Lessons from Red States on How to Push Back
The comments on Marcy’s post yesterday telling folks to go stare at the ocean to get their heads in a better place, instead of becoming paralyzed and stuck in the face of last weeks election, make it clear that she struck a nerve with how folks are feeling 10 days after the election. I’ve had a bunch of face-to-face conversations with friends and parishioners on both sides of the Missouri/Kansas state line, encouraging much the same kind of self-care. But once your head is clear, then what?
Why, then it’s time for some good troublemaking, and if you want to know about making good trouble while at a serious political disadvantage, let me tell you a couple of stories from ruby red Missouri and her not-quite-so-ruby-red sister Kansas.
Back in 2019, the Kansas Supreme Court ruled that the state constitution’s declaration of fundamental rights includes the rights of women to control their own bodies, including the right to an abortion:
We conclude that, through the language in section 1, the state’s founders acknowledged that the people had rights that preexisted the formation of the Kansas government. There they listed several of these natural, inalienable rights—deliberately choosing language of the Declaration of Independence by a vote of 42 to 6.
Included in that limited category is the right of personal autonomy, which includes the ability to control one’s own body, to assert bodily integrity, and to exercise self-determination. This right allows a woman to make her own decisions regarding her body, health, family formation, and family life—decisions that can include whether to continue a pregnancy. Although not absolute, this right is fundamental. Accordingly, the State is prohibited from restricting this right unless it is doing so to further a compelling government interest and in a way that is narrowly tailored to that interest.
Predictably, the GOP’s evangelical right wing in Kansas went nuts. After whining about the state Supremes, they got to work to overturn this opinion by a constitutional amendment. They wrote their amendment very carefully, got all the necessary signatures, and made the political decision to put it on the August 2022 primary election ballot. That choice presumed that this would make it easier to pass, as primary elections tend to draw only the hard-core voters, which they thought would work in their favor.
To borrow a phrase, they chose poorly.
While everyone was preparing for that election, SCOTUS handed down the Dobbs opinion. The wingnuts cheered, and progressives wailed. But the progressives in Kansas did more than whine and whinge.
Young people, particularly young women in Lawrence (U of KS), Manhattan (K State), Wichita (Wichita St), and the KC suburbs of metro KC got to work. First, they recruited other young people, registered them in huge numbers, and got them fired up enough to get their friends to register and then fired up enough to actually turn out to vote. Second, and at least as important, the local KS folks driving the resistance convinced all the usual national groups that the language to use to fight this battle was not the language of women’s rights, but the language of choice in health care decision-making. “Do you really want bureaucrats in Topeka getting between you and your doctor?”
That language resonated, because the local folks knew their neighbors and the national folks trusted the local activists. I had countless conversations with longtime Kansas republicans, quoting it back to me approvingly as they told me of their decision to vote no and defeat the amendment. And the result wasn’t even close – the amendment went down by roughly 60-40 margins. The local reaction was amazing:
“You guys, we did it,” said Rachel Sweet, campaign manager for Kansans for Constitutional Freedom, as she addressed a crowd of abortion-rights supporters at a watch party in Overland Park. “We blocked this amendment. Can you believe it?”
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Voters showed up in unforeseen numbers in urban areas of the state, while rural areas underperformed compared with turnout in the presidential race two years ago.“From the moment lawmakers put this on a primary ballot, we knew this was going to be an uphill battle, but we did not despair,” Sweet said. “We put in the work and these numbers speak for themself.”
Dawn Rattan, who attended the watch party in Overland Park, said the defeat of the amendment shows that reproductive health care is an issue that crosses party lines, “and people everywhere want women to have a choice.” She was moved to tears when the result was announced.
“I was so scared,” Rattan said. “I was so worried that it was going to be really close, and this is just so decisive, it’s not even close.
The activists in Kansas were as angry as anyone else about Dobbs, and they didn’t let feelings of impotence about the Supreme Court paralyze them and keep them from working on the local level. Instead of crying about places where they couldn’t make a difference, they found a place where they *could* make a difference. And then they worked their butts off to make their state a marginally safer place to be a woman of reproductive age.
Another story, from across the state line . . .
As COVID was raging in Missouri, Eric Schmitt — then the MO Attorney General — had a rather unique approach to his job. He had his eye on the 2022 Senate race where he would be up against a couple of well-funded primary opponents, and he was at a distinct financial disadvantage. In early 2021, he realized that every time he announced that his office intended to sue someone over a mask mandate or other COVID health regulation, his campaign fundraising went up. A lot. He didn’t even have to actually file the lawsuits, though he did file some. The key thing is that just making the announcement on Twitter brought in contributions by the truckload. So he went all in on these announcements and lawsuits, surprising a number of his former colleagues in the state legislature. A friend with connections in Jefferson City shared a couple of conversations with Republican legislators who said some version of “Sure, he’s always been conservative, but always a quiet, get-the-job-done kind of guy. I never would have guessed he’d be threatening lawsuits like this.” But it worked, and his poll numbers began to rise.
