Stephen Miller Claimed Elon Musk Was the One Elected in November
Yesterday, Stephen Miller RTed a propagandist’s attack on Jamie Raskin, in which he reframed Raskin’s legal points — that Congress has the power of the purse, that Elon Musk cannot eliminate agencies created by Congress — by suggesting they were an attack on DOGE’s [sic] efforts to “eliminat[e] waste and fraud.”
Miller suggested Democrats — defending the Constitution — hate democracy, because (Miller said) “voters have the right to elect a president to drain the permanent unelected DC swamp.”
With his RT, the Deputy Chief of Staff of Donald Trump’s White House suggested Elon had been elected.
Elon. Not Trump.
According to Politico, propagandists were posting this argument on Xitter, with Elon RTing them to assert his own legitimacy.
On X, Musk reposted accounts arguing Americans voted for Musk to play a major role in the Trump administration.
But there’s a big difference between Draino and Eric Daugherty suggesting that Elon, not Trump, was elected, and Stephen Miller doing so.
Meanwhile, this NYT article suggests that the White House isn’t in control of what Elon is doing.
Senior White House staff members have at times also found themselves in the dark, according to two officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe sensitive discussions. One Trump official, who was not authorized to speak publicly, said Mr. Musk was widely seen as operating with a level of autonomy that almost no one can control.
[snip]
This time, however, he carries the authority of the president, who has bristled at some of Mr. Musk’s ready-fire-aim impulses but has praised him publicly.
“He’s a big cost-cutter,” Mr. Trump told reporters on Sunday. “Sometimes we won’t agree with it and we’ll not go where he wants to go. But I think he’s doing a great job. He’s a smart guy.”
[snip]
Several former and current senior government officials — even those who like what he is doing — expressed a sense of helplessness about how to handle Mr. Musk’s level of unaccountability. At one point after another, Trump officials have generally relented rather than try to slow him down. Some hoped Congress would choose to reassert itself.
Mr. Trump himself sounded a notably cautionary note on Monday, telling reporters: “Elon can’t do and won’t do anything without our approval. And we’ll give him the approval where appropriate, where not appropriate, we won’t.”
“If there’s a conflict,” he added, “then we won’t let him get near it.”
It depicts a fight that — last week — was pitched as proof that Chief of Staff Susie Wiles had managed to limit Elon’s access to Trump by denying him an office in the West Wing as instead, at least as Elon tells it, a concession about office size.
At one point, Mr. Musk sought to sleep over in the White House residence. He sought and was granted an office in the West Wing but told people that it was too small. Since then, he has told friends he is reveling in the trappings of the opulent Secretary of War Suite in the Eisenhower Executive Office Building, where he has worked some days.
And amid all that, it notes Elon’s ties to Miller, linking a story that focuses on immigration, not destroying government.
He has a close working relationship with Mr. Trump’s top policy adviser, Stephen Miller, who shares Mr. Musk’s contempt for much of the federal work force.
Now, for all its star power, this is not the article you should read to find out what’s going on in the agencies. Wired has, generally, been leading the pack on that front, having IDed the boys Elon has installed, confirmed one of those boys has control over Treasury’s payment systems, recorded the Musk boys’ platitudes about AI, and found that even after PEPFAR was exempted from USAID cuts, it remains unfunded. And if you want to understand where access by these boys to the government’s HR records will lead, read Mike Masnick.
But I want to compare the impotence portrayed by NYT — the refashioning of the office space fight, the anonymous confirmation that few if anyone in the White House know what Elon’s doing, the on the record quotes from a clueless Trump, a lying Karoline Leavitt, and … from Stephen Miller’s spouse, Katie, who has been installed in Elon’s group, that nothing will go wrong here — with the relative success of the two billionaires’ days yesterday.
Trump got his ass handed to him.
After promising big tariffs on our closest trading partners yesterday, he twice announced one month delays on the tariffs, tied to concessions that “Sleepy Joe Biden” actually negotiated, in one case four years ago. Worse still, both Claudia Sheinbaum and Justin Trudeau beat Trump to the microphone, and in Canada’s case, their Ambassador showed up on Fox News to make it clear Canada already agreed to the things Trump was hailing as a big concession, while Biden was still President. Better yet, some journalists have learned the lesson of the Colombia “negotiation,” in which the same thing happened. Leavitt’s lies about concessions may get less and less effective, moving forward, each time she tries to claim that Trump is some great dealmaker.
I suspect that between the time Trump announced tariffs and the time he capitulated, Senators and possibly even Rupert Murdoch told him how insane the tariffs were. I further suspect that these discussions involved a quid pro quo, perhaps tying a Susan Collins vote for Tulsi Gabbard, for example, in exchange for a reversal on tariffs that might affect Maine.
However Trump was talked off that cliff, he got his ass handed to him.
He didn’t even entirely succeed at claiming this was a fight over immigration and fentanyl trafficking, when that excuse was obvious bullshit as it pertains to Canada.
The one bright spot of his day was making a big announcement about a Sovereign Wealth Fund, yet another piece of paper Stephen Miller handed him to sign, probably, but a promise that, like the plan to annex Canada and purchase Greenland, remains unfunded and undiscussed in heated talks in the House and Senate about how to do reconciliation.
As I suggested Friday, so long as Stephen Miller keeps handing Trump papers to sign, he seems content to imagine he’s the President.
Meanwhile, Elon did succeed in getting the Trump-whisperers at NYT to accept that his attack on bureaucracy, which started with an agency with a $40 billion budget, 1% of government expenditures, and has never glanced at the agency with an $800 billion budget that has never passed an audit.
Mr. Musk has told Trump administration officials that to fulfill their mission of radically reducing the size of the federal government, they need to gain access to the computers — the systems that house the data and the details of government personnel, and the pipes that distribute money on behalf of the federal government.
Mr. Musk has been thinking radically about ways to sharply reduce federal spending for the entire presidential transition. After canvassing budget experts, he eventually became fixated on a critical part of the country’s infrastructure: the Treasury Department payment system that disburses trillions of dollars a year on behalf of the federal government.
Mr. Musk has told administration officials that he thinks they could balance the budget if they eliminate the fraudulent payments leaving the system, according to an official who discussed the matter with him. It is unclear what he is basing that statement on. The federal deficit for 2024 was $1.8 trillion. The Government Accountability Office estimated in a report that the government made $236 billion in improper payments — three-quarters of which were overpayments — across 71 federal programs during the 2023 fiscal year.
[snip]
In private conversations, Mr. Musk has told friends that he considers the ultimate metric for his success to be the number of dollars saved per day, and he is sorting ideas based on that ranking.
