Zeynep Tufekci’s Two Blind Spots Cross at DOGE
Zeynep Tufekci has a column at NYT scolding thousands of people on social media for taking glee in the murder of United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson.
I don’t care one way or another for the scold. I care about how she makes a remarkable claim and then uses it to engage in political nihilism.
Tufekci claims that she can’t remember any murder being so openly celebrated in the US.
I’ve been studying social media for a long time, and I can’t think of any other incident when a murder in this country has been so openly celebrated.
From there, Tufekci likens this moment to the Gilded Age, where social upheaval led to exploitation and political violence.
The Gilded Age, the tumultuous period between roughly 1870 and 1900, was also a time of rapid technological change, of mass immigration, of spectacular wealth and enormous inequality. The era got its name from a Mark Twain novel: gilded, rather than golden, to signify a thin, shiny surface layer. Below it lay the corruption and greed that engulfed the country after the Civil War.
The era survives in the public imagination through still-resonant names, including J.P. Morgan, John Rockefeller, Andrew Carnegie and Cornelius Vanderbilt; through their mansions, which now greet awe-struck tourists; and through TV shows with extravagant interiors and lavish gowns. Less well remembered is the brutality that underlay that wealth — the tens of thousands of workers, by some calculations, who lost their lives to industrial accidents, or the bloody repercussions they met when they tried to organize for better working conditions.
Also less well remembered is the intensity of political violence that erupted. The vast inequities of the era fueled political movements that targeted corporate titans, politicians, judges and others for violence.
But she suggests that rather than the reform that arose out of the Gilded Age, this moment will stumble because “the will among politicians to push for broad public solutions appears to have all but vanished.”
The turbulence and violence of the Gilded Age eventually gave way to comprehensive social reform. The nation built a social safety net, expanded public education and erected regulations and infrastructure that greatly improved the health and well-being of all Americans.
Those reforms weren’t perfect, and they weren’t the only reason the violence eventually receded (though never entirely disappeared), but they moved us forward.
The concentration of extreme wealth in the United States has recently surpassed that of the Gilded Age. And the will among politicians to push for broad public solutions appears to have all but vanished. I fear that instead of an era of reform, the response to this act of violence and to the widespread rage it has ushered into view will be limited to another round of retreat by the wealthiest.
So, unprecedented glee at a murder. And Tufekci’s judgment that there’s simply not the political will there was in the early 20th Century.
As a threshold matter, I find her claim that this is a unique moment of glee to be … forgetful. Just two years ago, after all, Donald Trump and Elon Musk — whose platform has encouraged such mob celebrations — both led their mob in vicious jokes about Paul Pelosi’s near-murder.
Indeed, Trump used attacks on Paul Pelosi at least twice in his campaign — most recently, campaigning with some cops in September.
How do you forget that the richest man in the world and the President-elect have engaged in just such celebration of political violence (and that’s before he pardons seditionists)? Donald Trump got elected by celebrating political violence.
And then he proceeded to install at least 11 billionaires, ready to start looting government.
Which is where Tufekci’s failure to find any will to push for systematic solutions gets curious. After all, Lina Khan’s efforts to rein in monopolies played a role in last year’s election. WaPo’s coverage of all the billionaires Trump installed quotes Josh Hawley along with Elizabeth Warren and Noah Bookbinder.
Trump’s team of rivals stands in stark contrast with President Joe Biden’s Cabinet, which had a combined net worth of $118 million in the first year of his presidency, according to Forbes. Trump’s picks have not yet released their financial disclosures, but his 2025 Cabinet is likely to be even richer than the first Trump Cabinet, which had a combined net worth of $6.2 billion.
[snip]
Trump’s selections may be more inclined to look out for the interests of their own businesses and their fellow billionaires than for working-class voters, said Noah Bookbinder, president of Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington.
“It is hard to see how a Cabinet made up largely of the very, very wealthiest of Americans is going to have an understanding of what the needs of regular Americans are,” he said.
[snip]
Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Missouri) expressed concern about the business backgrounds of some of Trump’s picks in an interview with Politico on Tuesday.
“All these Treasury secretaries, my point is, always end up being sort of Wall Street guys. Do I think that’s a great trend? Not really,” Hawley said.
[snip]
Democrats have roundly criticized Trump’s choices. The Democratic Party on Tuesday put out a news release that said Trump was “stacking his Cabinet with out of touch billionaires.” Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Massachusetts) told The Washington Post that the choices suggest Trump’s presidency will “be one giveaway after another for the wealthy and well-connected.”
“He’s nominating his ‘rich-as-hell’ buddies to run every facet of our economy, corrupting our government at the expense of ordinary Americans,” she said.
(NYT’s version of the same story credulously repeats the Tech Bros’ transparently bullshit claim that “A core goal of Mr. Musk and the Silicon Valley set has been to improve the efficiency of government services.”)
And even beyond Khan’s work, the Biden Administration took efforts to reverse the kind of concentration that made Jeff Bezos and Mark Zuckerberg rich. They’ve even taken action against … United Healthcare.
