Jack Smith Takes Up the Aid and Abet Theory Endorsed by Judge Amit Mehta in 2022

Back in February 2022, 32 months ago, think I was the only one who made much of Judge Amit Mehta’s ruling that Trump might plausibly be on the hook for abetting the assaults of cops at the Capitol on January 6.

Halberstam v. Welch remains the high-water mark of the D.C. Circuit’s explanation of aiding-and-abetting liability. The court there articulated two particular principles pertinent to this case. It observed that “the fact of encouragement was enough to create joint liability” under an aiding-and-abetting theory, but “[m]ere presence . . . would not be sufficient.” 705 F.2d at 481. It also said that “[s]uggestive words may also be enough to create joint liability when they plant the seeds of action and are spoken by a person in an apparent position of authority.” Id. at 481–82. A “position of authority” gives a “suggestion extra weight.” Id. at 482.

Applying those principles here, Plaintiffs have plausibly pleaded a common law claim of assault based on an aiding-and-abetting theory of liability. A focus just on the January 6 Rally Speech—without discounting Plaintiffs’ other allegations—gets Plaintiffs there at this stage. President Trump’s January 6 Speech is alleged to have included “suggestive words” that “plant[ed] the seeds of action” and were “spoken by a person in an apparent position of authority.” He was not “merely present.” Additionally, Plaintiffs have plausibly established that had the President not urged rally-goers to march to the Capitol, an assault on the Capitol building would not have occurred, at least not on the scale that it did. That is enough to make out a theory of aiding-and-abetting liability at the pleadings stage.

I noted at the time that Judge Mehta — whose ruling on Trump’s susceptibility to lawsuit for actions taken as a candidate would largely be adopted in the DC Circuit’s opinion on the topic — was presiding over a number of the key assault cases where the since-convicted defendants described being called to DC or ordered to march to the Capitol by Trump before they started beating the shit out of some cops.

He also presided over the Oath Keeper cases.

That’s interesting background to Jack Smith’s response to Trump’s supplement to his motion to dismiss his indictment.

As I expected, Smith noted that Trump’s frivolous supplement didn’t even mention the language in the superseding indictment alleging that Trump willfully created false evidence.

Beyond that critical flaw, the defendant’s supplement ignores entirely that the superseding indictment includes allegations that involve the creation of false evidence. As construed by Fischer, Section 1512(c)(1) covers impairment of records, documents, or objects by altering, destroying, mutilating, or concealing them, and Section 1512(c)(2) covers the impairment (or attempted impairment) of records, documents, and objects by other means—such as by “creating false evidence.” 144 S. Ct. at 2185-86 (citing United States v. Reich, 479 F.3d 179 (2d Cir. 2007) (Sotomayor, J.)). In Reich, for example, the defendant was convicted under Section 1512(c)(2) after he forged a court order and sent it to an opposing party intending to cause (and in fact causing) that party to withdraw a mandamus petition then pending before an appellate court. 479 F.3d at 183, 185-87. Just as the defendant in Reich violated Section 1512(c)(2) by “inject[ing] a false order into ongoing litigation to which he was a party,” id. at 186, the superseding indictment alleges that the defendant and his co-conspirators created fraudulent electoral certificates that they intended to introduce into the congressional proceeding on January 6 to certify the results of the 2020 presidential election. See ECF No. 226 at ¶¶ 50-66.

That’s the primary reason I didn’t even treat Trump’s filing with much attention: it ignored how differently situated Trump is than the Fischer defendants.

But I’m most interested in the way Smith rebuts Trump’s argument that he bears no responsibility for the riots at the Capitol. He adopts that same aid and abet theory that Judge Mehta endorsed back in 2022.

