What Trump Wants From the Nayib Bukele Presser
Stewart Rhodes remains an adjudged terrorist (having gotten a terrorism enhancement at sentencing, in a sentence that Trump commuted but did not pardon). Kilmar Abrego Garcia is not.
I start there because one of the biggest takeaways from the press conference Trump staged with Nayib Bukele today is that the claims that Abrego Garcia — and not the guy whom Trump freed on his first day on the job — is a terrorist went uncontested.
The entire press conference was staged, like a badly written play, and staged to set up tomorrow’s status hearing in the Kilmar Abrego Garcia case, and with it try to chip away at due process for undocumented people. Yes, in the longer run, Trump wants to set up the legal path to use CECOT as a concentration camp, including for Americans. But in the shorter term, I think Trump is trying to reverse two adverse SCOTUS decisions, the one ruling that everyone gets access to at least a habeas petition before being deported, and the other that would uphold the ruling that Abrego Garcia could be deported, but not to El Salvador.
As far as we know, Kilmar Abrego Garcia is a unique fact set among the people deported in the March 15 flights, and my guess is that after John Sauer came in, he decided to reset how DOJ deals with Abrego Garcia because he 1) had a negative ruling in 2019 and 2) is an undocumented Salvadoran citizen.
And so the presser today was designed to present an entirely new argument in the Abrego Garcia case, one that negates the repeated admissions of error (including even from Sauer) already in the court record.
After Kaitlan Collins started asking questions, all the people who should be submitting sworn declarations before Judge Paula Xinis made comments not burdened by oaths or the risk of contempt, rehearsed comments for the cameras.
Pam Bondi misrepresented the two 2019 rulings as findings that Abrego Garcia is a terrorist (as distinct from a ruling that he was not safe to release), and said that she was helpless to get Abrego Garcia back.
Stephen Miller laid out the new game plan at length (one he previewed on Fox beforehand): a claim that the SCOTUS order says the opposite of what it does, a claim that SCOTUS said that so long as this all gets packaged as foreign policy, Trump can deprive Abrego Garcia of his rights. A lie that the plan always to send Abrego Garcia to CECOT for precisely the purpose they’re putting forth today.
Marco Rubio had his speaking part, in which he affirmed the claim that this was all about foreign policy.
And then Bukele claimed he is helpless to return Abrego Garcia because — accepting the unsubstantiated claim that Abrego Garcia is a terrorist — he couldn’t bring someone like that back into the US (never mind that countries, including El Salvador, extradite actual terrorists to the US all the time).
So Bondi claimed to be helpless to ask Buekele to return Abrego Garcia. Bukele claimed to be helpless to return him. Depending on how SCOTUS treats the clear contempt for their ruling, it could have the desired effect, to get John Roberts to claim impotence.
There was no discussion of the US payments to Bukele, or past claims that Bukele is only temporarily holding the US deportees. (Though without the claim that this is temporary, the deportations to be held indefinitely in a third country become far more problematic.) Andrew Weissmann noted that Trump’s hot mic comment that Bukele should build five more camps suggests this is all being done at the US’ behest.
And, of course, there was no discussion that Trump freed a number of adjudged terrorists on his first day in office, his terrorists, terrorists now running free.
The Trump Administration is, in my opinion, trying to move the bar on deportation to a concentration camp. Contrary to Trump’s staged comment (for Bukele’s videographers) that Bukele needs to build five more concentration camps, I don’t think this theater was designed to get all the way to deporting American citizens now, not without more sanction from SCOTUS. I have no doubt he does want to get there, but thus far Trump has given what he does the patina of legal sanction, and he seems to believe he’ll get it here.
But I do think the theater scene was designed to get a second bid on this case from SCOTUS. And until people start focusing on Trump’s unsubstantiated claim that these men — Abrego Garcia and the others — are terrorists, until that claim is defeated politically, then Trump will continue to make legal progress.
If we had a functioning doj this would be sorted. Trump said he’s up for shipping violent Americans to El Salvador. Does that extend to violent magas convicted of assaulting capitol police? Or maybe just his political opponents.
We have a functioning DOJ. It doesn’t serve its intended purpose, though.
Or extend to Hegseth with his domestic terrorist tattoos?
I wish someone had asked Bukele if he would return Garcia if the US requested it.
Or, if we all pitched in and “donated” (fill in amount) to you?
I’m just waiting for this Trump regime to start snatching its political opponents off the street and shipping them off to CECOT without due process. Anyone critical of Trump is obviously a terrorist member of Tren de Aragua if the regime vehemently says so in a media hit (which seems to be the only legal standard they hew to).
