Elon Musk’s Machine for Political Violence
Last October, I wrote a post called “Elon Musk’s Machine for Fascism,” describing how Twitter had twice served Donald Trump’s electoral ambitions.
In 2016, trolls — including Don Jr — workshopped memes on a DM list and then used their reach to pressure MSM to adopt their narratives. In 2020, trolls — including Trump himself, his two sons, and other key advisors — used the platform to sow intentional disinformation about the election. Only by shutting down Trump’s account after January 6 was he prevented from further sowing violence in advance of Joe Biden’s inauguration.
Since then, Elon Musk has bought the platform and right wingers have successfully pushed to defund any effective civil society checks on the social media platform.
As I reflected last year, Musk’s purchase of Xitter seemed to be an effort to perfect on the 2016 and 2020 models.
By welcoming outright Nazis to the platform, though, he has undermined its ability to reach traditional journalists and normies, which made me hope that some of Xitter’s past utility to fascists might be weakened.
But in the last year, Musk and his far right allies have tested another model. First in Ireland and more recently and systematically in the UK, far right thugs like Tommy Robinson have used Xitter to enflame far right violence masquerading as organic anti-immigrant unrest.
Even before Musk got involved, high profile accounts on Xitter magnified disinformation from other platforms.
Much of the false information about the attack seemed to come from a website called Channel 3 Now, which generates video reports that look like mainstream news channels. But its video and its false claims about the name of the attacker might have stayed relatively obscure if they were not highlighted by larger accounts.
On X, users with considerable followings quickly shared that video and spread it across the site. And on other platforms such as TikTok – where videos can go viral quickly even if the accounts posting them do not have large followings, because of the app’s algorithm – they racked up hundreds of thousands of views. At some point, the false name of the attacker was a trending search on both TikTok and X, meaning that it showed to users who might otherwise have shown no interest in it at all.
But Musk did get involved personally, repeatedly stoking more violence.
Elon Musk just can’t help himself.
The billionaire X owner sparked fury in the British government this weekend after he responded to incendiary footage of the far-right disorder that’s sweeping the country by saying “civil war is inevitable.”
The post on X was roundly condemned by U.K. Prime Minister Keir Starmer’s office, which said there was “no justification” for Musk’s comments.
But Musk doubled, tripled, then quadrupled down after that dig. Responding to a statement from Starmer vowing his government would “not tolerate attacks on mosques or on Muslim communities,” the X boss effectively accused the British prime minister of wearing blinkers. “Shouldn’t you be concerned about attacks on all communities?” Policing of the unrest “does seem one-sided,” he offered in a third post.
He then branded Starmer “#twotierkeir” — riffing on a popular far-right talking point that British police treat disorder by white people differently to that by perpetrated by minorities. Justice Minister Heidi Alexander called Musk “deplorable.”
Musk has complained about British efforts to police content that, in the UK, is illegal.
And things would be worse in the US, because the laws against incitement are far more limited.
Plus, Xitter has twice fought back against legal process, one time on behalf of Donald Trump.
Xitter has also throttled pro-Kamala Harris accounts, even as Musk repeatedly boosts Trump.
Today, in advance of an “interview” with Musk and the roll-out by Trump’s sons of a new crypto currency scam and on the 7th anniversary of the Charlottesville riot, Donald Trump returned to Xitter.
https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-elon-musk-x-twitter-livestream-83d6d07fc0ffef4151c96fc56aeec9ee
Trump has just over 7.5 million followers on Truth Social, while his mostly dormant X account is followed by 88 million.
88 million following a dormant account? Weird.
And his posts are already getting 100K views.
how many are bots or incels
A lot will be bots. Or data mules. Incels are real people.
8 8.
https://www.mediaite.com/online/its-now-impossible-to-search-old-trump-tweets-on-x/
Searchable database not controlled by Elon Musk.
https://www.thetrumparchive.com/
Thanks, Clare Kelly. Look what I found!
The Dow Jones Industrial just closed above 29,000! You are so lucky to have me as your President. With Joe Hiden’ it would crash.
Sep 2nd 2020
Dow closed today at 39,357. Hmm, I wonder if Musk will ask him about that.
I reported both of them on X, and will continue to do so.
Great piece! Very interesting.
My intuition about Musk’s career is that he’s been financed by international billionaires and nation states.
I had a similar feelings about both Robert Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein.
