Fraudulent Failson Judgement: JD Vance “Ain’t From Here”

As always with DC’s gossip press, they exercise almost none of the scrutiny with Donald Trump that they do with others.

One recent example comes in the treatment of Joe Biden and Trump’s sons’ involvement in campaign decision-making.

There was a whole flood of stories because Hunter Biden was part of his father’s decision on whether to stay in the race, as he has been involved in past such decisions.

Hunter Biden has joined meetings with President Joe Biden and his top aides since his father returned to the White House from Camp David, Maryland, on Monday evening, according to four people familiar with the matter.

The president’s son has also been talking to senior White House staff members, these people said.

While he is regularly at the White House residence and events, it is unusual for Hunter Biden to be in and around meetings his father is having with his team, these people said. They said the president’s aides were struck by his presence during their discussions.

A federal jury in Delaware found Hunter Biden guilty last month on gun-related charges. He remains under indictment accused of tax-related felonies, to which he has pleaded not guilty. Shortly after the jury found him guilty, he returned to his home in California.

One of the people familiar with the matter said Hunter Biden has been closely advising his father since the family gathered over the weekend at Camp David after Thursday’s debate. This person said Hunter Biden has “popped into” a couple of meetings and phone calls the president has had with some of his advisers.

Another person familiar with the matter said the reaction from some senior White House staff members has been, “What the hell is happening?”

The insinuation, of course, is that no convicted felon should be involved in such decisions.

The gossip press exhibited no such qualms that Paul Manafort — whose tax fraud was an order of magnitude greater than what Hunter is accused of, and who was hiding the foreign clients with whom he was sharing campaign strategy — was back advising Trump.

Crazier still, the gossip press seems to have little awareness that since May 30, there’s always a convicted felon involved in strategy meetings involving Trump.

I’m more interested in the double standard regarding the involvement of Trump’s sons in campaign decision-making.

Sure, in the Mueller investigation, Don Jr avoided charges for accepting campaign help from the Agalarovs because Mueller rightly figured the failson could argue he had no idea you shouldn’t do that. But both sons have been implicated in their Daddy’s fraud, first when they misused charity donations to benefit Pops, and then when they fiddled with real estate valuations.

Hunter Biden undoubtedly sold on his father’s influence — though he has not been criminally charged with doing so — but Trump’s sons have been involved in  fraudulent claims about their father so he’d get that influence. They’re just conmen like their Daddy, selling the brand.

And on top of the fact that Don Jr has long been targeted by foreign spies and Neo-Nazis, he’s painfully stupid. As Michael Cohen testified, “Mr. Trump had frequently told me and others that his son Don Jr. had the worst judgment of anyone in the world.”

Yet, in all the reviews (or, in some cases, shameless beat sweeteners) of the sons’ involvement in Trump’s recent decisions, there has been no question about whether their cooperation in Dad’s fraud or their poor judgment should disqualify them from such a role.

That’s particularly true given their decisive role in picking JD Vance. The stories describe how the sons, especially Don Jr, were able to convince their Dad to ignore the counsel of actual political consultants like Kellyanne Conway and instead pick an inexperienced extremist who once called Trump America’s Hitler as his running mate.

With the clock ticking to the Republican National Convention last week, Donald Trump met privately to discuss his running mate search with two of his closest advisers: his sons.

The conversation quickly turned tense when the former president indicated that he was leaning toward Doug Burgum, until recently the largely unknown governor of North Dakota — but someone whose low-maintenance, no-drama personality would never threaten to outshine Trump.

That’s when Donald Trump Jr. and Eric Trump chimed in.

“Don Jr. and Eric went bats— crazy: ‘Why would you do something so stupid? He offers us nothing,’” a longtime Republican operative familiar with the discussion told NBC News.

“They were basically all like ‘JD, JD, JD,’” the operative said.

Trump ratified his sons’ recommendation here Monday, selecting Sen. JD Vance of Ohio as his vice presidential candidate. Trump called Vance with the news 20 minutes before announcing it on social media, a source familiar with the call said.

In choosing Vance, Trump made a different calculation than he did in 2016 and leaned fully into his MAGA base. Back then, he looked to his daughter and her husband — the more establishment-friendly Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner — for strategic advice. This time, his red meat-throwing sons have a more central role. And instead of going with a longtime traditional Republican like Mike Pence, Trump chose the MAGA warrior Vance.

Apparently, Don Jr — he of the poor judgment — was impressed by Hillbilly Elegy, a memoir that treats Trump’s people as deplorables.

The eldest Trump son, who had been a fan of “Hillbilly Elegy” before the campaign, had come to like Vance personally, and the two developed a close friendship after Vance won his Senate race.

And so, in spite of the fact that JD Vance actually underperformed Republicans in his Senate race, Trump was convinced that Peter Thiel’s errand-boy will help him win the Rust Belt.

Thanks to Vice President Harris’ accession to the candidacy, media outlets are stumbling over each other to invite Andy Beshear on to explain how furious he is that Vance monetized calling people from Eastern Kentucky, “lazy.”

I want the American people to know what a Kentuckian is, what they look like, because — let me just tell you — that JD Vance ain’t from here. The nerve that he has to call the people of Kentucky, of Eastern Kentucky, lazy.

Listen, these are the hard-working coal miners that powered the industrial revolution, that created the strongest middle class the world has ever seen, powered us through two World Wars. We should be thanking them, not calling them lazy.

And in his first solo appearance, JD Vance attempted to make a joke about Diet Mountain Dew, which flopped.

Which has led superstars like AOC

… and Mallory McMorrow to make fun of him.

 

There are already reports that, in light of Biden ceding the ticket to Kamala, the campaign may be regretting that decision.

Even the selection of Ohio’s Senator J. D. Vance as Trump’s running mate, campaign officials acknowledged, was something of a luxury meant to run up margins with the base in a blowout rather than persuade swing voters in a nail-biter.

Even in Pennsylvania or Michigan, JD’s extremism, especially on choice, will be a liability. And only a spoiled brat like Don Jr would have missed that Hillbilly Elegy insulted Trump’s deplorables, it didn’t celebrate them.

I suppose I should take solace from the fact that NYT is wasting beat sweeteners pretending that Don Jr is anything but a less effective conman than his Daddy.

By all means let Don Jr steer Daddy into stupid decisions.

It just gives smart girls one more thing to laugh at.

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  1. Just Some Guy says:

    Also yesterday one of the Ohio RepubliKlowns that appeared with Vance had to immediately apologize for his comments:

    https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2024/07/22/ohio-senator-civil-war-save-country-jd-vance-rally/74500707007/

    ‘Republican vice presidential nominee JD Vance’s hometown state senator said at his rally Monday that if Republicans don’t win the 2024 election it could lead to a civil war to “save the country.”

    ‘The comments came from Ohio state Sen. George Lang, R-West Chester, right after he took the stage at Vance’s first solo rally in Middletown and chanted, “Fight! Fight! Fight!”‘

  2. Winslow2 says:

    JD is still in the post-convention honeymoon phase, so it’s especially fun to watch how flat he falls (while cracking himself up). I expect DJT will soon show public signs of rage at his lame Apprentice.

  3. newbroom says:

    The threat of violence has hung over the Russian Party since the announcement of Trump’s candidacy in 2015. It’s all they really have to influence the electorate, and this ‘influence’ is backfiring spectacularly. Co-opting all things American, all things Godly, and all things responsible, this faction depends on bibles, beer, bullets, bombs, and blame. This traitorous party cannot be, eh?

  4. Clare Kelly says:

    Marcy wrote:
    “By all means let Don Jr steer Daddy into stupid decisions.
    It just gives smart girls one more thing to laugh at.”

    When Trump chose JD Vance, prior to Joe Biden stepping aside as the Presidential nominee, I had my first really good chuckle of relief envisioning the VP debate.

    Although there is a lot of work to do, the stark contrast in rhetoric, policy, track records, and wit could not be more evident.

    Thanks.

    • David Brooks says:

      I think the chuckle will still be appropriate whether (a) JD stays with his threat not to debate or (b) debates player-to-be-named-later, whoever that is.

      And if it is renowned hillbilly Andy Beshear…

      • Clare Kelly says:

        I anticipate a full-on guffaw, for both (potential) Presidential and VP debates.

        In battles of wit, one opponent will remain unarmed, and the other may be only half equipped.

