought to be, should be, and deserve to be thoroughly embarrassed and discredited. There is a lot of public interest in disclosing their names. Margolis is full of BS and it is time that he retired.
Bob in AZ
For the safety of American citizens and other residents the names of torturers should be made public.
Keller also asks people to pay for his newspaper on the street stand, and even online if one accumulates frequent visitor cookies. I*d rather read MSLedmn , who in 2005 was writing about similarly politically recommended semantics promulgated by two public figures who are named in the linked article, one a prof, the other an attorney general.
Just a Saturday afternoon rumination, but has the term pedophilia (most especially, in NYT and other top tier MSMreportage dealing with the Catholic Church), been the recipient of such delicate chiaroscuro as has the term torture?
Do not the victims of pedophilia indeed feel tortured–even after many years have elapsed?
Lesson for the political class: if you want to get the NYT off your back, insist they are taking sides in a political dispute. It actually works.
Mr. Keller said that defenders of the practice of allowing priests to have intercourse with children, “including senior officials of the Vatican,” insisted that it did not constitute child rape and was instead a holy union. “When using a word amounts to taking sides in a religious dispute, our general practice is to supply the readers with the information to decide for themselves…”
Mr. Keller said that defenders of the practice of, whatever the President does is legal, “including senior officials of the Nixon administration,” insisted that a President cannot break the law. “When using a word amounts to taking sides in a political dispute, our general practice is to supply the readers with the information to decide for themselves…”
Mr. Keller said that defenders of the practice of cannibalism, “including senior members of the Dahmer defense team,” insisted that it did not constitute a crime – but rather, it was a gastromic adventure necessitated by our changing times. “When using a word amounts to taking sides in a digestive dispute, our general practice is to supply the readers with the information to decide for themselves…”
And I guess all those “dripping water on the face” description – that really did a lot to supply readers with inforamtion to decide for themselves. The necessity of a tach kit and more than a dozen dozen drownings, only to revive and drown again, and again, and again, and again – yeah, they really put themselve out there to supply “the information.”
Ooooh, very tasty Dahmer reference!
Got any chianti and fava beans? ; )
Happy 4th Everyone!
EW
Thinking about those who fought for our liberty and the framers of our Constitution today.
Thanks for carrying the spirit of an open, free society through accountability.
This is the foundational import of July 4th.
It may be worth noting, Keller*s foreign correspondent post bracketed the years of perestroika перестройка. I wonder how the young reporter thought about the reportage lexicon in Izvestia Известя.
the names of lower-level department employees who were not decision makers
When you’re talking about lawyers, that is such bull. Every lawyer working on a matter is a decisionmaker. It’s your job to be a decisionmaker. Having someone who is lead, or ultimately responsible on the file or the matter is never an excuse to join in bad advice without noting your exceptions (it’s what your client deserves from you) and you don’t get to use ‘but Maaaaaaaa, everyone else did toooooooo’ to claim that you can abandon your role and engage in professional misconduct bc your “boss” did.
*Just following orders* – doesn’t work for soldiers, much less for lawyers who aren’t looking at being shot, just being fired.
When DOJ’s take from the top is that there is “little or no public interest” in disclosing the names of lawyers who engaged in professional misconduct or torture conspiracies – that’s beyond the pale. And Holder wants to preach to the courts that they should quit “picking on” a DOJ whose delegated overseer on OPR review is saying that any then-department lawyers who worked on an Exec branch directed torture conspiracy and thereby on suppressing info from the courts in active cases – – – they don’t have to follow the law or Codes of Prof Conduct and their misconduct is not of interest, bc they weren’t the “decision-makers”
Such bull – go pull an associate at a major firm who helped a client destroy subpoenaed documents before a judge and see how the, “but the partner on the case thought it was a good idea to destroy the evidence” works as an out.
On this Fourth of July, I want to celebrate our Independence by giving thanks for all the patriots on this blog and elsewhere who are taking an active role as citizens to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States, as amended. Please know that all your efforts are appreciated and are vitally important. As Glenn Smith comments on the FDL front page,
Our Constitution was not perfect from the beginning, or it would not have been amended 14 times. And it is not perfect now. Nevertheless, it is the best and most insightful charter for governance that has ever been conceived and implemented. Significant parts of this marvelous document have been neglected and undermined in recent years, and there is no one but ourselves to remedy these excesses.
Please continue the important work of protecting and defending our Constitution.
Bob in AZ
Beautifully said, Bob. Many thanks.
Happy 4th of July to everyone !
Thank you, to the smartest, funniest group of Americans on teh toobz; thank you for your insights, hard work and commitment. You truly represent the very best of humanity.
Your insights are making a difference in the World and at home. Onward & upward !
Keller sounds like he defines following international law and agreements as “politically correct” Pathetic. Just more evidence of the NYT’s bloody dangerous reporting and interpretations of laws and standards.
Happy Fourth of July to y’all.
Liberty, equality, fraternity! (And at long last, sorority!)
And furthermore, for Texas and Miss Lily!
Your Bill of Rights is an utterly magnificent document. I will always consider anyone who defends that document a best friend forever. Que l’on continue.
Focusing on waterboarding as torture is itself a dangerous moving of the goalposts, although it does make clear who the outright apologists are. Walter Pincus performed the same ambiguous service as the Kennedy School study four years ago, and I had the same reaction then:
Given that anything like justice or accountability for torture usually takes at least a few decades, death may spare Dick Cheney his time in the dock. But as we struggle toward that goal, please don’t forget that there is much more to U.S. torture than waterboarding, and that it is, shamefully, ongoing.
What to the detainee is the Fourth of July?
‘Twas about ready to settle down to my 4th of July tradition and re-read the Declaration of Independence, Constitution and Bill of Rights (High-five, skdadl!), but then I saw this so need to vent by sharing it with all of you. Sowwy.
Sept. 11 terrorism trials still in search of a venue
“Now, the decision on where to hold the high-profile trials of [Khalid Sheik] Mohammed and four others accused of being Sept. 11 conspirators has been put on hold and probably will not be made until after November’s midterm elections, according to law enforcement, administration and congressional sources. In an unusual twist, the matter has been taken out of the hands of the Justice Department officials who usually make prosecutorial decisions and rests entirely with the White House, the sources said.”
LINK.
Oh, good. bmaz just put up a post about this.
Top o the Fourth to you Fatster!!
Many, many thanks and same to you. ***big smile***
Slightly OT but good for 4th July.
Frank Gaffney, on BBC today defending Obama administration attempts (now there’s a thought!) to get access to all European Bank records of everyone (including me so I care). Cue usual war against terrorists guff. His interlocutor, a British Member of the European Parliament, asks how the USA would react to reciprocity on this, Gaffeny says absolutely no becuase European governments are compromised vis a vis the “Moslem Brotherhood”. When it is suggested this is close to a gross insult (the MEP was calmer than I would have been)he says in effect “See, you’re using privacy arguments just like them which proves you are on their side.”!
With advocates like Gaffney on the airwaves is it any wonder some really quite reasonable people in Europe hate and distrust the USA, whoever is in power?
What’s in a name?
Well, in Gaffney’s case ,quite a lot. Gaffe after gaffe…what a tool!
Came late. Bill Keller is a neocon. As executive editor, he has run defense for first Bush and then Obama. He kept on Michael Gordon and John Burns despite their dismal reporting from Iraq. He suppressed the Risen-Lichtblau story on Bush’s illegal wiretap programs through the 2004 elections, and only eventually released it when Lichtblau made it known that Risen was going to in a book. If you want to know why the NYT has done so little investigation of the criminality and disasters of Bush, now Obama, you really need to look no further than Keller.