The richest man in the world is about to come for VA Health Care and once that fails to make way for new tax cuts, Medicare.
No one knows where this moment of rage will go. The oligarchs have the means to exercise the power of the state against those complaining that Trump’s billionaires plan to use bullshit claims about efficiency to make things far worse.
But the people who brought us to this moment where mobs take glee at political violence are about to loot the government.
And I’m pretty sure Senator Warren will be ready at hand to explain what is going down.
In addition to Paul Pelosi, recall the endless episodes of glee amongst the reactionaries to the killing of various and sundry black and brown people by police (George Floyd and on and on and on)…
or remember the very fine folks egging on murderer Kyle Rittenhouse…
I agree Rittenhouse is the best comparison, with the J6 mob a close second.
The difference is that Rittenhouse, while a total reckless and stupid asshole, did not murder anyone, not even close. Watch the video – in Wisconsin if someone tries to take/steal a deadly weapon out of one’s hands it is reasonable to shoot them in self-defense.
You apparently missed the part where he took a firearm across a state line with the intention of shooting someone.
It predates the internet but there was some celebration of the shooting of George Lincoln Rockwell.
This reminds me more of the assassination of former Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe. When it became public that he was targeted because he and his Party had been taking tons of money from the Moonie cult and has allowed them to prey on the Japanese people — including the mother of the assassin, he became a folk hero. The government was forced to
How Shinzo Abe’s murder and his ties to Moonies blindsided Japanese politics and forced them to face what they had been allowing the Mooniesto get away with.
“Unification church’s links to ruling Liberal Democrat politicians have led to controversy over donations and mistrust of party”
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jan/10/how-shinzo-abe-ties-to-moonies-unification-church-blindsided-japanese-politics
Given that United Healthcare has been using AI for the past few years to deny claims, causing the number of denials to shoot up well above other health insurers we need to keep the focus on that or the media will return to business s usual — moral outrage when the plutocrats are attacked but looking the other way —or blaming Democrats — when ordinary Americans they pretend to care about get screwed by health insurance companies.
Efficiency: a euphemism for cutting vital services in order to fund tax cuts for billionaires.
I don’t suppose they considered making all the antivax MAGAs repay their PPP handouts?
To quote a very popular British eighties sitcom*:
‘Almost all government policy is wrong … but frightfully well carried out.’
Trump and his ilk don’t care about the well carried out part. Or the policy. They just want the money to go their way.
*https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0751826/quotes/?item=qt4494806
My laptop is happy I wasn’t sipping coffee when I read that. Efficiency has SFA to do with anything Elmo has ever done. Simply put, efficiency is doing something well, achieving a desired end with the fewest resources. Effectiveness is choosing the right end, and achieving it efficiently,
Neither Elmo nor Trump want govt to run more effectively. They want to shut it down, to make it impossible to use against him or against his and his patrons resource extraction and profit-taking. They want to use it to get back at his and his patrons enemies.
“How do you forget that the richest man in the world and the President-elect have engaged in just such celebration of political violence (and that’s before he pardons seditionists)? Donald Trump got elected by celebrating political violence.”
IMO, she can’t mention this. She can’t draw that line and still get published at, last time I checked, $1 a word or $1,484 plus a NYTs byline. A rate most contributors wouldn’t jeopardize.
You might draw a clearer distinction between explaining and excusing her bias. The explanation is not an excuse; it makes the behavior more disturbing.
The NYTs cuts the checks. It’s their platform, not the contributor’s. The bias could be the result of editing. Or self-censorship. Regardless, her name is on the finished product.
I can’t see the NYTs publishing an OP/ED that draws a line between the two points that Ms. Wheeler covers in her post. Doing so would be incendiary. At the very least, they couldn’t turn on the comments option (which they did in this case, but that’s another “engagement” metric discussion).
I can’t explain her failure to connect factual dots. The proof is in the pudding, though: the article was published without a line drawn and she signed it. I suspect that if she wanted a line drawn and the editors wouldn’t budge, we wouldn’t even be aware of this piece because it wouldn’t have been published in the first place.
Your last sentence doesn’t fit. If your speculation is true, she had a choice between publishing a flawed piece she did not agree with and publishing what amounts to her editors’ work, not hers. She appears to have made the wrong choice. It’s also inconsistent with the NYT often excusing the work of its columnists by saying it does not edit them.
Re editing, I’m not thinking line editing, but rather accept/reject the entire piece editing. The NYTs can say they don’t edit columnists. But, they can’t say they don’t reject. They must reserve that right.
I wasn’t thinking of line editing either.
edit torts: line b*stards, every one of ’em.
Hold the line—New York Times editor ain’t fine…
No, no, no…
It shouldn’t surprise me that an Ivy League sociologist, like Princeton’s Tufekci, should bothsides her argument, or be more adept at pleasing her editors at the NYT than in applying her vast knowledge of sociology.