        • Ithaqua0 says:

          Vance isn’t stupid, and he’s a decent public speaker. His policy positions might be reprehensible, and that’s putting it lightly – he drifts pretty close to eugenics in Hillbilly Elegy – but he’s not a fool by any means. I don’t think a VP debate would be at all one-sided; after all, tens of millions of people agree with him about the issues. He’s a dangerous person.

  5. Rayne says:

    Why in July 2024, nine years after Trump first announced he was running for POTUS, would the NYT need to write bloody “shameless beat sweeteners” for any member of Team Trump.

    As if the NYT ever failed to give Team Trump access to its pages. As if NYT hadn’t already provided so much irrationally favorable coverage Trump is still a viable candidate and his failsons aren’t yet treated like the unethical, immoral, and stupid gits they are.

    You’d think NYT was doing the marketing copy and scripting for The Apprentice-Re-election Edition.

    • emptywheel says:

      Don’t look now bc Maggie and Swan did a VERYYYYY long piece on how Trump will be an asshole to Kamala in which Maggie erased her own role in those attacks in 2016.

      • Rayne says:

        I saw it — Trump’s New Rival May Bring Out His Harshest Instincts — and couldn’t make myself open it. Welcome to the NYT’s reset launching attacks on Harris, which already include assigning Ken Vogel to cover Democrats’ donations, David Leonhardt on what’s wrong with the Dems, and both Ross Douthat and David French opining on what’s wrong with Dems’ support of Harris.

        Not to forget Shane Goldmacher’s The Promise, and Risks, in Turning to Kamala Harris. He’s turning into the alt-Haberman; if Haberman sucks up to Trump, Goldmacher bashes the opposition.

        • earlofhuntingdon says:

          Yes, the language in that headline was…forgiving. “Harsh” describes a mild rebuke, clothing that rubs you the wrong way, or an acrid smell. “Instincts” is no better. Neither describes Trump’s behavior as well as, say, brutal, vicious, vindictive, racist, or misogynist.

      • Peterr says:

        I’m shocked – shocked, I tell you.

        In other news, the sun rose in the east this morning.

      • harpie says:

        Right now on the electronic front page, this article is titled:

        Donald Trump’s campaign against Kamala Harris may bring out his tendency for personal attacks against female rivals.

        When you click on the link, it is still:

        Trump’s New Rival May Bring Out His Harshest Instincts After years planning to face President Biden, Donald J. Trump and his team will be campaigning against Kamala Harris. He has attacked female rivals and critics in brutal and personal terms.

        I haven’t noticed any changes on the bot.
        There were some complaints in comments.

    • Clare Kelly says:

      While I can’t afford to dwell in schadenfreude-landia for long, I thank you for reviving “stupid gits” before I depart.

    • BobBobCon says:

      One part of the reason is there’s huge institutional inertia in terms of staffing. Times execs decided literally years ago that they would break up the campaign coverage – reporters and editors – between Republicans and Democrats.

      It didn’t have to be that way, of course. They could have decided to create teams focusing on issues, for example. They could have a Team Environment, Team Economy, and so on. But once they created a Team GOP, that team is going to do whatever it can to seek out GOP sources for stories about GOP personalities and churn out whatever GOP talking points emerge.

      What’s made things worse in recent years is that Times execs have started funnelling more and more resources toward the GOP side. When Carolyn Ryan was the top political editor for the 2016 election, she put her thumb on the scale hard against the Clinton campaign, which she signalled by personally negotiating for the rights to run Peter Schweizer’s Clinton Cash nonsense. And it’s gotten even worse under AG Sulzberger’s leadership. Team Democrats still exist, but they’re constantly forced to play catchup.

      The internal standards for getting assignments, for having stories run, and for getting them on the front page has been wrapped up in how deeply sourced a reporter is in the GOP world. Times execs tell themselves that this is not inherently biased, because theoretically this could mean that reporters write negative stories about the GOP. But in reality every reporter and editor knows that management will punish those who make GOP insiders unhappy even when it means good stories that drive readership.

      And whenever negative news about Trump can’t be avoided, the pressure is on reporters and editors to give the GOP first crack at spinning it. In the narrowest sense the Times meets standards of objectivity, but of course in any meaningful sense Sulzberger, Kahn, and Ryan have created institutional conditions that make real reporting impossible.

      • Rayne says:

        Hold that thought. You’re going to want to repeat some of that in a thread in a near-term future post. :-)

        • Trypeded says:

          I look forward to reading more. It was somewhat cathartic last night to watch a very somber Lawrence O’Donnell call them out.

      • Ginevra diBenci says:

        Trump (his candidacy, his presidency, whether the actual past one or potential future one) = $$$ for the Times, the Post, CNN, and all other essentially corporate media.

        Notice the sidelining of reporters who once covered the spread of disinformation and its leakage from the internet into the mainstream. Brian Stelter and his peers have lost their forums because they must convey the truth that the seepage has crept into their own media homes.

        The soft normalization of Trump by the Times did indeed begin nearly a decade ago. Clinton Cash was part and parcel of the Times’ pursuit of Trump clicks and subscriptions, just as the Dump Biden Project (pursued alongside the insistent refusal to call out Trump and his campaign for their truly extreme acts and goals) has been part of a pursuit of the same farcical Trump “horserace.”

        I feel much freer now that I cancelled my Times subscription. You should try it.

    • David Brooks says:

      And of course there’s a world of difference between Jeb’s pathetic “please clap” and Kamala’s “you can clap, hahaha!” (We have to figure out a way to represent the laugh in writing)

  6. Peterr says:

    From the annals of failson political expertise:

    “If it is what you say it is, I love it.”

    • harpie says:

      Yes, and …“especially late in the summer”

      Mr. Schiff. Don Jr. when offered dirt as part of what was described as Russian government effort to help the Trump Campaign said, “if it’s what you say, I love it;” Would you call that an invitation to get Russian help with dirt on Hillary Clinton?

      Mr. Durham. The words speak for themselves, I supposed.

      Mr. Schiff. I think they do. In fact, he said, especially late in summer. Late in summer was around when the Russians started to dump the stolen emails, wasn’t it?

      Mr. Durham. Late in the summer, there was information that was disclosed by WikiLeaks in mid to late July. […]

      From: Call and Response: Putin Demanded Greater Russia and Trump Agreed
      https://www.emptywheel.net/2024/02/12/call-and-response-putin-is-demanding-greater-russia/

      I was prepared to respond with just that ^^^ because it’s now late in the summer,
      but then I read this from yesterday, and !!!:

      World Leaders, With Outlook Uncertain, Praise Biden but Speak Carefully
      Foreign leaders did not wade into the turmoil of U.S. politics. Many opted instead for statements of empathy that lauded the president’s record. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/21/world/europe/biden-election-world-leaders-reaction.html Sarah Maslin Nir, from Berlin
      Published July 21, 2024 Updated July 23, 2024, 7:46 a.m. ET

      […] Mr. Biden’s response elicited a predictably less effusive response from Russia, which has regularly and stridently denounced American military backing for Ukraine in the war.

      The Kremlin’s spokesman Dmitri S. Peskov, said achieving its aims in its war was more important for Russia than the results of American elections. He said that “much could still change” before the vote in November, according to state news agencies.

      “We need to be patient and see what happens next,” Mr. Peskov said.

  7. FL Resister says:

    ‘Smart girls laughing’ is a chef’s kiss for this brilliant, concise piece on the dynamics of the fail-sons’ poor advice and how different the focus between Biden and Trump in The NY Times.

    Marcy’s work reveals how obvious truths are passed over by prominent Fourth Estate institutions in exchange for access coverage and superfluous narratives.

  8. OldTulsaDude says:

    “Gossip Press” is a wonderful description. I suggest an addition: The gossamer gossip press.

    • CantankerousDave says:

      I usually go with “Beltway Heathers” to highlight the high school clique behavior. Always be on the lookout for who holds the scrunchie.

  9. Error Prone says:

    Am I being given a sales pitch for a bang up twelve-cylinder Beshear SUV, reasonably priced?

    If Harris picks him, it is her choice, not mine. I’d prefer Jamie Raskin.

    As to “not from here” I could not tell a hillbilly being one, from looking at one in a finely tailored expensive suit, since my pre-image is affording such an extravagant suit is not usually associated with hillbillies. Yale, Venture Capital Hillbillies, I say show me one, I’ll listen, but if bashing elites to MAGA crowds, and you are elite, handle that task well, as it is hard to pitch when you left San Francisco Venture Capitalist status and connections to be a Senator, and then say, “I share your pain.” While Ayn Randian.

