The other day, Fox News’ Jesse Watters explained the difference between left and right wing messaging.
We are waging a 21st century information warfare campaign against the left and they are using tactics from the 1990s. They are holding tiny press conferences. Tiny little rallies. They’re screaming into the ether on MSNBC. This is what you call top-down command and control. Your talking points, from a newspaper, and you put it on the broadcast network and it disappears.
What you’re seeing on the right is asymmetrical. It’s like grassroots guerrilla warfare. Someone says something on social media, Musk retweets it, Rogan podcasts it, Fox broadcasts it.. and by the time it reaches everybody, millions of people have seen it. It’s free money. And we’re actually talking about expressing information, they are suppressing information.
Only, Watters left several things out (unless it’s what he meant by “expressing” information, whatever that is). The things Musk retweets are, almost without exception, false. Which means this massive asymmetrical guerrilla warfare feeds just propaganda. And Watters didn’t admit (though he seemed to, on a Fox and Friends broadcast the other day when he confessed to making up the Hamas tie to the Gaza condom hoax) that after these false claims go viral, they get parroted by Trump’s propagandist, Karoline Leavitt, and then Trump himself.
Still (as multipledisinformation experts noted), Watters offered a perfectly timed explanation of the information warfare the right is conducting.
And amid conflicting claims about what Elon’s role in all this is, I would suggest that until someone confesses differently, his primary role is simply a propaganda one: taking excerpted data he totally misunderstands out of context and pushing false claims about it, one that will feed a baseless narrative of corruption.
Mike Masnick described this would happen weeks ago.
Later on, Musk (operating without any clear legal authority or Senate confirmation) made a whole bunch of wildly false claims about USAID, including that it is “a criminal organization,” arguing that it funds all sorts of things it does not (including the idea that it funds “woke prosecutors”), that it’s a “terror organization”, and more. He even claimed it helped fund the creation of COVID-19.
The pattern is familiar: ExTwitter users spin elaborate red-yarn-on-corkboard conspiracy theories, and Musk treats each one as revealed truth. The result is a government increasingly run on paranoid hallucinated fever dreams rather than expertise – imagine NASA’s Apollo Program being handed over to flat-earth conspiracy theorists while the actual engineers are sidelined, and you’ll get the idea.
The danger isn’t just bad policy — it’s the replacement of accountable governance with conspiracy-driven chaos that threatens everything from disaster response to diplomatic relations.
And Renee DiResta described the familiar pattern today.
This is absolutely the Twitter Files for the government.
It’s the same methodology boosted by the same people.
Crawl through a bunch of stuff, find something that seems outrageous, make an online mob lose their minds. Destroy work, upend lives. Get it totally wrong, move to the next thing.
That’s what we’ve seen.
First there was the lie Elon told about condoms in Gaza (as I noted, Watters seemed to confess the other day that he made up the bit about Hamas getting them).
Elon Musk acknowledged Tuesday that there might not have been a federal plan to spend $50 million on condoms for Gaza — two weeks after the White House press secretary told the false story at an official briefing and more than a week after the president baselessly doubled the phony figure to $100 million and said the condoms were going to Hamas.
“Some of the things that I say will be incorrect, and should be corrected,” Musk, the billionaire businessman who is leading a Trump administration initiative they call the Department of Government Efficiency, said when a reporter told him the Gaza story was wrong. “So, nobody’s going to bat a thousand. I mean, any – you know, we will make mistakes, but we’ll act quickly to correct any mistakes.”
This correction was not particularly quick. Press secretary Karoline Leavitt’s claim that President Donald Trump had thwarted $50 million in condom funding for Gaza made headlines around the world in late January. Trump kept repeating the story, and inflating the figure, even after media outlets reported it was highly unlikely to be true.
The saga of the imaginary condom aid began when Leavitt announced during her debut White House press briefing on January 28 that Musk’s team and the president’s budget office had “found that there was about to be 50 million taxpayer dollars that went out the door to fund condoms in Gaza” before Trump imposed a freeze on foreign aid. Musk promoted Leavitt’s words on the X social media platform he owns.