Contrary to the defendant’s claim (ECF No. 255 at 7) that he bears no factual or legal responsibility for the “events on January 6,” the superseding indictment plainly alleges that the defendant willfully caused his supporters to obstruct and attempt to obstruct the proceeding by summoning them to Washington, D.C., and then directing them to march to the Capitol to pressure the Vice President and legislators to reject the legitimate certificates and instead rely on the fraudulent electoral certificates. See, e.g., ECF No. 226 at ¶¶ 68, 79, 82, 86-87, 94. Under 18 U.S.C. § 2(b), a defendant is criminally liable when he “willfully causes an act to be done which if directly performed by him or another would be” a federal offense. See, e.g., United States v. Hsia, 176 F.3d 517, 522 (D.C. Cir. 1999) (upholding a conviction for willfully causing a violation of 18 U.S.C. § 1001). [my emphasis]

Smith then repeats that language of “willfully caus[ing]” people to storm the Capitol.

As described above, the superseding indictment alleges that the defendant willfully caused others to violate Section 1512(c)(2) when he “repeated false claims of election fraud, gave false hope that the Vice President might change the election outcome, and directed the crowd in front of him to go to the Capitol as a means to obstruct the certification,” ECF No. 226 at ¶ 86, by pressuring the Vice President and legislators to accept the fraudulent certificates for certain states in lieu of those states’ legitimate certificates. Those allegations link the defendant’s actions on January 6 directly to his efforts to corruptly obstruct the certification proceeding and establish the elements of a violation of Section 1512(c)(2), which suffices to resolve the defendant’s motion to dismiss on statutory grounds. [my emphasis]

Note that this reliance on an abetting theory of liability for the riot explains DOJ’s effort to sustain some select 1512(c)(2) charges against crime scene defendants. Smith will want to closely tie Trump to the actions of key crime scene defendants.

But that depends on sustaining at least some of those key cases. But they’ve already taken at least some steps to do that. In at least one case, cooperating Oath Keeper Jon Schaffer, they’ve done an addendum to the statement of facts to sustain the plea under Fischer.

Perhaps relatedly, the nature of Schaffer’s cooperation remains redacted in the government sentencing memo asking for probation for Schaffer.

For over a year, Trump’s team has been trying to disavow his mob, and for almost a year, prosecutors have promised to show how Trump obstructed the vote certification through the actions of specific rioters.

At trial, the Government will prove these allegations with evidence that the defendant’s supporters took obstructive actions at the Capitol at the defendant’s direction and on his behalf. This evidence will include video evidence demonstrating that on the morning of January 6, the defendant encouraged the crowd to go to the Capitol throughout his speech, giving the earliest such instruction roughly 15 minutes into his remarks; testimony, video, photographic, and geolocation evidence establishing that many of the defendant’s supporters responded to his direction and moved from his speech at the Ellipse to the Capitol; and testimony, video, and photographic evidence that specific individuals who were at the Ellipse when the defendant exhorted them to “fight” at the Capitol then violently attacked law enforcement and breached the Capitol.

The indictment also alleges, and the Government will prove at trial, that the defendant used the angry crowd at the Capitol as a tool in his pressure campaign on the Vice President and to obstruct the congressional certification. Through testimony and video evidence, the Government will establish that rioters were singularly focused on entering the Capitol building, and once inside sought out where lawmakers were conducting the certification proceeding and where the electoral votes were being counted. And in particular, the Government will establish through testimony and video evidence that after the defendant repeatedly and publicly pressured and attacked the Vice President, the rioting crowd at the Capitol turned their anger toward the Vice President when they learned he would not halt the certification, asking where the Vice President was and chanting that they would hang him. [my emphasis]

As I’ve said, I think Jack Smith may believe he has the evidence to prove Trump more actively incited violence, but was prevented from indicting that before the election. But for now, Smith is making it explicit that he is adopting the theory of liability that Judge Mehta ruled was at least plausible, years ago.

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  1. Ben Soares says:

    I think its an open and shut case – the goal of the point folks, that broke the barrier first.
    Was the real electoral ballets.