      • Spencer Dawkins says:

        Yes. It’s also not clear that Raskin would bring many undecided voters along (if you know him, as Rayne does, you like him but remember him in Congress with a bandana head covering during cancer treatment, and if you don’t know him, he’s an older white guy from New York).

        • Just Some Guy says:

          Raskin was born in D.C. and represents the fine people of Maryland’s 8th Congressional District.

        • Spencer Dawkins says:

          Sigh. I stand corrected. But I’m not sure it makes a difference to say “an older guy from the east coast”.

      • Peterr says:

        He also is the Ranking Member on the House Oversight Committee, where he has been masterful at making Comer look incredibly foolish. If Dems can retake the House, he’d be in line to chair the committee; if they don’t, he’d still be in place to continue making Comer look incredibly foolish.

        While there are clearly others who could do the job, I’d prefer to let Raskin offer his skills as a powerful figure in the House.

        • CovariantTensor says:

          If Raskin were to give up his seat for another opportunity I don’t think making Comer look incredibly foolish would be a hard job to fill. Moskowirz is more than capable for example.

        • Ironcity says:

          I have a golden retriever that can make Comer look incredibly foolish. That could free up Rep Raskin for higher level duties.

        • Spencer Dawkins says:

          We paid a high price in Senate majority when Obama recruited highly capable senators to serve in his administration. Some were replaced by Republicans, so Obama only had 60 votes after Franken was seated, until Kennedy was too sick to continue.

          We need to keep things like that in mind.

        • Susan D Einbinder says:

          Jamie Raskin is amazing, but he is also Jewish (as am I). I just don’t think the US is ready – yet, perhaps – for someone Jewish — even if Harris’ husband is Jewish.

  10. scroogemcduck says:

    This is a major liability for them – Trump is old, fat and mentally deteriorating. This boy can’t be trusted to be one hamberder from the Presidency.

  11. RitaRita says:

    VP Harris should call Sulzberger of The NY Times and ask to sit with him for an interview. Maybe he’ll assign a Maggie Haberman-type to Harris, who will write endless puff pieces and provide carefully curated scoops.

  12. Spencer Dawkins says:

    I have no doubt that people approached Hunter because of his connection to Joe, and only a little doubt that Hunter was ok with that, but it bugs me that I don’t remember seeing anyone who hired Hunter ever saying whether he did good work, bad work, or no work.

    Have I missed a mountain of reporting about that?

    • SotekPrime says:

      We’ve seen some admissions from Hunter that he did bad/no work in the throes of addiction, but like … that’s about the addiction, not the work.

      Most of what he did was corporate board stuff, which I personally take a pretty dim view of in general but what little coverage I ever saw sure made him look at least as competent at that as the average.

      • Spencer Dawkins says:

        Yeah, keeping that in mind is useful. Failson and Eric served in a lot of corporate capacities for entities that ended up in court, which I don’t think is true for Hunter Biden.

  13. Sussex Trafalgar says:

    Excellent piece—well said!

    The Trump criminal syndicate needs Peter Theil’s money, that’s why J.D. Vance was selected as Trump’s VP.

    And Peter Thiel always gets something or many things in return for providing money. That’s his M.O.

    • Molly Pitcher says:

      This is exactly the reason Vance was selected. No one else came with the connections to the crypto-bros that Vance has. That would have been a lot of money to leave on the table.

    • Ginevra diBenci says:

      I thought Doug Burgum had his own money. That was supposed to be one of his attractions as a VP pick. I’ll admit I wrongly expected Trump to pick Burgum; my thinking was that Trump’s ego would not allow him to run with someone younger and hotter, and Burgum would offer the “steady hand” persona as well as some cash.

      It seems like a sign of Trump’s deterioration that he would allow DJTJ and Eric (along with Elon) override his instincts. That never would have happened in 2016. And with that Diet Mountain Dew clip going the rounds everywhere, I bet he’s regretting it big time now.

  14. Spencer Dawkins says:

    Given that Trump has little or no loyalty to anyone except Trump, I’m wondering how long before Trump decides Vance was a mistake and tried to punt him and find a better(*) running mate.

    The stubbornly loyal person in this election was Biden. If Trump is already looking at low poll numbers and lower donations for Vance, does he try to replace him, or leave him in place as a scapegoat for the inevitable defeat?

    (*) If Trump does replace Vance, who would he pick? Don Jr. must have even more reprehensible friends to choose from …

    • boatgeek says:

      Ballot access deadlines are at or shortly after the beginning of August. After that, Trump can’t replace Vance without a serious mess in what appears on the ballot in the VP slot.

      • boatgeek says:

        More importantly, unless there’s some kind of very serious new issue with Vance, Trump would have to admit error in choosing Vance to replace him. And Trump never, ever admits error.

        • SteveBev says:

          And Trump would make it Vance’s fault in some way —- some failure to be loyal which showed that Vance was weak, and only pretended to be strong.

    • David Brooks says:

      And if Trump does stick with JD, coasts to victory, and has a fatal hamberder event, will prez JD choose Don Jr as his veep? I can think of worse ideas.

      Oh, actually I can’t.

        • boatgeek says:

          Reply to Matt___B 11:56am:
          Kamala can’t choose Gavin since the president and VP have to be from different states. Unless one of them changes their official state of residence, I suppose.

        • earlofhuntingdon says:

          The constitutional prohibition on the president and vp being from the same state isn’t a general one. The consequence is limited to not counting the votes of electors from that state.

          That could be decisive if the relevant state were, say, California or Florida. But the consequence can be avoided simply by having one candidate overtly change their residence before the electoral college votes are cast for that state, and it would only be necessary for those on the winning ticket.

        • Matt___B says:

          Boatgeek @ 12:03

          Left out the snark tag! I was just further elaborating on Peterr’s fantasy…

    • jdmckay8 says:

      or leave him in place as a scapegoat for the inevitable defeat?

      I don’t think so. Trump is running to stay out of prison. He’s desperate to win.

    • SteveBev says:

      “If Trump does replace Vance, who would he pick?”

      Who better than someone who has appeal to independent and cross-party voters, but a proven pro-business outlook, ruggedly handsome and apparently available willing and able to answer his nation’s call ——
      Step Forward
      —- Joe Manchin /.s

    • Taxesmycredulity says:

      Shortly after being picked for VP, Vance said something to the effect that “he picked me, it’s official, and he can’t take it back now” (couldn’t find a link, sorry). Hearing that, my first thought–other than that that was a really stupid thing to say out loud–was, you sure don’t know TFG very well, do you? He’ll get rid of you just for saying he can’t! I don’t expect Vance to be on the ticket for long.

      • SteveBev says:

        “He’s doing really well, he’s really caught on.”

        Which seems to me like a preamble to the unspoken
        “But, there’s a way to go yet”

      • earlofhuntingdon says:

        The only thing Donald Trump has in common with Jethro Gibbs is that he never apologies: it’s a sign of weakness. Trump would also say that about Vance, while raising the proverbial dagger to cut him from the ticket.

      • boatgeek says:

        I’m with the good Earl on this one. Trump saying anything else would be admitting error, and I think that would make his head explode.

  15. zscoreUSA says:

    The NBC article is titled “The inside story of how Trump chose JD Vance as his running mate”.

    How are they getting inside sources?

    In the wake of the assassination attempt, the Trump Campaign issued a memo with a “total communication lockdown” threatening termination.
    https://archive.is/FkBWy
    https://archive.is/fUIcg

    Which was still just a couple of days after Trump meeting Orban, and before Vance was announced. Which Orban has expressed approval for.
    https://archive.is/yf2ho
    https://archive.is/LCG1F

      • zscoreUSA says:

        If there is a firewall to prevent information from the campaign from getting out.

        And there is information coming out about Vance’s selection, then that is information approved for release from the top of the campaign.

        Which makes me wonder what information about Vance’s selection is this type of reporting leaving out. Whatever further information there is about Vance’s selection must be something that the Trump campaign really, really wants to keep behind that firewall.

        A distraction of sorts.

  16. Zinsky123 says:

    I saw excerpts of Vance’s speech at his old high school and it was pathetic. He sounded like a snarky 8th grader. I’m surprised he didn’t tell fart jokes. This guy is a loser and I’m guessing Trump is already regretting this very poor VP choice! Go Kamala!

  17. Matt Foley says:

    J.D. Vance aka James David Vance né James David Hamel né James Donald Bowman.

    Is this his final name or will he change it to Trump?

