Open Thread: SCOTUS Decisions, Wednesday Edition [UPDATE-2]
[NB: check the byline, thanks. Updates appear at the bottom of this post. /~Rayne]
Yet again a week later we’re still counting down to the Supreme Court’s term ending on June 28; SCOTUS delivers a few more decisions today with the remainder spread across tomorrow Thursday, and Friday the last day of the term.
Once more we ask: will SCOTUS finally decide the question of presidential immunity posed in Trump v. United States? Or will we not see a decision until tomorrow or Friday?
Decisions released today follow in an update at the bottom of this post.
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Time-killing observations:
Trump’s case for presidential immunity was the first sub-topic when I searched Google News for “supreme court.” Apparently corporate news media is concerned about this and willing to invest a little human capital about it.
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Today’s decisions —
First decision: Murthy v. Missouri
Justice Coney Barrett wrote the 6-3 decision; Justice Alito wrote the dissent.
This is the First Amendment case about the Biden administration’s efforts to stem disinformation on social media. The states and individual plaintiffs were found to lack standing and the Fifth Circuit erred in lumping the states and the plaintiffs together. The Fifth Circuit’s decision is reversed.
A little statistical analysis:
“Vaccine” and “vaccines” appear (65) times in total in the decision and dissent.
“Misinformation” appears (91) times.
“Disinformation” appears (3) times and not at all in the dissent.
“Ivermectin” does not appear at all.
Second decision: Snyder v. United States
Justice Kavanaugh wrote the 6-3 decision; Justice Brown Jackson wrote the dissent.
In essence this was a case about public corruption; is an amount of money paid to a public official after goods/services have been rendered a bribe or a gratuity if there’s no quid pro quo?
You’ll be shocked, SHOCKED at which way the GOP-appointed jurists went.
Third decision: That’s it, there isn’t a third one today, and definitely not a presidential immunity decision.
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Updates with news related to the SCOTUS decisions today will appear at the bottom of this post. This is an open thread.
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UPDATE-1 — 1:15 P.M. —
Bloomberg got the scoop on a decision which wasn’t released today: Supreme Court Poised to Allow Emergency Abortions in Idaho
Kimberly Robinson who is on Bloomberg’s byline, posted this on the dead bird app:
Kimberly Robinson @KimberlyRobinsn
BREAKING: #SCOTUS inadvertently released its opinion in EMTALA abortion case earlier this morning. The Justices are poised to allow emergency abortions in Idaho, suggesting the Court shouldn’t have gotten involved in the early litigation.
Bloomberg’s article is paywalled; you can read similar coverage at The Guardian: US supreme court set to allow emergency abortions in Idaho – report
So…is this accidental leak a head fake of some sort? A means to relieve pressure? Will it come up in the presidential debate if the decision isn’t formally released until Friday?
(h/t community member c-i-v-i-l for the heads up)
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UPDATE-2 — 6:10 P.M. —
The Washington Post has a story now about the briefly posted decision in Moyle v. United States and Idaho v. United States. The decision was accidentally published ahead of schedule and quickly removed from SCOTUS’s website, but not before a copy was obtained.
I’m not going to elaborate on this now because it’s not formally a decision until it is published. When it finally is, it’s going to be a must-read based on the concurrences — the tea leaves to be read ahead of future cases about reproductive health care.
Hmmm….
Two thoughts:
SCOTUS will kick the can on immunity.
What dirt does Bannon have on Johnson?
I think Johnson is more than willing on his own to be a stooge for Bannon and Trump. No blackmail necessary to convince someone motivated by lust for power and ideological/religious extremism.
One box day, they’re saying, which means a smaller number of decisions.
Please let them get presidential immunity out of the way. PLEASE.
How certain are you that this friday is the last day decisions will be released? I have finally internalized not to make assumptions based on norms!
I’m going based on what SCOTUS has indicated, that the decisions they have will be spread out over three days this week.
Am I certain the decisions they will release will contain *all* the cases before them? Nope. But I have to go based on what I have before me.
They must know failing to deliver the presidential immunity decision will result in a shit storm.
Given this court, I presume that since they’ve waited this long to hand down a decision after stalling in taking up the case, there’s going to be a shit storm upon delivery.