In late 2021, Schmitt made a big deal about twisting a case in St. Louis county involving the state’s Department of Health and Senior Services into a precedent giving him the power to prohibit schools from enforcing any mask mandates. He sent cease and desist letters to school districts with such mandates, threatening a lawsuit if they did not rescind their policies. Some did just that, but others did not, including the Lee’s Summit Reorganized District #7 in the KC suburbs. Instead, the lawyer for the LSR7 district responded to Schmitt’s letter with one of his own, announcing their intention to file a countersuit, filing a huge shot across Schmitt’s bow.
The letter is a real gem, gutting Schmitt’s claims on numerous grounds. Most damning, from my point of view, was this from the end:
We don’t need to rely on just these general statutes to demonstrate the Attorney General’s lack of authority in this matter. Consider what the Legislature has authorized school districts to do in the face of a pandemic. Under RSMo. § 167.191:
It is unlawful for any child to attend any of the public schools of this state while afflicted with any contagious or infectious disease, or while liable to transmit such disease after having been exposed to it. For the purpose of determining the diseased condition, or the liability of transmitting the disease, the teacher or board of directors may require any child to be examined by a physician, and exclude the child from school so long as there is any liability of such disease being transmitted by the pupil.
This law speaks for itself. Not only may a school district exclude from school a child who has COVID; it may exclude from school a child who has been exposed to COVID and who is liable to transmit it pending a medical test or examination to confirm that the child is not afflicted with the disease.
In short, the duly elected Lee’s Summit R-7 Board of Education will not abandon its statutory duty to govern the operations of the school district. If you follow through on your threat to sue the District, we will defend that suit vigorously, and pursue all remedies available to the District resulting from any suit that violates Missouri Supreme Court Rule 55.03, which requires among other things that any claim “is not presented or maintained for any improper purpose” and that the claim “is warranted by existing law.”
As strongly worded as this letter is, I have a hunch that the first draft of the letter was much, much stronger.
Realizing he would lose, Schmitt then dropped his suit and asked that the district do the same. The district refused, saying they wanted to pursue the case so that a firm line would be drawn to prohibit any future attempts by Schmitt or a future AG to illegally try to usurp power granted to the schools over some other issue. By the time that suit was heard, Schmitt was gone and the new AG — Andrew Bailey (lately in the news as being on Trump’s shortlist to be nominated to be the US Attorney General) — had taken office. The ruling was not just in the school’s favor, but exactly the kind of smack-down the district lawyer predicted. From the KC Star:
Judge Marco Roldan, in his 18-page ruling, found that Schmitt, a Republican who was elected to the U.S. Senate last year after four years as state attorney general, did not follow Missouri law when he ordered the Lee’s Summit School District to stop enforcing its COVID-19 mitigation efforts in 2021.
“There exists no Missouri law allowing the Attorney General to involve himself in a School District’s efforts to manage COVID-19 or other disease within its schools,” Roldan wrote in his ruling. The ruling offers a scathing rebuke of Schmitt, who had sued Lee’s Summit and dozens of other school districts at the height of the pandemic.
Schmitt regularly touted the suits on social media and used them to elevate himself in his Senate campaign.
“Parents and students followed the Attorney General’s lead, leading to even greater confusion than the pandemic had already caused,” Roldan wrote.
What matters most, here, is not “the courts solved this” but the fact that this school district — in a relatively evenly divided blue/red community — chose to stand up for themselves and their community. Of the 47 districts to receive Schmitt’s cease and desist letter, this was the only district to push back and get it on the record that the AG was way out of bounds trying to dictate to schools how they are to protect the health of students, teachers, and other staff.
In Missouri, we’ve spent years coming to grips with Trumpist nonsense at the state level where the GOP has held supermajorities in both houses of the legislature as well as a firm grip on executive branch offices. Folks in KC and St. Louis have been fighting the wingnuts in various ways, including exploiting differences between conservative GOP legislators and their over-the-top MAGA colleagues. The Dems in the legislature have been very good at offering selective support to the conservatives in order to outflank the MAGA extremists. Some of the things enacted have not been great, but they forestalled much much worse stuff. They have also been very good at using the courts — even with conservative judges — to stop the “But I won and I want to . . .” whinging from the MAGA folks.
[If you are a regular reader of Emptywheel, the mention of the Lee’s Summit School District might ring a faint bell. “Where have I heard that before? Oh, yes, now I remember . . . “]
In both Kansas and Missouri, local activists have been fighting MAGA on the local level for at least 4 years. Progressives in both states had hoped that things would be improving with a Harris victory, but absent that we are well acquainted with how to fight back, and how to win. Did you hear that Missouri just overturned the harshest state abortion law by putting reproductive rights in the state constitution — on the same night that Trump was voted back into the White House?