“The more I have gotten to know President Trump, the more I like him. Frankly, I love the guy,” Mr. Musk said in a live audio conversation on X early Monday morning. “This is our shot. This is the best hand of cards we’re ever going to have.”
This is ridiculous garbage, as are Elon’s daily claims of money he has saved (which NYT accedes elsewhere). You’re not going to eliminate the deficit by shutting down USAID. You will, however, cut off a lot of funding to Ukraine, with Russia laughing gleefully as it watches. As Elon moves onto reviewing individual employees, you’ll cut off employees who’ll have to be replaced by more expensive contractors.
You won’t cut spending appreciably.
Nothing Elon is doing will balance the budget. Nothing Elon is doing will make government more efficient. Hell, his AI boys can’t even tell the difference between a condom and a hospital, and as a direct result, Trump keeps making transparently bogus claims about Gaza funding.
But as we try to get a sense of where the attacks on democracy are coming from, it’s worth noting that the first thing that happened — before the Senate installed one after another of Trumps’ wildly unqualified nominees, and before Congressional Republicans have decided how to defund government themselves — Elon has gone in and started changing code at government agencies, and done so with feeble claims of approval from the White House.
Meanwhile, people who seem to answer to Miller — people like Acting DC US Attorney Ed Martin, one of three January 6 insurrectionists salted through government so far — appear to be working for Elon, not Trump.
Update, February 5: Both NBC and Atlantic are reporting that Susie Wiles claims to be in charge of what Elon is doing.
Great write-up Marcy – a terrific counter measure to the current Rwing propaganda machine.
The felon & Nazi are making Joe &Kamala look really good.
Especially by comparison, Joe and Kamala looked good all along.
We need to remedy legal voters being purged by the millions to permit losers to take power.
Quoting:
https://www.gregpalast.com/trump-lost-vote-suppression-won/
In other words, Democracy can win, despite the 2.3% suppression headwind.
And that’s our job as Americans: to end the purges, the vigilante challenges, the ballot rejections and the attitude that this is all somehow OK.
Martin Luther King gave us our marching orders in 1965, in words just as important today.
“Let us march on ballot boxes, march on ballot boxes until race-baiters disappear from the political arena. I want to say to the people of America and the nations of the world, that we are not about to turn around. We are on the move now.”
Yes, everyone who’s legally eligible should be able to vote. These targeted purges are indeed BS.
Unfortunately, iirc, the number of voters purged last November pales in comparison to the number of voters who DID NOT VOTE AT ALL– ~36%
Also a big problem: more voters stayed home [or whatever] than voted for either major party candidate for POTUS.
I concur with stopping the selective purges. (Remember when the AZ GOP went to court to STOP a purge because most of those on the list were R’s? Pepperidge Farm remembers!)
I also concur with having as many eligible folks as possible registered.
AND, I can’t help also seeing a problem when ~36% of the electorate DIDN’T VOTE last time. That’s more than voted for either FOTUS or Harris. Big, big problem.
Have Congress, the Social Security Administration and/or the big banks indicated any remedy for what Musk has done to steal our most sensitive information and payment systems?
I can’t find such information yet, but I have yet to call the Social Security Administration or my bank. Waiting for what? For them to figure this one out? When to call? Now?
From that link to Mike Masnick: “The pattern is familiar: ExTwitter users spin elaborate red-yarn-on-corkboard conspiracy theories, and Musk treats each one as revealed truth. The result is a government increasingly run on paranoid hallucinated fever dreams rather than expertise – imagine NASA’s Apollo Program being handed over to flat-earth conspiracy theorists while the actual engineers are sidelined, and you’ll get the idea.”
I get the idea. Lord, do I get the idea.
Not for nothing, but change a few words in that snippet and we could be talking about RFK Jr. and the US health system.
The Mike Masnick write up of President Musk and his band of frat boy system engineers is scary enough with the payment and security systems takeovers etc. Musk will have all our info and access and what’s to stop Putin from getting it? We now have to trust Elmo not to give away the farm?
Too late.
A 25-year-old engineer named Marko Elez, who previously worked for two Elon Musk companies, has direct access to the Bureau of the Fiscal Service – a sleepy part of the Treasury Department systems responsible for nearly all payments made by the US government including social security and tax returns.
Elez has already re-coded a major portion of this payment system per two sources.
Per Wired.com: “Two of those sources say that Elez’s privileges include the ability not just to read but to write code on two of the most sensitive systems in the US government: the Payment Automation Manager and Secure Payment System at the Bureau of the Fiscal Service (BFS). Housed on a secure mainframe, these systems control, on a granular level, government payments that in their totality amount to more than a fifth of the US economy.”
https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-associate-bfs-federal-payment-system/
Given that a lot of the underlying code he is rewriting is likely COBOL what do you want to bet he’s using AI to do the actual coding?
He may be an engineer, but he has neither the expertise nor the experience to do any of that stuff.
And if the code is in COBOL, that takes a lot of time to learn. (Sure, it looks like English, but so does BASIC.)
I saw this morning that Hegseth appointed Sean Parnell to be DOD’s chief PR person, and Rubio has appointed Darren Beattie to a top position at Department of State.
Both Parnell and Beattie made multiple appearances on Steve Bannon’s podcast during the coup attempt, where they helped Bannon spin the lies that drove it.
Yeah, there are three kind of implants to worry about. The Heritage people, the Elon people, and the Nazis.
And I increasingly suspect Miller is the one with the juice to see that Nazis get placed to babysit people like Rubio.
The attention is on the cabinet nominees and the various deputy and assistant secretaries who serve underneath them. But watch for the folks serving as their chiefs of staff. That’s where the Nazis will be. They’re not senate confirmed, so they can fly under the radar.
Recall Jeff Sessions, who pissed off Trump by recusing himself from the investigations of Russian interference in the 2016 election, a few months later had BDTS Matthew Whitaker named as his chief of staff.
from Marcy : there are three kind of implants to worry about. The Heritage people, the Elon people, and the Nazis.
Interestingly, no MAGA people to be found.
‘No Maga people to be found’ yet.
I believe they will be in play later, perhaps during protests. Especially J6 Maga.
There might be some overlap in the categories. Plus I’d add in the general, run of the mill control freaks/power grabbers and the fucked up self-haters (which also has their own overlaps.)
Marcy, how much crossover/intersection do you estimate between those three groups? Two weeks ago, I would have said nearly 100%. Now, there appears to be more separation, but with all of them raging rampant through the works, I’m not sure if the distinction even matters unless there’s something that could cause major infighting between them in the short/medium term.