The reaction to the assassination of UHC’s CEO isn’t happiness about his death. Its CEO deserves the same thoughts and prayers Congress reserves for dead schoolchildren. After all, he led the biggest insurer with the highest denial-of-claims rate in the industry, double the industry average. His compensation for that was in the hundreds of millions, but still half that of his predecessor. In parts of Europe, that denial rate might have earned them both prison sentences.
Nor is the public luxuriating in the notorious, message-laden manner of his murder. Using a semiautomatic instead of a revolver; not picking up one’s brass; etching it with defend, deny, depose; effortlessly executing the hit and walking/cycling away into a busy early-morning Central Park; stymieing local police for days; possibly using a type of WWII assassin’s pistol or the weapon a veterinary uses to put down injured or diseased animals.
The public are certainly not “enjoying” this the way MAGA enjoyed Paul Pelosi’s near death, or the large number of dangerous swatting episodes MAGA perpetrates and continues to perpetrate against private citizens and public officials.
Fully agree with your analysis that the public hasn’t been “enjoying” this. Most of what I’ve seen can be characterized as showing a sort of grim irony. Hardly “enjoying” or in any way gleeful. I suspect that responses that merely state factual denial of service stories are being misdefined.
Maybe if the media had given even half the attention they gave to “Biden’s” inflation to the stories of people whose lives have been wrecked or lost because of United Healthcare denying the coverage the CEO would not have been murdered. But it is undeniable that it took something so drastic to get the media to give at least a little attention to that outrage. From what I have read since 2019 UHC has been using AI to evaluate claims which has spiked denials —and increased profits. Seems like a story worth telling.
Also worth noting is that Thompson was primarily responsible for UHC implementing changes that increased its denial rate dramatically. And essentially bragged about it to shareholders. Not that this justified his murder, but it certainly justifies outrage at UHC’s practices.
One question I have seen raised is are there any legal means existing to bring CEOs like Thompson to justice for their murderous (yes) policies.
Seems like insureds could make an argument they are not insured at all if they have been told their health care would be covered but claims are denied at a rate of 90%.
It’s like an expensive lottery, not health care coverage.
That would be a civil suit at best I guess. Maybe could be expanded to a class action one. I would bet that UHC would fight it tooth and nail and drag it out for years. But even if the class won, there is little consequence to the execs who walk away laughing to the bank with their millions. Kinda like Rick Scott.
I dunno. Seems like a fraud to me to be told “you are covered” when the data says you’re not AND the CEO takes public pride in declaring denials are at the heart of their profitability.
Knowing Zeynep Tufekci a little from long ago, I suspect she would be willing to have a good conversation about this with Dr Wheeler whose point about the glee around the assault on Paul Pelosi is a sharp one. These two fierce people should know each other.
PS: Tufekci is originally from Turkëyi, had a difficult upbringing, if I read what she’s written correctly, and has put herself at risk covering, participating in, and studying large-scale demonstrations in her home country and other places. She may be working in the Ivy League now but she’s never been an ivory tower intellectual.
Not working in an Ivory Tower does not mean having no bias. She’s clearly not arguing from the middle here. Nor does doing that make one’s time as a NYT columnist more comfortable.
Everybody has a bias. Also known as a point of view. And there are always blind spots in that vision, even for the clearest observers.
In “Nor does doing that make one’s time as a NYT columnist more comfortable” I’m not sure what “that” you mean. Not arguing from the middle (whatever that is)?
Coming after veteran compensation just might ignite a geezer revolt on Washington unlike anything ever seen in history. Picture maimed vets in wheelchairs and using walkers “marching” to the capitol to eviserate the once solid Republican voting bloc. As a 100% disabled combat Marine, I’ll be there!
One physician’s perspective regarding cutting veterans’ healthcare via the linked Rattner thread…
Andrea DeSantis DO, FAAFP
@adesantisb
Dec 6
Replying to @SteveRattner @Morning_Joe
Would support ONLY if they replace all of the above with a national universal publicly funded health financing model that covers everyone, allows free and unobstructed delivery of care, keep the VA infrastructure to stay in place, remove corporate profiteering, and for profit insurance. #SinglePayer saves money admin hassles and lives.
Dec 6, 2024 · 3:42 PM UTC
And I and my colleagues who proudly work at the VA “to care for him who shall have borne the battle, and for his widow, and his orphan” (apologies to my female veteran patients) will be right behind you. As the gun fetishists say, “come and take it.”
What bothers me: there was insufficient outcry when it was reported that a trio of members at Mar-a-Lago tried to influence VA policies during Trump’s first term at Trump’s request.
Also insufficient outrage when VA used veterans as COVID guinea pigs. Pretty sure I mentioned it in a post back in 2020/2021; there were a higher than average number of deaths among vets in a facility where some unapproved drug was being used (ivermectin?).
Vote Vets did a hell of a lot of work pushing back but many more veterans are going to have to see the light, organize and get active to shut down what’s coming. Trump learned in his first term he can get away with a lot and vets will still vote for him. I hope vets don’t need their faces eaten first before they catch a clue.