  18. Badger Robert says:

    Is the selection of Vance a sign that there are no normal people left in the Trump organization? I think of Has every normal person quit or been fired?
    Everything now is based on the grinding shortage of cash? I wonder.

    • Cheez Whiz says:

      The person with the final say is not “normal people”. There are normal people tasked with following the strategic instructions of the person with the final say, but that hasn’t worked so well in the past. No, not 2016. Think 1944-45.

      • Just Some Guy says:

        Certainly nobody normal enough to use spellchecker, if White House press releases during the Trump administration are any indication.

  19. Badger Robert says:

    I also wonder if recent developments at the Sp Ct and in the Presidential campaign have left President Biden and the intelligence community free to find and block foreign origin influence campaigns and arrest the perpetrators,

    • Rayne says:

      Thanks, harpie.

      I sure would like to know the calculus behind the 24-48 hour lag to endorse.

      • Tburgler says:

        I’ve seen speculation that leadership did not want it to appear as a “coronation,” a word some assholes in the press still used despite the spontaneous expressions of support by Dem voters.

        • earlofhuntingdon says:

          The concern trolling about avoiding a coronation ignores the overt coronation of Donald Trump. It ignores the intense, off-camera lobbying and networking that often dictates the results that the public theater of a convention typically only acknowledges. It ignores the toing and froing with billionaire donors, who want to dictate results or take their money elsewhere. Thankfully, Democrats have a few of those that are more flexible.

          The next question is the VP pick. Harris will be sixty when she wins in November. The usual “balance” requirement suggest her VP pick is likely to be a 40-50-year-old white male, from the South or East, There are several to choose from. Schiff and Newsom will have to wait another day. Raskin is two years older, and I don’t think he wants it.

      • Ithaqua0 says:

        Leaders who want to build real consensus speak last, not first. I’ve probably seen this a dozen times in the various management training/refresher classes I’ve taken over the years.

        • Rayne says:

          Transparency is missing. If these leaders were doing a whip on votes they should have said so. Lead by example — not by default or by dragging.

          They could even have gone one-two but they didn’t.

        • Ithaqua0 says:

          Reply to Rayne @ 2:21 PM

          You’ve missed the (admittedly terse) point. If you’re whipping votes, you’re speaking first, not last. If you’re “leading by example,” you’re setting the example by speaking first, not last. In a situation where you need real consensus – not manufactured “do what I say or else” or “follow the leader” consensus – those are both mistakes. You want people to make up their own minds, admittedly guided by you, but not led or directed by you. Then they own, and support, the decision much more strongly than if their minds are made up for them.

        • jdmckay8 says:

          Ithaqua0says: @ July 23, 2024 at 6:08 pm

          My impression is nobody needed much whipping. Everybody was ready for this. From what I hear, people are burning up the phones volunteering to do whatever is needed, wherever its needed.

          Saw a great interview with Howard Dean, saying as much in his own words.

          This is a really organic thing. Sweet.

      • SVFranklinS says:

        Probably keeps the rolling praises in the news longer.
        Makes it look like people are thinking about it and not just mindlessly following.

      • DrDizme_23JUL2024_1921h says:

        Perhaps, since the debate we’ve had nonstop re-runs of Old Man Biden, that it’s OK w/the Dems to stretch it out and control the news cycles/narrative as much as possible.

        [Welcome to emptywheel. Please choose and use a unique username with a minimum of 8 letters. We have adopted this minimum standard to support community security. Because your username is too short it will be temporarily changed to match the date/time of your first known comment until you have a new compliant username. /~Rayne]

        • Rayne says:

          This isn’t business as usual. We don’t need two men taking their sweet time to appear together at the same time to pronounce it’s all good.

          There were better ways to handle this which also addressed those demanding more transparency while not making it look like a couple men in positions of power weren’t fully on board and in consensus with the first Black Asian American woman POTUS candidate bearing the standard of their party as nominee.

          As for controlling the news cycle/narrative: beyond the record volume contributed inside 48 hours, how much more small donor money would it take for you to believe the cycle was owned? Again, this isn’t business as usual. It shouldn’t be handled as such.

      • Ginevra diBenci says:

        What about the Obamas’ much longer lag to make their own, albeit made-for-TV endorsement?

        The video is nice, but I’m still wondering what exactly they were waiting for. Thinking back to Obama-era gossip about Michelle chafing at Barack’s supposed crush on Harris…Ah, those innocent days when the DC press corps could truly fulfill its purpose of acting like adult life is high school writ authoritatively large with stupid headlines.

        • Rayne says:

          I just read elsewhere on social media that the Obamas wanted to wait until after Biden gave his address.

          To me this sounds like an excuse. This is one of those times when Obama’s conservative approach — which dogged him about so many important issues as president, like his position on LGBTQ+ rights — comes off not as restraint for politesse but skepticism.

    • jdmckay8 says:

      I watched the announcement. I’ve never seen Schumer Happier. He listened to a few rediculous “got’cha” questons from media present afterwards, then just shook his head in astonishment and he/Jeffries left.

      Also, this:

      A coalition of former Republican presidential candidate Nikki Haley voters pledged their support for Democratic Vice President Kamala Harris’ presidential bid on Sunday, hours after President Joe Biden announced that he was dropping out of the race.

      https://www.newsweek.com/nikki-haley-voters-pac-announces-support-kamala-harris-1928198

  20. SunZoomSpark says:

    Rayne,
    Like Obama, I think they wanted to let the “open selection process” go forward before endorsing. Now that she has all the votes she needs for the nomination they can endorse.

      • earlofhuntingdon says:

        Yes, whatever the reality, the delay conveys reluctance rather than leadership. It suggests disagreement, a lack of enthusiasm or sufficient networking, or a missing, necessary quid pro quo.

        That stuffs needs to stay behind the woodshed. Voter enthusiasm requires overt, unquestioning support. A growing snowball effect is nice, but not from the top players.

        • Rayne says:

          The optics for a first Black Asian American woman POTUS candidate require something different than status quo.

          Men in the Democratic Party need to catch a clue about this, stat.

        • Shadowalker says:

          Biden/Harris outmaneuvered them and forced them to go with Harris. I think AOC was right, they wanted to toss the whole ticket away and start over, which would have been an absolute disaster. They forgot one thing, their ticket has a base, and we are pissed.

      • Badger Robert says:

        Obama and Biden seem to have some serious disagreements. It seems as if Obama never wanted Biden to run, because of his age. And it seems to me they had serious disagreements about Kamala Harris. As noted, Biden seems to have out maneuvered Obama. Hopefully time will prove Joe is and was correct.
        Fundamentally, Biden is a successful one term President. Harris is not handed the challenge of her party retaining the Presidency for three successive terms.

      • Clare Kelly says:

        VP Harris has now repeated this from her first statement after Joe endorsed her:

        “On behalf of the American people, I thank Joe Biden for his extraordinary leadership as President of the United States and for his decades of service to our country. His remarkable legacy of accomplishment is unmatched in modern American history, surpassing the legacy of many Presidents who have served two terms in office,”
        ~Kamala Harris

        I could be wrong, but I thought I heard a few ‘mm-hmm’ s and some chuckles from the adoring crowd in Milwaukee.

        I’m guessing the Obama bros weren’t there to hear it.

  21. Bobster33 says:

    “Mr. Trump had frequently told me and others that his son . . . had the worst judgment of anyone in the world.”

    That quote seems applicable to at least the last four generations of Trumps.

  22. gmokegmoke says:

    “Gossip press”

    It’s almost all gossip press. Watching MSNBC last night it was almost a full hour of gossip, personality points, and horses’ asses race commentary for Rachel Maddow’s panel. Only at the very end of the hour did Cory Booker come on and took the opportunity to list a series of issues that he believes make Kamala Harris and the Democratic ticket the choice over Trmp. Of course, there was no substantive discussion of those issues. Just a listing of them.

    These days I tend to believe that the gossip press is there to distract us from the realities of the world we are living in – for instance, the wars we don’t really talk about (Israel, Ukraine) and the wars we don’t talk about at all (Congo, Sudan, Myanmar….). My issue is climate and I have not seen it mentioned on the news that the acceleration in atmospheric CO2 is taking off, that the Thwaites glacier in Antarctica is melting at an unprecedented rate as are the glaciers in Greenland, that the Amazon rainforest is near or at its tipping point, that the oceans are sequestering CO2 at lower levels than they used to and that, preliminarily, it seems the soil is suffering the same lowering of capacity.