It’s going to transpire that all the lawyers that did their jobs and other people who displeased trump will turn out to be sleeper tda or ms13 agents.
Is Cody Balmer a bad hombre or a Patriot? Inquiring minds want to know.
https://apnews.com/article/josh-shapiro-arson-charges-pennsylvania-governor-c3ccfc0f23a40f2b10bd6ba767d53f80
mentally ill, according to his mother, and stopped taking his meds
https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/suspect-in-arson-at-pennsylvania-gov-josh-20274625.php
His mental illness didn’t affect his consciousness of guilt as he confessed to his ex-girlfriend.
His fb posts show he hated Biden but guess too early for trump to consider pardoning for terrorism.
The question I never get an answer is, what crime did Abrego Garcia commit in El Salvador that prompts his incarceration without trial there? If Bukele won’t release him, under what law does he hold him? And barring a Salvadorian “crime”, how can the White House claim he cannot be repatriated because Bukele won’t allow it? I know the Kafka is the feature here, but I don’t see even the MAGA benefit of letting this go on much longer
As far as we know, Kilmar Abrego Garcia hasn’t been charged with any crimes anywhere.
He fled El Salvador to the U.S. in 2011 at the age of 16, entering the U.S. illegally. His lawyers say he was fleeing from the Barrio 18 gang which had been threatening his family. In 2019, police arrested him in a Home Depot parking lot where he was seeking work as a day laborer. The police handed him over to ICE who initiated deportation proceedings against him. In those proceedings ICE claimed he was a member of MS-13 because “he was wearing a Chicago Bulls hat and a hoodie” and supposedly a confidential informant claimed that he was active with an MS-13 group in New York, where Abrego Garcia has never lived. ICE relied on information from a gang affliation form filled out by a local police officer who was suspended shortly afterward for job-related misconduct. An immigration judge used the informant claim to deny Abrego Garcia bail, but the matter of whether he is actually affiliated with MS-13 has never been adjudicated in court and Abrego Garcia has consistently denied any connection to MS-13.
Despite that, and despite the 2019 “witholding of removal” order that gave him legal status to be in the U.S. and forbade deporting him to El Salvador, the Trump regime arrested him on March 12, 2025 and shipped him off to CECOT without any due process. Since then, the regime has been stonewalling the courts and advertising their contempt for them. Despite the recent 9-0 Supreme Court ruling, they have made no attempt to undo the wholly illegal rendition of Abrego Garcia to El Salvador.
To paraphrase JVL from The Bulwark, “This is Stasi shit”. The United States, formerly a democracy and rule-of-law country, now looks like an authoritarian hellhole to those of us who live in civilized countries.
Decades ago I volunteered for federal habeas death penalty cases. Very difficult and often frustrating work that left me frequently astounded at the shamelessness of lawyers for the state defending gross violations of due process. And I wondered how they slept at night. They look like Clarence Darrow compared to the current crew.
At least they motivate action, e.g., protests, letters to congress, money to the lawyers fighting these horrors, personal advocacy to persuadable acquaintances and, I hate to say it, family. Thank you for your outstanding work.
“…Pam Bondi misrepresented the two 2019 rulings…”
Republican USAG Pam Bondi mispresented two 2019 findings? Republican USAG Bill Barr misrepresented the findings of the Mueller Report.
Coincidence? I think not!
When you watch the presser clip, notice everyone’s hands. And at the beginning, notice where Bukele is directing his eyes. Is it just me, or did anyone else notice someone sending a signal?
No fair, SL! You just made it so I have to watch it again–something I had vowed not to do! But you’ve succeeded it making me so curious I will have to break that vow.
Hint: It’s something I might notice more than other people solely because of a personal trauma.
The 34-count convicted felon is now promoting human trafficking.
Everywhere on media you hear that this is a constitutional crisis.
As far as I’m concerned, this is a criminal crisis, with everyone on the take. Has nothing to do with the constitution.
Yep. ” I’ll take, ‘What is a transnational mob bust out’ for $6.4 trillion, Alex…”
https://bsky.app/profile/reichlinmelnick.bsky.social/post/3lmsntyhr722o
April 14, 2025 at 6:55 PM
Abrego Garcia and MS-13: What Do We Know? The allegation seems to stem from double hearsay in a document authored by a later suspended police detective.
https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/abrego-garcia-and-ms-13–what-do-we-know Roger Parloff 4/15/25
Reason for suspension of that cop:
https://bsky.app/profile/gregsargent.bsky.social/post/3lmumqtvorc2n
April 15, 2025 at 1:41 PM
A great reminder, harpie. I remember these details from when Garcia’s case first exploded on the scene. The MS13 claim always seemed “thin” at best.