I completely agree, but not for lack of trying. One problem is that those of us objecting then (to the Mar-a-Lago clown trio, the looting of VA funding encouraged by the 2018 Mission Act, etc.) were ignored (direct responses to Wilkie’s and others’ propaganda emails, emails to various CVA phonies’ BS, etc.). Another is that the majority of the local work forces and patients proudly spew the propaganda and have supported these fools (including Dear Leader) since his gilded descent in 2015. It is beyond frustrating to hear veterans talk about how “Trump gave money to the vets” (he actually scammed ~ $750K from that supposed charity) and then get shouted down when you inform them of the facts (like every other fact correction attempt with MAGA). Even the union (AFGE) whose standing was eviscerated during Trump I is predominantly made up of pro-Trump folks. As others have said, when things next go wrong, they will somehow blame Biden (or else, “thanks, Obama”).
Trump will give them the same treatment Mitch McConnell did when they stormed his office about it, and we’ll get “wonderful” shots of aging veterans in wheelchairs being dragged out by police claiming they’re “a danger to the public at large”.
Remember the Bonus Army?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonus_Army
Perhaps Elmo going after VA benefits will spark a response similar to the Bonus Army that protested the government reneging on its commitment to give WW1 vets a retroactive bonus for their service to the nation.
We may see a “Trumptown”, like Hooverville.
Sorry Cabo but that will be a pretty lonely revolt you have in DC. As TrumpCo disassembles the VA, the GOP and Fox News will cite it as an unavoidable residual effect from some Biden policy and most will fall for the con again.
I haven’t trusted and actively avoided Zeynep Tufekci and her writing since October 2016 when she insisted Democrats should offer financial donations* to help restore the GOP’s local office in Hillsborough NC after it was firebombed.
Didn’t even wait to for fire investigation to finish its work. Gave absolutely ZERO thought to what the GOP had been doing to NC voters, particularly Black voters, in that state.
Absolutely ridiculous inability to see the parallels in this event with the fire set by extremists in Turkey in 1993, about which she wrote in her 2017 paper, Twitter and Tear Gas: The Power and Fragility of Networked Protest. Citizen journalists researched that fire deeply, which she lauded. She didn’t wait for that in North Carolina, though, simply demanded Democrats help their opposition though the GOP could well have set the fire themselves (I don’t believe that was ever ruled out).
She made no similar call for the GOP to fund recovery of the Maricopa AZ Democratic Party office after a disgruntled and disturbed Democrat burned it down.
Only surprised she hasn’t jumped up and volunteered information about identifying the UHC CEO’s assassin given her interest in that technology.
See: https://x.com/zeynep/status/904683388354867201
* Dan Gillmor, Jeff Jarvis, Clay Shirky, and Joe Trippi were also involved in the fundraising. At least Gillmor and Jarvis have been loud about the descent into fascism since then.
Meanwhile…
Which is worse? The “celebration” of an assassination as protest against ~70,000 deaths a year due to healthcare insurers’ denials? Or the absolute dearth of solid reporting about a minor’s death by white supremacist on the same day in the same city?
Or is it all interrelated, of a piece — the gross indifference to human life of the corporate sector and the oligarchs who benefit most from it?
*crickets*
I had not heard this. Thank you for the info.
A historian’s perspective: Heather Cox Richardson:
Letters From an American December 5, 2024
https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/december-5-2024
Richardson notes this about face from Anthem Blue Cross Blue Shield, over its proposed, newly constipated coverage for anesthesiology. It illustrates her point about why the industry is facing a tsunami of Schadenfreude over the murder of UHC’s CEO.
Blue Cross Blue Shield’s argument for attempting to restrict coverage for anesthesiology. was that it was attempting to “make insurance more affordable.” That’s industryspeak for “more profitable.” The day of UHC’s CEO’s murder, though, it decided to rethink that change.
Once you sidestep the road apples, that’s industryspeak for, “We got caught trying to increase our already exorbitant profits. The aftermath of the murder of a health insurer CEO — whose company has about a third of the market and leads his industry in denying coverage — is a dangerous time to do that. We’ll tactically retreat until this blows over, then try again.”
Aren’t insurance companies second only to banks in terms of power?
I don’t get why insurance companies don’t use this power to stop private equity from taking over medical specialties and hospitals and jacking up prices. Seems like they could keep more money in their already bulging pockets by doing that than trying to scrape it from working people.
I looked up my provider. The insurance company owns/is the provider.
Optum is a behemoth in the healthcare industry, reaping profits for parent company UnitedHealth Group by having virtually every payer and over 5,000 hospitals in its portfolio. Optum works with about 300 health plans, including the insurance arm of UnitedHealth Group, UnitedHealthcare.
off topic: It is curious the amount of resources going in to investigating this murder. Control of violence seems one sided.
Without its CEOs and CFOs, Manhattan would be a ghost town.
