Artificial Frameworks about Elon: On Adrian Dittmann and Tommy Robinson

I was alarmed by the response yesterday to Elon Musk’s full-throated propaganda campaign for Tommy Robinson.

In a formula not far off QAnon, Elon has used a child sexual abuse scandal magnified by the Tories to suggest that Robinson has been unfairly jailed for contempt.

He posted and reposted multiple calls for Robinson, whose real name is Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, to be released from prison.

The activist was jailed for 18 months in October after pleading guilty to showing a defamatory video of a Syrian refugee during a protest last year.

Judges previously heard that he fled the UK hours after being bailed last summer, following an alleged breach of the terms of a 2021 court order.

The order was imposed when he was successfully sued by refugee Jamal Hijazi for making false claims about him, preventing Robinson from repeating any of the allegations.

Pictures later showed him on a sun lounger at a holiday resort in Cyprus while violent riots erupted across the UK in the wake of the attack in Southport.

Posts promoted by Musk suggested Robinson was ‘smeared as a “far-right racist” for exposing the mass betrayal of English girls by the state’, an apparent reference to the grooming gang scandal.

This is fairly transparent effort at projection: to do damage to Labour even while delegitimizing the earned jailing of Robinson, a tactic right wing extremists always use (still are using with January 6) to turn the foot soldiers of political violence into heroes and martyrs. The intent, here, is to cause problems for Labour, sure, but more importantly to undermine rule of law and put Robinson above it.

I’m not alarmed that experts in radicalization are finding Musk’s efforts to turn Robinson into a martyr serving sexually abused children repulsive. Nor am I alarmed that experts in radicalization — and, really, anyone who supports democracy or has a smattering of history — are repulsed by Elon’s endorsement of Germany’s neo-Nazi AfD party.

I’m alarmed by the nature of the alarm, which the Tommy Robinson full circle demonstrates.

Endorsements are the least of our worries, in my opinion.

To put it simply. Elon Musk’s endorsement of Donald Trump was, by itself, not all that valuable. Endorsements, themselves, don’t often sway voters.

Elon’s endorsement of Robinson is just the beginning of the damage he can do … and, importantly, has already done. Endorsement is the least of our worries.

It makes a difference if, as he has promised to do for Nigel Farage and as he did do for Trump, Elon drops some pocket cash — say, a quarter of a billion dollars — to get a far right candidate elected.

But where Elon was likely most valuable in the November election was in deploying both his own proprietary social media disinformation and that of others to depress Harris voters and mobilize the low turnout voters who consume no news who made the difference for Trump. We know, for example, that Musk was a big funder of a front group that sought to exacerbate negativity around Gaza (though I’ve seen no one assess the import of it to depress Democratic turnout anywhere but Michigan’s heavily Arab cities). I’ve seen no one revisit the observations that Elon shifted the entire algorithm of Xitter on the day he endorsed Trump to boost his own and other Republican content supporting Trump. (Of course, Elon deliberately made such analysis prohibitively expensive to do.) We’ve spent two months fighting about what Dems could do better but, as far as I’m aware, have never assessed the import of Elon’s technical contribution.

It’s the $44 billion donation, as much as the $250 million one.

In other words, Elon’s value to AfD may lie more in the viral and microtargeted promotion he can offer than simply his famous name normalizing Nazism or even cash dollars.

But back to Tommy Robinson, and the real reason for my alarm by the newfound concern, in the US, about Elon’s bromance with the far right provocateur.

It shouldn’t be newfound, and Elon has already done more than vocally endorse Robinson.

Tommy Robinson is a kind of gateway drug for US transnational support for British and Irish extremism, with Alex Jones solidly in the mix. This piece, from shortly after the UK riots, describes how Robinson’s reach exploded on Xitter after Elon reinstated him.

Robinson, who has been accused of stoking the anti-immigration riots, owes his huge platform to Musk. The billionaire owner of X rescued Robinson from the digital wilderness by restoring his account last November. In the past few days Musk has:

  • responded to a post by Robinson criticising Keir Starmer’s response to the widespread disorder – amplifying it to Musk’s 193 million followers;
  • questioned Robinson’s recent arrest under anti-terror laws, asking what he did that was “considered terrorism”; and
  • allowed Robinson’s banned documentary, which repeats false claims about a Syrian refugee against a UK high court order, to rack up over 33 million views on X.