“EU’s Breton says Musk must comply with EU law ahead of Trump interview”
Reuters
August 12, 2024
https://www.reuters.com/world/eus-breton-says-musk-must-comply-with-eu-law-ahead-trump-interview-2024-08-12/
The Truth Social stock today is around $24, which is within a buck and a half of what NASDAQ lists as its 52-week low of $22.50, and it’s been steadily declining since about April. Look to see Trump selling off the company at the first available opportunity in September.
To track the stock, just type “NASDAQ TMTG” into your browser. You can view its performance at different time scales: from 1 day to 6 months, the longer time scale you choose, the bigger the decline in value.
It’s been dropping like a rock since July 15 (when it was $40.58/share). In less than a month, the share value has dropped by $16 (to $24.54), so far…
Far cry from the peak value on March 27 of $66.22/share…wild ride for investors.
(btw can also be tracked at NYSE:DJT)
Fun fact: the high was on March 27th—Tim Pool bought $DJT on March 26, the day before. It’s about 60% down since then.
First available opportunity for TRUMP to sell is 9/19/24.
Maybe Judge Merchan should take account of that in his sentencing deliberations on 9/18/2024
Brad Heath [DC reporter for Reuters on crime, justice and investigations. Data, documents and “convoluted KGB style back-door” stuff. Lawyer, but not yours.]:
https://bsky.app/profile/bradheath.bsky.social/post/3kzjsnx4pwg2i
Aug 12, 2024 at 11:29 AM
He’s having a sale to help Americans beat Bidenflation! What a guy!
This site tracks Biden vs. Trump metrics.
https://www.factsarefirst.com/comparison/joe-biden/donald-trump
The Saudis would love DJT back too. Interesting confluence of interests.
LMAO when the press call JD Vance aggressive. He seems more like Short Round, reaching for the presidential pedals with wooden blocks on the bottom of his shoes.
His schtick is canned Trumpian fodder, and he tries too hard to be gentlemanly, presumably another suit of clothes he puts on over whatever’s underneath them. Walz, on the other hand, seems bright, sincere, whole, energetic, no nonsense call-it-what-it-is. The opposite of Vance.
The best characterization of Walz I’ve heard was a woman reporter who said she got “serious dad vibes from him. I fell like he’d kick my tires and check the tread before he’d let me out on the interstate. And he’d put $50 in the glove compartment ‘just in case’”.
For women especially, those that had a great dad and those that wish they did, this will resonate. He has a caretaker vibe; just what the country needs at this moment.
Vance has a predatory streak. Don’t underestimate him.
Feel free to mock him, though I’d prefer you’d stay away from “short man” jokes. Short men didn’t choose their height. Short men still have ambitions, why shouldn’t they?
For what it’s worth, I took the earl’s remark as a comments on Vance’s ability and experience rather than his physical height. Now I’ll have to look at a photo of him with Trump to gauge his height (because we all know TFG is an awesome 6’2” !).
“Vance has a predatory streak”
Yep, and the first time Trump screws up, he’ll get support to invoke the 25th amendment. The people around Donald know he’s gone and hope for win so they can have a “Weekend at Bernie’s” presidency. They’ll kick him to the curb as soon as they can, so they can have unfettered control and establish Gilead in the USA.
All I can say is that I’ll be savoring the schadenfreude if the X platform collapses like it did for the DeSantis campaign launch.
“Donald J. Trump
@realDonald Trump Wow! The DeSanctus TWITTER launch is a DISASTER! His whole campaign will be a
disaster. WATCH!”
4.2k ReTruths
20.2k Likes May 24, 2023 at 7:41 PM
Delicious!
NYT Election live-blog:
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/08/12/us/harris-trump-election/00924ba3-8bb7-51a5-91df-16642dcd7801 Aug. 12, 2024, 1:46 p.m. ET
I live in Los Angeles, Ca. Every time I see the Tesla logo on a car in front of me, I’m astonished that anyone with a good consciousness can support a far right nutcase. The worst of the story is early on he conned the government that he was good person leading to NASA giving him free range in space.
My fear is he will blow something up in space making space travel impossible. The problem with oligarchs is they stifle the natural evolutionary construct of a group of workers or scientists or nations working together to solve an idea. Oligarchs know and are everything, except they don’t!
Unfortunately, we all support far right nutcase business owners with many of our daily/weekly purchases. Most of them have the proper sense to keep their political ideology quiet, so we have no way of knowing just how rotten they are.