This is a good question: the competing interests of those three groups should be analyzed as a point of attack for us.
I would categorize them, though, as the theocrats, tech moguls, and racists/nativists. Within the theocrats is Heritage (and the pre-Vatican II/Opus Dei national cohort they represent), the pre- and post-millenial Evangelicals, and (weirdly) flat-out worshipers of the demigod Trump (with their sacramental merch tables at his rallies). The latter group, however, does not participate in the current disestablishment of the United States except as cheerleaders and as a polling/voting bloc.
As you can see, schism possibilities are written all over even just the theocrat contingent. Evangelicals for the most part haven’t rid themselves of distrust of the “Papists,” and the Opus Dei school’s historical showcase was Franco’s Spain where Protestants were anathema.
Abortion was recently taken up as an Evangelical banner only since Hillary became the conservative boogie-woman. It’s an abortion-arranged marriage of convenience for those two camps. And the Trump worshipers are so focused on Trump himself, they won’t notice even if those other theocrats begin to start swinging elbows.
The two “Christian” components of the theocrat category will have an underlying antipathy toward the tech bros who are transparently areligious, big-swinging-dick types who themselves for aspire to demigodhod — indeed several think they’ve achieved it! This is anathema, literally, to the theocrats who only tolerate Trump’s blasphemous persona for the hypocritical sake of their theocratic project. And the Trump worshipers would not brook their revered demigod being eclipsed. It all has the feel of a tenuous balance of components that could be disrupted by a phase-change of some kind, possibly a theological argument cropping up somehow.
In the opposite direction, the bros will find the theocrats’ piety quaintly annoying, but will only spar with them if they disrupt their own project of privateering the USofA.
The racist/nativists (some of whom wax Evangelical) are only interested in Jim Crow 2.0, and provoking them is anything but a good idea. If they get back in attack mode, it means we’re in for a civil war at that point.
BRUCE F COLE says:
February 4, 2025 at 8:22 pm
Abortion became their banner after the Happy Meal arrived, so by 1980. It was part of St Ronnie’s campaign – my mother changed her registration to D because of that.
@PJ Evans | Yes abortion was THE way Reagan unified his version of conservatism with evangelicalism via his presidency and the ‘Moral Majority.’
Supposedly Elon and his goons have all the FAFSA’s I’ve submitted for my kids over the years, so they know I’m a loser, which sucks.
Rest assured. They don’t have time to read every application and take the time to determine: Left or Right.
But they will sic some malformed AI on all of our data which will determine our fate. Since no one knows how-the-fuck the AI reaches its decisions, Plausible Deniability!
“Mr. Musk has told administration officials that he thinks they could balance the budget if they eliminate the fraudulent payments leaving the system, according to an official who discussed the matter with him. It is unclear what he is basing that statement on.”
That’s exactly the surface-level thinking I’ve come to expect from him. I’m sure he thinks it’s trivial because all the fraudulent payments already pass through it; they just have to identify the bad ones.
Seems more like a straight-up lie. Elmo has no data on which to base that claim, and no authority to stop payments without assessing the USG’s rights under each relevant contract.
As with Xitter, he’s just breaking stuff, assuming it will come out all right in the end. When you own it all, that hurts no one but yourself. He might think he does, but he doesn’t own the USG. Neither does Tump. But he’s also acquiring a shitload of extraordinarily sensitive data that could easily be abused and/or commercialized.
and data ripe for extortion and blackmail. btw, where are all the rich people worried about their data privacy?
Straight up lie. Breaking stuff. Is the eventual point civil disorder?
Musk is performing for the MAGA audience, for unleashed budget hawks, and, probably, for history too.
Does Musk consider himself one of the greatest men to ever come along in world history? The personality disorders diagnose themselves.
Is the eventual point civil disorder?
Yes. They will force the issue to attempt to institute the crackdown, insurrection act. One of the reason Trump freed all his brown shirts. Many of them are waiting for the call up.
Well, Scott Bessent acting treasury secretary is being sued by SEIU, AFGE and Alliance for Retired Americans for giving Skum access to their data.
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/25512243-complaint-for-declaratory-and-injunctive-relief/
Apologies if i did this incorrectly
Just spit ballin’ here…so two things can be true.
1) Trump – and maybe even most of the WH staff/advisors – don’t know in sufficient detail what Musk (and others maybe) are doing.
2) But I’ll bet Stephen Miller does – and maybe a very few others.
I wonder if Miller is covered by the cloak of invincibility that SCOTUS bestowed on Trump and the Presidency writ large re: official acts. I suppose so if one tries to get Miller through Trump directly or indirectly.
Can Miller be targeted directly – metaphorically speaking?
If Miller is breaking the law, he can be prosecuted. The cloak of “Presidential Immunity” created by John Roberts applies only to the President. Miller has no immunity, unless he receives a Presidential pardon. Nor has Musk. Of course, you would need a Department of Justice willing to investigate and enforce the law, or a Congress willing to impeach and remove its head for failing to do so. Unfortunately while we have a Republican Senate and House, with Pam Bondi at DOJ and Kash Patel heading the FBI, nothing will be done. The only realistic avenues are to inform the public and, where appropriate, ask the Courts to injunct officials who are breaking the law.
Thank you.
Yes, of course Federal criminality…
Hell, I’d settle for old fashioned civil lawsuits or a creative state AG salvo.
I realize I am stretching here…and trying to keep my deepest emotionally driven “solutions” at bay to stay within the realm of “civil” behavior.
Just spit balling myself, but there are two other jurisdictions in which a lot of federal facilities are found, Northern Virginia and Maryland. Although I know bmaz would disapprove, if there are applicable laws that could have been broken in either of those states, might there be some leverage, as well?
I just contacted my state AG (CT). I think democratic AGs are waiting for enough ordinary people like me to get together and sue. I was told they are getting a lot of calls. So….. maybe something will happen. Too late probably.
I wonder if (blue) state AGs might be best situated to start working on offense here. At least they don’t have the disadvantage of being in minorities like congress folks and senators.
Do you honestly think trump doj or fbi would investigate miller. Musk or any trumpers for crimes?
If we actually have a real election in 28 and dems win they’ll all get pardons on trump’s way out.
Increasingly it’s looking like trump is a simple minded figurehead.
I believe that in addition to “simple minded figure head”, one could legitimately add traitor for giving our enemies aid and comfort – lord let me count the ways. He also appears to be committing treason by allowing unelected person(s) to brazenly break laws that are specifically outlined in our constitution.