It was the screening of this documentary at a demonstration in London last month that prompted Robinson’s arrest under counter-terrorism powers. Robinson left the UK the day before he was due in court, and is currently believed to be staying at a five-star hotel in Ayia Napa. He is due in court for a full contempt hearing in October.

None of this has stopped Robinson incessantly tweeting about the riots, where far-right groups have regularly chanted his name. He has:

  • falsely claimed that people were stabbed by Muslims in Stoke-on-Trent and Stirling;
  • called for mass deportations, shared demonstration posters, and described violent protests in Southport as “justified”; and
  • shared a video that speculated that the suspect in the Southport stabbings was Muslim, a widespread piece of disinformation that helped trigger the riots across the country.

Making the weather. The far-right activist has nearly 900,000 followers on X, but reaches a much larger number of people. Tortoise calculated that Robinson’s 268 posts over the weekend had been seen over 160 million times by late Monday afternoon.

Elon gives Tommy Robinson a vast platform and Robinson uses it to stoke racist hatred. Robinson was the key pivot point in July, and was a key pivot point in Irish anti-migrant mobilization. All this happened, already, in July. All this already translated into right wing violence. All this, already, created a crisis for Labour.

Elon Musk is all at once a vector for attention, enormous financial resources, disinformation, and (the UK argues about Xitter), incitement.

I worry that we’re not understanding the multiple vectors of risk Elon poses.

Which brings me to Adrian Dittmann, on its face an Elon fanboy who often speaks of Musk — and did, during the brief spat between Laura Loomer and the oligarch — in the First Person. Conspiracy theorist Loomer suggested that Dittmann is no more than an avatar for Musk, a burner account Musk uses like his another named after his son to boost his own ego.

Meanwhile, the account that supposedly convinced Loomer to concede the fight has some otherwise inexplicable ties to the Tesla CEO. Dittmann also purports to be a South African billionaire with identical beliefs to Musk. The account frequently responds to Musk’s posts, supporting his decisions related to his forthcoming government positions and the way in which the tech leader is raising his children. But the account also, at times, goes so far as to speak on behalf of Musk, organizing events with Musk’s friends while continuing to claim that the two aren’t affiliated.

X users felt that the illusion was completely shattered over the weekend, when Dittman participated in an X space using his actual voice—and, suspiciously, had the exact same cadence, accent, and vocal intonations as Musk himself.

Conspiracy theorist Charles Johnson, in his inimitable self promotion, claims to have proven the case (you’ll have to click thru for the link because I refuse to link him directly).

Right wing influencer and notorious troll Charles Johnson also claims to have uncovered “proof” that Dittmann is Musk.

He writes in his Substack article: “I recently attended a Twitter Space where I exposed Elon Musk’s alt account and Elon Musk as a fraud to his face. Take a listen. It was pretty great. Part of the reason I was as aggressive as I was with Adrian/Elon was to get him agitated so he would speak faster than his voice modulator could work and we could make a positive match using software some friends of mine use for this sort of thing. I can confirm it’s Elon. Even if it isn’t physically Elon in the flesh, it’s an account controlled and operated by Elon/X that represents him in every way shape and form. But of course, it’s actually Elon.”

I’ll let the conspiracy theorists argue about whether Dittmann is Musk.

I’m more interested in an underlying premise about Elon we seem to adopt.

After Elon Musk bought Xitter, he retconned his purpose, in part, as an AI product. After the election, Xitter officially updated its Terms of Service to include consent for AI training on your content.

You agree that this license includes the right for us to (i) analyze text and other information you provide and to otherwise provide, promote, and improve the Services, including, for example, for use with and training of our machine learning and artificial intelligence models, whether generative or another type;

Xitter is unabashedly an AI project. Musk’s views on AI are closely aligned with his far right ideology and his plans to destroy government.