  2. Frank Anon says:

    Part of me wonders if Smith is creating a tangible record for posterity in the event of a Trump victory. And Trump better win for his own good, because the case Smith was given time to create is pretty remarkable

  3. Xboxershorts says:

    If TFG’s inflammatory speech falls under “Aiding and Abetting”, then what of the other speakers on Jan 5th and 6th who’s speeches were also quite inflammatory?
    Should/could they also have charges brought for asserting false evidence and then invoking a fight or die scenario that is clearly intended to create a a high degree of anger directed at the DC Government, or is TFG’s liability tied directly to his request (order) to march on the capitol?

    • harpie says:

      My take: From Mehta’s Jan. 2022 ruling [Marcy’s first quoted section above]:

      Halberstam v. Welch remains the high-water mark of the D.C. Circuit’s explanation of aiding-and-abetting liability. The court there articulated two particular principles pertinent to this case.

      The first is “encouragement” [not mere presence] and the second is that:

      “[s]uggestive words may also be enough to create joint liability when they plant the seeds of action and are spoken by a person in an apparent position of authority.” [] A “position of authority” gives a “suggestion extra weight.” Id. at 482.

      TRUMP, as President was in a “position of apparent authority” The others were not.

      • Xboxershorts says:

        I think Trump’s personal lawyer might carry some authority. I think congress critters would carry some authority. I think Mike Flynn’s position as a retired Intel officer would carry some authority.

        But I get it, governmental authority.

        Maybe some of the congress critters who were stirring up the crowd, maybe?

        • Rwood0808 says:

          “Maybe some of the congress critters who were stirring up the crowd, maybe?”

          Maybe start with the weakest link. What’s Madison Cawthorn up to these days?

      • Fraud Guy says:

        They may not have been in the same position of authority as Trump, but were in a conspiracy with him to achieve the same goals, and so can be charged under that, IIRC.

        • Rayne says:

          Trump was the head of his party’s ticket. He had authority as such.

          Trump was also president and commander-in-chief; his chances at helming the GOP’s ticket were always best because of his existing role as president.

          Perps who violently acted to obstruct Congress’s proceedings in an attempt to toss the certified ballots and replace them with fraudulent ballots also felt ordered or compelled to take action because of Trump’s authority with them as individuals and as members of one or more groups. His then-existing role as president was a partial factor in the authority they perceived him to have; they intended the candidate to continue to possess that role, legally or otherwise.

    • SteveBev says:

      Eastman and Giuliani are unindicted co-conspirators.

      FWIW I don’t think civil law conceptions of vicarious liability via civil aiding and abetting are at all useful in elaborating theories of criminal liability which has its own separate legal statutory basis cf tort law.

      • Ewan Woodsend says:

        Thank you SteveBev for these informed comments. It is great that you are taking the mantle of refocusing the debates on more solid legal grounds. That role was left unfilled for some time and it was showing.

        • SteveBev says:

          Thank you for your kind words.
          1 As a British person I am but an enthusiastic amateur on US legal matters, groping to expand my understanding.
          2 As such I very much appreciate the opportunity to collaborate to pick apart the nuances, which this space and this community affords each of us in these rather fraught sometimes overwhelming times.

    • Error Prone says:

      Practically, you are on the stage in front of the attendees. That is a circumstance from which a jury might infer “a position of authority.”

      A warm up act for the main concert sort of thing. You have the authority to speak to the crowd. You are authorized to tell them things, and because of that you are an authority at the event. And then, responsibility for what you say. Not responsibility for what Trump said. It is independent responsibility.

  4. Savage Librarian says:

    Fee, Fum, Foe, Fie

    More than an apple of my eye:
    All the MAGAs baked in a pie,
    standing back & standing by,
    answered my calling and let it fly.

    If I told them “do or die”,
    they’d not ask once or reason why,
    I set their vengeance so damn high,
    they let loose their battle cry.