Since Elon and the Neverland Boys are presumed to have ‘stolen’ financial information on any and all citizens, it will be important for state-generated law suits once harm is noted at that level.
Forget Florida and Texas, but Virginia is an obvious place for harm to be identified, and we have a likely switch back to a Dem governor (but not until November). But even before that there are judges who could get things started. Also: California, New York, Maryland, Washington State, and many others.
Just asking … if a federal government employee (or someone who is an intern for an unelected “special government employee”) could be vulnerable to STATE prosecutions for violating the state’s criminal code on privacy?
I found this post by Mike Brock at techdirt to be a real clarion call for the moment we are in, so I thought it should be shared.
A Coup Is In Progress in America
[Moderator’s note: URL has been edited to remove tracking. Please do this before sharing links in the future. /~Rayne]
A good follow-up post by Mike Brock at techdirt:
To Stop The Coup, We Must Be Clear About The Truth: Two Plus Two Equals Four
Also, Anne Applebaum was on The Bulwark podcast today talking about Elon Musk and the authoritarian takeover that is happening right now in the U.S.
One element of Elon’s work to cut employees is the need to trash federal employee unions, which (per GovExec) OPM is rolling out with all due speed:
More at the link, including an analysis of just how flimsy this OPM memo is.
Thank you for the links, Peterr.
I find the title of the Trump memo, attached to the OPM memo, as outrageous as the content of the whole thing: “Limiting Lame-Duck Collective Bargaining Agreements That Improperly Attempt to Constrain the New President.” — Beware of the language!
And what I don’t understand: Is it really possible to order by a memo? I thought the EOs were for orders, and the memos only for understanding or interpretation. Yet the preamble to Trump’s memo reads “By the authority vested in me as … , it is hereby ordered:”
Yes, it is possible to order by memo. EOs lay out the 30,000 foot picture of what the president wants to happen. Other orders and memos spell out the details. “OK, here’s how we’re going to implement EO #xxxxxxx”
Thanks for your reply. It’s not so far from my previous understanding because I’m missing the mention of the original order. Even the “Return to Work In-Person” was only a memorandum. But maybe I’ve overlooked something.
Where the hell did “management rights” come from? This seems on a par with the Major Questions Doctrine–one of those concepts engineered by those in power, labeled and enforced to perpetuate their power.
It’s a direct deduction from Art. 2 of the Constitution that gives the president unlimited executive power. /s
“Management rights” is a long-standing foundational concept in labor law/collective bargaining negotiations. That doesn’t mean it’s being properly applied here.
Thanks to P-Villain and John Paul jones for answering my question. As a grateful union member at my university, I became familiar with reading contracts–none of which included that phrase. I *have* seen it elsewhere, but I think you were right, P-Villain: it’s the way it was used here that stuck in my craw.
In many jurisdictions, anything not specifically negotiated into the contract automatically falls into the area of management rights. This is why union negotiators like to make sure every i is dotted and every t is crossed.
How true. Its why some contracts have a clause which people wonder about, but its an attempt to cover just about everything not covered. Sometimes Unions have to become very “creative” to make a link.
There needs to be a viral campaign to continually identify Musk as the president and Trump as his (impotent) vice president. Musk is doing grave damage that must be stopped tout suite. The only way that seems feasible is to make Trump sour on him rapidly and ax him. Given Trump’s narcissism, he can’t be seen to be outshined by anyone. If a general perception exists that Musk is effectively the president, Trump would feel he needs to act to counter it.
I feel like memes are the best way to effectuate this amongst a critical mass of the public, but generating virality seems a herculean task.
A Soverign Wealth Fund is a big empty thing without details, until details are produced, then, good details, or problematic ones? Some nations besides the Kingdom of Saudia Arabia exist with managed SWFs. Norway seems to have North Atlantic oil income, so is that their basis of Norwegian saving for a rainy day?
New Zeland? What are they holding, since Wealth Funds can make money or lose it, the market can cut both ways?
Safe and prudent investment, Treasury bonds. The problem there, is a US SWF holding Treasuries is something of a circle jerk. We issue them, service the debt rate, and that debt income would go from Treasury to the SWF, so where’s the value added; and if instread, you buy crypto and equity stocks, you could lose big, i.e., buying Tesla as the EV market evolves or Nvidia at bubble prices.
Buying Tesla would goose up demand and Elon’s paper wealth would boost; but how good of a long term investment is it?
There are a host of worries and pitfalls, so saying let’s have an SWF is like saying let’s build out a bigger Navy. It might be a good idea, or not, and experienced people with expertise built out over time analyze such things and with head hunting going on, what’s the prospects of having the skilled workforce for it? One better than what’s there already?
A workforce more loyal to Trump can be built, that can be done, but would it be more effective, or less?
Some of this stuff is going to come around and bite Trump on the ass, and he probably knows that but keeps the story hot and believed for now. He is being given the driver’s seat, but this post suggests he gets prodded about on where to drive the car. Not good.
If, however, he is fathering these measures solely from between his ears, you have to worry about his private sector track record, the casino binge, Trump University, thin stuff like that from an inherited rental property wealth base.
Did he enlarge the wealth or lessen it but buying name recognition?
Healthcare is a giant chunk of federal spending, and he’s silent on running it better. Ditto, as Marcy pointed out, the Pentagon. And before U.S. Aid gets sacked, what of it is intelligence sector related – but sanitized in appearances that “aid” way? Aid providers get to see what is going on in the areas where they administer aid accounts, talking to people and paying out funds as the overall picture may dictate. There can be hidden bribes aid bribe takers who have something on their side to trade.
Musk wasn’t on any ballots in November, and he should GTFO of our pockets and OUR government.
I know that currently Trump is breaking a lot of china but stopping Elon seems like the most dangerous threat that needs to be dealt with immediately. He is I fear the world’s most dangerous man with all he controls particularly Star Link and his relationship with Putin and Xi.
He does not have America’s best interests guiding him.
I heard yesterday there were some in person protests outside USAID and Treasury. We need to make those bigger, much bigger. It’s not like the FBI is going to investigate his actions.
Congress seems absolutely paralyzed and lawsuits take time. This is the moment when mass protests need to start happening to show Congress how deeply people resent and fear Elon’s actions. We have to start showing up and making noise.
Agreed. I think a good starting point would be to do something similar to what Trump and his allies did on Jan 6, 2021, except with thinking and peaceful protestors. The contrast between thinking, peaceful adults and what happened on that Jan 6 would make for great TV.
After all, Trump is a performance artist. So Dems need to do the same thing, but showing America how protests are actually done. Get Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren to give speeches and march to the capitol, without, you know, actually rioting and breaking in.