Then there was the lie about dead people receiving Social Security checks, an anomaly in Social Security data identified ten years ago and revisited in an Inspector General report released two years ago.
In 2015,3 we reported that SSA had not established controls to annotate death information on the Numident records of numberholders who exceeded maximum reasonable life expectancies of age 112 or older and were likely deceased. At the time, only 35 known living individuals worldwide were age 112 or older, however, SSA’s Numident included 6.5 million numberholders4 age 112 or older whose record did not contain death information. Therefore, the numberholders’ information did not appear in the full DMF. We recommended SSA add death information to approximately 1.5 million Numident records where the numberholders’ death information appeared in SSA payment records. We also recommended SSA determine whether it could efficiently correct the approximately 5 million remaining records. SSA agreed to explore the legal and technical feasibility, as well as the cost, to establish an automated process to update the millions of Numident records for individuals who appeared to be alive and age 112 or older, but ultimately decided not to update these records.
Social Security decided not to address it because of cost.
In response to our 2015 report, SSA considered multiple options, including adding presumed death information to these Numident records. SSA ultimately decided not to proceed because the “. . . options would be costly to implement, would be of little benefit to the agency, would largely duplicate information already available to data exchange consumers and would create cost for the states and other data exchange partners.”16 SSA also believed a regulation would be required to allow it to add death information to these records, and adding presumed death information to the Numident would increase the risk of inadvertent release of living individuals’ personal information in the DMF.
Now there are the outrageous errors in the DOGE “receipts” page. Thus far, the reporting on this has been inadequate (though Washington Times published a slavering review, which I guess indicates DOGE knows its audience). For example, the NYT dedicated four reporters to call out just the most embarrassing error — that the richest man in the world had mistaken an $8 million payment over a multi-year contract and boasted instead that it represented $8 billion in savings for the two years remaining on the contract.
Daily Beast did a better job, noting not just the order of magnitude error that NYT and others identified, but also that Elon, like Trump, is taking credit for savings made under Joe Biden.
The group boasted that its “estimated savings” for American taxpayers is $55 billion so far, but the total it gave Monday adds up to just a third of that figure—and appears to claim credit for the closure of two government offices that were shuttered under Joe Biden.
Those closures are the National Archives centers in Hoffman Estates, Illinois, and in Fairfield, Ohio. DOGE’s site claims the latter location was a “True Termination – Agency Closed Office.” No other details are offered.
The only details offered on a contract termination for the National Archives center in Fairfield, Ohio.DOGE
Those centers’ approximate closing dates were announced way back on Aug. 1, however, when Biden was still president.
“The records and artifacts of the Barack Obama Presidential Library, which have been held temporarily at Hoffman Estates, will be permanently moved to College Park, MD, in late FY 2025,” a news release from National Archives announced at the time.
Others have noted that many of the big savings are in reality subscriptions to media outlets, including (as Brad Heath noted, the SEC’s subscription to Westlaw). Once all these necessary services get turned back on again, the imagined savings will be wiped away.
Still, DOGE’s shoddy work, slapped up there after days of unfulfilled promises of transparency, needs to be more systematically mined, if for no other reason than to determine whether this is simply a reflection of the ignorance of the DOGE boys Musk has infiltrated into government, the shoddiness of the AI tools they’re using, or simply a disinterest in giving a fuck, because once Elon claims this website says something, the right wing will follow along like sheep.
They don’t need and maybe won’t bother trying to find real proof of savings, because between Elon and Trump and Fox News, they will insist it is the truth, not matter how often it gets debunked.
Until this effort is exposed as the propaganda campaign it is, the lies Musk tells give even Republicans discomforted by all the job losses in their districts something to cling to: A claim that this is about auditing, rather than destruction, a claim that this is about fraud, rather than policies that even Republicans have protected for years, and for good reason.
The richest man in the world is conducting a con on Republicans in government, claiming he is fixing government when instead he is dismantling even the parts that the Republicans themselves cherish.