He seems to be working tirelessly to achieve the full Kessler: From Solar mems, “The Kessler effect suggests that when the amount of space debris in Low Earth Orbit (LEO) reaches a certain level, it will trigger a cascade effect in which this debris will be constantly colliding and breaking up to multiply the amount of debris, creating a permanent danger for any satellite of spacecraft in orbit.”
I sold mine a year ago. But it was only obvious he had gone completely ’round the bend for less than a year prior to that. It’s the ones that come home in new ones you need to wonder about.
Global Alliance for Responsible Media (GARM) is disbanding, partly in response to a lawsuit filed by Musk accusing them of conspiring to dissuade its members from advertising on X.
This Trump event sounds like a good way to bring the political and commercial needs of Musk together into an event which will prove the site has the eyeballs that advertisers want – regardless of the Nazi’s quaffing in the corners.
I’m pretty sure Xitter is on a death spiral. The problem is, it’s a very slow death spiral. It could take many your until we can proclaim it dead, and it could do lots of damage until then.
I once had a conversation with a person who was a senior developer at twitter. He even directly reported to Musk for a short while before he got sacked as well. He told me Twitter is designed so that it could keep working for a long time automatically, and could keep working for years with minimal maintenance ever after all those layoffs. But technical stagnation, fewer advertisers and users deserting the network would finally make Xitter as relevant as Myspace.
And speaking of advertisers, I wonder what would happen with his antitrust lawsuit against them. It seem to be laughable, but the judge is Reed O’Connor, so he might be into some shenanigans.
Considering the funding sources — a Saudi prince and Qatar’s sovereign fund were +25% of backing, IIRC — the dead bird app can coast a very long time so long as it does exactly what its funders want it to do.
As if a country which sawed up a journalist working for a US news org might not also want to fuck with other US news orgs and journalists. +USD$11 billion might be a bargain to them.
You nailed it! Well said!
Let’s not forget that Larry Ellison and a couple of venture capital firms based in Menlo Park, CA – Andreessen Horowitz and Sequoia Capital – were part of the financing, too. It was foreign and domestic.
Not forgetting the domestic fascists but the news media seems to forget foreign interference in our elections is happening right under our noses AND THEY’RE PLATFORMING IT.
The venture capital companies, a16z in particular, also represent foreign investors. It’s as if news media has forgotten how to read a 10-K statement.
Well that interview Elmo setup with Trump on “X Space” appears to be having problems. It was supposed to start a half hour ago and no one can get a “space”.
I just told someone today that I’m sure they learned their lesson from DeSantis’ botched twitter rollout, and would do a better job this time. It turns out I gave them too much credit. They didn’t.
Tracking Elon Musk’s Political Activities
https://www.techpolicy.press/tracking-elon-musks-political-activities/
Justin Hendrix, Prithvi Iyer / Aug 12, 2024
I’m hardly surprised (since the current media purblindness is widespread) but still disappointed and annoyed that there are people who should know better still denoting Musk in their comments and articles as “a free speech absolutist”, when it’s abundantly clear from his vile comments and partisan censorship on Xh*tter that he’s an ultra-right megaphone artist who doesn’t give a flying fig about that.
Add Elon and that other “free speech absolutist” (initials GG) and their cousins the “contrarians” and “diagonalists” plus a few high-denomination coins will net you a mediocre cup of coffee…
From the Guardian, posted about an hour ago:
Much more at the link, including a Labour MP who has a list of more than two dozen MPs who have left or are in the process of leaving X.
Elon is learning that “freedom of speech” includes the freedom to leave a bad party to find a much more pleasant place to speak.
This will be a great test of disengagement…in 2020 Twitter was the dominant social site for news/connectivity.
It is not that now.
So then how goes FB or Threads.
The Harris campaign has a team of “meme-busters” at FB n Tiktok doing great work.
I have hope the good guys can win the meme wars they lost in ’16 n ’20
They need people at Mastodon, too. A lot of us don’t/won’t use FB, Tiktok, Threats, or BlueSky.
thankfully,Mastodon isn’t full of trolls and bullshit.
From here in the Offshore Islands the parallels with Russia and 2016 are overwhelming.
Musk is undoubtedly breaking our laws, trying to influence our political system and fomenting discord. His statement about the UK approaching civil war, apart from being ridiculous, was designed to foment civil unrest. But what did the US do about controlling a US company, X? Nothing, just as Russia did in 2016.