I agree, but it would need to be very precisely worked out. As we all recall, their projection and every-accusation-is-a-confession MO would probably mean that THEIR agents provocateurs would be planted to try to foment violence and the requisite fascist response from the schoolyard bullies. Remember, January 6 was all antifa, BLM, etc. No shame on their dishonesty, especially the holy rollers who advertise their piety.
When Trump got elected, one sliver of hope we had was that Trump is too incompetent, and this incompetence can protect us and limit the damage he could make. But now that he teamed up with Musk(rat), his South African entrepreneur friend is a much more competent and therefore dangerous autocrat. This is why I 100% agree. Stopping him should be first priority.
Trumps a figurehead, in addition musk. Miller and others are calling the shots.
Tomorrow is the 50 demonstrations day at all 50 capitols. Show up or at least get your acquaintances who live near your capitol to go.
Love you, Molly, but HOLD THE FUCK UP. Before pushing any rally/protest/demonstration, do your homework.
– Is there an actual human organizer or human-populated group organizing the event?
– Did they take out a permit for an event?
– Who is funding the event’s promotion/marketing?
– Can you validate the information about the event against a second credible source?
This shit happened in 2016 where fake rallies were created by Russian operatives, and we’ve already forgotten that. DO YOUR VETTING BEFORE COMMITTING TO ANY EVENT. DON’T TALK ABOUT IT ONLINE WITHOUT VETTING FIRST.
And DO NOT PROMOTE EVENTS HERE UNLESS YOU’VE DONE THE VETTING FIRST. We do not need visits from brownshirts in 4-door sedans, thank you, and attendees do not need to be identified by brownshirts as future concentration camp occupants.
ADDER: This was shared on line regarding the same “movement” rallies —

If your vetting checks out, then I beg you to do take appropriate privacy and security measures, including telling others who won’t be attending where you are going and how long you will be and when you will check back in with them.
EFF’s @[email protected] shared these helpful links:
There actually were demonstrations.
https://www.sfgate.com/news/politics/article/protests-against-trump-and-project-2025-are-20148038.php
Reply to P J Evans
February 5, 2025 at 4:32 pm
Right. And people showed up in 2016 at the Russian-generated events, too.
Demonstrators showed up today, and now folks like Catie who attended an event in Lansing MI can be easily identified because not only did she show up but she gave at least one reporter her name.
You’ll note the same reporter(s) didn’t bother to report who did/didn’t organize the event, get a quote from them, or confirm that the event had a permit in Lansing or anywhere else. Fucking media, the same ones which have been spied on, just rolled over and played dead yet again.
Reminds me of the rallies in Florida in 2016 that Susie Wiles denied she had any knowledge of. And the ones that “Phil” attended and took photos of people on a college campus in the northeast.
*nods*
Democrat lawmakers and hundreds of citizens, are protesting outside the Treasury building right now:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/04/democrats-protest-elon-musk-treasury-washington
Skum needs to be legally removed and his young male groupies w him. I am not a lawyer. How can this be accomplished?
O/T Cassidy caved on RFK, Jr and the nomination has advanced.
I saw a clip of Senator Kennedy today making the distinction between the ‘process oriented’ Democrats and the ‘substance-oriented’ Republicans—so, between the rule of law and starving the administrative state.
The Republicans seem united in doing the experiment where the hypothesis is: the Constitutional order will stretch to accommodate the decades-long dream of “drowning the government in a bathtub.”
No, the Republican’s are not united in that experiment.
Some clearly have that as their goal. Others have no desire to head down that road, but they fear the hatred that will rain down on them if they stand in Trump’s way, and fear the inevitable MAGA primary opponent that will arise against them, with Musk-like money behind that candidate’s campaign.
And then I think of Lisa Murkowski. She bucked Trump, lost her primary, and then won in a write-in campaign, in part because the Dems decided to back her rather than run a candidate who would get crushed.
Let me say that again: Murkowski lost to a MAGA candidate in the primary, and won the general election.
I was more than a little disappointed that Bill Cassidy voted to pass RFK Jr’s nomination onto the Senate floor for a vote. It’s clear from his post-vote statement that he is scared as hell, and trying to inoculate himself from the day that *will* come, when RFK fks up the US public health system. Cassidy’s remarks tried to box RFK in, putting the words said in private into the public sphere, but ask Susan Collins about Brett Kavanaugh’s private assurances re Roe v Wade.
Cassidy doesn’t want to drown government in a bathtub, especially the public health part of it — but that’s what he just voted to do. It would be nice if Murkowski could sit down with Cassidy and Collins (and others who have probably privately conferred with her) before RFKs nomination comes to the floor, to talk them out of doing the idiotic out of fear and into doing the obvious out of devotion to public health.
Murkowski won the 2010 elections as a write-in. In 2022, she beat her rival who was backed by both Trump and her own party due to the Alaskan ranked-choice voting system. It’s true that that was done with the Dems backing her, but she in turn backed the Democratic candidate for the House. That was Mary Peltola who beat Sarah Palin in the ranked-choice system. (Peltola was the incumbent in November 2022 after she had won a special election that summer — and was the first Alaska Native member of Congress. Unfortunately she lost her reelection last fall.)
But yes, I agree with you that Lisa Murkowski is a good example not to give in.
Too bad Murkowski didn’t do the honorable thing during the first impeachment.
Replying to Konny . . .
Thanks for the correction on the date. I remembered she was primaried from the right, but (as you rightly point out) it was the earlier Tea Party crowd, not a specific Trump targeting.
Ur-MAGA, if you will.
Senator Kennedy knows that’s bullcrap. He’s interested in *his* power and privilege, and thinks that people to his left are all idjits…but he hasn’t checked in that mirror in the last 10 years.
Sen. John Kennedy of LA is a Vanderbilt, UVa, Oxford grad with two law degrees, who dresses up as a good ol’ boy and sits atop the political structure of a state with the worst poverty, education, and pubic health record in the country. He’s proud of what he does to stay there, and would do it all over again just for fun.
The fundamental flaw in GOP reasoning is that Musk or Convict-1 or the commissars or Putin / Xe will give them any power once they succeed in trashing the USA. No different than the events in Germany in the 1930s in that respect.
Read First Draft on Bill Cassidy. While Cassidy thinks he’s saving himself, it’s a fool’s errand.
Major corps do these all the time to please shareholders:
*as Dr. Wheeler indicates above, cut off employees who’ll have to be replaced by more expensive contractors (As Elon moves onto reviewing individual employees)
*sell debt to pay shareholder dividends.