As Masnick said, “it’s the replacement of accountable governance with conspiracy-driven chaos.”
It remains the case that one of the foundational claims to which Trump’s people continue to return is the one I identified a week ago: A GAO report from last year that spoke of $2.7 trillion in improper payments over the last two decades, but also a spike in recent years that almost entirely arises from fraud and management problems with the various COVID programs Trump rolled out his first term.
The factual claims of fraud — as opposed to the disinformation spun by Elon Musk — largely measure fraud that Trump created through his catastrophic response to COVID. And he fired several of the Inspectors General — most notably HHS IG Christi Grimm (whose work resulted in 193 charges last June), Department of Labor IG Larry Turner (who had already identified $191 billion in improper COVID payments, many fraudulent, and was chasing$135 billion more), and SBA IG Mike Ware (who had IDed around $200 billion in COVID fraud, returning $40 billion to the US Treasury and was still chasing more) — who were busy hunting it all down.
DOGE continues to rely on fraud Trump enabled to excuse their assault on government. And what they’ve found so far is that they lack any of the competencies they would need to audit or identify fraud, and Trump already fired the people who do have those competencies.
Update: Lawfare catches DOGE taking credit for savings due to Jimmy Carter’s death.
Yet a brief glimpse of the data raises questions about its accuracy. One row describes a lease terminated for an “agency” called “Allowance to Former Presidents.” Additional information shows that the property is 7,682 square feet, costs $128,233 per year, and is in Atlanta, Georgia. The GSA maintains a database of property leased by the federal government. Cross-referencing the information on DOGE’s website with GSA’s database reveals that the federal government was leasing this property from “The Carter Center, Inc.” The Carter Center is a nonprofit organization founded by former President Carter, who died on Dec. 29, 2024.
The Former Presidents Act provides former presidents with certain post-presidency benefits. Subsection (c) of that Act says, “The Administrator of General Services shall furnish for each former President suitable office space appropriately furnished and equipped, as determined by the Administrator, at such place within the United States as the former President shall specify.” As one might expect, Carter’s office was located in the Carter Center, and GSA leased office space for Carter from the Carter Center.
DOGE is likely not responsible for the termination of GSA’s lease of the Carter Center. The benefits to Carter under the Former Presidents Act expired upon his death.
Update: NPR’s review of this gets closer to the kind of real test of these claims. For example, it finds that some of the purport cuts have not yet been made.
Just over half of the contracts touted by DOGE, accounting for $6.5 billion in alleged savings, haven’t actually been terminated or closed out as of Wednesday, according to an NPR analysis of a federal government procurement database, even though the site’s “wall of receipts” listed these items.
More than a third of the listed contracts posted online would not actually save any money if canceled, according to DOGE.
And it interviews contracting officers.
A smarter way to reform contracting would actually cost money in the short term,” Riedl said. “Because it requires audits, it requires analysis, building new systems, building new controls rather than just going through with a chainsaw and trying to cut contracts almost randomly.”
Byrne, whose contracting career spanned more than 20 years and included work with the General Services Administration, the Environmental Protection Agency and the Navy, says DOGE’s website is also missing basic information needed to track and understand federal spending, like the ID number, what type of agreement or contract method was used and whether the cancellation was for some or all of the spending. Several publicly available data sources already track and confirm changes to federal contracts, including the Federal Procurement Data System, USASpending.gov and the System for Award Management (SAM). Unlike DOGE, those sources list other relevant data like the current value of the contract, historical changes to the amount budgeted and spent for the contract and when the contracts begin and end.
Who also note that the government is going to have to pay for a lot of the programs cut.
Even government contracts that have been terminated before reaching their full value could end up costing taxpayers more to settle up. Jessica Tillipman, associate dean for government procurement law studies at The George Washington University Law School, previously told NPR that the termination for convenience clause used for many of these cancellations is expensive.
“When the government terminates a contract for convenience, it’s still obligated to pay for the work completed,” she said. “This doesn’t eliminate the government’s responsibility for paying these sorts of costs.”