It can be done. I wish it wasn’t necessary, but last week’s election made it clear that the good troublemaking must go on.
It can be done. It can be done. It can be done. Lather, rinse, repeat.
Young folks and old folks, office holders and informed ordinary citizens, folks of privilege and folks from the margins . . . making good trouble is work for us all. And if any other red state folks here have stories to share, please do. We are strengthened by hearing of victories, and we can learn from each other about how to push back in our neighborhoods.
https://www.inquirer.com/politics/election/casey-mccormick-ballot-counting-recount-20241115.html
Despite two earlier rulings from the Pennsylvania Supreme Court that (undated or wrongly dated) ballots should be rejected in this year’s election, officials in Bucks, Montgomery, Philadelphia, and Centre Counties have bucked that order and voted in recent days to include them.
“A date does not provide us with anything we don’t already know,” said Makhija, the Montgomery County board chair. “I cannot take a vote not to count a ballot we know is validly cast.”
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I voted for Makhija. He’s doing a great job pushing back against MAGA.
P.S. Patience, Dave McCormick. These tight races can take weeks to resolve, as you should’ve learned 4 years ago from Georgia.
Thanks for the link, Matt.
I also heard the story about R board members in MontoCo voting to reject valid provisional ballots where the local judges of elections — NOT the voter — failed to follow procedure when managing provisionals at the polls (the required inner privacy envelopes were missing or unsigned, etc.).
I watched the BOE meeting online. The Repub lawyer was getting visibly irritated after the 2 D’s on the board repeatedly voted and passed various motions to count ballots. i really enjoyed that.
Just wanted to put in some props for the JoE’s out there (I’m in Montco), pretty much all of us were INUNDATED on election day. In our role, we are required to manage all exceptions that occur, fill out tons of forms (one for every exception), step in when a voter has a problem and calm everyone down, know all the current laws and abide by them, pay attention to what is going on in the polling place at large and ensure everyone is following the rules, deal with poll watchers who want to play games, do all the reconciliation of the ballots, pollbooks, close up the machines, record all the seals and other such numbers associated with the scanners at the end of a 15 hour shift with few or no breaks AND step in when any of the poll workers don’t know what to do. Yeah, we make mistakes. We don’t want to, but it happens. It is impossible to be perfect with the responsibility of that job and is not for the faint of heart, for sure. Given the environment, who would want to do it?
I put this in an earlier thread, but I’ll repeat it here.
On election day, when I went to the poll to cast my vote, there was a line but it moved pretty easily along. While waiting for a seat to get freed up, suddenly a voice from the check-in table shouted out “We’ve got a first-time voter here!” The other judges cheered, and the voters at the tables filling their ballots and the voters like me who were waiting in line cheered as well. This probably happened five or six times while I was there.
Don’t know if this was an idea that one of the judges in that precinct came up with, or if it was going on all over the county, but it was really a neat thing to be part of.
“Yeah, we make mistakes.”
Guilty conscience? Just come out and admit you rigged the election.
Sorry, I couldn’t resist sarcasm.
Thank you for your service!
I made ballot curing calls to PA. I suppose some of these issues were complicating what voters could understand about whatever problem caused their ballot to be questioned. I think most of these calls were being made to people who had already been called several times.
One young man I spoke to said he had had no trouble voting and that the ballot was separated from the envelope, so how would they know it was his? I bet it was one of the inner envelope problems, and if he had not been given all the materials and told how to assemble them, how would he know that triggered a problem?
A woman told me her polling location had trouble with the machines and people left.. My frustration with the curing process was the lack of any means to flag the curing organizers about these kinds of issues. I only talked to a few people with my calls (a lot of not home/no answer) but of those few I really had no way to help them in the end. The form we got had no place to make a note or bring attention to the concerns voters had.
https://www.inquirer.com/politics/election/casey-mccormick-recount-us-senate-race-election-denial-20241116.html
MAGA then: We need to find more votes! We do not concede! We have rights!
MAGA now: Stop the Count! You need to concede! You’re trying to steal it!
I give MAGA credit. They’ve taught me to have a level of hatred and contempt I never thought possible.
I’m still getting daily emails from Bob Casey asking for donations but with no mention of the recount. Thanks for the link
Peterr – Your post is interesting as you note fights I agree with. However, there is a saying about baby and bathwater. At CPAC 2024, whether you believe him or not, Gaetz concluded his speech noting “ethics.” He mentioned support that no member of Congress could afterwards be a lobbyist or representative of a foreign country (no grace period ending the ban). He also said no campaign should accept money from a lobbyist. He also spoke against insider trading by Congress members. What is talk with no intended action is a guess, either way, but he did say it. Presuming appointment, if he pushed that way, bless him. We don’t know, hence guess. But the point is, if something agreeable arises, unthinking resistance for its own sake or as a knee-jerk reflex would be wrong. In effect, choose good fights, but accept reform if any arises.