    We already feel this in food prices and immigration pressures around the world but let’s spend another few days discussing a Presidential candidate’s malapropisms. That’s what’s important.

    • Bobster33 says:

      Donald Trump is the Zaphod Beeblebrox candidate. Zaphod in the book “Hitchhikers’ Guide to the Galaxy,” was the president of the galaxy. Zaphod’s job was not to wield power, but to distract you from his wielding of power. It helps when the media is complicit.

      • earlofhuntingdon says:

        His job was to distract you from others who wielded power. But have another Pan-Galactic Gargle Blaster.

        • Benji-am-Groot says:

          Exactly. I have had this conversation with several Donvict supporters – the point they cannot grasp is that ‘owning the libs’ is not the flex they think it is. They do not quite realize they will be thrown under the bus most rikci-tick as soon as the election is over.

          I am voting agenda – not person. And the rapethuglican/conservative agenda makes Rayne’s copious dry heaves pale in comparision to how I get when I realize that fully a third of voters in this nation actually want this orange turd in a position he can abuse.

          Person wise Kamala is a former prosecutor – that gives me pause, however she seems to have the Democratic machine behind her so, okay. I can get over that aspect of her character.

          I do not see her at the helm of a vindictive, ego-driven power trip.

          The Felon Guy? Fuck him and the machine behind him.

          EW – amazing site and I count myself lucky to be able to opine here. Thank you.

      • boatgeek says:

        Yeah, and Trump would definitely the Heart of Gold too. You know, to replace his own that’s three sizes too small.

    • gmokegmoke says:

      All the replies miss my point. It ain’t just the pols. It’s the media itself, corporate as it is. Even without a pol trying distraction techniques to cover their abuse of power, the (corporate) media will still rev up their own distraction machines in order to avoid Al Gore’s (and many other’s) “inconvenient truths” staring us all in the face.

      Corporate media, and almost all media is corporate, is frozen in “business as usual,” BAU. Anything that recognizes BAU is, for way too many and too much, destruction and death.

      • earlofhuntingdon says:

        Why would you assume commenters miss your point, simply because they fail to focus their comments on it?

  23. Savage Librarian says:

    Mamala is brat.

    I would just like to say kudos to Ryan @ryanlong03. Nice work! I think you might help to save the world.

    “why did I stay up till 3am making a von dutch brat coconut tree edit featuring kamala harris and why can’t I stop watching it on repeat”

      • harpie says:

        Go to this link to see the poster shown in that Media Matters article:

        https://x.com/JonahDispatch/status/1815721868952793403
        8:13 AM · Jul 23, 2024

        [Bitcoin 2024 – Nashville]

        This is from the Guardian article re Nashville:

        […] Over the past two weeks, neo-Nazi groups and affiliated organizations, including the Patriot Front and a network calling itself the Goyim Defense League, have staged antisemitic stunts in the city center – including stopping passersby and asking them if they are Jewish. They have also disrupted a city council meeting. […]

      • Ginevra diBenci says:

        Local NBC affiliate reporter Phil Williams has long done yeoman’s work in Nashville posing hard questions to tough customers. He has been covering this situation tirelessly–and fearlessly.

        Support your local media! They are often the last line standing for truth. And there’s nothing in it for them to suck up.

    • harpie says:

      Michelle Goldberg writes about JUNIOR DON’s campaign event in Nashville, here:
      https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/07/22/opinion/thepoint/candace-owens-trump-fundrasier [58 minutes ago]
      The Antisemite Coming to the Trump Fund-Raiser

      The far-right media star Candace Owens thinks that Adolf Hitler is misunderstood.

      “They’ve turned him almost into Lord Voldemort,” she said on her YouTube show this month. “We actually know nothing about the person other than that we must fear him.” […]

      So it’s striking to learn, via Jewish Insider, that Owens is listed as a featured guest at a fund-raising event for Donald Trump’s campaign on Friday in Nashville — a city, it’s worth noting, that has recently been invaded by gangs of neo-Nazis and white supremacists. Donald Trump Jr. is headlining and tickets start at $3,000.

      Trump, of course, is no stranger to virulent Jew-haters; in 2022 he dined with the Hitler-loving rapper Ye (formerly Kanye West) and the white nationalist Nick Fuentes, both allies of Owens. It’s still surprising that Trump and his camp feel emboldened enough to openly associate with a Holocaust denier in the middle of a presidential campaign. Maybe they thought we’d all be so busy worrying about Joe Biden that we wouldn’t notice.

      • Krisy Gosney says:

        We don’t know anything about Hitler? Anyone with a Netflix password can search ‘Hitler’ and find pages of docuseries and documentaries on Hitler. If you don’t have a Netflix password, the History channel runs something on Hitler almost everyday. You don’t even have to get out of bed to know a lot about Hitler. So come girl, get a nice cuppa, curl up with your iPad and get your Hitler on!

        • arleychino says:

          There’s also the passive energy old-fashioned way to get to know Mr Hitler –
          Karl Dietrich Bracher “The German Dictatorship: The Origins, Structure, and Effects of National Socialism”.

          Alan Bullock “Hitler: A Study in Tyranny”1952.

        • Ironcity says:

          That is why decades ago my spouse started calling it “The Hitler Channel” and she wsn’t wrong.

        • earlofhuntingdon says:

          Anyone with a library card or Internet access can do the same. Hitler is among the easiest historical figures to learn something about.

          Btw, Alan Bullock was a typical, iconoclastic Oxbridge don. His biography of Hitler slips in several controversial one-liners. I believe he was the historian who regarded Hitler as a typical German, which ruffled a few of Konrad Adenauer’s feathers, starting with that he was Austrian.

        • earlofhuntingdon says:

          On reflection, I think it was A.J.P. Taylor who described Hitler as no more and no less than the average German.

          Taylor, Bullock, and Hugh Trevor-Roper comprised a triumvirate of Oxford history dons, who dominated modern history during the post-Second World War generation.

        • posaune says:

          Interesting reading I have going now.
          Victor Klemperer’s “Language of the Third Reich” –how nazi use of language created the desired culture. Klemperer’s diary “I Will Bear Witness,” (2 volumes) is extraordinary.

    • harpie says:

      [^^^ There’s a comment in the pokey here]
      [This one, too. Sorry Rayne…don’t know what I’m doing wrong here. :-( []

      This was reposted by Sheralyn Ifill [sorry, I don’t know sp]

      https://bsky.app/profile/oldsquida.bsky.social/post/3kxpxzyd6dh2c
      Jul 20, 2024 at 11:31 AM

      local Nashville reporter, Phil Williams, doing what the national newspapers won’t do [link]

      Links to:
      Confronting the hate, Phil Williams tells neo-Nazis:
      ‘When I look at you guys, I do not think master race.’
      Posted: 1:54 PM, Jul 19, 2024 Updated: 1:43 PM, Jul 23, 2024

      • Just Some Guy says:

        What’s been going on in Nashville is shameful and heartbreaking. Glad to see the Music City’s answer to Kent Brockman taking a different tack and not welcoming the alien overlords.

        Ps sorry for the Username being off, I didn’t catch the typo.

      • Savage Librarian says:

        I love Phil Williams for saying that. I’ve filed it in my memory banks: ‘When I look at you guys, I do not think master race.’

      • Ginevra diBenci says:

        harpie, I just cited Phil Williams above, not having read down to your comment here. As usual, you got here before me! Maybe two voice singing his praises will help?

    • harpie says:

      https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/07/26/us/harris-trump-biden-election/4a3de598-3a6a-5b86-9201-1cd8d52a558e
      Chris Cameron July 26, 2024, 4:29 p.m. ET

      I’m at the Bitcoin Conference in Nashville, where elected officials and candidates are appearing in an effort court the support of cryptocurrency enthusiasts, who have been spending heavily on high-profile races across the country. Robert F. Kennedy Jr., the independent presidential candidate who has called for deregulating the cryptocurrency industry, is set to speak soon from the main stage of the conference.

      Republican Senators Tim Scott of South Carolina and Cynthia Lummis of Wyoming spoke in a segment called “for love of country and Bitcoin.” Senators Scott and Lummis made a direct appeal for the crypto industry to back Republicans in exchange for deregulation, with Lummis saying that if Republicans win the Senate in November, Scott will be the chair of the Senate Banking Committee.