With other tech oligarchs, we can make certain assumptions about their investment in AI: The necessity to always lead technology, a goal of eliminating human workers, cash. Particularly given Elon’s subordination of the profit motive to his ideological whims with his Xitter purchase, that $44 billion donation he made to Trump, I don’t know that we can make such assumptions about Elon.

So why do we assume that everything Xitter’s owner posts, who tweets prolifically even while babysitting the incoming US President, boosting fascists around the world, and occasionally sending a rocket to space, is his own primary work? Most of Elon’s tweets are so facile they could easily be replaced by a bot. How hard would it be to include a “Concerning” tweet that responds to certain kinds of far right virality? Indeed, what is Elon really doing with his posting except to hone his machine for fascism?

I’m not primarily concerned about whether Adrian Dittmann is a burner account for Elon Musk. Rather, I think that simplifies the question. Why would the next Elon burner account be his human person hiding behind a burner account, and not an AI avatar trained on his own likeness?

Beware South African oligarchs pitching fascists and technological fixes. Because you may often overlook the technological underbelly.

Update: I should have noted Meta’s announcement that they plan to create imaginary friends to try to keep users on their social media platforms entertained.

“We expect these AIs to actually, over time, exist on our platforms, kind of in the same way that accounts do,” Meta vice-president of product for generative AI Connor Hayes told the Financial Times Thursday.

“They’ll have bios and profile pictures and be able to generate and share content powered by AI on the platform… that’s where we see all of this going,” he added.

Hayes said AI investment will be a “priority” for Meta over the next two years to help make its platforms “more entertaining and engaging” for users.

Update: Nicole Perloth links the analysis who did what Charles Johnson claimed to do: match the voices of Elon and Dittmann. They believe it’s highly likely to be a match.

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    • Cicero101 says:

      The anarchy thus released will justify the crackdown and repression by “President Musk” and his cronies thereby ending what remains of democracy.

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  1. bawiggans says:

    Elon Musk is living in the space fiction writers through the ages have created for their cautionary tales of characters freed from the constraints ordinary humans must bear, usually by great wealth and/or positions of power. Elon Musk is an instance of a flesh-and-blood human relieved of so many of those constraints by his money that he recognizes no limits to the exercise of his will. He is the real deal but, after all, just a man, and one proven to have been utterly corrupted by the surfeit of wealth and power he has attained. He is the hero of his own comic-book reality, and he is making his bid to put everyone in a frame of it. The Richest Man in the World is doing what any Gotham City villain would do.

    As this post points out, we need to pay attention to all the ways he is going about achieving world domination, but I imagine it will be other oligarchs who don’t fancy him taking up permanent residence atop the greasy pole who will eventually pull him down, with maybe a little help from his (jealous) friend. In the meantime, damage control.

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    • Ginevra diBenci says:

      Yes, it seems clear Musk wants us to see him as Tony Stark, when his lack of that character’s charisma and inventive intelligence seems to drive him to mania.

      The problem with this self-conception is that Musk inhabits a physical, recognizably human body, and he’s reaching the age where that’s both increasingly visible to the rest of us and (I assume) palpable to him. Musk must feel time’s winged chariot…if not hot on his heels, then turning down his lane. And no Cybertruck is gonna allow him to escape him. Not even one of those self-aborting rockets.

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    • DrFunguy says:

      This.
      The worlds richest man has significant influence on its most powerful military, significant communication resources that multiple, competing, militaries (as well as many everyday humans) rely upon and significant influence (if such be possible) on the president-elect of the US.
      Not a good situation. I appreciate the laser-light EW shines on the situation but its hard to know how to more than try and prepare for the coming bad times.

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    • Savage Librarian says:

      Something we know about both Trump and Musk is that they had challenging childhoods. Musk’s father is about the same age as Trump, fwiw. I wonder if Adrian Dittman and John Barron have ever recognized any similarities between themselves and their fathers.

      According to the Rolling Stone article cited in the Wikipedia article below, Elon Musk said that “our personalities might be 80 percent nature and 20 percent nurture.” He also said, “I was raised by books. Books, and then my parents.”