I can guess at probabilities as anyone else can, but if this Trump second term were to push Medicare for All, I would not oppose it simply because Biden did not push it.
I worry about Hegseth, budget size etc., and The Posse Comitatus Act, but if he gets in, budget management precedent in the Pentagon is no virtue he should aim for. The spending cannot or has not been audited, nor precise. If he gets the books in order without fucking up other things, I’d admit a good job if I see one.
Username checks out.
I don’t think any serious observer could take Gaetz’ words on ethics as anything other than self-serving bullshit. “We don’t know” …? Of course we do. He’s really a terrible guy in just about every way.
There is nobody in this administration who will be considering M4A?
And Hegseth has never run anything bigger than a platoon. The idea that he might be able to reduce the budget is not realistic. If anything, he’ll be spending more so Trump’s backers make more.
I’m usually pretty laid back when I comment here, but your post is just nonsense.
Along the line of things Gaetz “says” sometimes:
A friend of mine follows the substack of Matt Stoller, of whom I know absolutely nothing about, yet I have heard his name here and there. Apparently his focus of interest is anti-trust and anti-monopoly issues.
After Gaetz was nominated for AG, he wrote a substack that seems to me to be a wishy-washy word salad of apologetics for Gaetz because Gaetz has at some time stated he is interested in breaking up big tech companies and he has also stated his agreement with some ideas Lina Khan has propounded at the FTC.
But…what the man says and what he actually does and then having pundits of whatever stripe out there trying to rationalize a few reasonable-sounding policy statements to say “maybe this guy could be OK at the job despite his other obvious personal failings” is such a bankrupt way of thinking, and yet still push that out to a less-informed public audience…smh
Re believing Gaetz or not with respect to ethics, put me down for “not.” And if you are holding your breath waiting for Trump to propose (let alone push to adopt) Medicare for All, . . . well, good luck with that.
Trump said he would be hiring “all the best people.” Gaetz has said “Defund the FBI, ATF, and the whole DOJ.”
Watch what they do, and take note of what they have done in the past.
“I can guess at probabilities as anyone else can.” Maybe not.
Matt Gaetz has a longer history of lying than he does fulfilling promises of the sort you talk about. It’s infinitely more probable that he’s making shit up to help his confirmation. Trump’s history of lying and promising things he doesn’t and never intended to deliver is much longer.
Maybe it’s a contest, each one trying to alt-right-sleight-of-hand outdo the others. The contest ends, apparently, when human civilization implodes?
This stuff is like saying Hitler created the autobahn. If they give out medals in Hell, he’ll get one for sure.
Hitler, that is. Gaetz is still earning his stripes.
The word “ethics” and Matt Gaetz in the same sentence is an oxymoron. Check out some of Joel Greenberg’s activities, many of which Gaetz participated in, that earned him 12 years in prison:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/joel-greenberg-sentenced-sex-crimes-freind-matt-gaetz/
As far as Hegseth is concerned, he is a violent, ignorant man who Trump liked because he “looks like he came out of Central Casting”. His police incident with a woman in Malibu was allegedly violent, but the woman signed an NDA. You know a hush money payment was involved. I am also worried Hegseth couldn’t count to eleven without taking his shoes off, much less manage a multi-billion dollar, international budget
I did expect some related commentary about Gaetz, but I did also mention Hegseth, with no disagreement. I note Hegseth has tattoo dimensions that have surfaced: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14077417/Fox-News-host-Pete-Hegseths-tattoos-decoded-Donald-Trump-Secretary-Defense.html
There are other reports but Daily Mail style is to show images, and they are worrisome images. Why people ink themselves is itself a mindset I do not understand. But how Hegseth has is a story.
Tying that to Peterr’s theme, the inking opens the man to criticism, and piling on cannot do any harm to those seeing Hegseth as a bad nominee, a threat to reason, and wishing to resist the nomination.
The Daily Mail is always good for a laugh. In this case it’s them saying Hegseth is an “out of left field” nominee. They even repeat that left field designation a couple times in the piece and photo captions. Not bone-jarring laugh inducing, just good for the kind of laugh when, say, you see Trump fellating a mic and (separately and consecutively) a stand.
I have no idea whether Hegseth’s tatoo situation is a thing, but I’ll damn sure avoid going to that site for anything other than scorn-fodder.