But Stephen Miller is counting on his audience never doing homework like this. And unfortunately he’s right.
More NEWs:
https://bsky.app/profile/annabower.bsky.social/post/3lmutzrnqek2u
April 15, 2025 at 3:51 PM
Signed by acting GC of DHS Mazarra.
Includes a link to transcript of BUKELE / TRUMP meeting.
Mr. Garcia’s attorneys need to go after Trump & Co. for defamation (in addition to other causes of action that may be available). Ask the lawyers who represented Dominion against Fox and Newsmax to help out.
With all the “deference” paid to Trump’s foreign policy supremacy, everyone conveniently overlooks the fact that he violated judiciary supremacy by acting as judge and jury, as well as executioner.
Foreign policy? Yes, a foreign country is involved, but only because they could get Mr. Garcia on a plane while gaming the courts. Do the courts owe deference to sham foreign affairs?
Saw an article recently on facebook claiming to be from a VZ journalist with comments that real VZ gang members do not readily identify via tattoos. Can you or someone verify this? Based on trumps general stupidity, this almost sound reasonable.
Link below
https:// www. facebook. com/photo/?fbid=10161573819809895 &set=a.154241599894&__cft__[0]=AZUCkU6MhjF_OOepv0pwrBShOVoaOZi_OvtvqW4PPvzcTHduM7ONfsMZ2v5WYue23-H4DE9EVXdHqk46hP5m2ccF9SAIm0WHmVBb44E8pKDMODgZJZ9T-slKWc_MJT4eJnwyxyolAVmnvoQs18sIFDsjktbfrj0pZQSjQQZoKHcfuA&__tn__=EH-R
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I think gang tats are mostly US thing – though they’re certainly used elsewhere, but not so obviously identifiable.
Seriously, this shit is blowing my mind!!
The Guardian had a very good piece – with its Catch-22 headline and this lede – It is difficult to find a term more fitting for the fate of the Maryland father Kilmar Abrego García than Kafkaesque. . . sorry no link, yet, will attempt soon.
For me, this is about the whole process they’ve begun, waaay worse than the kids in cages, really.
I don’t have much else to add right now.
Song rec: El Salvador, Peter Paul & Mary
On possibly delaying auto parts tariffs, rubber band Donnie, “Look, I’m a very flexible person. I don’t change my mind, but I’m flexible.”
So these two men on live TV condemned a man who has committed no crimes to life in an El Salvador prison. They both know this fact yet they have no qualms about flippantly waving theirs and saying off with his head. Taking him away from his American wife and autistic child. This the epitome of the actions of dictators. Cruelty is the point to instill fear.
Let Digby show the charges against a real terrorist. Just a quick review of the Declaration of Independence. The signatory’s of this document pledged their live and their property for the cause of not having a king.
https://digbysblog.net/2025/04/14/how-many-of-these-charges-apply-to-trump/
I guess the American public is not quite at that point of revolution yet. may be soon though.
Just a friendly reminder that the Vietnam War policy of America was not changed by the courts or writing your congressional representative. Only by massive civil protest in the streets and the civil institutions did the war policy change. Yes the government use extreme violence against those who were brave enough to protest.
If SCOTUS ultimately finds that there being no corpus within US borders to habeas places any matter concerning such corpus outside its jurisdiction, or even that the corpus has no standing in any case since it cannot to be proven to currently exist, then there is no legal risk and every incentive for a government bent on terrorizing the governed to snatch and dump whoever it pleases out of a military transport over the Gulf of America before their corpus has managed to file a habeas petition in a venue SCOTUS deems acceptable. Speed trumps due process.
Thank You. Here is a little more:
habeas corpus(n.)
From habere “to have, to hold” + corpus “person,” literally “body”
Latin, literally “(you should) have the person.”
In the Law: Writs in 14c. Anglo-French documents.
In phrase: habeas corpus ad subjiciendum; “produce or have the person to be subjected to (examination)”.
In practice: requires a person to be brought before a court or judge, especially to determine if that person is being legally detained.
Posted by Jenny Cohn on Bluesky regarding Erik Prince’s involvement:
“ Erik Prince visited Salvadoran President Nayib Bukele in August 2024 & gushed that he was “very impressed” with Bukele’s prison system. Bukele posted this clip from their meeting.
https://bsky.app/profile/jennycohn.bsky.social/post/3lmtf7ys35c2c
“ “Erik Prince wants to cut a deal to transport detainees from the US to El Salvador *** The proposal would “target ‘criminal illegal aliens’” and “attempt to avoid legal challenges by designating part of the prison…as American territory.”