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Thomas A. Snyder says:
He’s not saving $ but he has proven that he is a callous, selfish Nazi sympathizer who should have zero to do with our government and also that Republicans en masse, without exception, are cowards or traitors who do not respect our Constitution or the rule of law. Those facts are proven.
“SpaceX tries hard to keep him away…”
Agreed, but that’s pretty GD amazing in its own right, keeping the “genius” away from his toy factory? WTF is his malfunction, if it’s not “genius”?
ernesto1581 says:
Speaking of SpaceX, Wired notes this afternoon that “…SpaceX engineers were already being onboarded at the agency [FAA] under Schedule A , a special authority that allows government managers to ‘hire persons with disabilities without requiring them to compete for the job,'”
Do elmo and trump believe that the thousands of workers fired, are all “libs”? Surely a healthy proportion of career civil servants are maga to their core.
The question remains how to fight the onslaught of propaganda when that is the only source of information for so many. The only answer I know is to find one big provable lie and run with it, beat the drum again and again until maybe it dents the tinfoil hats.
Fox news, oann and other right wing sources won’t carry it tho. The magas will be blissfully ignorant. Look at the polling, trump’s approval ratings are the best he’s ever had. It’s discouraging.
You mean like if during litigation in, let’s say, a defamation case, a certain media outlet’s discovery responses were made public demonstrating how said media outlet consistently and intentionally lies to its audience for money and then ended up paying nearly $800 million to settle the case and avoid more such things being made public?
“This correction was not particularly quick. Press secretary Karoline Leavitt’s claim that President Donald Trump had thwarted $50 million in condom funding for Gaza made headlines around the world in late January. Trump kept repeating the story, and inflating the figure, even after media outlets reported it was highly unlikely to be true.”
An example of propaganda for simpletons featured on every right wing outlet extant. Inflating the condom numbers is particularly fascinating. Reminds me of this outrageous crock of hillbilly elegy…https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5llMaZ80ErY
NYT Sunday magazine has a good story on “youth whisperer” Charlie Kirk’s propaganda machine. Kirk admits he started listening to Rush Limbaugh in high school and was enthralled.
I know people who got brainwashed from regular exposure to Limbaugh, going back to the 1990s. My closest friend (now ex-friend) was one of them. He allowed himself to get outraged by Limbaugh’s rant that the rich pay most of the taxes. I responded that the rich pay most of the taxes because they make most of the money.
I have not read that NYT Magazine article yet as I am loathe to unwrap the rag, but I do know that Charlie will be the guest of TPUSA at the University of Wyoming on April 24. 2025.
If he comes to your area then try to attend as engagement with the people that go to the events are not all lost causes….yet.
I really like the idea that it’s top-down when angry citizens have rallies and protests that get reported in the media, but grassroots when a multibillionaire uses his $44 billion website to push stories to a multimillionaire on billionaire platforms so multimillionaires can discuss it on a multibillionaire’s news channel. And as if it’s the grassrootness that’s helping them push the message and not that they have the biggest platforms.
Whether or not what they’re saying is true, it’s obvious that Jesse Watters thinks down is up and all these clowns have such fragile egos that they still see themselves as weaklings despite having all the power. All the smart millionaires and billionaires know that rightwing policies are bad for them because they need smart and healthy workers to do the work and buy their stuff. It’s only the dumb ones getting duped by grifters.
I dunno how effective establishing tit-for-tat messaging outlets to try to nullify the amplified lies. No one in the comments has actually suggested that nor do I for that matter. Seems unfocused and counterproductive productive.
However, the D(NC) messaging is atrocious. And those Ds that can message – AOC comes to mind – are not fully embraced by the D establishment.
Two things come to mind though.
1) I did message Mark Cuban on BlueSky – did not expect and did not get a response – about him funding an alternative factual outlet to try to amplify the lies being told.
2) Which leads me to wonder where the “liberal” billionaires are. They may be engaged and I just do not know it. Heck, they could engage and have Marcy be a lead informer.
