Who Needs Intelligence Sharing?

On January 27th, an AP story appeared on the news website Military.com with the headline “Intelligence Sharing by the US and Its Allies Has Saved Lives. Trump Could Test Those Ties.” On the surface, it reads like one of those analysis pieces that come out when the White House changes from one party to the next, with the added twist of knowing what the first Trump administration was like.

The Associated Press spoke with 18 current and former senior European and U.S. officials who worked in NATO, defense, diplomacy or intelligence. Many raised questions and concerns about Trump’s past relationship with America’s spies and their ability to share information at a time of heightened terror threats and signs of greater cooperation between U.S. adversaries.

The importance of trust

The U.S. and its allies routinely share top-secret information, be it about potential terror threats, Chinese cyberattacks or Russian troop movements. America’s closest intelligence partners are New Zealand, Australia, Canada and Britain, and it often shares with other nations or sometimes even adversaries when lives are at stake.

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Cooperation particularly between the U.S. and the U.K. is “strong and robust enough to withstand some turbulence at the political level,” said Lord Peter Ricketts, former U.K. national security adviser and current chair of the European Affairs Committee of the upper chamber of the British Parliament.

However, any strong intelligence relationship is underpinned by trust, and what if “trust isn’t there?” Ricketts said.

Ricketts’ question is no longer a hypothetical. This is the reality faced by intelligence services who in the past have been friendly with the US intelligence community. The AP put out their story on January 27th, and that seems like years ago. Today this reads like a warning.

The takeover of USAID that has played out this past week is *not* just a battle over who runs offices in DC. The bulk of USAID’s staff work overseas, alongside their local partners. When phone calls from these overseas missions back to DC go unanswered, and when US staffers abroad are told to stand down, all those local partners are going to get very, very nervous, and not just because their paychecks stop. They’re going to talk to others in their government, trying to find out what it going on. At the same time, they will be providing input (either directly or indirectly) to their own country’s intelligence service, as their spooks add it to whatever they are learning from elsewhere. In the US, folks worry about those who are losing their jobs; overseas, these fights will result in people dying, like those who don’t get the clean water, medical care, or disease prevention measures like malaria nets. Those other countries are watching with horror the stories of Musk’s minions breaking into sensitive databases, over the objections of trusted career people, and wonder what of their own information is now in the hands of a privateer, and if the same this is (or will be) going on at the CIA, DIA, and other US intelligence agencies.

I guarantee you that all these other countries are watching the battle over USAID much more carefully than folks in the US.

Or look at the targeting of General Mark Milley, widely respected by his counterparts among our allies and within their intelligence services. OK, Biden pardoned him to protect him, but Trump withdrew his security clearance, and also his personal security detail. On January 29th, newly confirmed Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth launched a process to investigate Milley, seeking to strip him of at least one star, cut his retirement pay, and punish him further. Given what the US attorney for DC is doing by going after DOJ attorneys for investigating the rather noticeable break-in of the US Capitol on January 6, 2021, it’s not hard to imagine that Hegseth’s henchmen will be rather thorough in their work and ruthlessly push aside anyone who gets in their way.

Now imagine you are a member of a foreign intelligence service — perhaps the head, or perhaps a mid-level staffer whose specialty is the US. You see the USAID invasion. You see the public decapitation of the FBI. You see the targeting of career DOJ officials. You see Hegseth paint a target on the back of Milley (and others, like John Bolton and John Brennan). You see all this, much of it in the bright light of public reporting. You hear more from your contacts, who paint more detailed pictures of these purges and fights. You see all this, and you ask yourself two questions, over and over again.

1) Are the things we shared with the US intelligence community in the past safe from being revealed in public, and thus causing us harm?
2) Can we trust the US intelligence community with information we might share with them in the future?

Given what we’ve seen over the last week, the answers to these questions are becoming more and more clear: 1) no and 2) no.

I haven’t talked to those “18 current and former senior European and U.S. officials who worked in NATO, defense, diplomacy or intelligence” to whom the AP spoke. The AP headline was hypothetical – “Trump could test those ties” – but now on February 3rd, it’s real. Trump has been f’ing around with those intelligence service ties, and he’s about to find out what happens.

The short answer is becoming clear, as Trump’s vision of America First becomes America Alone.

 

 

26 replies
  1. P J Evans says:

    The Felon Guy is clearly a Big Loser. When you’ve lost the trust of allies, you’re losing everything.

  2. crankyOldGuy says:

    Good discussion, I agree entirely.

    Unfortunately, Trump won’t really “find out what happens”. Nothing will change on the surface. But a lot of intelligence puzzle pieces (“Not sure what it means yet, but we’ve got a guy in Indonesia who is noticing some unusual activity…”) simply won’t get shared. The potential damage is enormous.