      • harpie says:

        Edward SNOWDEN is here virtually:

        https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/07/26/us/harris-trump-biden-election#6f460398-3490-5edb-9b4a-dac16e493674 Chris Cameron July 26, 2024, 5:21 p.m. ET

        Edward Snowden, the former U.S. intelligence contractor who became one of the world’s most high-profile fugitives after leaking hundreds of highly classified N.S.A. documents, spoke in a virtual appearance at the bitcoin conference. Snowden, who has been living in Russia, mostly discussed cryptocurrency and tech regulations, but obliquely commented on American politics, urging the audience to vote in November, but not to “join a cult.” The audience, which appeared to be hanging on Snowden’s every word, applauded at that remark.

      • harpie says:

        And JUNIOR RFK:

        […] Kennedy said that, if elected, he would direct the U.S. government to buy four million bitcoin as a financial reserve, which would be valued at roughly $271 billion, according to today’s exchange rates. […]

      • harpie says:

        TRUMP arrives [not sure if he’s there or virtual]
        https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/07/27/us/harris-trump-biden-election/c0b8fb63-c815-57b1-b341-bcefc0218dfe July 27, 2024, 2:46 p.m. ET

        Donald Trump will be speaking shortly here at the Bitcoin Conference in Nashville, seeking to court the support of the cryptocurrency industry, which has been spending heavily on high-profile races across the country. Trump and Robert F. Kennedy Jr., his independent presidential rival, are competing for the support of crypto enthusiasts.

        Speaking from the main stage on Friday, Kennedy criticized the former president as a late supporter of cryptocurrency, pointing out that Trump had described Bitcoin in 2021 as a “scam against the dollar.” Trump will be taking a very difference stance here today.

        • Clare Kelly says:

          Whereas Vance is essentially a crypto currency lobbyist.

          Per his latest disclosures in 2022, he had $100,000-250,000 in BTC, stored on the Coinbase exchange.

        • harpie says:

          https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/07/27/us/harris-trump-biden-election/d3b6db34-b61a-5bfc-b905-1ea187a3926b July 27, 2024, 4:16 p.m. ET

          Donald Trump took the stage at the Bitcoin conference and said that the Secret Service caused his delay because they needed more time to prepare for his appearance. “I said you take all the time you want,” Trump said, to laughter from the audience. “You can take two hours, three hours — the hell with the people that have been waiting out here.”

          Trump is lauding the cryptocurrency industry as full of promise, equating it to “the steel industry of 100 years ago.” He also touted the endorsement of Elon Musk, the tech billionaire and owner of Tesla, even as he attacked Biden administration policies meant to promote the use of electric cars. “Not everybody has to have an electric car. I told him that,” Trump said.

          Trump often accuses the Biden administration of political persecution, but he adds today that the cryptocurrency industry has also been a victim. “The moment I’m sworn in,” he said, “the persecution stops and the weaponization ends against your industry.”

          Trump just ended his speech with a vow to create a “strategic national Bitcoin stockpile” if elected, pledging that all Bitcoin that “the U.S. government currently holds or acquires” would be placed in that stockpile and not sold. The announcement earned raucous applause from the audience. “For too long, our government has violated the cardinal rule that every Bitcoiner knows by heart: Never sell your Bitcoin,” Trump said.

  24. Matt Foley says:

    OT: Bob Menendez didn’t make the MAGA cut of 34 felony convictions and so is resigning.

    • SteveBev says:

      Not only are theses articles conceptually fallacious and false, but their drafting reads like the writing of an idiot.

      Andy Ogles, whose educational career was not blessed with success, but nevertheless included untrue claims by him as late as 2023 to have been awarded a degree for which he never enrolled or studied, is the sort of idiot who imagined he could pull off sov-cit like bullshit.

    • earlofhuntingdon says:

      Republicans tend to use their most dispensable congresscritters to spearhead false claims like this. Andy Ogles barely graduated with a George W. Bush gentleman’s “C” in “liberal studies” (about the same as a general education certificate). He attended at least three, publicly-supported local colleges in Tennessee to get it.

      Politicians or their staff usually vet their history before, during, and after entering the game. But the 53-year-old Ogles was 35 before he finally bothered to look up what college issued him a degree. He’s still fuzzy about what he studied. He’s now serving his first term in the House.

      He wouldn’t know what a “high crime and misdemeanor” if he shook hands with Donald Trump, which makes him the perfect foil to file impeachment proceedings against the President of the Senate.

  25. SunZoomSpark says:

    Fascists
    To the tune of Fashion by David Bowie with Robert Fripp (guitar)
    https://youtu.be/F-z6u5hFgPk?si=kwIWANo4CW_oHmB7

    There’s a brand new scam
    And we all know its name
    That bastards with billions
    Are pushing again
    They rile up the maggots
    Full of tension and fear
    They do it in Russia
    But WE WON’T DO IT HERE!

    Fascists, turn to the right
    Fascists, more to the right
    Ooh fascists
    They are the goon squad and they’re owning your town
    Deep-creep, shit-heap
    Listen to me, don’t listen too close
    Talk to me, you won’t stay free
    Dance with me, then bend the knee
    No
    Bleak-reek

    There’s a brand new talk
    But it’s not very clear,
    ooh bop
    That people with power
    Are talking this year,
    ooh bop, fascists
    It’s loud and it’s ruthless
    But we’ve heard it before,
    ooh bop
    You shout it while goose stepping
    On the killing floor,
    ooh bop, fascists

    Fascists, turn to the right
    Fascists, more to the right
    They are the goon squad and they’re owning your brain
    Deep-Creep
    Listen to me, don’t listen too close
    Talk to me, you won’t stay free
    Dance with me, then bend the knee
    NO!

    • Matt Foley says:

      I can’t resist, lemme give this a go.
      Let’s Dance by David Bowie

      Intro:
      Ah ah ah ah
      I’m Vance
      I’m Vance

      Verse:
      I’m Vance Put on my red hat and lick the shoes
      I’m Vance To the throng I’m waving, how they love me so
      Let’s pray While orange lights up his face
      Let’s pray Pray to our god for a single race

      Chorus:
      If you say run, I’ll run with you
      And if you say jump, how high?
      Because my love for you has broken the country in two
      If you should fall off of the stairs, I’ll get all the power

    • punaise says:

      beep-beep!
      nice work.

      Don’t let me hear you say life’s taking you nowhere (angel)
      Run for the shadows in beholden years

      • hippiebullsht says:

        So very good! I needed the laugh for non-politic reasons.

        And overexposure to originals had me singing your words spot on!

      • Ginevra diBenci says:

        punaise, that is my favorite song. Not my favorite Bowie song. My favorite all time by anyone song.

        If anyone’s in the back of a dream car twenty feet long, it’s Trump.

  26. Bugboy321 says:

    What? No mention whatsoever of Jr. for VP? And here I thought they were all on board with this “return to feudalism” schtick, otherwise known as “fascism-curious”? They were crowing about Ivanka in 2016 like she was some kind of princess, maybe the first born son doesn’t shine so bright after all?

    Of course he doesn’t, who the hell am I kidding?

  27. earlofhuntingdon says:

    If now-resigned USSS director, Kim Cheatle, had been working for Donald Trump’s administration, she would still be in office, would deny an assassination attempt took place, much less on her watch, and that it was either a false flag op to embarrass Trump, “Democrat” propaganda, or both. Trump would then promote her to head the DHS, on an acting basis, because it was only an attempt.

    Because Cheatle was hired by and works for Joe Biden, she resigned. Regardless of where the errors lay or who committed them, as captain of the ship, she did the right thing, presumably after making sure deputies and others were ready and able to hold the reins until Biden names a replacement. That’s the difference between Biden and Trump, and it’s not a small one.

    • SteveBev says:

      I am not sure that the reporting on the actions of Cheatle since the assassination attempt bears such a benign interpretation of her attitude towards resignation .

      Didn’t she repeatedly resist calls for her resignation, and insist she would stay on, even in the face of a joint letter calling for her resignation from Raskin and Comer?

      Had she adopted the course that you’re suggesting, wouldn’t the way to have achieved that would have been to tender her resignation to the President and offer to remain in post until proper handover to a successor took place?

      • earofhuntingdon says:

        What she may have wanted, and what she chose to do, as with Biden, are not the same thing.

      • earlofhuntingdon says:

        Lawrence O’Donnell had an extended segment on the long history of the USSS allowing a president to be shot, and the persistent lack of consequences for the USSS director. Cheatle has been the rare exception, in that she faced consequences for allowing an attack during her tenure.