Bottom line, the D(s) continue to play too nice IMHO. Nice is good but shuffle one up to that grey line will you? I hope that if a noticed alternative messaging outlet get seem reporting traction that even the right wing media will at least report on it – not carry it obviously – but reporting on it to make their “persuadable” listeners curious enough to take a peek.
Finally…there must be some pros that can help the D(s) with this. It ain’t me to say the least and maybe these thoughts above are garbage, but for the love of all that is important….
“Ds that can message – AOC comes to mind – are not fully embraced by the D establishment.”
It is evident the D establishment would rather let fascism happen than wake up the Progressives/Persuadables to how much power we could amass if embraced a more “honest” and narrower message.
You are not getting honesty from Schumer, Booker, Pelosi, Obama or sadly from Hakeem. Bernie is an opportunist when it comes to honesty and AOC should swap him out for Pete Buttigieg.
Now with that said, the local Ds are fairly conservative and it has been interesting to see how much resistance there can be: as I write this all I can think of is MLK Jr. expressing concern about the white liberals desire for order. How has that worked out?
“I dunno how effective establishing tit-for-tat messaging outlets to try to nullify the amplified lies…” Responding to blizzard of lies is more time consuming and requires more space than staying on your own message and not being displaced by reactionary rebuttal. Some rebuttal needs to be done but not much.
Also, for a large portion of the MAGA cult Trump’s lies simply do not matter, they’ll just deflect to “we don’t care what he says, we care about policy” and “the ends justify the means.”
I periodically regret the inability to post pictures here. Today is one of those times. From Politico:
OCEANS RISE, EMPIRES FALL: Trump moved to revoke federal approval of New York City’s congestion pricing program on Wednesday, our NICK REISMAN and RY RIVARD report , writing “CONGESTION PRICING IS DEAD” in a Truth Social post .
But the ending of his post was most notable: “LONG LIVE THE KING.” The official White House X account reposted the note soon after, accompanied by a fake magazine cover showing the president grinning in a crown with the New York City skyline behind him. White House deputy chief of staff TAYLOR BUDOWICH also posted an AI-generated photo of Trump in a crown and robe.”
The fact that these rectal orifices posted this on the official White House account must be responded to. And loudly. We are currently losing. We need to be responding the way South Korea did. Swiftly, vocally and across all strata of the country.
From The Daily Beast: “Trump Signs New Order to Vastly Expand His Presidential Powers”
…”The sweeping order, which claims to promote “Presidential supervision and control of the entire executive branch,” could affect independent agencies like the Federal Election Committee, Federal Communications Commission, Federal Trade Commission, and the Securities and Exchange Commission.”…
“The order appears to be designed to test a once-fringe legal theory, dubbed the unitary executive theory, which holds that the president has sole control over the entire executive branch. It also reflects the growing influence of Trump’s budget chief, Russell Vought, who has long been a proponent of the unitary executive theory.”
If/when one of Trump’s billionaire accomplices gets the green light to purchase Tic Toc, the messaging media war that the left is losing will become much worse. 2026 elections will be affected with tons more disinformation.
An example of the left losing the culture war to Maga: What was the public’s response to Elon and his 4 year old in the Oval Office holding court, while bored Trump looked on? What would the public Maga response be, if Harris had won the election with 250 million Soros bucks, and Soros was in the Oval Office with his grandkid and holding court? Mayhem.
Thanks, as always, for doing the kind of deep dive that NYTimes and honest media should be doing.
Musk and DOGE are frauds, conducting sham “audits” in order to dismantle government operations for the purpose of privatizing them and insuring that Musk and allies get the lucrative resulting contracts.
Anyone who has worked for a company long enough has been through these kind of “audits”, conducted by unsupervised young auditors with little understanding of the business they are auditing. A glossy report gets issued recommending outsourcing as one way to correct deficiencies.