Do these ever work?
I found this post on Musk’s intrusion into our systems at Treasury to be enlightening.
As they say in the real world of business: if it ain’t broke, fix it.
This is the follow up piece of today’s date
https://www.crisesnotes.com/day-five-of-the-trump-musk-treasury-payments-crisis-of-2025-not-read-only-access-anymore/
Of Marko Elez “read and write” access to the code Tankus states:
‘Additionally, I can exclusively report that while there was initial hesitation from “IT Leadership” to give them access, they relented. However, they still believed this was extremely risky with one member of leadership saying “I’ve never done anything like this before”, according to a source familiar with the situation. A current IT employee of the Bureau of the Fiscal Service told me “This level of unchecked access is critically dangerous to the economy and the government”. When I replied “this is terrifying” to being informed that they have “write access” this source replied “Yeah it’s not good. Read privileges on its own still would have left room for catastrophe, but read and write is apocalyptic.”’
Further
‘One source explicitly said that they were only reporting to me because there was no one left in the Federal Government to report security breaches to:
“I do not wish to harm my agency in any way. I loved working here. We did some of the most important work in the country and barely anyone knew who we were. In normal times, I would report insider threats to the appropriate security channels inside the government- but there is no one left for me to report it to.”
Thus, my sources have unfortunately confirmed many of my worst fears about this situation.’
I read that they’re MAKING CHANGES TO THE WORKING CODE.
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/musk-cronies-dive-into-treasury-dept-payments-code-base
This is a no-no everywhere I’ve ever worked. You do it in a test system first, to see where the bugs are and what kind of interactions you’re about to break.
You can see that these guys have zero experience in the real world, and I’m including President Musk in that group.
From the Tankus piece today
“All that is known is that Marko can “access and query” SPS [Secured Payment System] and that there was someone who gave Marko a “tour” of the facilities. We do not know where they are in operationalizing any control. One senior IT source can see Mark retrieving “close to a thousand rows of data” but they can’t see the content because the system is “top secret” even to them. No source I have has knowledge of what DOGE is doing with the data they are retrieving. “
Tankus is also at pains explain the distinction between the IT people who look after the modern elements of the system and the COBOL programmers who look after the legacy systems of which there is a great deal and are not only antique, but also arcane due to internal work arounds and systems developments, so incredibly fragile to interference.
One of the guys doing this according to wired is a 19 yo high school grad!
I note that Musk has hypocritically complained that naming the DOGE ‘plumbing team’ is doxxing and threatened criminal consequences
Discussed here
https://www.forbes.com/sites/petersuciu/2025/02/04/doge-employees-identified-on-x–doxing-or-case-of-free-speech/
And U.S. Attorney Edward R. Martin Jr (apparently the head honcho of the latter day Sicherheitsdienst des Reichsführers-SS ) has made noises supportive of Musk who has posted “Don’t Mess with @DOGE”
The Independent has published a list of the 7 with some additional details about the individuals https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/elon-musk-doge-trump-marko-elez-age-b2692402.html
No one left to report to is why Inspector Generals were first ousted. Are you to call Ghostbusters? Who else? Trump has Congress and SCOTUS, so it came down to “We can do it, so the question is sequencing.” Can they propagandize it to scorched earth is a pubic good?
I guess tomorrow I’ll ask my Senators and MoC why they can’t get the GAO involved.
Because there is an investigative body under legislative control.
https://www.house.gov/the-house-explained/legislative-branch-partners/government-accountability-office#:~:text=The%20Government%20Accountability%20Office%20(GAO,benefit%20of%20the%20American%20people.
SteveBev says:
February 5, 2025 at 12:45 am
I wouldn’t dox them. But I *would* give their contact information to every telemarketer and spammer I could find.
Anyone who has not already frozen their credit files should do so now. I’m frankly surprised that this .gov page still exists–someone more clever than I should archive it. Anyone receiving SS or other federal payments needs to be watching their bank accounts closely to make sure it’s not being fcked up. https://www.usa.gov/credit-freeze
every day since the inauguration of the mad king…
I’m not more clever, but I know the internet archive.
2 simple steps if you want to be polite, skip step 1 if you don’t.
Go to https://web.archive.org/
Step 1 (nice): paste the url you are interested in saving in the wayback machine enter url box at the top and you’ll see the dates that page has been archived. For pages that don’t change hourly, if it has a copy from today or yesterday, don’t bother with step 2.
Step 2: go back to that web.archive.org page, and paste the url you are interested in in the box on the right under “save page now”, and click save page. On the next page you may or may not want to uncheck the save error messages box, then click on the save button.
Also: Thanks Rayne above for the clear guidance on real or fake protests & demonstrations! I didn’t want to thank you above by making you moderate a thank you comment, but I can add my thanks to this comment without increasing your workload. Thanks for all you do on moderation here.
Looks like there may be the potential for some action from the suit filed by Kel Mcclanahan:
“Federal Workers Sue to Disconnect DOGE Server” – 2/4/25
“Two federal workers, citing reports that Elon Musk’s associates are operating an illegally connected email server at OPM, seek a restraining order.”
https://www.wired.com/story/federal-workers-sue-over-doge-server/
There’s nobody left to enforce a court order. This is Andrew Jackson on ketamine and steroids.
It seems we have forgotten PCP also known as Angel Dust.
There’s also the civil lawsuit filed yesterday by 3 unions of federal workers, saying that DOGE’s access to their private financial data held by Treasury is violating a bunch of laws.
According to this courtlistener page for that case, it has been assigned to Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly. But this case will be too slow to save America… it looks like defendants have 60 days to answer the summons, assuming they even bother.
AFSCME should be suing because of the “lame-duck contract” stuff – contracts are only lame-duck when they’re being renegotiated and people are working under the old rules while without one.
The Felon Guy, however, IS a lame duck.
PLAINTIFFS’ MOTION FOR A TEMPORARY RESTRAINING ORDER.
Assuming this is granted, anyone want to bet whether they will comply with it?
There are at least two suits by FBI employees, one including their association.
Group,
I’m calling my Rep/Sens’ offices (I recommend the in-state ones)and asking the answering intern if Rep/Sen X is in favor of, or against, identity theft. If they say “against,” I then ask when they are going to impeach Treasury Secretary Bessent for facilitating the, most likely, largest data breach in world history.
datnotdat
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Sorry Rayne
Datnotdat
Great write up, but there is one point being missed, that Marcy dances around. Leon just committed the ultimate hack of personal data. I have no doubt that, at minimum, they (Musk et al.) are already siphoning that off into Musk’s Grok AI system. This data can also be leased to folks such as Putin. They certainly went for the jugular under the smokescreen provided by the blitzkrieg of side distractions.