        • P J Evans says:

          They have a long history of being the enforcement arm of the Treasury. They got the protection job because they were around. And they’re a small agency – 6500 people, including all the administrative types. They really can’t provide that much protection.

        • earlofhuntingdon says:

          I think it’s now about 8300, but that’s not many for its remit. If the GOP wants it to start doing a better job, it should support increased funding and resources – and a reorganization of the outsized DHS. They should probably stop trying to impeach Alejandro Mayorkas, too, and let him get on with the job.

      • Super Nintendo Chalmers says:

        Not masking or getting vaxxed and dying to “spite” Biden. They sure showed Brandon (rolls eyes).

      • P J Evans says:

        Demonstrating that they fail at statistics, too: they act like one year of Donnie is the same as three years of Biden, instead of death rate comparisons, or deaths per year.

    • Matt Foley says:

      If this happened under Trump then KellyAnne Conway would be on Fox bragging that “Trump is in such great shape that he was able to deflect the bullet with his ear. The incredible marksmanship and professionalism of Trump’s Secret Service neutralized the gunman before he could cause Trump serious harm.”

  28. Tim Weston says:

    I urge everyone to please watch Kamala’s speech from Milwaukee today. At a minimum it will make you feel good. At a maximum, it’s Game Over for the Convicted Felon.

  29. harpie says:

    TRUMP’s lawyer to the FEC [by Maggie, seven minutes ago]
    https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/07/23/us/harris-trump-news-election-biden#trump-campaign-files-complaint-over-transfer-of-biden-funds-to-harris

    […] “Kamala Harris is seeking to perpetrate a $91.5 million dollar heist of Joe Biden’s leftover campaign cash — a brazen money grab that would constitute the single largest excessive contribution and biggest violation in the history of the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971, as amended,” [Trump campaign’s general counsel, David] Warrington wrote in the complaint.

    Mr. Warrington accused the president, Ms. Harris and the campaign treasurer of “flagrantly violating the Act by making and receiving an excessive contribution of nearly one hundred million dollars, and for filing fraudulent forms with the Commission purporting to repurpose one candidate’s principal campaign committee for the use of another candidate.”

    Not all campaign finance legal experts share Mr. Warrington’s view and it’s unclear what the F.E.C. will decide. But the Trump team is looking to grind the gears in the transition from Mr. Biden to Ms. Harris in any way they can. […]

    • PieIsDamnGood says:

      Will the FEC even act fast enough for this to matter? I hope VP Kamala takes the money and deals with the bad faith legal arguments as president.

      • Shadowalker says:

        It’s a joint committee, Biden released his part of the joint control to Harris, since the funds were for both candidates.

        • CaptainCondorcet says:

          The Trump-nominated former Cruz staffer chairman of the FEC disagrees with that interpretation, but almost certainly will be outvoted even by the other two R-nominated members. Which means we can expect him to try to stall out that ineviable vote so “Crooked Kamala” can be a recurring theme up until the election.

        • earlofhuntingdon says:

          Given age, health, accident, fate, and the normal ins and outs of political life, joint accounts are typically available to either or both beneficiaries, not to both acting together, which would normally be unworkable. A pair of politicians on a ticket, for example, often travel, hold meetings and gatherings, and so on, separately, but for similar purposes.

    • klynn says:

      If they throw cogs, $91.5 million will be raised in other ways.

      I imagine, from my non-profit work experience with a foundation merge, all donors may be contacted to fill out a redistribution form, to move funds.

      • earlofhuntingdon says:

        If Biden and Harris were joint beneficiaries, and Biden concedes his interest to Harris, there’s no argument that Harris isn’t entitled to use the money for the same purposes that either or both could have used it when it was still a joint account.

        The legal commentariat doesn’t give the Trump claims much chance. Like most of Trump’s legal arguments, these are rubbish, designed to dominate the news cycle. They are meant to stir the base, and smear opponents, not to prove impropriety or wrongdoing.

        • Yohei1972 says:

          Didn’t the legal commentariat also doubt Trump could get a SCOTUS majority to sign onto his immunity arguments? Precedent and the letter of the law are on their way out the window.

      • Shadowalker says:

        She has brought in over $100 million in a 48 hour period, the mega donors have returned with another $150 million. Meanwhile, Elmo clarified that he wasn’t giving Trump $45 million a month, but instead setup a superpac that would be getting the cash, and to spread it around he mentioned a few others joining him. Tesla just had a 45% profit decline the second quarter, despite a price cut and lower interest loans to boost sales.

  30. dopefish says:

    OT: the New York Times published an opinion piece by Hillary Clinton today, praising Biden for his hard choice to step aside and calling Democrats to action to help Harris win.

    There is now an even sharper, clearer choice in this election. On one side is a convicted criminal who cares only about himself and is trying to turn back the clock on our rights and our country. On the other is a savvy former prosecutor and successful vice president who embodies our faith that America’s best days are still ahead. It’s old grievances versus new solutions.

    I look forward to hearing her prosecute a compelling case against Mr. Trump, who failed as a president the first time and is running on a dangerous agenda. A second Trump term would be much worse than the first. Mr. Trump’s plans are more extreme, he is more unhinged, and the guardrails that constrained some of his worst instincts are gone.

  31. earlofhuntingdon says:

    One nice thing about Kamala Harris’s campaign so far is that she isn’t afraid to go for some of that old time religion. Decidedly not fundamentalist state Christianism, but hard, direct, smart, funny, loud electioneering that accurately portrays her opponent and his party for what they are. There’s so much information on them to draw from that the caricatures draw themselves. More of that from Democrats, please.

    • harpie says:

      I agree. I’m LOVING that!
      And I’m quite sure there are very many more like us out here!

  32. dark winter says:

    great read emptywheel. I came to catch up and to ask about the campaign funds that trumpers are questioning if they can be transfered. I’m so pleased this has been brought up. I’ve been ‘giddy like Schumer’ since she announced. VP Harris was asked about her laugh and Kamala stated she knows it grates on some folks. She explained growing up w/women who laughed heartily, from deep down and loudly. I fell in love w/her all over again. I’m also so proud of president Biden. OT/President Biden has planned to address the Nation from the Oval office at the same exact time Bibi (war criminal) Netanyahu will be addressing congress. I delighted in my snickering, he he he. Onward and upward!

  33. Savage Librarian says:

    Felon vs. Prosecutor

    It’s not something he cares to dwell on
    or wants to waste the personnel on
    He thinks he still can work a spell on
    the man who gave him $50 million

    Time for Donald to put some gel on
    for a Zoom call with Tim Mellon
    Will he put his hard sell on
    Histrionic, 34 count felon

    News is popping for each commuter
    They wonder if Trump needs a tutor
    We know he probably will be cruder
    But face to face debate will suit her

    Felon vs. Prosecutor
    Trump thinks Harris is an intruder
    But he won’t be able to dispute her
    And in the end we will salute her

  34. dark winter says:

    could you please tell me why my comment was removed

    thank you

    [Moderator’s note: there’s no comment authored by you in the Trash or Pending bin — no comment appears to have been removed. Try again and avoid cluttering comments with complaints. /~Rayne]

      • earlofhuntingdon says:

        I think so. Heroes and villains go to jail. But being beaten in the EC and the popular vote by a woman of color – a double first for the country – has to be the guy from Queens worst nightmare. It makes him a Failure and a Weakling. He’ll dream of daddy getting the paddle, or worse.

  35. bloopie2 says:

    After I read about the “DEI” comments on Harris, this headline in The Guardian caught my eye: “Violence against women a ‘national emergency’ in England and Wales, police say”

    “Two million women are estimated to be victims of violence perpetrated by men each year in an epidemic so serious it amounts to a “national emergency”, police chiefs have warned.

    “Crimes including stalking, harassment, sexual assault and domestic violence affect one in 12 women in England and Wales, with the number of recorded offences growing by 37% in the past five years and the perpetrators getting younger.

    “Police chiefs also warned of young men being “radicalised” online by influencers such as Andrew Tate. They demanded technology companies act more quickly to take down extreme material

    The story sure hits home here in the US, not only with violence (don’t know the statistics but it’s got to be a lot) but also with rhetoric and hatred. Meghan Markle. Kamala Harris. Fani Willis. And how can you stop it when you have numerous high elected Republican officials spouting it? Teach your children well, I guess.