As I noted in a previous post the Daily Mail entirety missed the point about Hegseth’s tattoos and in particular the significance of the ‘Deus Vult’ tattoo which is now recognised as a Christian Fascist slogan
https://www.emptywheel.net/2024/11/13/litmus-tests-likely-explain-who-the-fuck-is-pete-hegseth/#comment-1078842
It should also be noted that it was indeed this tattoo with its associations with white supremacism and Christian Nationalism/Fascism that caused Hesgeth to be rejected from duty in DC in the aftermath of January 6
Harpie has uncovered reports and details relevant email confirming those facts and excerpts the email in her post here https://www.emptywheel.net/2024/11/15/boris-epshteyns-one-two-punch-on-doj/#comment-1079437
A screenshot of the email from the anti terrorist force protection unit reporting on Hegseth to relevant authorities appears here
https://apnews.com/article/trump-defense-department-pentagon-hegseth-fox-news-8cd9f065e54a7cbbaceeec8bae9261a6
TY Steve. So it’s all of a theocratic piece.
I have a tattoo that would preclude me from serving in the upcoming Gilead regime. It’s a coat hanger with the words “never again” scripted under it. Unquestionably it would be a disqualification under any admin, especially the gleeful forced birth men and sex predators who will run Trump’s army of retribution.
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“Why people ink themselves is itself a mindset I do not understand.”
Those that ink themselves are not in the slightest asking anyone for undetrstanding. As for me, I gave up an arm sleeve for my dearly departed combat brothers. My mindset is “All gave some, some gave all”.
Semper Fidelis
Millennium Eldest Purple Son, ninja accountant and international tax lead for a 2k-employee global specialized IT services firm, has a single visible tattoo on the inside of his left forearm: a relatively large, stylized modern black-ink-line-drawn version of da Vinci’s Vitruvian Man. I like it.
His long-time girlfriend/life partner (and as a few months ago, fiancé) has a number of visible tattoos, well-displayed with habitual summer spaghetti-strap tops (plus a piercing). Everything seems well-done and a couple I consider real art.
I’ve asked both of them general must be an interesting story behind that questions and they are interesting stories. I see value neither in criticizing the art nor questioning their judgement, and really don’t understand why anyone believes such an approach brings any benefit.
One important exception: intentionally evil-message-bearing tattoos like Hegseth’s. But that objection is to the whole-person message of animus to others, not to the medium used to express that animus.
Thank you for that. I’ve been biting my tongue because in some cultures, body ink is and has been critically important.
Ink has been part of human culture around the world for at least 5000 years, with Oetzi the mummy found in the Alps providing proof with 61 tattoos on his body, and the Chinchorro Chilean mummy wearing a facial tattoo. Many indigenous peoples use tattoos for a wide variety of reasons, from religious statements to indications of social status, to marks of achievement.
It is the depth of commitment Hegseth makes in permanently marking his body with a statement of white supremacy which should be troubling, not that he’s inked his skin.
” https://mace.house.gov/immaculateconstellation ”
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https://bsky.app/profile/zachsdorfman.bsky.social/post/3lays326fz22d
Zach Dorfman @zachsdorfman.bsky.social 5h
“There’s something going on. Definitely worth reading the whistleblower report released by Mace.”
11 pages in my bullpen, a bit OT but ‘worth reading’. i’m getting to it soon.
Why is this interesting? Aliens can’t vote and AFAIK don’t make donations or file lawsuits.
Or you could follow Ms. Boebert and discover James Cameron’s, The Abyss. Just as informative.
The Immaculate Constellation Document ?!?
I couldn’t get past the title but do let us know if there is anything that makes a sense in the document.
I have just read it. A scanned unsigned document with all the trimmings necessary for tinfoil hats enthusiasts to have a flash orgasm.
Sputnik and RT publish a large amount of stories about aliens, because if you are open to that, that there is so much you are not told about, and aliens are among us and “they” don’t want you to know, Russia has found a good host for their next stuff.
Pretty sure Missouri’s last three AG’s are lizard people, Hawley, Schmitt, and Bailey – so gross. But the state’s progressives do great on ballot initiatives. Restoring Roe rules, two minimum wage bumps, paid sick days, first medical then full legal marijuana.
The key, I believe, is that on ballot issues, Missourians actually talk to each other in something other than talking points. Elections for office, however, not so much.
It’s also a fact that until this past election, the Dems could not field anywhere close to a full slate of candidates for every seat in the legislature. “Oh, we’ll never win that district, so why bother?” The party leaders finally figured out that this was a sure way to piss off the Democratic voters in those places, who then would not turn out for statewide-offices.
More on that here, from the Missouri Independent.
I have lived in Missouri almost my whole life. But from 2020 to just recently , I lived in Atchison Kansas. One upside to that move was that I was able to vote to protect reproductive rights in both Kansas and Missouri.