I have a fantasy, don’t worry I know it is fantastic, of Musk being charged for his UK hate crimes and an extradition request being submitted. A sort of Assange in reverse. Not going to happen but it would be fun. Perhaps we could all agree to send him to the Falklands/ Malvinas.
Chetnolian wrote: “But what did the US do about controlling a US company, X? Nothing, just as Russia did in 2016.”
See:
“The Supreme Court Rules on Social Media First Amendment Cases”
“The Court decided that laws regulating social media platforms required a more comprehensive analysis of the facial challenges under the First Amendment, sending the cases back to the lower courts for further review.”
Julien Berman
Lawfare
July 1, 2024
https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/the-supreme-court-rules-on-social-media-first-amendment-cases
Husk (sic) may be relatively free in the US to spread his lies, disinfo and hate, but he is in increasing danger of overreach on the other side of the Atlantic. Both the UK and EU countries take a dim view of such activities, have laws about it, and though they may be somewhat slow to react, may finally be energised by one provocation too many into doing something significant about it.
In the UK, there are already people being sentenced to jail time for doing what he is doing (and hosting it all besides). He might already be risking his freedom by showing up in person there.
An eventual EU-wide block of Xh*itter isn’t entirely off the cards. Which might be the reputational and financial coup de grâce for the festering site.
A husky comment. Nicknames are as bad as emojis. If you use someone or something’s correct name at least once, your comment will pop up on a search. Otherwise, crickets.
It is his intent to foment civil conflict, not least because he has done it before
As this example shows
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/ 1724050863457517687
There is an article I can’t immediately find which provides evidence of him saying this on multiple occasions in recent years.
This is the article
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13714521/amp/Elon-Musk-stoking-tensions-Britain-Europe-2023-civil-war.html
Also WSJ (paywalled) https://www.wsj.com/business/condemn-the-u-k-sue-advertisers-all-in-a-week-for-elon-musk-c85e9e74#
I thought Airstrip One had arranged a good deal with Rwanda.
Indeed the last lot themselves prompted much of the problem by convincing the less sophisticated that they had found a way to solve the refugee problem, The irony is that the hotels the rioters attacked were occupied by the very people the last lot had failed to process.
The last lot failed to process almost everything, so desperate they were to hang on.
Elon’s the archetypal turtle on a post.
Xitter going the way of MySpace….I went to Glacier for two weeks in July and the lack of communication was bliss. I have not returned to it.
If only there was a group of people with political power in the US who could subpoena/drag before committees/cancel contracts with other Musk enterprises.
Also looking forward to the posts about Roger Stone being the dumbass who got hacked
If it was Stone, then it’s more like he got “hacked.” The dumb one would be the Trump campaign person that ever trusted communicating with Stone.
A “hack” is a great way to share information that would otherwise be illegal to share, that is in violation of a court order, NDA, or classified material.
I suggest community members poke their senators for hearings about regulating social media in relation to privacy and security — not TikTok this time but Meta/Facebook scraping users’ personal photos as part of games in potential violation of the 2022 FTC consent decree, and X’s alleged hacking/DDoS this evening during a campaign event.
Oh, and Microsoft about email spear phishing attacks on campaigns.
I know it’s slightly off topic but I really hope Dr M uses this headline for this story: Rat Fucker Rat Fucked
https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/12/politics/trump-campaign-hack-personal-email-account-fbi/index.html
Musk-Trump on Twitter seems to have gone exactly as planned and everyone is wowed with Musk’s technical skill.
I for one look forward to cashing in my retirement plan and buying all of the Teslas I can now, and setting them to full AI. What could go wrong?
But that’s not all! Under Trump-Musk-Thiel-Vance we will have further innovation through private equity and SPACs and tariffs the likes of which we haven’t seen since Andrew Jackson. Not to mention the self-replicating automata that are going to replace the 20 million deportees. (They will fail – i.e., blow up – by design, leading to even more innovation!) /s
Well that was a trainwreck and a half, a question for the lawyers here with regards to Musk, the boxer that he spread disinformation about is looking to sue, so I just wanna know if she has to do it here in Europe or could she also do it in the states? PS. Sorry if i used the wrong nick I could not remember what I used before :)
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Musk is another angry insecure individual using bully tactics. Musk and Trump are two bullies in a pod.
Verdad.
“United Auto Workers files labor charge over Trump comments on strikes
The United Auto Workers labor union, which is trying to organize workers at Tesla, has filed a federal labor charge over comments Donald Trump made last night in his interview with Elon Musk.”
The Guardian – live
August 13, 2024