  3. dopefish says:

    A possible bit of good news.. Politico reports:

    Federal employee unions on Monday sued to stop Elon Musk’s team from accessing a sensitive government payment system that controls the flow of trillions of dollars of payments as top Democrats stepped up their attacks on what they said was the billionaire’s “hostile takeover” of the Treasury Department.

    “The scale of the intrusion into individuals’ privacy is massive and unprecedented,” the groups said in their complaint, which was filed in federal court in the District of Columbia.

    • dopefish says:

      The more I read about DOGE’s infiltration of Treasury computer networks, the more terrifying it seems. The possible risks here are apocalyptically bad, and most media outlets do not seem to have noticed.

      https://www.csoonline.com/article/3815925/musks-doge-effort-could-spread-malware-expose-us-systems-to-threat-actors.html

      Some DOGE workers had yet to receive a GSA laptop, indicating that some connected to government systems using their own devices.

      WTAF!! That is an insane risk!

      Another primary concern Garrett raises is that Musk could not only expose government data to criminals and state-sponsored adversaries, “but we also need to consider what would be the impact of a successful ransomware infection of a government department,” he says.

      “Do we trust that this material is still being backed up in the appropriate way? Is the normal kind of technical side of things still operating as normal? We also need to consider if people with sufficiently elevated privileges read this data, how many of them have access to rights to it, and what would the outcomes of a state-level adversary deliberately modifying some of this data look like?”

      • Peterr says:

        Now bring it back to those intelligence services of our allies. If this is how sensitive information is being handled by Trump, Musk, & Co., do they really want to pass their secrets to us?

      • Rayne says:

        Let me add another layer of fear: Peter Thiel, Vance’s sponsor, invested in Lava cryptocurrency payment platform recently.

        Wanna’ bet they’re setting up the entire federal system to swap out payments in dollars to payments in Bitcoin in order to boost the value of their holdings in crypto?

      • dopefish says:

        See this fednews reddit post:

        This situation is beyond alarming. With Inspectors General (IGs) fired and Congress currently out of session, the safeguards meant to prevent this kind of overreach have been dismantled, leaving the federal payment systems vulnerable to unchecked manipulation. The fact that admin privileges to systems like PAM and SPS, which handle Social Security, tax refunds, veteran benefits, and nearly all federal payments, have been granted to a 25-year-old engineer with ties to Elon Musk is an unprecedented threat to U.S. governance and financial stability.

        • Ginevra diBenci says:

          Any word, anywhere, as to whether those Musk lackeys have security clearances? Or are they as exempt as Musk himself?

    • dopefish says:

      Oops, I replied to the wrong comment above. Posting it again under the proper thread.

      https://newrepublic.com/post/191117/elon-musk-25-year-old-aide-doge-treasury-department-code

      Wired, citing two unnamed sources, reports that Elez has the ability to write code on the Payment Automation Manager and Secure Payment System at the Bureau of the Fiscal Service, which control government payments that amount to more than a fifth of the U.S. economy. Elez’s level of access could allow him to bypass security measures and possibly cause irreversible damage to these systems. Talking Points Memo further reports that Elez has already used his power to significantly rewrite code for the payment systems.

      “You could do anything with these privileges,” one source with knowledge of the systems told Wired, adding that they couldn’t see a reason that such access was necessary for hunting down fraud or assessing how payments are disbursed, as DOGE claims it is doing.

      This is not a 5-alarm fire, this is a 10-alarm fire. These guys could easily screw something up and cause an extinction-level event for the U.S. and world economy. Even if that doesn’t happen, the U.S. might default on its debts (since they fired the senior-most staffer whose job was to make sure that didn’t happen). And even if that doesn’t happen, Musk and his cronies have the ability to copy any of the sensitive data they have access to, they could accidentally (or intentionally) leak it to foreign powers, they could change anything they want in it, they could block any Treasury payments they decide should be blocked. After what we’ve seen from this lawless regime, it borders on absurd to believe none of those things will happen. There is no oversight and no accountability, because the Trump regime acted swiftly to decapitate the organs of government (Inspectors General, the DOJ, OPM, GSA, …) that would normally perform those oversight functions.

      If these people aren’t stopped, the 250-year experiment of U.S. democracy looks like its over.

      • dopefish says:

        In case it isn’t obvious, let me elaborate a bit: To the extent that these crooks control the Treasury, Congress is effectively irrelevant.

        Even if Congress manages to pass a budget, the regime can ignore it and just spend Treasury dollars on whatever they want. They can also block any spending they don’t want, regardless of what laws or courts or Congress says. If federal workers accept their “fake buyout” offer, they can later decide not to pay them. They could interfere with payments to Medicaid or Social Security recipients. They can pay huge sums of money to their oligarch friends, and then alter or erase any audit trails that might allow anyone to figure out what happened later. They can withhold retirement benefits or tax refunds from anyone they want to retaliate against. They have all the banking details of every taxpaying individual and business in America.