I lived close to Benedictine College and St Benedict Catholic Church. On Father’s Day, I watched my neighbor (a deacon of the church and an employee at the college) raise “An Appeal to Heaven” flag on the pole in front of his home. This was in the midst of the Alito flag controversy and weeks after Harrison Butker (KC Chiefs kicker) spoke at the Benedictine graduation. I was immediately saddened and outraged. I have a transgender daughter, it felt like a gut punch.
I wrote letters to the priest, the assistant priest. I was in contact with the Sisters at Mt Saint Scholastica. I spoke with a number of parishioners, explaining the connection of that flag to Christian nationalism, right wing extremists and January 6. The priest had left the parish. The assistant said it is not his problem and suggested I ask my neighbor why he hung the flag. I did not do that. Parishioners were horrified. None of those folks had heard of the flag and I guarantee you they still voted Republican last week.
I finally wrote to the Archbishop of Kansas City diocese. I did get a response but that official also had never heard of the flag. I forwarded an article to him which hopefully educated him a little. I probably forwarded information to at least 20 people. Two weeks later, the flag came down. It was a small victory, but I was glad I stuck with it until action was taken.
I know a number of the Sisters at Mt St Scholastica, and they were as appalled at Butker’s commencement speech as I was.
Your persistence with the flag is exactly the kind of thing I wanted this post to lift up. Push back locally isn’t as sexy as winning the presidency or taking control of the US Senate, but in these days, that local kind of pushback is absolutely necessary for mitigating the disasters that are coming toward us as well as keeping ourselves sane and not paralyzed.
Keep writing the Archbishop!
Bravissimo! Both for the flag, and the well-timed interstate relocation.
How do we convince people that the right wing’s inability to govern has hurt them without hurting the feelings of those who we are trying to convince? How do we show that the problem is not “government “, but bad governance? How do we show people what their self interest is when their sense of self is dependent on not understanding what is in their self interest?
It requires great care to not be seen as wrong messaging. My example, if you tell people if you trust Trump and team pumping crypto, then go ahead, bet on crypto with your life savings and see where you end up. If they fall into one of the several traps for the unwary that attach to crypto, what they will remember is your telling them to explore it, not that Trump touted a questionable idea. If they somehow score with crypto, they will be thankful to Trump.
You must pose situations where it seems they are likely to get burned in a way that they do not blame you, vs others, if they get burned. There is a need to scapegoat if a belief fails, and care is needed to not end up the scapegoat instead of it being the belief.
In order to push back effectively we need to understand what happened. Today’s article in WaPo, “Inside the Republican false-flag effort to turn off Kamala Harris voters” may be an explainer.
A dark-money project run by advisors to Elon Musk microtargeted potential Kamala voters with fake ads, pitched as if they were from progressive groups but in fact intending to turn off Kamala voters. As examples, Muslim voters in Michigan saw the fake ads praising Kamala “for marrying a Jewish man and backing the Jewish state”, while Jewish voters in Pennsylvania saw fake ads claiming she wanted to stop sending U.S. weapons to Israel.
In other words, they pulled a page from the Russians’ 2016 playbook but using paid advertising instead of social media trolls. And perhaps using Twitter data from Musk for targeting instead of the Cambridge Analytica data purloined from Facebook or whatever the Russians used in 2016.
How effective was it? In 2016, voter turnout by demographics targeted by the Russians was depressed, if I remember right.
If this is what happened, it could help to to explain the “missing votes”, why Kamala got 7 million or so fewer votes than Biden in 2020. And as of right now, the number of 2024 ballots tallied is about 7 million fewer than the 2020 total – which makes no sense given the highly charged atmosphere around this election – unless something depressed turnout.
If it happened this way and Musk was helping to pull the strings, it helps to explain why Trump is so palsy-walsy with Musk and has been for weeks now.
Is this what happened? I’m having a lot of trouble making any sense out of this just-finished election, but the above explanation makes sense to me. Time will tell (I hope).
You will hear a dizzying number of explanations about what happened in the coming weeks. Easily a third are garbage, a third are disinformation themselves, and the remaining third will be incomplete. Even the exit polls may not be reliable this cycle. Until MUCH more dust settles, our efforts are best served helping prepare any vulnerable people in our immediate and expanding outwards circles for what could come as early as 1-21
“What happened” is far too many voters thought an emotionally damaged, silver-spooned, sociopathic game show host with 34 felony convictions, and a fondness for fascism, ought to run and make decisions for our country. And that, a seasoned career government official with judicial and legislative experience and a middle class upbringing should not – especially given she’s a woman.
Pretty simple really.
There aren’t that many opportunities to push back in and around LA but it’s exactly the kind of inspiration we all need.
Thanks for this.