      From the Errol Musk tab of the wiki:

      “In 2014, [Errol] Musk gave an interview about his son Elon. In 2017, Musk was interviewed by Neil Strauss of Rolling Stone for a profile of Elon titled “The Architect of Tomorrow”. Errol recalled that he had once shot and killed in self-defense “three out of five or six armed people” who had broken into his home. Elon described his father Errol as a “terrible human being”, adding: “Almost every evil thing you could possibly think of, he has done.”

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musk_family

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      • Matt___B says:

        Despite Mandela and the official political renunciation of apartheid, S. Africa has always been a highly-polarized and high-crime society. I had a South African musician friend who lived in a middle-class neighborhood in Johannesburg a few years ago who experienced a violent home break-in where he was tied up, beat over the head and robbed. After the robber left with all his music gear, it was left to him to get out of his bonds and get to a hospital on his own. The class division and polarization in S. Africa is still pretty severe. My friend owned no weapons.

        So, it’s not surprising to hear that the Musk family was armed to the teeth inside their own home.

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        • emptywheel says:

          Yup. I did a business trip in I dunno, 2006? with another female colleague. They wouldn’t let us travel alone and sent us off to the gated safari Las Vegas resort for the weekend rather than to Jo-Berg for music like we would have liked.

      • Lostinmesa says:

        In the article where Elon discusses the ‘emerald mine’, everyone seems to ignore that he discusses ‘running contraband’ with his father and AK47’s. The $ wasn’t from the ‘Emerald Mine’ imo, it was from illegal arms deals.

        >” JC: How do you handle fear?

        EM: Company death – not succeeding with the company – causes me a lot more stress than physical danger. But I’ve been in physical danger before. The funny thing is I’ve not actually been that nervous. In South Africa, my father had a private plane we’d fly in incredibly dangerous weather and barely make it back. This is going to sound slightly crazy, but my father also had a share in an Emerald mine in Zambia. I was 15 and really wanted to go with him but didn’t realize how dangerous it was. I couldn’t find my passport so I ended up grabbing my brother’s – which turned out to be six months overdue! So we had this planeload of contraband and an overdue passport from another person. There were AK-47s all over the place and I’m thinking, “Man, this could really go bad.””

        https://web.archive.org/web/20210410140339/https://www.askmen.com/entertainment/right-stuff/elon-musk-interview-3.html

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  2. SteveBev says:

    It is interesting that part of Musk’s attack on the British Authorities treatment of Tommy Robinson is that he is being held in solitary confinement.

    This Guardian Report from October on the jailing of Robinson puts that claim in a different light. https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/oct/28/tommy-robinson-admits-contempt-of-court-over-false-claims-about-refugee

    “Rupert Lowe, a Reform UK MP, tweeted that he hoped Robinson would be given protection to ensure his safety in prison, adding that he would be raising concerns with the Ministry of Justice on behalf of constituents.”

    Robinson has no shortage of enemies. Most obviously from communities he attacks. But less frequently mentioned, but as real, if not more so, from the fissiparous hard right, amongst some of whom Robinson is regarded as a snitch and worse, for several sets of reasons, including his cooperation with the Quilliam Foundation in 2013 and his then profession to have turned his back on extremism. https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/12/03/tommy-robinson-claims-quilliam-paid-him-to-leave-edl_n_8710834.html

    As for Musk’s stupid claims about arrest under anti-terror laws, needless to say the implication he wishes to be drawn from this is just a complete canard.

    Certain powers of arrest having broader application than in relation to crimes of terrorism or suspected terrorists are derived from or modified by legislation having terrorism in the title.

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  3. gmokegmoke says:

    Peter Thiel worries me more than Elon Musk. Musk gets all the attention while Thiel works consistently and quietly in the background. Musk may now own Trmp but Thiel not only owns but groomed Vance over years for his own purposes.

    And Thiel’s back story is even more comic book villain than Musk’s. Emerald mine in South Africa compared to uranium mine in Namibia and both fathers who are actively disliked by their sons.