Reply to
David F. Snyder
June 26, 2024 at 11:33 am
There was always going to be a shit storm over that decision. It’s just a question of who’s losing their shit.
Vis a vis Alito’s recent absence, does he have any known medical conditions?
Other than being a raging lunatic asshole, you mean?
As that’s, to my mind, a given – yes.
It’s none of the peasant’s business.
/s
You know what’s the most AMAZING kick in the teeth about Snyder v. United States?
Kavanaugh wrote it — the guy whose beaucoup debt was paid off and we still don’t know who/what/how/when/why.
Was the debt payment a goddamned gratuity for agreeing to be nominated?
Will Thomas say the hundreds of thousands of dollars in gifts he’s received are just gratuities?
What fucking horseshit. No public servant should receive gratuities, period.
The six conservatives on the SCOTUS now count on Congress—House and Senate—being unable to pass any legislation that restricts or sets restrictions on the SCOTUS.
The six conservatives continue to write opinions like Kavanaugh’s almost daring Congress to restrict them, but knowing Congress is unable to.
“The six conservatives on the SCOTUS now count on Congress—House and Senate—being unable to pass any legislation that restricts or sets restrictions on the SCOTUS.”
Indeed, but not for lack of [some] trying.
Yesterday:
“ WASHINGTON, DC – Today, Representatives Jamie Raskin (MD-08) and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (NY-14) introduced the High Court Gift Ban Act to prohibit Supreme Court justices from receiving gifts valued at more than $50, marking a significant step towards restoring faith and integrity in the embattled Roberts Court. ”
https://raskin.house.gov/2024/6/raskin-ocasio-cortez-introduce-legislation-imposing-gift-ban-on-supreme-court-justices
As far as I can tell, they’ve just handed down an instruction manual on how to do it “legally,” absent the phrase “… and don’t leave an email trail.” And, as you point out, the implicit intro “Here’s how we do it.”
Greed and grifting behavior acceptable to 6 on the Supreme Court.
So, how does one indicate that one might deliver a gratuity should the public official act in one’s favor.
Also, too, this guts a busload of corporate governance restrictions as to bribery both here and abroad. I guess I can throw out that chunk of my compliance training.
“Gratuities” my ass. They’re fucking bribes! Well done Justice Jackson for not pulling any punches in the dissent.
Thank you for that reminder about Kavanaugh’s miraculous financial recovery. I hope someone remembers it when it’s possible to investigate his background before he was confirmed.
No statute of limitations on impeachable offenses, IIRC.
Why can’t Senate investigate him now? Of course Durban won’t for some reason investigate Thomas & Alito, so why Kav?
His own Gym Jordan ignored subpoena, what would Johnson do if Gym was charged? Order J6ers to attack the the DOJ?
My wag is that the presidential immunity decision comes on Friday, the day after the first debate. I just can’t see Roberts letting that cat out of the bag on Thursday morning of the evening debate.
Yes, and on one hand that makes sense.
Yeah, and I think they dump not just the immunity decision but the next two most challenging decisions with it to muddle the entire reaction by the public.
Agree. Releasing the immunity decision prior to the debate, no matter which way it goes, would scramble all of the preparation. And talk about an elephant in the room (and perhaps a very large donkey).
Same with the abortion cases. Not before the debate when TFG’s nominees will be center-stage. Each of them wants only 8 companions on the Court and releasing the bad decisions before the debate might mean more than 8 companions.
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Why would they even rule on it? They’ve already given us the middle finger so why would they care? Are we going to revolt and would they care if we did?
I’m bracing for them tossing the Chevron deference.
This keeps me up at night.
Coming from Coffee, that’s a big deal, as it were.
;)
LOL!
100%. The made-up “major questions doctrine” was just a way station on the path to blowing up the core principle of administrative law.