While the Democrats are not the party in power, they can and should start conducting hearings like they did regarding the private contracts in the Iraq Occupation. Use the hearings to educate the press and public about what audits should entail and why these audits are shams.
I just now logged onto the My Social Security website and pulled up my info. I can see each monthly disbursement by date and amount. From that site I can request a replacement SSA-1099 tax form that reports my SS benefits to the IRS by year. The site contains my name, address, DOB, banking info, beneficiary, and of course my SS#. It undoubtedly comes from the same database that Elmo’s Muskrat gang is pulling from.
They have the ability to uncover specific fraudulent payments to dead 150-year-old pensioners – right down to the penny and bank account. The media knows this, yet they have allowed the RW propaganda echo chamber to have a field day reporting that DOGE has uncovered hundreds of billions in SS payments to long dead recipients. It’s not some programming language or database misunderstanding. It’s a purposeful lie intended to destroy confidence and allow DOGE to enjoy even greater abuse powers.
Let’s demand that legacy media get their shit together and report this DOGE scandal correctly. There are hundreds of reels on Instagram and other sites that continue to spread the lie. Many using Joe Rogan, Elon Musk, and Trump himself as the source. It’s so easily debunked that even a caveman could do it, yet it appears beyond the grasp of the NYT’s, WaPo, USA Today, or CBS.
He’s not saving $ but he has proven that he is a callous, selfish Nazi sympathizer who should have zero to do with our government and also that Republicans en masse, without exception, are cowards or traitors who do not respect our Constitution or the rule of law. Those facts are proven.
All this, and President Musk still has his paying jobs, with those conflicts of interest not addressed at all.
Do also note how President Musk says that the contract with SpaceX is with SpaceX, not not with (his royal) “him”.
I think SpaceX tries hard to keep him away from decision-making. But they really need to tell him he’s on leave as long as he’s part of government.
“SpaceX tries hard to keep him away…”
Agreed, but that’s pretty GD amazing in its own right, keeping the “genius” away from his toy factory? WTF is his malfunction, if it’s not “genius”?
Speaking of SpaceX, Wired notes this afternoon that “…SpaceX engineers were already being onboarded at the agency [FAA] under Schedule A , a special authority that allows government managers to ‘hire persons with disabilities without requiring them to compete for the job,'”
How could the fired workers be organized to help document and resist the degradation of government capabilities?
The people who work for the taxpayers are patriots. imo
Do elmo and trump believe that the thousands of workers fired, are all “libs”? Surely a healthy proportion of career civil servants are maga to their core.
DHS, law enforcement agencies and half CIA are conservatives.
They want to lose 3/4 of them. Because of course no agencies or departments are seriously understaffed. /SNARK
The question remains how to fight the onslaught of propaganda when that is the only source of information for so many. The only answer I know is to find one big provable lie and run with it, beat the drum again and again until maybe it dents the tinfoil hats.
Fox news, oann and other right wing sources won’t carry it tho. The magas will be blissfully ignorant. Look at the polling, trump’s approval ratings are the best he’s ever had. It’s discouraging.
You mean like if during litigation in, let’s say, a defamation case, a certain media outlet’s discovery responses were made public demonstrating how said media outlet consistently and intentionally lies to its audience for money and then ended up paying nearly $800 million to settle the case and avoid more such things being made public?
If only something like that would happen…
“This correction was not particularly quick. Press secretary Karoline Leavitt’s claim that President Donald Trump had thwarted $50 million in condom funding for Gaza made headlines around the world in late January. Trump kept repeating the story, and inflating the figure, even after media outlets reported it was highly unlikely to be true.”
An example of propaganda for simpletons featured on every right wing outlet extant. Inflating the condom numbers is particularly fascinating. Reminds me of this outrageous crock of hillbilly elegy…https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5llMaZ80ErY
NYT Sunday magazine has a good story on “youth whisperer” Charlie Kirk’s propaganda machine. Kirk admits he started listening to Rush Limbaugh in high school and was enthralled.