    I just had to give them my
    Fee, fum, foe, fie,
    together with Trump’s Big Lie,
    ‘cause MAGA mobsters are not shy.

    Back made a stand & so did by,
    I hardly even had to try,
    because I’m just that kind of guy,
    Fee, fum, foe, fie.

  5. SteveBev says:

    This is a slightly technical argument I am about to embark upon but I think it is an interesting and important one to tease out significant nuances.

    The aiding and abetting provisions 18 U.S. Code § 2 – Principals https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2
    States
    “(a) Whoever commits an offense against the United States or aids, abets, counsels, commands, induces or procures its commission, is punishable as a principal.

    (b) Whoever willfully causes an act to be done which if directly performed by him or another would be an offense against the United States, is punishable as a principal”

    (a) is a statutory restatement of the traditional common law position in criminal law (and informs the civil law principles of vicarious liability of joint tort feasts for intentional torts committed by one encouraged etc by the other)

    (b) is something different.

    The note to 18 USC 2 states the history of the provision and illuminates the point

    Re (a) “Based on title 18, U.S.C., 1940 ed., § 550 (Mar. 4, 1909, ch. 321, § 332, 35 Stat. 1152).
    Section 2(a) comprises section 550 of title 18, U.S.C., 1940 ed., without change except in minor matters of phraseology.”

    Ie a history of restating the common law.

    But (b)
    1. “ Section 2(b) is added to permit the deletion from many sections throughout the revision of such phrases as “causes or procures”.

    Ie allowed the removal of verbiage from the definitional elements of various crimes, by inserting this provision relating to accessories and principals;

    2. “The section as revised makes clear the legislative intent to punish as a principal
    not only
    •one who directly commits an offense• and
    •one who “aids, abets, counsels, commands, induces or procures”
    another to commit an offense •
    but also
    anyone who causes the doing of an act which if done by him directly would render him guilty of an offense against the United States.

    It removes all doubt that
    one who puts in motion or assists in the illegal enterprise but causes
    • commission of an indispensable element of the offense•
    by an ••innocent agent or instrumentality••
    is guilty as a principal even though he intentionally refrained from the direct act constituting the completed offense.” [additional line breaks and emphasis added]

    So proof that the agents or instrumentalities were indeed guilty of crimes is unnecessary ie there is no necessity to prove the mental state of the tools.

    It is sufficient to prove the defendant wilfully caused the tools to do acts, which if he had done himself would constitute an element of the crime with which he is charged.

    • emptywheel says:

      I’m just starting Judge Chutkan’s discovery opinion but I think she may say something similar — and of course she has presumably reviewed a good deal of Jack Smith’s evidence.

      • Konny_2022 says:

        Chutkan is wasting no time:

        For the reasons set forth below and in a Classified Supplement that will be distributed to the parties, the court will GRANT in part and DENY in part Defendant’s motions, and require Defendant to file any further motions to compel immunity-related discovery by October 30, 2024.

        Why do I think Defendant will file a motion for extension of this date as soon as Government has done what Chutkan requires them to do by October 26, 2024?

      • SteveBev says:

        I think convictions of some of the crime scene obstructionist(s) though not strictly necessary, but is helpful on the conviction of Trump (particularly on the substantive charge of obstruction but also on the conspiracy count ) in showing that “causation” is not weak or attenuated or implausible.

        The caselaw indicates that the consequence of an attenuated chain of causation may be that it is more difficult to establish “wilfully” to the jury’s satisfaction

        The case cited by Smith outlines this. I quote a few paragraphs because it is easier to see the mens rea issue

        United States v. Hsia, 176 F.3d 517 (D.C. Cir. 1999)

        https://casetext.com/case/us-v-hsia-10

        “Counts Two through Six charge that Hsia, by means of her conduit contribution schemes, willfully caused certain recipients of such contributions-Clinton/Gore `96, the Democratic National Committee, and The Friends of Patrick J. Kennedy `96 — to make false statements to the FEC in violation of 18 U.S.C. §§ 2 and 1001
        Counts Two through Six are based on 18 U.S.C. §§ 2(b), 1001(a):

        Whoever willfully causes an act to be done which if directly performed by him or another would be an offense against the United States, is punishable as a principal.
        18 U.S.C. § 2(b).