For us in California, it’s possibly better defined as nudging further. What’s your local K-12 districts doing about Thanksgiving curriculum? How did your local measures that direct funds to marginalized communities do? Remember that we had the chance to ban involuntary near-servitude by proposition and failed to do so. While bringing back a form of the archaic 3 Strikes Law.
I dunno about that. This infuriating article alone seems to give plenty of permission for a well-coordinated pressure campaign on Mayor Bass’s office and the city council:
https://laist.com/news/housing-homelessness/new-analysis-by-la-city-controller-says-at-least-513m-meant-to-help-the-homeless-went-unspent
Rather than stare at the ocean, I’d prefer a trash talk post. The Paul v. Tyson fight was definitive proof that the world is a farce. Let’s have some fun.
I had the fight on but Netflix crashed and I went to bed. I got up and watched the Serrano/Taylor fight and it was clear to me that Serrano won; yet it was a unanimous decision for Taylor?
I loved the sweet science and never have watched a UFC match, but based on what I saw boxing has not changed one bit as that judging was absolute crap IMHO.
Boxing is one thing but WWE? I am not long for Netflix, but on the “bright side” I did finish The Penguin that has been running on MAX. Dark, Dark, Dark but so well done.
California is like a microcosmic version of the country, as many have noted: blue urban centers, lots of red in the middle of the state, not to mention the secessionists in the northeastern part. I’m old enough to remember California as a Republican bastion that brought us Nixon, Reagan, and battles over retrograde ballot initiatives. As a kid in a remote suburb of LA, going door to door for Democrats in the JFK/Johnson era, we discovered we had better take our efforts to another neighborhood; we were reminding too many (racist) Democrats to run up the Nixon vote. There’s no guarantee it will remain a blue state long term. We’ve got to keep organizing, and spreading the word, and combating disinformation.
Slightly off-topic but it does involve pushing back and ties into the recent flurry of shit show cabinet picks.
1987 – Arnold Schwarzenegger and Richard Dawson – Running Man:
(Richard Dawson as Killian wanting the Schwarzenegger Ben Richards character on the show) “Hello, this is Killian. Give me the Justice Department, Entertainment Division.”
It begs the question – isn’t the Department of Justice under the Attorney General, not the Secretary of Defense? So will we get an Entertainment Division under SecDef Faux Hegseth?
Only being slightly facetious here, but the small pushbacks of getting MAGAt rubes to understand that ‘owning the libs’ with petty BS or of watching neighbors/coworkers provoke (as Annie Oakley noted above) through spite or just dumbass ignorance is not acceptable is a great start. We need to keep pushing back. Or we may well end up with a ‘Running Man’ type ‘show’ – likely involving this mass deportation operation wet dream.
Knowledge cures ignorance.
But they must listen first, and getting through to most of these folk is difficult to say the least. When we realize that their news sphere is Social Media, Faux, OAN etc. and they quote Breitbart, Alex Jones, Mike Huckabee and Loomer as straight news we know what we are up against.
Killian: “This is television, that’s all it is. It has nothing to do with people, it’s to do with ratings! For fifty years, we’ve told them what to eat, what to drink, what to wear… for Christ’s sake, Ben, don’t you understand? Americans love television. They wean their kids on it. Listen. They love game shows, they love wrestling, they love sports and violence. So what do we do? We give ’em *what they want*! We’re number one, Ben, that’s all that counts, believe me. I’ve been in the business for thirty years.”
Except for tying SM into that Running Man nailed it in ’87.
KEEP. PUSHING. BACK.
“It can be done. I wish it wasn’t necessary, but last week’s election made it clear that the good troublemaking must go on.
It can be done. It can be done. It can be done. Lather, rinse, repeat.”
Thank you Peterr.
‘Knowledge cures ignorance”
Does it? My high school cohort (FE-1981) has done quite well and of the 10 of us on a text chain only 2 voted for Kamala, the 2 recovering Southern Baptists. What is clear to me is that education is not the problem; it is indoctrination by your parents and then stove piping into a single source for news.
Acquiring knowledge requires intelligence and curiosity.
Trump loves the poorly educated.
Proving that, contrary to the cliche, like attracts like.
I just learned that the $60 Trump bible omits constitutional amendments 11-27.
https://abovethelaw.com/2024/05/trump-bible-constitution/
“This, of course, allows Trump’s most loyal fans the luxury of not dwelling on the end of slavery, equal protection, a couple voting rights amendments, or the income tax. Limiting Trump to two possible terms as president gets overlooked as well.”
Fits with their wanting to roll society and the law back about 150 years, when men were men, sheep were afraid, and women were property.
There’s also a bit of the ABC Murders going on. When you elide over half the amendments to the Constitution, you avoid identifying which ones you most want to ignore. In Trump’s case, it would be the 22nd, with the 16th, 13th, and 19th close behind.