There is another SCOTUS decision we await that is of a piece with the dismantling of ad law, Jarkesy v SEC. At issue is whether a defendant in an SEC proceeding is entitled to a jury trial but the strict legal issue has to do with the non-delegation doctrine with respect to the appointment of ALJs that hear these cases. Should the Court, as is likely, rule for Jarkesy, it would eviscerate the SEC’s public administrative procedure program which accounts for the overwhelming majority of SEC enforcement cases.
yep…in any other year, this would be the “big decision” but with auto coups and stealing of government nuclear secrets it’s taken a back seat…
For the numerologists and demonologists among us, Snyder was interpreting a subdivision of section 666 of title 18 (6 times 3) of the US Code. The 6 members of the majority gave 6 reasons to support their view of 666.
So, just to clarify:
Quid Pro Quo = illegal bribery
Quo…Quid = perfectly acceptable gratuity for services rendered.
I think it’s quid post aliquid — something after something.
Why, one would never work harder for a client in order to obtain a gratuity. Just ask the millions of tipped service workers across the U.S.
The funny thing is that I have no doubt that the conservative majority are lousy tippers!
Most of Kavanaugh’s opinions seem to have been rendered post-liquid—with that liquid being beer.
So awesome that “something after something” translated into Latin that way.
Something after something else (ali :other as in alien)
I’m surprised it didn’t translate as aliquid post aliud.
You accusing all of them of drinking on the job? And here I thought the only alcoholic was Kav.
First in the mifepristone case, and now in Murthy v Missouri, the majority of SCOTUS has reversed the 5th Circuit for allowing a preliminary injunction when the plaintiffs lacked standing – a bedrock principle that all 1st year law students understand.
Will the 5th Circuit learn from these obvious legal errors? Probably not. On a related note, Dick Durbin needs to stop allowing the practice of blue slips. Given that most COA judges are selected from District Court judges, the 5th Circuit will continue to be fucked up for some time by RWNJs because TX, LA, and MS all have 2 GOP US Senators. We should understand by now that if Trump somehow manages to win re-election and the GOP re-takes the Senate, the majority will drop blue slips like a hot potato. Durbin needs to stop bringing balloons to a knife fight.
Agreed.
The issues you cite have all the footprints of members of the Federalist Society.
Steven Calabresi and his co-founders of the Federalist Society in 1982 created a conservative movement that targeted, among other targets, the American Bar Association. This movement was designed to create a reputable alternative to the ABA, among other goals.
The ABA is not the right organization to go after the Federalist Society. Instead, the Democrats should create a new grassroots organization challenging the Federalist Society.
That’s one thing Durbin should be doing.
One was formed in 2001 explicitly as a liberal alternative to the Federalist Society:.
To compete with FedSoc on an even playing field, the issue is not creating it, it’s getting someone to donate a billion dollars to a dark money foundation, easily tappable by the ACS leader.
Oh, and leadership completely uninterested in anything beyond power-mongering results. Yes, it’s a conundrum.
So, I’m thinking I should be grateful to Trump for offering his soul to the energy industry for a billion dollars, because if Trump has that billion dollars, the Federalist Society doesn’t?
I don’t want to live on this planet any more …
Oh, that wasn’t conjecture…it already happened. Per ProPublica:
But please don’t leave the planet…we’d all miss you.
SCOTUS: we can twist any law to protect the elites from criminal accountability. We don’t do that for the rest of you slugs.
Kimberly Robinson (SCOTUS reporter for Bloomberg Law):
“BREAKING: #SCOTUS inadvertently released its opinion in EMTALA abortion case earlier this morning. The Justices are poised to allow emergency abortions in Idaho, suggesting the Court shouldn’t have gotten involved in the early litigation.”
https://x.com/KimberlyRobinsn/status/1806006927022780843
Apparently the opinion was briefly posted on the SCOTUS website and then removed.
Oh hell…I hope someone grabbed the decision.
A bit more here:
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-week/us-supreme-court-poised-to-allow-emergency-abortions-in-idaho
“Bloomberg Law obtained a copy of the opinion that appeared briefly on the court’s website as the justices were issuing two other opinions Wednesday morning. The copy of the opinion isn’t necessarily the final ruling, given that it hasn’t been released.”
Thanks for that. Explains why we haven’t seen it, then, they’re concerned about finality.
Looks like this is the draft decision:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/23-726
I wonder why this was posted to Cornell Law School’s Legal Information Institute when it’s still a draft. Perhaps the LII is set up to automatically grab and post opinions that appear even briefly on the SCOTUS website?