        [W]hoever, in any matter within the jurisdiction of the executive, legislative, or judicial branch of the Government of the United States, knowingly and willfully — . . .
        (2) makes any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or representation . . .
        shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both

        Believing that the charges here required an unconventional and extreme interpretation of §§ 2(b) and 1001, the [trial] court found that Hsia could not have known that her conduct would fall within their grasp.

        Although we find no material novelty in the government’s reading of the statutes (see below), our decision on whether the element of willfulness is adequately alleged does not turn on this point. We believe that the government need not prove that Hsia knew her acts to be unlawful; the question whether she could in fact have had such knowledge is therefore irrelevant

        The natural reading of §§ 2(b) and 1001 is this: the government may show mens rea simply by proof (1) that the defendant knew that the statements to be made were false (the mens rea for the underlying offense — s 1001) and (2) that the defendant intentionally caused such statements to be made by another (the additional mens rea for § 2(b))

        Section 2(b) does not, of course, limit by its terms the particular means by which the defendant may “cause” another to commit the act, nor the degree of permissible “attenuation” between these two people’s actions. Cf., e.g., United States v. West Indies Transp., Inc., 127 F.3d 299, 307 (3d Cir. 1997) (defendant may be prosecuted under §§ 2(b) and 1001 even if people who actually made false statements are not criminally liable). The mens rea element of the statute [ie 18 USC 2(b) ] provides an outer limit on the latter, for a weak or implausible causal link would make it more difficult to prove that the defendant brought the effect about “willfully.””

        So with evidence that the crime scene actors knew the significance of the proceedings and intended to obstruct them, the stronger the causal link, and consequently the greater the difficulties for jurors to find reasonable doubt on the issue of the Defendant’s intent.

        Evidence that it was widely known that it was contended that alternative certificates existed and contended that they should play a part in the proceedings, is evidence which also bolsters the prosecution case on these issues.

        • emptywheel says:

          I say it’s important to have crime scene people convicted not for a mens rea issue (though if Smith thinks he can charge incitement then mens rea for aid and abet will be easy), but because there’s a instrumentality at issue.

        • SteveBev says:

          Not sure I follow.

          The instrumentality is established by

          1 evidence of a chain of causation ie a chain of foreseeable consequences

          2 Trump (and or coconspirators) performed certain acts

          3 What followed were acts done by others which acts were foreseeable consequences of Trump’s acts

          4 And the consequences of the acts done by others were foreseeable results

          5 Which acts with such results, if they had been performed by Trump (or another on his behalf) would constitute an element of the offence of obstruction for the purpose of the substantive offence

          6 For the offence of conspiracy, it is not necessary to prove the substantive offence was completed; but the following is sufficient:

          a) proof of the agreement to achieve the objective
          viz obstruction

          b) proof of steps (overt acts) taken in furtherance of the agreement, here
          causing others to take steps, which
          if they had been taken by Trump (and or Co conspirators),
          would be additional steps
          in furtherance of the objective of the conspiracy viz obstruction

          The mental element is (substantive offence)

          1 corruptly obstruct
          2 wilfully causing others to perform acts which obstruct

          The mental element is (conspiracy)

          1 agree with others to •corruptly• obstruct

          2 take overt steps •intending•
          to cause others to take steps, which
          if they had been taken by Trump (and or Co conspirators),
          would be additional steps in furtherance of the conspiracy to obstruct

  6. vigetnovus says:

    This is all well and good, and I agree that Smith has some serious evidence to implicate Trump in aid and abet if not outright insurrection BUT….