A lot of resources are devoted to solving many murders. But, yes, when the dead had a lot of money or juice, they tend to get more. Might be one reason the Internets are so full of poetic “thoughts and prayers” for this particular gun victim.
Very noticeable in the Bloomberg reporting is the ‘I know that place’ aspect. Although I tried to counter it in my own reporting, it is very natural to think that an incident on your street is more significant than a similar incident in Pocatello.
And yet NYPD’s clearance rate is below 40%.
‘The richest man in the world is about to come for VA Health Care and once that fails to make way for new tax cuts, Medicare.’
And he’s also meddling in UK gubmint by suggesting he might gift Nigel ‘I’m too busy licking Donnie’s choccy starfish to actually do anything for my constituents in wherever the hell it was I got elected to’ Farage a few spare millions to do whatever it is Nige actually wants to do.
I’m in two minds here. There are plenty of people telling us Donny’s better organised this time, he knows the levers of gubmint, all that shit. But, recent reports are suggesting that the back-stabbing and chaos is every bit as bad as before. And he’s not even in office yet. Are we in Roman Emperor electing his horse territory?
Or, might he not be as bad as he pretends. There might be something to his ‘madman’ schtick.
The planet will survive. It might not need us humans but it will be beautiful and it will survive in some form.
If, as is being suggested, he sacks a yuge amount of ‘deep state’ people, is he actually going to be capable of doing what he wants to do? I lived through a civil service/private transiton years ago: it did not go well as far as getting work done went. Not enough qualified people in the places where they were needed. It was a bit of a mess. We did what we could because we believed in public service but if you haven’t got the resources there, it ain’t going to work.
The small people that need government services to work will be the ones that suffer.
Under the new regime the powerful/rich/friends will get direct access to those services. No taxes need be paid, no barriers.
“Under the new regime the powerful/rich/friends will get direct access to those services. No taxes need be paid, no barriers.”
This is what they mean by “government efficiency,” government money more efficiently lining their pockets.
I keep thinking of how our society has a ritual for every school shooting, a pattern or catharsis, genuflection, and absolution, so school shootings function for our society in a kind of way like seasonal human sacrifices, or a purge. How we process and accommodate to the slaughter of dozens of school-children reinforces the category of “logical murders”. This establishes a religion of nihilism where the “denial of claims” by health insurance companies is a good sacrifice for capitalism, or a sacred form of violence. Now we can make another kind of ritualized murder. The murder of an executive, a ritual catharsis for Shiva, for “the good of society” “for the cancer patients” “for the children” but not with hammer or with a noose, but a new guillotine, these message bullets, and we can celebrate afterwards, while the women on Bluesky upvote each other imagining fucking the hero.
We were all rebelling against capitalist nihilism because “capitalism is the murderer!” but in celebrating murder, find its Maoist mirror image, which is an identical nihilism. It is very disturbing for me how fascism is a general social breakdown into lawlessness or mob violence. It’s almost impossible to resist, nonviolently, like a lynch mob, seeking the symbol for execution that can unite everyone, but it’s not a noose, a hammer, cross, falling from windows, guillotine or message bullets, the totalitarian symbol is “disappearance”, and so an individual in a totalitarian state has a “being towards their own disappearance”.
We are not an issue to ourselves to celebrate murder, and we form the constitution of a terror state inside of ourselves and disappear from ourselves. I think we need Lao Tze, the Buddha, Jesus Christ and Albert Camus. We need every incarnation of Vishnu to come help us, I think, Beowulf and Ahura Mazda too. We need a Unitarian Jihad with cake and juice instead of message bullets.
[Moderator’s note: this comment is 315 words. You’re backsliding, wetzel. Tighten up your prose. /~Rayne]
I bet that reads better in English.
Hwæt, ic swefna cyst secgan wylle
hwæt mē gemætte to midre nihte
syðþan reordberend reste wunedon.
Old English isn’t contemporary English.
Don’t be a dick, Wetzel. EoH was being subtle about your continuing challenge to be concise and your difficulty heeding moderator warnings.
From the Book of Vermicelli, no doubt.
Earl of at 12:41 PM:
Arrgh – a Pastafarian at heart?
FSM be praised!
(Don’t be too hard on me Rayne…)
I’m surprised the Republicans and the NRA aren’t screaming at Canada right now, since we just added a bunch of gun types to the “illegal to possess in any capacity” list. Of course, the Conservatives are arguing this won’t help anybody and are trying to use the NRA’s favorite trick; complaining that the government is using the term “assault weapon” and claiming they don’t know what an “assault weapon” is…
Shootings of bosses are so vanishingly rare that they cannot possibly be thought of as social rituals.
If this gets repeated it’s fully a ritual, but in every other way it seems to qualify. It affirms shared values and identity, and contributes to a sense of belonging within the anti-Capitalist community. The nature of this mass psychosis makes certain to be repeated regularly. Maybe I am pessimistic. In the Greek practice of pharmakos, a human scapegoat was sacrificed to appease the gods and purify the community, but was there an original murder? Surely there was a first killing that functioned in Greek society something like this.