        Elon Musk now completely controls the power of the purse, unless Americans realize that and refuse to accept it.

  4. RipNoLonger says:

    Isn’t that the whole purpose for installing trump and his team into the executive branch? To undermine our capabilities for intelligence and counter-intelligence? I use “undermine” but it is more an active subversion and aiding of the enemy.

    I’m not sure of musk’s direct connections to people like putin (I know they are talking buddies), but between destroying our security apparatus and musk’s hijacking of data and money flows in the US government, I can’t think of anything else they might do… Well, yes I can and none of it is better.

    Thanks to the willing politicians in congress and the lower courts. And special thanks to roberts, alito, thomas, leo, et. al. who made sure that the most inept and dangerous person in the world could be put in charge of the executive functions of the US government, and be absolved of all responsibility. The blame rests on your shoulders and your souls – forever.

  5. dopefish says:

    Regarding USAID, the New York Intelligencer has a good article describing the likely-permanent damage that DOGE has already done.

    With an annual budget of about $40 billion, USAID’s global role is so outsize that staffers feared the pause on U.S. assistance might collapse the international-aid sector worldwide, especially in places like Yemen and Sudan. At the end of last week, according to ProPublica, the administration furloughed 500 contractors, running disaster relief for millions, from the humanitarian assistance bureau, and fired 400 more from its global health bureau. “We have beneficiaries whose 2,000 calories or 1,800 calories a day come from U.S. funding, and that was cut off,” says one recently fired contractor. “People are definitely going to die even if we turned everything back on today, which isn’t going to happen.”

    • timbozone says:

      Sadly, I know of people on the left who have applauded just this. Now we must “enjoy” a parade of dragon riders it seems…and the part about whether one likes it or not is perhaps moot.

  6. hollywood says:

    I paid the tariff
    But I didn’t pay no duty free
    I paid the tariff
    But I didn’t pay no duty free oh oh oh

  7. observiter says:

    All that money given to those disgusting people around the world, and here. I’m taking that money back. That money belongs to me to do whatever I want since I’m at the top of the pile where I belong. It’s MY money. You need to bow deep to me, your god, your narcissist, if you want any of it. (Maybe) I’ll let you share. (Maybe) If it’s not nap time.

  8. Zinsky123 says:

    Trust is like a good reputation – it takes years to build it up but it only takes one bad decision to send it all crumbling down. Trump makes dozens of bad decisions every day. Great post, Peterr, and thanks for the helpful links!

    • timbozone says:

      I think it was more about being tolerated. Clearly Trump didn’t feel he was being respected enough the first go-round. Now he seems to not care so much. So what toleration there was left for US crazy notions and specious initiatives on the international stage is now looked upon with even more skepticism…suspicions can only increase as US foreign aid dries up around the world. Also, Chinese aid will seem more and more attractive to poor countries who haven’t already fallen into China’s sphere.

    • Peterr says:

      We’re past “may”, and are at “has become”.

      As I said in the post, the folks in the field — both US staff and the local USAID project workers in the various countries – are already at that point. The question is not whether it becomes a motivating mantra, but what it motivates them to do.

      In the case of the local USAID project workers, there are very few likely answers to that question that are good, as far as US foreign policy is concerned.

  9. RealAlexi says:

    Our allies are afraid and our enemies are laughing.

    Intel that revolves around terror will remain because we all have aligned goals vis a vis Jihad, broken arrows etc. Intel with regards to international criminality (which will include arms sales etc) will change the most.

    Intel sharing (5 eyes) will remain but be limited out of fears for their own national security. Coordination with the FBI who run all domestic countertenor ops is gonna be interesting.

    This is about indebtedness which our allies will feel is nonexistent, respect; which we are hemorrhaging nationally, and unique relationships which are now strained and new ones will be suspect (lookin’ at you Tulsi). I imagine we yanked a whole bunch of people back home between Nov 5th and Jan 20th.

    Last time around we had guardrails and we still had to do that. We had people I don’t even like (Pompeo, Bolton etc) who were at least SANE and dedicated to the nation not the cult and dear leader, Hair Furor.

    It’s not just the crazies. It’s the knowledge that the crazies are going scorched earth on the sane.

    Everybody agency knows this admin is willing to burn foreign agents and assets as vengeance for anything countering the “Trump agenda”.

  10. Steve Vokers says:

    I’m sure all of the countries who would normally share intelligence with us are also remembering the pictures of boxes stacked on a stage in a ballroom and dumped on a bathroom floor at Mar-a-Lago.

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