    …what does it all matter if this isn’t public prior to the election? I’m getting increasingly nervous about the polls…there is some online disinfo campaign reaching possible swing voters causing them to favor Trump. What it is, I don’t know.

    I realize that that’s not necessarily the point of Smith’s prosecution, however if the evidence points to a more direct culpability by Trump, it needs to come out. And if Trump wins, it won’t.

    • CaptainCondorcet says:

      I would argue one of the only reasons Smith has had the success he has had is because there is nothing political in any of his actions, and if Dr. Wheeler is correct he has even operated more conservatively than he would be allowed to do out of the abundance of caution.

      If these unicorn swing voters are willing to ignore a long, long, long list of publicly available information that seemingly grows by the day, one more piece is not worth politicizing this process. The very fact that a grand jury indicted and multiple judges have found no reason to dismiss (and the one who did is almost certainly going to be smacked down for it) is public evidence enough. To repeat, these voters you are concerned about are aware he has been arrested and is on trial for multiple federal charges after a state conviction on entirely separate charges. I believe we have reached the point where past information is now useless. Trump’s impromptu singalong is a more fruitful line of attack than anything Smith could legally bring up now or in the near future.

    • ToldainDarkwater says:

      What’s more likely is that the public polls are not good enough to track a race as close as this one. They have small samples and a turnout model that they weight those small samples by. The “turnout model” is kind of a SWAG (Scientific Wild-Assed Guess). We are in uncharted waters. Does anybody have a really good sense of who is going to show up at the polls?

      So I’m trying to keep my head in the game, and not put too much attention on polls.

  7. HonestyPolicyCraig says:

    Hmmm, Trump has an army of assholes that do violence for him. Why don’t we just delay until he recruits more assholes to do more violence for him? Is this what our society of Harvard, Yale, Princeton and our wonderful Wall St, and social engineers, and brilliant corporations with fantastic profit margins of this great country, is this what “us” is actually going to do? We are allowing him to create a following of violent creeps that seek to deport human beings, to pull them from their homes.

    What exactly is our legal system waiting for? He should be in hand cuffs and in jail. Make a martyr out of him. Please.

    Him on stage with Kristy Noem was operatic. It was like a blend of infomercial, lunacy, and dirty old man with a beautiful woman, and vomit.

    • earlofhuntingdon says:

      Unless you happen to know a couple of unemployed pre-cogs looking for work, the “legal system” you deride is waiting for Trump to commit a crime it can prove in court.

      The legal system is not a silver bullet that can fix the societal and political issues you’re concerned about. Otoh, voting for Kamala Harris would be a good start.

      • Memory hole says:

        I agree that voting in Harris is essential. And that the court system isn’t the answer to a political problem.

        But as to waiting for Trump to commit a crime that can be proven in court, I would be willing to bet there are at least two such federal cases that have been out there for a long time. The problem is more the multi-tiered justice system, and corrupt judges within the legal system.
        Those who don’t believe in the rule of law use the law to corrode it from within.

    • Rayne says:

      This: “Trump has an army of assholes that do violence for him. Why don’t we just delay until he recruits more assholes to do more violence for him?” the US has already seen. If you’ve paid any attention at all and read the more than 725 posts at this site related to the January 6 insurrection, you should already know what the challenges have been for the Department of Justice to prosecute “the army of assholes” and the man who encouraged them.

      Seriously, stop with this whining. Either add something new in the way of questions or add something new to the research about the prosecution, or stay out of the way.

      ADDER — 5:50 AM 17-OCT-2024 —

      You’re concern trolling and derailing discussion. When you start participating in discussion by adding substantively rather than trying to sow dissession in threads, your comments will clear moderation.

      Attn. Community Members —
      don’t reply to this, please. Stay focused on the topic of this post in this thread. Thank you.

    • P J Evans says:

      Did you not get civics and government in school? Because you should know how the justice system ii supposed to work.