You left off section 4 of the 25th amendment. Nobody removes Trump from office. Nobody.
And nobody puts him a corner, either.
In 2016 I was telling people Trump would take us back to the 1950s.
I was off by a hundred years.
From the article quoted by Matt’s comment above:
As was reported the years ago, it was Ivanka who had handed the bible to Trump. My guess has been ever since that it was (perhaps) a Hebrew bible. Hebrew reads from right to left, and books in Hebrew have their first page where books in Latin or English have their last page. That at least could explain Trump’s confusion.
was your intention to do a little sanewashing?
Not at all, quite the contrary.
@P J (below): Thanks! I had tried to discover the edition back in 2020, but couldn’t from the photos I had found.
It was an RSV edition. You could see that on the spine, in at least one photo.
i’ve just found out about a horrific attempted “honor killing” in Lacey, Washington (located next to the Capitol, Olympia) and am struggling with how to push back on such utterly depraved actions and how badly the school and child protective services let down the teenage girl. the parents disapproved of her boyfriend to the point they tried to kidnap HIM from the high school but were thwarted. they then tried to put their daughter on a plane to Iraq for an arranged marriage to an older man but she ran away to the high school for help. the parents followed and the father started strangling the daughter in full sight of students who ran to her aid. they got him off her and the mother then stepped in and started strangling her daughter (with help from her other daughter!!!). the full details are just godawful.
if there are any readers here in this area, do you know if the young girl is in protective custody?
https://www.theolympian.com/news/local/crime/article294560784.html
Rosalind, I’m South Sound and in Olympia/Lacey frequently.
There’s a November 4th update to the original Oct 26th Olympian article about the Oct 18th events, which adds:
Article has additional information about prior and continuing concerns of the boy’s family; and actions of the school district & high school, police, and Child Protective Services. Nothing about current status of the girl or outcomes of the scheduled Nov 5th court arraignment. I’m sending an email to the reporter asking for an update.
thank you SO much! it’s the brazen nature of the attack – that they felt free to attack their daughter with multiple witnesses and that the sister joined in. my concern is if there are other family members in the area that will try to “finish the job.”
As to your observations and concerns, the last para of this additional background might help clarify issues:
Thank you, Peterr. Terrific column. Somehow you left out “we shall never surrender,” but the point came through.
Attended a Zoom on “Climate and Fascism” on 11/15/24. Here are some resources mentioned there:
Lessons from Around the World: Engaging ‘Pillars of Support’ to Uphold and Expand Democracy
https://horizonsproject.us/lessons-from-around-the-world-engaging-pillars-of-support-to-uphold-and-expand-democracy/
Link #6: Take Action site: We Are Worth Fighting For
https://weareworthfightingfor.org
Zetkin Collective https://thezetkincollective.org/ – studying rightwing political ecologies
May they be of use.
Here is a resource for people who might have the capacity to read through their biases. I heard about this recently on a radio program that interviewed couples who had gotten on opposite sides of issues, based largely on mis/disinformation, and were able to dislodge some of the detritus through an educational approach.
It does require people to read, a possible drawback, but it seemed to save some relationships. Maybe will be a useful resource for family over the upcoming holidays, if people are still trying to have get togethers despite the oppositional views of family members/friends. https://www.readtangle.com
Ann Selzer to retire after 2024 “gold standard” Iowa Polling miss.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/17/media/iowa-pollster-ann-selzer-retire-trump-harris/index.html
While not a local, grassroots effort, I’ve been focusing to get friends off X and also working to get them off FB as well. So far: over 100 friends switched to Bluesky.
The Revenge Tour Begins:
Trump Wants Iowa Pollster Investigated After She Predicted a Harris Win
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-wants-iowa-pollster-ann-selzer-investigated-after-she-predicted-a-harris-win/
JFC, Trump really must have a tiny male unit as is rumored.
This fucking guy Ryan Walters. “You non-Christians are free to let me coerce you by forcing you to watch me pray for Trump.”
https://ffrf.org/news/releases/civil-liberties-organizations-unite-to-oppose-oklahoma-education-superintendent-ryan-walters-latest-push-for-religion-in-public-schools/
We non-Christians have other choices. Apologies if you’ve already heard of them; check them out if you haven’t.
The humanist society: https://humanists.uk/
The Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster: https://www.spaghettimonster.org/
The Satanic Temple: https://thesatanictemple.com/
oops, editing time ran out before I found the American Humanist Association link:
https://americanhumanist.org/
Bucks County commissioner getting shit on by MAGA.
https://www.inquirer.com/politics/election/bucks-county-commissioner-diane-ellis-marseglia-20241118.html
I just watched Bucks county commissioner meeting and the MAGA deplorables public comments were completely out of control. I feel so sorry for her.