“Erik Prince & a team of defense contractors are pitching the White House” on the plan. “It’s unclear how seriously the White House is considering the plan,” but the group has had “multiple talks with administration officials…”
“ “The administration official also said they expect the proposal to be discussed during El Salvador President Nayib Bukele’s visit to the White House on Monday, when he is planning to meet with President Donald Trump to hash out a variety of immigration issues.”
“The proposal would ultimately put Prince in charge of an extraordinary privatization effort that would use his company to handle logistics, including ferrying tens of thousands of detainees from American holding cells to El Salvador’s prison.”
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/04/11/military-contractors-prison-plan-detained-immigrants-erik-prince-00287208
“ ‘Maga since forever’: mercenary mogul Erik Prince pushes to privatize Trump deportation plans”
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/16/erik-prince-trump-immigration-enforcement
Thank you for this. If it’s nasty and profitable, of course Erik Prince is ON IT. I just wonder where Boris Epshteyn figures into all this hell.
Given planes (instead of trains); extrajudicial deportations of “homegrown” “others” to “secure” facilities in out-of-the-way places … In asking this question I don’t mean to minimize the horrors of the past, but perhaps instaed to foreshadow (what I fear might be) the future, that is: “When is it too early to start referring to El Salvador’s CECOT as “Bukele’s Buchenwald”?
Or Trump’s Treblinka
Knowing that we can move people with words carefully chosen, and knowing that rhetoric can be powerful … still, it makes me sad to write these things:
“Miller’s Mauthausen”
I would go with Donald’s Dachau since it is the first.
“History Does Not Repeat Itself, But It Rhymes” … and can be alliterative, as well.
Anna Bower and Roger Parloff will be Live-Posting from Judge Xinis’ 4:00 PM Hearing today.
https://bsky.app/profile/annabower.bsky.social/post/3lmujqcjzy223
April 15, 2025 at 12:47 PM
https://bsky.app/profile/bcfinucane.bsky.social/post/3lmtweirfpc2z
April 15, 2025 at 7:00 AM
Links to:
Ranking Member Shaheen Urges Secretary Rubio to Facilitate the Release of Unlawfully Detained U.S. Resident in El Salvador and Seeks Transparency on Deportation Deals // April 14, 2025
https://bsky.app/profile/annabower.bsky.social/post/3lmuud264cc2o
April 15, 2025 at 3:56 PM
April 15, 2025 at 4:04 PM
April 15, 2025 at 4:07 PM
harpie: There is some other new info here:
https://www.emptywheel.net/2025/04/14/what-trump-wants-from-the-nayib-bukele-presser/#comment-1094403
Related aside: Reuveni has been FIRED:
https://bsky.app/profile/harrylitman.bsky.social/post/3lmuukvcjdk2f
April 15, 2025 at 4:01 PM
April 15, 2025 at 4:17 PM
[More about the “transcript” at the above link to my earlier comment]
Not lost on the court, it seems, that press conferences are not conducted under oath. Rightfully rejected as evidence.
April 15, 2025 at 4:23 PM
April 15, 2025 at 4:28 PM
April 15, 2025 at 4:35 PM
Ensign is really really trying to avoid committing to *anything*.
This maladministration knows it’s wrong, and is trying to technicality its way out of the contempt it’s so richly earned from Xinis.
April 15, 2025 at 4:40 PM
It’s over by 4:45 PM [with a comment in the pokey at the moment].
TRUMP et al REALLY don’t want to be discovery-ed
Thank you harpie!
Yes, thank you, harpie. Excellent work! Greatly appreciated.
You’re quite welcome, dopefish and SL!
I always plan to just reproduce SOME of the Posts…
but I can never figure out which are the important ones fast enough.
I am in awe of those [like Marcy] who can actually produce a THREAD like that!
PS: [she thinks glumly] I guess I should check if there are any major discrepancies between the transcript TRUMP et al provided and the reality. uggg!
https://www.youtube.com/live/TWEHwgAWQGw
Lawfare live on hearing now
Here’s Chris GEIDNER with Judge XINIS’ Order:
https://bsky.app/profile/chrisgeidner.bsky.social/post/3lmv5gdubf22v
April 15, 2025 at 6:39 PM
Also, I meant to THANK Anna BOWER for the amazing Live Posting!