There are more things in heaven and earth than are dreamt of in your assumptions.
wetzel’s comment has reminded me of a haunting post by Kieran Healy (a sociology prof at Duke University) on the ritualization of mass shootings:
“Rituals, especially the rituals of childhood, are a powerful way to naturalize arbitrary things. As a child in Ireland, I thought it natural to take the very body of Christ in the form of a wafer of bread on my tongue. My own boy and girl, in America, think it natural that a school is a place where you must know what to do when someone comes there to kill the children.”
(https://kieranhealy.org/blog/archives/2019/08/03/rituals-of-childhood/)
I am pretty sure the Gilded Age group only reformed because they tried everything else first. This crew banned alcohol as that was cheaper than educating their workforce, while also passing the 16th and 17th Amendments, which certainly protected their wealth from taxation (16th) and kept them in control of the Senate on a much cheaper basis (17th).
I grew up hearing stories about how my grandmother cleaned John Dillinger’s room in Dayton Ohio and his story is probably more in line with the current killing of the CEO than the Gilded Age linking. John was a hero to the poor and disenfranchised for multiple reasons, one of which was the fact that he destroyed the mortgage records of those being screwed by the banks during the Depression. It took some doing to rat out John and gun him down including a threat of deportation….
https://explorethearchive.com/john-dillinger
It tells me that this one murder has the corporate elite shook. While we have endured the slaughter of countless children, it only takes one or two powerful people to go down before they cry “uncle”. Because they feel more entitled to live than our kids. Democracy literally protects us all. But they think protection comes from “control”. Obama said on December 5th, it’s time for us to fight back. We must. I am not suggesting it’s time for us to murder, but there are always extremists and there will be extremists on the left just as the right extremists have been responsible for killing people. Insanity is the natural response to power and control.
OT: The Syrian army has folded, and Assad has fled (and may be dead: the plane he was reported to be on went down).
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2024/12/7/syria-war-live-news-govt-says-president-al-assad-has-not-fled-damascus
Would be a “real shame” if the optometrist’s plane went down. Thoughts and prayers.
The Assads ruled Syria longer than I have been alive. Couldn’t be happier that they had to flee. Good fucking riddance.
Russian state media (no, not going to link anything) reports that the optometrist’s in Moscow. Maybe he can eventually get accredited by Rand Paul.
Shirley, you mean ophthalmologist, not optometrist.
The Russian media seems to be scrabbling around creating face saving narratives for Putin/Russia within this debacle as reported by SteveRosenberg’s review of Russia Press today https://bsky.app/profile/bbcstever.bsky.social/post/3lcu6qykmok2g
As for the safety of Assad – IMHO that is a proposition yet to be supported by credible evidence.
It is possible that the Assad granted asylum narrative purporting to have been sourced to an unnamed Kremlin insider is not true, but an information management exercise as the Kremlin scrambled to control the fall out of Assad’s downfall.
Update Guardian on its live politics feed reports at 9:56 GMT that Peskov in his regular briefing confirmed that
Putin personally granted Assad asylum
“ During his regular morning media briefing, as well as saying that it had been Vladimir Putin who had approved asylum for Bashar al-Assad in Russia, Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov was also asked about the continued presence of Russian military resources inside Syria.”
I would also point out the chokehold murder of Jordan Neely on the NYC subway by a vigilante whose manslaughter charges were just dismissed after jury could not reach a verdict.
Penny still faces a charge of criminally negligent homicide:
https://apnews.com/article/daniel-penny-nyc-subway-chokehold-death-trial-e7db3b52395aa61a80adbac5cf8ea9b4
And the reason for the controversy over the Penny case is that at least one witness claimed Neely said words to the effect of “Someone is going to die today”. If Neely did say that, then Penny’s initial actions were justifiable- the question then becomes “Should Penny have let go sooner?”
Nothing Daniel Penny did was justifiable. Fuck that.
No, it’s not. Why ask whether the choke hold should have been relieved sooner? That’s asking whether the man should be dead or not. Most people would say, no, his behavior did not require privately administered capital punishment. FFS.
I sure hope when the net closes on this person, that he is not killed and has his day in court. The murder is shocking, has sent shockwaves, and a trial will help the cause.
The prairie fire is coming. One way or another.
I not quibbling with your point about “open” celebration, but I think Tufekci’s main point was how BROAD the celebratory (or at least jaded) reaction has been, as the deceased CEO instantly became a stand-in for our dysfunctional health care system:
“The rage that people felt at the health insurance industry, and the elation that they expressed at seeing it injured, was widespread and organic. It was shocking to many, but it crossed communities all along the political spectrum and took hold in countless divergent cultural clusters.”
This New Yorker article is a good companion piece: https://www.newyorker.com/news/the-lede/what-the-murder-of-the-unitedhealthcare-ceo-brian-thompson-means-to-america
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I think this is the piece which should have run before Tufekci’s:
The nexus between insurers and the human experience which spurred both the assassination and the public’s reaction is health care professionals who are forced to persuade insurers to pay and assure their patients in spite of insurers’ persistent bad faith. We should be listening to them about what works and what doesn’t.