I know people who got brainwashed from regular exposure to Limbaugh, going back to the 1990s. My closest friend (now ex-friend) was one of them. He allowed himself to get outraged by Limbaugh’s rant that the rich pay most of the taxes. I responded that the rich pay most of the taxes because they make most of the money.
I suspect Charlie Kirk met Limbaugh’s radio show before meeting Ayn Rand’s polemics.
I have not read that NYT Magazine article yet as I am loathe to unwrap the rag, but I do know that Charlie will be the guest of TPUSA at the University of Wyoming on April 24. 2025.
If he comes to your area then try to attend as engagement with the people that go to the events are not all lost causes….yet.
https://backend.tpusa.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/Press-Release-The-American-Comeback-Tour-Spring-2025-.pdf
Gee, I’d love to attend but I’ll be alphabetizing my spice rack that day.
I really like the idea that it’s top-down when angry citizens have rallies and protests that get reported in the media, but grassroots when a multibillionaire uses his $44 billion website to push stories to a multimillionaire on billionaire platforms so multimillionaires can discuss it on a multibillionaire’s news channel. And as if it’s the grassrootness that’s helping them push the message and not that they have the biggest platforms.
Whether or not what they’re saying is true, it’s obvious that Jesse Watters thinks down is up and all these clowns have such fragile egos that they still see themselves as weaklings despite having all the power. All the smart millionaires and billionaires know that rightwing policies are bad for them because they need smart and healthy workers to do the work and buy their stuff. It’s only the dumb ones getting duped by grifters.
I dunno how effective establishing tit-for-tat messaging outlets to try to nullify the amplified lies. No one in the comments has actually suggested that nor do I for that matter. Seems unfocused and counterproductive productive.
However, the D(NC) messaging is atrocious. And those Ds that can message – AOC comes to mind – are not fully embraced by the D establishment.
Two things come to mind though.
1) I did message Mark Cuban on BlueSky – did not expect and did not get a response – about him funding an alternative factual outlet to try to amplify the lies being told.
2) Which leads me to wonder where the “liberal” billionaires are. They may be engaged and I just do not know it. Heck, they could engage and have Marcy be a lead informer.
Bottom line, the D(s) continue to play too nice IMHO. Nice is good but shuffle one up to that grey line will you? I hope that if a noticed alternative messaging outlet get seem reporting traction that even the right wing media will at least report on it – not carry it obviously – but reporting on it to make their “persuadable” listeners curious enough to take a peek.
Finally…there must be some pros that can help the D(s) with this. It ain’t me to say the least and maybe these thoughts above are garbage, but for the love of all that is important….
If you’re expecting the media to report on the Dems, you should read the Philly Inquirer.
“Ds that can message – AOC comes to mind – are not fully embraced by the D establishment.”
It is evident the D establishment would rather let fascism happen than wake up the Progressives/Persuadables to how much power we could amass if embraced a more “honest” and narrower message.
You are not getting honesty from Schumer, Booker, Pelosi, Obama or sadly from Hakeem. Bernie is an opportunist when it comes to honesty and AOC should swap him out for Pete Buttigieg.
Now with that said, the local Ds are fairly conservative and it has been interesting to see how much resistance there can be: as I write this all I can think of is MLK Jr. expressing concern about the white liberals desire for order. How has that worked out?
Fortune favors the bold.
“I dunno how effective establishing tit-for-tat messaging outlets to try to nullify the amplified lies…” Responding to blizzard of lies is more time consuming and requires more space than staying on your own message and not being displaced by reactionary rebuttal. Some rebuttal needs to be done but not much.
Also, for a large portion of the MAGA cult Trump’s lies simply do not matter, they’ll just deflect to “we don’t care what he says, we care about policy” and “the ends justify the means.”
Dailykos.com is an existing site if it had more funding. Or HuffPost?
I periodically regret the inability to post pictures here. Today is one of those times. From Politico:
OCEANS RISE, EMPIRES FALL: Trump moved to revoke federal approval of New York City’s congestion pricing program on Wednesday, our NICK REISMAN and RY RIVARD report , writing “CONGESTION PRICING IS DEAD” in a Truth Social post .