Was Bukele Telles at for not wearing a tie? No? So bringing a sledge hammer to habeas corpus and sane-washing a dictator were the agenda for the day.
And now for something very different…OMFG! LOL!
I have been complaining to whomever will listen,
about the gaudy new interior decorating in the Oval Office …
…I am laughing so hard, I’m practically pissing my pants …
https://bsky.app/profile/jonkeegan.com/post/3lmuybx7xqc2p
April 15, 2025 at 5:07 PM
That’s something that deserves a 104% tariff!
HAHAHAHAHA!
Wall Street Journal:
https://bsky.app/profile/jeffjarvis.bsky.social/post/3lmwdjcnjjs2l
April 16, 2025 at 6:01 AM
Links to Dawsey and Wernau at WSJ:
How Trump and His ‘Gold Guy’ Are Redecorating the White House
The president is making the world’s most famous residence
more like Mar-a-Lago, his gilded Florida club
April 16, 2025 5:00 am ET
It’s a poor man’s idea of how the rich should live. Or very poor taste.
LOL I saw a copy of the portraits sent to federal offices and hung where everyone entering can see them.
ISTG Trump’s is an AI-tweaked copy of his booking photo. Sure, let’s put some gold trim on that sucker.
Jonathan V. Last and Timothy Snyder are two voices who understand the stakes here.
JVL:
Professor Snyder:
They’re not hiding their plans to deport 12 million people, regardless of legal citizenship and laws. Prince is in the running to “manage” it.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2025/4/15/2316715/-Trump-building-an-ACAB-deportation-army-to-hunt-migrants
It is unfortunate some one can’t just phone MS 13 and ask if Mr. Garcia is a member or not. Once it is confirmed he is not, Trump is going to look like the idiot he is. It is doubtful Mr Garcia will ever return to his family. This all serves a purpose for trump. He gets publicity, thinks it makes him look tough, and it does scare people.
Private prisons in the U.S.A. are expensive. It will be much less expensive to send all the alleged criminals to out of country prisons. Families won’t be able to visit, no one will ever hear about what goes on in the prisons and the bodies can be disposed of to never be found again.
Didn’t watch the news item regarding the group but this picture certainly is strange. these old white guys sitting round with their legs so far apart and their hands between their legs It looks actually comical. Actually they look like a bunch of apes. Mind you apes are nicer and brighter.
The pres of el salvador, what an idiot. All they have to do is release Mr. Garcia to another country. I’m sure some one can fly down and pick him up and take him to a third country. But that isn’t what they want to do. They want to send a message, regardless of whether you are innocent or not, we will send any one we want to a concentration camp. gee trump is just so nazi.
All of this makes me wonder if Trump or any one from his gang are receiving kick backs from El Salvador.
In typical Rwing fashion to keep digging and digging until something is found to support their original false contention, thus now finding something, anything, to make the original contention somewhat accurate, Faux “News” is reporting there is a spousal abuse claim from 2021 against Garcia.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/maryland-man-kilmar-abrego-garcia-exposed-police-records-violent-repeat-wife-beater
Of course the commenters are now claiming that Liberals support spousal abuse and that Trump was correct to deport Garcia.
Turns out the temporary protective order ended and was dismissed just over a month later, when Vasquez Sura failed to appear in court.
https://wtop.com/maryland/2025/04/wife-of-mistakenly-deported-maryland-man-responds-to-release-of-protective-order-filing/
If this weaksauce is all the evidence they could find of him being a “bad hombre”, it seems pretty obvious that Kilmar Abrego Garcia is not the dangerous gang-membering terrorist the MAGA apologists keep claiming he is.
In other news, the 4th circuit slapped down DOJ’s attempt to interrupt Judge Xinis’ accelerated discovery schedule.
CNN reports:
Philip Bump, WaPo, GIFT link:
https://bsky.app/profile/pbump.com/post/3lmy37wupo22r
April 16, 2025 at 10:38 PM
GIFT Link to:
Trump wants a million deportations. One man is tripping him up.
Kilmar Abrego Garcia’s story tells us far more than Trump’s dubious immigration numbers.
Washington Post 4/16/25
READ THIS!
It’s a summary of recent history re: MS-13, El Salvador and the United States,
reposted by Heather Cox Richardson, who called it important.
What’s the Real Quid Pro Quo with Bukele?
Hint: It’s not about fighting “terrorism,” or stopping illegal immigration. https://asharangappa.substack.com/p/whats-the-real-quid-pro-quo-with
Asha Rangappa Apr 17, 2025