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Unfortunately, people are murdered every day in this country. Why is this murder getting this kind of coverage? Two reasons, I think. One, the victim was a very rich man. Two is a little more complicated in that even though the perpetrator committed cold-blooded murder, he has become a kind of folk hero. That is testament to the kind of anger that is just under the surface — in general in this country, and specifically when it comes to healthcare and insurance. Woody Guthrie wrote a tune about Pretty Boy Floyd. Will someone of equal stature write a tune about the killer (who, I am sure, will be caught, or killed while evading capture)? Meanwhile, Musk and Ramaswamy have their eyes on VA Health and Medicare. And DJT with his “concept of a plan” to eradicate/replace the ACA would be testing the limits of his “mandate” should any of those three programs be touched. I don’t get it, but the fact of the matter is that a lot of people who feel they are one emergency away from destitution felt Trump was the man to pull them away from that financial ledge. Making an already shaky healthcare regime worse would be a disaster for the new administration.
OT-ish: Add the McClatchy conglomerate to those aiming for Gilded Age inclusion. I usually buy the local WA State P/E hollowed out McClatchy paper on Sundays (one of two days they have a print edition) just to see the one or two actual local news stories. Today in the grocery store:
Checker: Just a head’s up that they raised the price to $9.99.
Me: You’re joking??!!
Checker: Nope
Me: LOLOLOLOLOL
I honestly can’t wrap my head around what they’re doing. I mean, if you want to kill the print edition just kill it. This is a wafer thin edition that has almost nothing but days old article re-prints with one or two lonely local stories. The Seattle Times Sunday paper remains at $4.00.
Any of you have McClatchy local papers, and if so did they also raise the Sunday price to (LOLOLOL) $9.99?
Ten dollars for a routine Sunday edition of a morning newspaper? That’s a publisher who wants to stop publishing its print edition on Sunday, and is overpricing it to generate failure, which it will use to justify shutting it down.
Exactly. No one is gonna pay $9.99 for a single (wafer thin) Sunday paper. My confusion is who McClatchy thinks they have to justify anything to? The price is right there on the paper – it’s not like they’re doing anything in secret.
They want $54 a month for the print edition of the Sacramento Bee, and something like $40 for the digital version. (People say it’s a decent paper, but the customer service is very poor.)
Zeynep Tufekci is old enough that she can’t be unaware that the murders of abortion providers, the Oklahoma City bombing, and other violent acts were met with unbridled glee and explicit calls for more of the same. And yet she is clutching her pearls because some critics of the murderous, rapacious US health insurers are, if not gleeful over Thompson’s murder, seem a bit less than sympathetic about his murder if the policies he enacted and upheld were, in fact, the shooter’s motive. It’s breathtakingly disingenuous.
Thanks for the reminder that we have only speculation about why UHC’s CEO was murdered. The clues left behind could point to one, or be red herrings.
The Schadenfreude over his death, though, is well deserved, owing to the way he and his predecessor abused their customers, by denying health care claims at twice the industry average, and made themselves filthy rich. But it’s not personal, it’s strictly business.
It’s a better line in the book than the movie, imo. “Tom, don’t let anybody kid you. It’s all personal, every bit of business. Every piece of shit every man has to eat every day of his life is personal. They call it business. OK. But it’s personal as hell.” Mario Puzo, The Godfather
It’s all personal.
That bit of dialogue has long since left either medium and become part of the wider culture. So has, “You’re gonna need a bigger boat,” which also seems applicable just now.
The dialogue is from the book, Coppola and Puzo flipped it for the screen play. In the book, it’s strictly personal, not business, which reflects reality but not tight screen drama.
This flipping and morphing makes me think of Ms. Wheeler. She reads the source books and files to hold the actual thread throughout. Most people (myself at least) can’t keep it straight like she does.
As the executioner swung the blade said “it’s not personal, it’s strictly business.” We all have jobs to do that may pay our bills or make our lieges happy. So nice to have a quick response to the “But why?”
I’m old enough to remember that Daniel Penny was acquitted of manslaughter and negligent homicide for choking Jordan Neely to death, and a lot of people cheered.
And having that team of advocates at the helm for the good guys will do exactly what?
I’ll save you the glucose. Zero.
Why?
Both the economic and educational frameworks for the general US population over the last forty years, have created a populace that lacks the comprehension to even begin understanding the simplicity of what has happened, much less what awaits us.
Why?
While digitalia is most certainly wonderful (both here and on Pornhub, Reddit and YouTube) it is a poor substitute for local journalism. The OG tool of the community and citizen. The Head Start equivalent for minimally engaged adults.
Why?
It creates a shared experience and a shared language across demographics within communities.
Without those, who exactly will care what’s going on? And of them, who has the communication skills to engage?
We may be better served looking down and get to work as opposed to looking up gawking and commenting. Or worse yet, participating.