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  4. wetzel-rhymes-with says:

    Commenting on Twitter or Reddit can become addictive through variable ratio reinforcement schedule. Every now and then you make a comment and get rewarded with “likes” or “karma” or whatever. These are “token reinforcers” signifying social acceptance, so people get addicted to commenting like they get addicted to pulling the arm of a slot machine. In psychology, it’s been demonstrated that behaviors trained through a variable ratio reinforcement schedule are difficult to extinguish.

    This is operant conditioning in behaviorism. B.F. Skinner. Reinforcers increase the frequency of a behavior. Punishers decrease it. This is interesting from the perspective of fascist instrumentality for propaganda because a comment actually has a substance, meaning it represents a thinking behavior. The owner of Twitter has the ability to control the rewarding and punishing of thought behaviors on his platform if the AI is designed to reward and punish in the manner of operant conditioning with rewards such as “likes” and “virality” and punishers like disapproval and social isolation.

    There are cognitive modes of attitude manipulation possible too, I suppose, through such things as foot-in-the-door or cognitive dissonance to shift attitudes, especially if the AI takes a functional approach to attitudes. If they were truly neo-Orwellian, Twitter could develop delusional qualities for identified users based on synchronicities and coincidences QAnon style that Twitter’s AI could use to activate manias in certain personality types.

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  5. harpie says:

    Marcy, here:

    […] This is fairly transparent effort at projection: to do damage to Labour even while delegitimizing the earned jailing of Robinson, a tactic right wing extremists always use (still are using with January 6) to turn the foot soldiers of political violence into heroes and martyrs. The intent, here, is to cause problems for Labour, sure, but more importantly to undermine rule of law and put Robinson above it. […]

    Marcy today:
    https://bsky.app/profile/emptywheel.bsky.social/post/3lewdcws6o22o
    January 4, 2025 at 9:36 AM [See screenshot here]:

    One of the most important tasks ahead is to make Trump own the pardons he’s about to give. […]

    But so much of the understanding of Jan6–the very urge to claim you needed a Special Prosecutor to do the investigation that was happening everywhere you turn–internalized a very (false) white collar belief that Trump is somehow distanced from the cop assault and sedition that will be pardoned.

    ALSO today:
    The Militia and the Mole https://www.propublica.org/article/ap3-oath-keepers-militia-mole Joshua Kaplan Jan. 4, 5 a.m. EST
    Reporting Highlights

    A Freelance Vigilante: A wilderness survival trainer spent years undercover, climbing the ranks of right-wing militias. He didn’t tell police or the FBI. He didn’t tell his family or friends.

    The Future of Militias: He penetrated a new generation of militia leaders, which included doctors and government attorneys. Experts say that militias could have a renaissance under Donald Trump.

    A Secret Trove: He sent ProPublica a massive trove of documents. The conversations that he secretly recorded give a unique, startling window into the militia movement. […]

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  6. harpie says:

    [This comment is the ending of one that’s in moderation…
    posting now because I’m having trouble keeping everything straight.]

    Here’s the Blsky THREAD from the ProPublica author:

    https://bsky.app/profile/josh-kaplan.bsky.social/post/3lew5cqz6os2t
    January 4, 2025 at 7:48 AM

    THREAD: In 2023, I received an envelope with no return address. Inside was a flash drive containing tens of 1000s of secret files.

    It came from a vigilante with a tumultuous past, who’d conducted a years-long undercover operation. He didn’t tell the FBI or his family. He only told me.
    [LINK to The Militia and the MoleJoshua Kaplan Jan. 4, 5 a.m. EST] […]

    Back in August, I wrote an investigation based on records the mole sent me, along with extensive interviews with militia members and files I got from several other sources. [LINK to Armed and Underground: Inside the Turbulent, Secret World of an American Militia Joshua Kaplan Aug. 17, 2024]

    But that was still the tip of the iceberg. Now the mole is coming forward.
    The infiltrator’s name is John Williams. […]

    The Oath Keepers leader did not respond to requests for comment.
    The founder of a major Three Percenter militia that John infiltrated declined to comment, then sent a short follow-up email: “MAGA.”

    [That’s how my brain is connecting this story with Marcy’s THREAD about pardons,
    and this post about Musk/Robinson]

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