But the ending of his post was most notable: “LONG LIVE THE KING.” The official White House X account reposted the note soon after, accompanied by a fake magazine cover showing the president grinning in a crown with the New York City skyline behind him. White House deputy chief of staff TAYLOR BUDOWICH also posted an AI-generated photo of Trump in a crown and robe.”
The picture of him in a crown and robe looks like an oil painting on the cover of Time. Here is a link to it:
https://gvwire.com/2025/02/19/official-white-house-account-declares-trump-king-in-latest-post/
Here is a link to The Guardian’s report:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/19/trump-backlash-social-media-king
The fact that these rectal orifices posted this on the official White House account must be responded to. And loudly. We are currently losing. We need to be responding the way South Korea did. Swiftly, vocally and across all strata of the country.
NYC officials are very happy with the results of congestion pricing – so far.
Should we now refer to him as “His Majesty”?
Say goodbye to elections.
From The Daily Beast: “Trump Signs New Order to Vastly Expand His Presidential Powers”
…”The sweeping order, which claims to promote “Presidential supervision and control of the entire executive branch,” could affect independent agencies like the Federal Election Committee, Federal Communications Commission, Federal Trade Commission, and the Securities and Exchange Commission.”…
“The order appears to be designed to test a once-fringe legal theory, dubbed the unitary executive theory, which holds that the president has sole control over the entire executive branch. It also reflects the growing influence of Trump’s budget chief, Russell Vought, who has long been a proponent of the unitary executive theory.”
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-signs-new-order-to-vastly-expand-his-presidential-powers/
If/when one of Trump’s billionaire accomplices gets the green light to purchase Tic Toc, the messaging media war that the left is losing will become much worse. 2026 elections will be affected with tons more disinformation.
An example of the left losing the culture war to Maga: What was the public’s response to Elon and his 4 year old in the Oval Office holding court, while bored Trump looked on? What would the public Maga response be, if Harris had won the election with 250 million Soros bucks, and Soros was in the Oval Office with his grandkid and holding court? Mayhem.
Thanks, as always, for doing the kind of deep dive that NYTimes and honest media should be doing.
Musk and DOGE are frauds, conducting sham “audits” in order to dismantle government operations for the purpose of privatizing them and insuring that Musk and allies get the lucrative resulting contracts.
Anyone who has worked for a company long enough has been through these kind of “audits”, conducted by unsupervised young auditors with little understanding of the business they are auditing. A glossy report gets issued recommending outsourcing as one way to correct deficiencies.
While the Democrats are not the party in power, they can and should start conducting hearings like they did regarding the private contracts in the Iraq Occupation. Use the hearings to educate the press and public about what audits should entail and why these audits are shams.
I just now logged onto the My Social Security website and pulled up my info. I can see each monthly disbursement by date and amount. From that site I can request a replacement SSA-1099 tax form that reports my SS benefits to the IRS by year. The site contains my name, address, DOB, banking info, beneficiary, and of course my SS#. It undoubtedly comes from the same database that Elmo’s Muskrat gang is pulling from.
They have the ability to uncover specific fraudulent payments to dead 150-year-old pensioners – right down to the penny and bank account. The media knows this, yet they have allowed the RW propaganda echo chamber to have a field day reporting that DOGE has uncovered hundreds of billions in SS payments to long dead recipients. It’s not some programming language or database misunderstanding. It’s a purposeful lie intended to destroy confidence and allow DOGE to enjoy even greater abuse powers.
Let’s demand that legacy media get their shit together and report this DOGE scandal correctly. There are hundreds of reels on Instagram and other sites that continue to spread the lie. Many using Joe Rogan, Elon Musk, and Trump himself as the source. It’s so easily debunked that even a caveman could do it, yet it appears beyond the grasp of the NYT’s, WaPo, USA Today, or CBS.
People should know that all those 150 year olds are an artifact of COBOL programming and not actual recipients of any SocSec checks.