Elez, mentioned above, has been working on AI search. Reportedly, some of his programming is on github.
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Thanks Rayne, a pure typo. My browser contains no cache and no cookies, passwords, etc. are saved. All are purged at closing (and sometimes during a session using the ‘forget button’)
I know Instagram is Meta, but AOC has a magnificent 90 minute reel explaining the crisis in simple terms any adult can understand. She does a superb job of connecting the many, many dots.
Also on U-Toob. I concur and
HIGHLY RECOMMEND.
She’s even got a reasonable answer for “Where are the Dems?!” (Congress was recessed, Elmo and Co deliberately waited, and also worked over the weekend. They’re back now.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVgNJf6CsBA
OT sort of.
I have found myself remembering my days as a camp counselor and the creative pranks by campers that cleared the cabins out, the shower house, and the dining hall. All very creative and usually messy. Campers’ creativity evacuated EVERYBODY out of the various camp facilities. Usually their efforts interrupted the camp daily schedule. Some kids got caught and sent home, still usually their efforts were a disruption success. Boy could the campers resist!
OT: You can no longer get funding for doing research on racism, women, or anything with the word “systematic”, according to an NSF memo.
https://bsky.app/profile/darbysaxbe.bsky.social/post/3lhcvn4hxwk2o
https://bsky.app/profile/keithboykin.bsky.social/post/3lhf5a7bdlk2n
February 4, 2025 at 5:47 PM [VIDEO]
[5:39 PM] Rep. Ayana PRESSLEY [D-Ma]:
Here’s one thing, a word combination you don’t hear too often being a function of the executive, installing “snitch networks” in the civil service. Isn’t that weird as hell? It’s in the byline of a Rolling Stone article how Trump and Elon are trying to use bullying and snitch networks to stop a geyser of leaks.
I was talking about AI before and got beat up, as usual, but who else can’t believe what’s happening to federal data and fucking Elon Musk. What information is Elon Musk removing from the government? Sure I am wrong, but maybe they’ve gotten ahead of their AI, or maybe the question is what data is Elon taking out? That is a new question. Elon has his private processing power, his snitch networks, and the government’s own information, vast stores of it apparently. Who knows?
I think he has all my FAFSAs. That kind of sucks, if I had to look him in the eye, would he think I’m less of a man? Where the hell is Rooster Cockburn? A lawman needs to Rooster Cockburn Elon Musk’s ass, lawfully. You know what I mean? Fuck that.
It might have been helpful for NYT to perform a couple of simple calculations for their readers: Per the CBO total outlays for 2023 were $6.1 trillion, so overpayments amounted to roughly 3% of government expenditures in 2023 (((236 * 0.75) / 6100) = ~0.029), or about 10% of the deficit (((236 * 0.75) / 1800) = ~0.098).
President Elon, who’s the one perpetrating fraud?
We could start with SpaceX and the bird hellsite. Everything they do for DOD, for one.
I don’t understand what Mr. Musk is up to. It worries me. The claim that he needs access to the Treasury computers seems like a blatant falsehood. Over on the Fox News site everyone is taking his claims at face value and happily dancing about the new transparency that Mr. Musk is introducing. But most of the non-classified spending is ALREADY publicly available. Isn’t it usaaccounting.gov ? The site that the reporters use to get into the weeds of federal spending. Plus, Mr. Musk doesn’t need that access to stop payments, Trump can do that with executive orders.
And the “fraudulent NGO” or whatever that Musk was tweeting wasn’t discovered by his team, that’s just repeating a rw talking point.
This access seems ripe for abuse, and so it likely will be abused.
But even more than embezzlement or causing harm by stopping payments, I worry something else is afoot, like destroying the dollar itself or trying to switch everything to cryptocurrency like Nicaragua. But this is not my area of expertise and I’m out over my skis with even these suggestions.
Crypto seems likely – it’s really been pushed by President Musk and by Thiel.
President Musk from Mars wanting to rule Earth.
Greed, grift and domination. It’s like watching a video game to defeat, destroy and control. High toxic testosterone of power, however extremely dangerous in physical reality.
Having people such as Musk and his gang accessing government computers is dangerous. They don’t have clearance and heaven knows what they can do and what they will access. They could probably stop all federal government workers’ pay cheques going out. If they won’t resign, starve them out.
I’m quite sure Musk and his “boys” are having a good look at a lot of files to find anything which can be used against people. Expect Musk to continue to be permitted to play with the government computers until all the information is either ruined or changed. There probably isn’t anything to prevent Musk and Co. from issuing cheques which benefit themselves or others.
This playing with the computers will most likely go on until some one’s private details are spilled and the shit hits the fan. Don’t know what is on those computers and how detailed the records are but if they access military and civil workers personnel files and those of politicians there could be problems. Some of those in the Republican Party might want to give that a thought.
Thank you Rayne for outlining all the things that need to be done when having successful protests. The last thing you want is for protesters and organizers to be arrested for things which could have been prevented.
Rubio’s deal with El Salvador’s Bukele to house US prisoners (including citizens) in the Central American country may play into the interest in crypto. Bukele has had Bitcoin as legal tender, though the legislature recently voided the attempt. Trump claims it would be cheaper to house prisoners there, opening, one assumes, a path to kickbacks.
UGH!
The full Senate just confirmed Pam Bondi (as expected) 54-46 with the single Democratic vote for her being John Fetterman…
Several weeks ago, Rayne had a post about the Bluebeard folktale. I countered with The Emperor’s New Clothes. Today I think we need to cover “The Goose that Laid the Golden Eggs”. And, as it applies to Republicans more generally, the idiom about “the dog who caught the car.” (I see online that like “toe/tow the line” it has lost its original meaning, which is that the dog is dead. Or, for anyone under 40, injured enough to learn a lesson.)
As in 2020, with the pandemic, it’s still not clear to me how much poverty and death they are intending to bring, at least here, in the U.S. But if I were in a leadership role, I would be moving locally to mitigate both, starting with the most vulnerable, and doing so quietly. I think self-directed boycotts and being watchful and strategic are more helpful than protests at this point.
For those worried about their data, that is as real a concern as it would be with any criminal organization. Accounting firms are regularly targeted. Every year the IRS handles cases where refunds are claimed by someone else. Here’s hoping our banking system can and will still respond, but, if we make it ’til then, tax season could be a fiasco.