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I’m sure that made sense when you wrote it. Now, not so much.
Thanks for the example of my point. Exactly.
To assume you understand my point. Without a question.
How do we build on that?
To whom did you intend to address your comment? It’s not clear you hit the Reply button below a particular comment.
To obtain greater understanding from readers, make more effort addressing focused comments.
TY for the comments and insight,
Fell
Oh, my. I wasn’t talking about my understanding. And if you think my comment illustrates your point, it makes mine. But keep digging.
Comment without understanding. Again, point made. And we’ve built our modern world on this type of engagement.
I’ll keep digging.
Why the attitude of superior insight and knowledge? How has that helped a conversation arise out of the original essay?
Given your focus on “glucose” and “digitalia,” I’m not the one claiming superior insight. Physician, heal thyself.
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I’d point out that there’s a disingenuous response floating around on Twitter to the above graphic : “oh Elon is just cutting programs whose Congressional approval have lapsed.”
While strictly true, it doesn’t really matter, as due to Congress’s Constitutional authority as the sole appropriator, even if the statutory authorization for a program has expired, Congress may keep it alive by continuing to appropriate funds to it.
The issue I see with this, is that it’s only true if this Supreme Court believes that the Impoundment Control Act is constitutional. Previously, the Supreme Court has said it is, and moreover has opined that even if it weren’t it wouldn’t matter, Congress has sole authority over the power of the purse, and appropriated funds must be spent.
However, that was yesterday’s Supreme Court, so who knows?
I know you know this, but Elmo isn’t cutting anything. At best, all he and Ramaswamy can do is recommend to Trump – after he becomes president – and Congress that changes take place.
I think it’s important to keep the monkey on the backs of Trump and Congress, and net let it slip over to Elmo and the non-existent Dept of Govt Efficiency. DOGE exists only as a marketing slogan, and not an agency or dept of govt or even an outside-of-govt task force. Much of the press allows that, which is another major failing.
Fair enough, I do know that, of course. My point is that there is disinfo out there that just because some Congressional approval has expired, the funding somehow can be impounded. The impoundment control act and past case law tells us otherwise.
The other aspect of, “it’s just expired funding” that I meant to address (but forgot to), is that the VA Health Care Eligibility Reform Act of 1996 (which is the basis of the “expired program” meme, since it was only initially authorized through 1998) provides the mechanism for most veterans to be able to get health care period through the VA. Prior to this landmark legislation, only 100% service connected folks for specific ailments, for the most part, were able to get VA provided health care. Rescinding such spending would basically turn the clock back and render thousands of veterans suddenly ineligible for care. The outcry would be gigantic.
I think we need to hammer that point home as well.
If the government is to operate as the law provides, Musk and Ramaswamy will jerk around Washington saying much and accomplishing absolutely nothing other than perhaps lobbyists at large for the annual budget. If, however, we find they are successfully eliminating line items from the budget in some mysterious manner, we’re in big trouble because it means we have no government in fact.
I like to think I don’t condone violence so I am puzzled that I feel no empathy or sympathy whatsoever for the murdered CEO.
Perhaps a sign of our times?
I’ve become more jaded and cynical in my old age, but I still manage to feel empathy for all living beings. I suppose it may help that I’m an animal advocate.
Re: this specific case, my wife and I both have coverage through UHC, and we’ve both had claims denied, but I can’t help but feel empathy for the victim & sympathy for his family, colleagues and friends.
Maybe try a little harder to connect with those feelings? That’s all I’ve got for you.
“…bullshit claim that “A core goal of Mr. Musk and the Silicon Valley set has been to improve the efficiency of government services.”)”
Paul Krugman agrees:
“Now, in the end none of this may matter. The real purpose of DOGE is, arguably, to give Elon Musk an opportunity to strut around, feeling important. And while it’s a clown show, these clowns — unlike some of the other people Trump may put in office — won’t be in a position to inflict major damage on national security, public health and more.
But it is a clown show, and everyone should treat it as such.”
Worth a read in it’s entirety:
https://paulkrugman.substack.com/p/the-fraudulence-of-waste-fraud-and
Gee, I can’t understand why Krugman had to leave NYT’s Opinion Columns to write something like this. /s
This clown show will be riding around in real cars, juggling real knives and torches, and slapping people around for real. The framework of a fantasy dept, with no staffing, budget or authority, but all the weight of Trump’s propaganda machine behind it, will do real damage to govt and American society. That’s its purpose. It will be only one prong of Trump’s attack. He has all the rage in the world and nothing to lose.
As if the last four decades of alternating rule has been an improvement for the majority of adults and children.
We collectively created this monster and the environment he evolved within. The propaganda machine is real. It just won an election. I do not see any equivalent for the other side. This wonderful blog seems to prove truth and common sense have limited demand. To much energy and language comprehension needed. Plus getting excoriated for trying is dissuasive.
Wonder what our grandchildren’s thoughts will be on this matter from their plinth of 2064?