    • SteveBev says:

      The Guardian piece is here
      https://amp.theguardian.com/society/article/2024/jul/23/violence-against-women-national-emergency-england-wales-police

      The cultural question of political leadership you point to is important along with education. One important contributor to both mentioned in the piece is
      “Harriet Wistrich of the Centre for Women’s Justice said: “The [NPCC] report makes little mention of the issue of police perpetrators of VAWG, which – following the recent exposure of the scale and nature of this issue – has massively dented trust in the police from victims.
      “It also does not tackle head-on the issue of criminalisation of survivors of violence which, aside from being an affront to justice, is a huge waste of criminal justice resources.”

      Educating the criminal justice system is an essential component to educating wider society about the scope and extent of the problem and what needs to be fixed

      Here is link to CWJ resource page re criminalisation of survivors of violence. I recommend the 30 min film
      https://www.centreforwomensjustice.org.uk/stop-criminalising-survivors

      I believe these issues, though discussed in the British context, have wider resonance.

  36. earlofhuntingdon says:

    Two unsurprising developments suggest the decline of the MAGA movement. Former UK prime minister, Liz Truss, attempts to deflate the Harris movement by claiming Harris is not among the ‘brilliant American women in politics.’ LMFAO.

    Truss is trying to reinvent herself – she was tossed out of office for gross incompetence after less than six weeks – as a US-based MAGA spokesperson. Good luck with that. Her envy and projection are palpable.

    Of more domestic interest, Elon Musk has apparently changed his mind – after a week – and decided NOT to give Donald Trump $45 million a month after all. His promises are worth no more than one from Donald Trump, so only Trump would have started spending the money before he got it. Let’s hope other Republican donors smell chum in the water.

    https://www.rawstory.com/liz-truss/
    https://www.rawstory.com/elon-musk-2668800627/

  37. Shadowalker says:

    There seems to be some grumbling on the right that the dems should have done a snap primary to select Harris for her new position at the top of the ticket. Since the states administer all elections involving public office (including primaries), if the dems tried doing this, it would be unconstitutional as well as violate state election laws, and it would be well within the state’s purview to reject any result of this primary, because it was never certified by the state(s).

    • Error Prone says:

      The norm for candidates withdrawing before a convention is to release delegates. Biden did that. Sure, Republicans want a food fight. Bless ’em.

      Dems will not tell Republicans what to do. It’s a pattern. Republicans want to tell Dem women how to handle their physician-patient affairs. Dem women don’t interfere into such things for GOP females. Dems think GOP females should have a choice available, which is a rational and neighborly attitude.

      Moreover, Republicans are running an old mean demented fool. Dems are pointing that out, but not saying the Reupblicans should do otherwise.

    • earlofhuntingdon says:

      Oh, my, who thinks the GOP will demand anything, no matter how absurd, that doesn’t work in their favor and against Democrats. LOL.

  38. Phillatius says:

    I notice that you have both English UK (“Judgement” in the blog title) and English US (“judgment” throughout the text).

  39. jecojeco says:

    If you’re taking advice from Failson, stop digging, you’re at rock bottom.

    The buyer’s remorse over Vance is delicious. The icing on the cake is that he loves the spotlight and puts his foot in his mouth repeatedly which will make Pops trump jealous.

    Dream scenario is that trump fires JD and picks Lara, why not? She knows how to please him.

  40. harpie says:

    TRUMP is a Whiny-Ass-Cry-BABY!

    Trump demands equal airtime from TV networks in light of Biden’s planned address. https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/07/24/us/harris-trump-biden-election#trump-equal-airtime-biden-speech Michael Gold and Jim Rutenberg July 23, 2024, 10:45 p.m. ET

    […] But in the letter, which was obtained by The New York Times, the Trump campaign’s general counsel, David Warrington, asserted in advance of Mr. Biden’s speech that it would most likely address Mr. Biden’s endorsement of Vice President Kamala Harris as his successor.

    Based on that assumption, Mr. Warrington wrote, “it appears that President Biden’s speech will not be a bona fide news event, but rather, a prime-time campaign commercial.” Citing the Federal Communications Commission’s “equal time” rule, Mr. Warrington insisted that Mr. Trump be given similar time on air, arguing that Mr. Biden’s address was a “campaign speech,” even as Mr. Biden is no longer technically a candidate for the presidency. […]

    • harpie says:

      NYT, cont’d:

      […] The Trump campaign’s letter was a throwback to an earlier, pre-cable era in television, when the broadcast networks were held to strict “public interest” standards to ensure that their local stations aired all sides of the issues and gave candidates equal access to the airwaves.

      Until the 1970s, they were duty bound to give candidates who were challenging sitting presidents equal time to respond to televised presidential addresses and news conferences.

      That changed under President Gerald Ford in 1975, when the F.C.C. — then packed with Nixon appointees — created an exemption for “bona fide news events” like presidential speeches and news conferences, which Democrats viewed as a way to give Ford undue advantage. […]

      Trump camp’s GC, David Warrington had a very busy day WHINING for TRUMP.

      See above:
      https://www.emptywheel.net/2024/07/23/fraudulent-failson-judgement-jd-vance-aint-from-here/#comment-1062537

    • SteveBev says:

      LOL
      I think Trump’s lawyers have reason to know that under a ‘Recent Important Decision’ a President addressing the Nation on matters of public concern falls comfortably within the outer perimeter of official acts, and a highly context specific analysis sensitive to the avoiding danger of unnecessarily intruding on Executive Branch prerogatives is necessary for those claiming the contrary. Given that Trump surrogates have called into question Biden’s fitness to continue in office, nothing the President says touching on his withdrawal from the election and explaining his continuation of his Presidency is capable, under this ruling, of being an unofficial act.

      • jdmckay8 says:

        Given that Trump surrogates have called into question Biden’s fitness to continue in office

        Nick Anderson’s been on a nice roll on this topic lately.

        (what a sweet, short speech from Joe tonight. I was moved like few politicians have ever moved me.

        • SteveBev says:

          Re: Joe’s speech,
          I thought it was very good and —— Very Presidential.

          Despite the occasional stutter it was fluent coherent and compelling. And repeatedly made the point that the election is the opportunity for the American people to reject the autocracy and bad faith leadership which is the GOP prospectus, and protect their democracy from this threat.

  41. c-i-v-i-l says:

    LOL. Some people trolled Vance by claiming that he wrote in his memoir that he’d had sex with a couch, and it got to the point that the AP put up a fact check, “No, JD Vance did not have sex with a couch” (https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-jd-vance-sex-couch-038130326229)! A selection of jokes about it — “JD no, that’s not what intersectional means,” “With all this stress I bet JD Vance is desperate to unload on his therapist’s couch,” “(Biting lip) ‘I did not have sexual relations with that couch,'” “The most you can say at this point is he didn’t put it in his memoir, NOT that he never put it in the sofa,” “JD Vance: barren elites with toxoplasmosis say chaise lounge, divan, recamier, settee. now I may be a small town former editor of Yale Law Review but where I come from, in Peter Thiel’s real Amerikkka, we call them “Love Seats” for a reason. Worker: sir this is a HomeGoods and you need to leave.”

    • c-i-v-i-l says:

      I’m not particularly witty myself, but here are a few more from elsewhere:
      “As any student of history like JD Vance can tell you, the Ottoman Empire didn’t just reproduce itself.”
      “southern grandmas had that plastic cover on their couch for a reason I guess”
      From Taming of the Shrew: “Or wilt thou sleep? we’ll have thee to a couch Softer and sweeter than the lustful bed”

      • Clare Kelly says:

        Thanks, harpie!

        Yes.

        How damaged does one have to be to make humor, wit, and joy the objects of ridicule?

        (Rhetorical)

    • c-i-v-i-l says:

      And a few more:

      “I’m sorry, but typically in these situations, it is not a one-off. Waiting for other couches to come forward.”

      “Like any good patriot, Vance saw a widening sectional divide and he rushed to fill it. It’s remarkable how he’s made us all come together.”

      “When JD Vance is told to sleep on the couch, that’s an open marriage”

      “a little bit of the old up-and-downholstery”

      “Listen you guys, it is only an unfounded rumor that JD Vance fucked a couch. Help to combat misinformation; be sure to post as much as possible about this so that everyone knows that there is no evidence to date that JD Vance has fucked so much as a chifforobe much less an entire couch.”
      Reply: “Wait. The chifferobe ALSO wasn’t fucked, along with the couch? How deep does this go?”
      Reply2: “With Vance I suspect it can only go so deep.”

      Handy acrostic:
      JD Vance
      Did

      Vuck
      A
      Nasty
      Couch in Hillbilly
      Elegy

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