  8. HonestyPolicyCraig says:

    At this point, does our country allow an individual to create a militia within the bounds of the law? Can men and women begin to recruit more like minded souls in to larger groups to threaten violence? Do we have the freedom of speech to do so?

  9. harpie says:

    Today’s TRUMP Whine:
    https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.258149/gov.uscourts.dcd.258149.264.0_2.pdf

    https://bsky.app/profile/andrewtorrez.bsky.social/post/3l6plwgomav25
    October 17, 2024 at 9:50 AM

    […] 4/ Judge Chutkan said Trump’s “concern with the political consequences of these proceedings” is not legal prejudice (it isn’t) & at Trump’s request stayed her order authorizing the release of the Appendix with Smith’s proposed redactions for 7 days (today).

    5/ So at the 11th hour, Trump decided his “litigation option” was not to seek relief from the DC Circuit (where he’d lose) but instead to ask Judge Chutkan to PLEASE keep the Appendix under wraps until after the election because otherwise it could have adverse political consequences for him. […]

    • harpie says:

      [pdf4/7] [Cites TRUMP v US] If, as here, a prosecutor, during a highly contested political campaign, is granted leave to submit enormous filings publicly examining a President’s decision-making while in office, future Presidents will be far more reluctant to take the “bold and unhesitating action” required of them. […]

    • harpie says:

      The end of that Andrew Torrez THREAD:

      7/ This document is not law. The bulk of its “citations” are to op-ed pieces by people like Jack Goldsmith & Elie Honig.

      Judge Chutkan has been impossibly patient with Trump’s bad-faith litigation tactics, but stay her order expires today if she does nothing. Wouldn’t surprise me if she lets it.

      I guess we’ll know in fewer than 8 hours.

    • gruntfuttock says:

      ‘President Donald J. Trump respectfully requests’

      As I believe you Americans say: Bwahahahahah!

      Heh ;-)

  10. earlofhuntingdon says:

    As expected, Judge Chutkan isn’t having what Trump’s lawyers are selling. Noted by Brandi Buchman at HP:

    There is undoubtedly a public interest in courts not inserting themselves into elections, or appearing to do so….But litigation’s incidental effects on politics are not the same as a court’s intentional interference with them. As a result, it is in fact Defendant’s requested relief that risks undermining that public interest: If the court withheld information that the public otherwise had a right to access solely because of the potential political consequences of releasing it, that withholding could itself constitute—or appear to be—election interference. The court will therefore continue to keep political considerations out of its decision-making….

    In a separate order on October 18, 2024, the court will lift the stay and direct the Clerk of the Court to docket the Appendix, with the Government’s proposed redactions.

    https://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/athena/files/2024/10/18/6711a55ce4b0b6831a127173.pdf

    [Apologies: Huffingtonpost should have provided a direct link to the docketed order, if available, rather than embedding it in their article.]

    • harpie says:

      So, TRUMP was having his RABBLE ROUSING taped for posterity, and:

      Q: And you were telling him the speech was cut off at the end. Do you know why it was cut off?

      A: Because it jumped to what was happening down at the Capitol.

      Q: So when the President came back in this moment – – this is timestamped 1:21 PM – – you were telling him that his speech was cut off and the recording because the coverage jumped to what was happening at the Capitol. Is that right?

      A: Yes, sir. […]

      [pdf170/723] A: It’s like, they’re rioting down there at the Capitol. And he was, like, Oh, really? And then he was like, All right, let’s go see.

    • harpie says:

      The whole thing is Tweets and ReTweets and some Truth Social posts.
      The last one is a TS post from 3/11/24 telling his readers what he’ll do when he is elected President.

      V2 [pdf246/246] TRUMP 3/11/24 7:55 PM:

      My first acts as your next President will be to Close the Border, DRILL, BABY, DRILL, and Free the January 6 Hostages being wrongfully imprisoned!

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