I would also believe that these lawbreakers could refine their dataset to target people or groups or parts of the country (i.e. the exchange with Mike Flynn about fraud by “Lutherans”) but not that they are piping it through “AI” to do some imaginary who-knows-what. As many have pointed out, not all government spending data is secret to begin with. Please don’t give them credit where none is due.
Now we’re writing a new folktale — the Leopards Who Ate Their Faces.
*smdh*
Now that we have more news about the players involved in this game, as well as a DeepSeek update (backdoor to Chinese server), I want to update my comment to suggest that this could be a mashup of Edward Snowden meets Facebook & X, where programming code and data are being moved off-site/overseas for other actors to work with it.
Also, Trump’s comments today about our air traffic control system are ludicrous and I will be watching for any tech-focused reporting or explainers to come out of that.
I serve as an external peer reviewer for the US Dept of Education’s biannual “American History and Civics Education” grants program. I just got a midnight email from “[email protected]” cancelling my access to the online system where the grant files are stored. Routine system maintenance, as the last grant cycle ended in 2023? Maybe. Or, maybe some so-called “DOGE” person deciding there won’t be a 2025 grant competition, or, indeed, there won’t be any more US Dept of Education?
When looking at things happening in sequence, have we a record of how Putin consolidated power? Too many like to say Hitler. Putin has oligarchs in tow, on the team and prospering. Looking at how he attained what he has attained might inform things? Any individual can be crushed by force, and enough people made examples can quell enthusiasms. Putin is alleged to use long prison terms in tough prisons, and high floors of buildings. Nothing like that is yet happening here. Apparently.
“Nothing like that is yet happening here. Apparently.”
At The Bulwark: Tim Miller (host) and Anne Applebaum (author of “Gulag: A History”) have a very recent podcast that is informative.
Here is a link to watch that podcast. Its definitely worth a listen.
OT:
Good news! Resistance in my county:
https://patch.com/pennsylvania/norristown/ice-requests-will-not-be-honored-norristown-without-warrant
MAGA rich kids in daddy’s Jaguar dressing up as ICE agents:
https://www.inquirer.com/news/ice-impersonation-temple-student-custody-20250203.html
Yeah, I know I’m assuming they’re MAGA. I’ll apologize if proved wrong.
I’ll apologize if this was covered elsewhere, but the Gaza news announced yesterday showed the fine hand of Jared (who had been rather quiet) getting his F-i-L to acquire his beachfront property. Remember that Jared needs to justify his 2 B$ stake fronted by MBS.
For MBS it’s going to be a party zone like Monaco. He also gets to flex his influence over Convict-1 by making him do stuff he really doesn’t want. One wonder how all of the ones who voted against Harris in November for their perceived concern for Gaza feel today.
“Update, February 5: Both NBC and Atlantic are reporting that Susie Wiles claims to be in charge of what Elon is doing.”
Add her to the lawsuits, then. I hope her assertion of authority bites her hard.
Then she’s going to be responsible for everything that gets broken by DOGE. I hope that bites her.
A question and a comment:
1. With court cases bubbling up all over, what compels the Executive Branch to comply with a court’s orders and decisions?
2. When will the Republicans in Congress realize that their acquiescence towards Trump actions steadily erodes the authorities outlined in the Constitution? Once Elon and his “little green men” get the IT stuff figured out, the Executive Branch can move the money anywhere and for any purpose.
3. Bonus Question: Will Trump grant Elon a preemptive pardon?
From AP, Trump’s demand that US aid workers return home sparks outrage in Washington and anxiety overseas:
Yeah, right. Instead of reviewing each program and then shutting some of them down, they decided to blow up the entire USAID agency, destroying billions of dollars worth of aid programs that took years or decades to build. Everyone laid off, clinics and other facilities closing… this isn’t something that they can just reverse a week or two later. By then all of the damage will have been done.
It really gives the lie to their claim that all of this is about “government efficiency”. If these tools cared at all about any of the programs USAID is running, they wouldn’t have blown them up in a fashion that causes tens or hundreds of millions of dollars to be wasted and would take months or years to repair.
Perhaps they will quickly do the same thing to the Department of Education and a few others, and then maybe the broader swath of Americans will start to realize what is at stake here.
Am I the only person here who saw Wonkette’s explanation for the immediate attack on USAID (https://www.wonkette.com/p/what-usaid-was-investigating-musks), which cited The Lever (https://www.levernews.com/from-watergate-to-elon-gate/, free but you have to subscribe to read it)? Apparently USAID’s Inspector General announced in Congressional testimony that, as part of an ongoing audit, it was investigating “USAID’s oversight of Starlink Satellite Terminals provided to the Ukrainian government.”
I try to read everything here, but I’m human and may have missed this. Please forgive me if I did.
So it’s come out that the 19-year-old Muskovite has a “business” hosting websites for, among others, Russians. And has been in contact with both Russians and Chinese, and apparently solicited hosts for a DDOS attack.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2025/2/6/2301869/-Musk-lackey-Edward-Coristine-would-likely-not-pass-security-background-checks-per-new-reporting
Sheds a different light on the breach at Treasury late in Biden administration.
And TFG has started a “faith office” for looking into the persecution of Christians. Because they’re such a tiny minority in the country – only 70-something percent – and can’t do anything openly. /s
He’s got that charlatan White running it.
And Marko Elez has gotten out of DOGE. Seems his past racism has caught up with him.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2025/2/6/2301977/-Normalize-Indian-hate-Muskovite-Marko-Elez-resigns-from-DOGE-after-racist-posts-uncovered
I would like to know if he was required to surrender his devices. [haha]
Josh Marshall calls these guys feral degenerates. [< sounds right to me]
https://bsky.app/profile/joshtpm.bsky.social/post/3lhj6gupye22g
This one was born on third base:
https://bsky.app/profile/jsweetli.bsky.social/post/3lhj3wkr3t222
February 6, 2025 at 7:35 AM
This is my surprised face :|
MU$K poll on the XITTER [see screenshot at link below]:
https://bsky.app/profile/followtheh.bsky.social/post/3lhlsgrv5s32f
February 7, 2025 at 9:23 AM
https://bsky.app/profile/juddlegum.bsky.social/post/3lhltvzpp6c2y
February 7, 2025 at 9:49 AM
From the screenshots:
Elon Musk’s Demolition Crew
https://projects.propublica.org/elon-musk-doge-tracker/
Avi Asher-Schapiro, Christopher Bing, Annie Waldman, Brett Murphy,
Andy Kroll, Justin Elliott, Kirsten Berg, Sebastian Rotella,
Alex Mierjeski, Pratheek Rebala and Al Shaw Feb. 6, 2025