Will be interesting to see whether there are any changes to the final versions of the concurrences/dissents.
That draft has:
“Per Curiam.
“The writs of certiorari before judgment are dismissed as improvidently granted, and the stays entered by the Court on January 5, 2024, are vacated.”
Justice Kagan, with whom Justice Sotomayor joins, and with whom Justice Jackson joins as to Part II, concurring.
Justice Barrett, with whom The Chief Justice and Justice Kavanaugh join, concurring.
Justice Jackson, concurring in part and dissenting in part.
Justice Alito, with whom Justice Thomas joins, and with whom Justice Gorsuch joins as to Parts I and II, dissenting.
Chris Geidner:
https://bsky.app/profile/chrisgeidner.bsky.social/post/3kvtsiwom7c2c
To speculate, the reason is to release it and at least a couple more big ones, along with the Trump Immunity decision, to increase the overall noise level and thus make it more difficult for meaningful analysis to get traction.
The Supreme Court majority might have leaked this opinion for various reasons. But, after Dobbs, that it was posted “inadvertently” is laughable.
ISTR that this happened with Dobbs, also.
Both parties claim the other is corrupt. Maybe they could agree that bribery is bad and pass a law?
I can’t imagine both sides agreeing on what “bribery” is…hell, even the scotus pretends not to know…
You mean like 18 U.S.C. § 666(a)(1)(B) under 18 U.S. Code § 666 – Theft or bribery concerning programs receiving Federal funds?
Wow, I hope they get right on that.
From The Guardian piece Rayne links to, about the paywalled Bloomberg scoop:
Moyle v. United States, No. 23-726, and Idaho v. United States, No. 23-727
[Thank you c-i-v-i-l!]
US supreme court set to allow emergency abortions in Idaho – report
Copy of opinion reinstating lower court’s order reportedly posted briefly on supreme court’s website https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jun/24/israel-fund-us-university-protest-gaza-antisemitism Wed 26 Jun 2024 13.10 EDT // Last modified on Wed 26 Jun 2024 13.26 EDT
Was this a “mistake” or was it leaked, like Dobbs?
Sure seems odd that the only two cases oopsed like this were about abortion. What a coinky-dink.
ADDER:
…
A-yup. Let me point to my X-Files poster: Trust No One.
Whew!
Ty, Harpie.
I immediately thought the same thing yet had to examine my reaction for conspiracy theory.
On the other hand:
“Just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they aren’t after you.”
― Joseph Heller, Catch-22
So, if this is correct, Barrett once again disappoints the crowd that pushed her there.
Certainly not about to go to bat for Barrett, but the one thing that sets her apart from all the other Supremes is that she has been pregnant and given birth. The dangers are not theoretical for her.
Read the Posted Document Bloomberg published a copy of an opinion that appeared briefly on the Supreme Court’s website and seemed to concern an Idaho abortion case. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/06/26/us/politics/moyle-idaho.html June 26, 2024
Also, c-i-v-i-l has a link to Cornell law, above:
https://www.emptywheel.net/2024/06/26/open-thread-scotus-decisions-wednesday-edition/#comment-1056605
Ah. The media is beginning to clue in:
About fucking time.
It’s what Bibi has most in common with Trump.
I swear they’re tag teaming, too, since Gaza has been the one issue which has eaten into youth vote for Biden, and Trump would be more than willing to turn a blind eye to Netanyahu turning Gaza into brownfield.
Both Trump and Netanyahu are under the influence of Roman Abramovich, arguably Putin’s now closest oligarch, and Putin himself.
Team Putin includes Abramovich, Trump, the Kushners and Netanyahu.
A guest essay in the NYT today:
We Are Israelis Calling on Congress to Disinvite Netanyahu https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/26/opinion/congress-netanyahu-gaza-war.html June 26, 2024
Wow. Not just any Israelis making that call and being blunt about Netanyahu’s land clearance:
Remember when we talked about new House Speaker Mike Johnson’s ties to Israel’s far right: https://www.emptywheel.net/2023/10/25/leave-the-rest-to-mike-johnson-republicans-prepare-to-elect-key-jan6-figure-as-speaker/#comment-1022104
More about that:
https://www.emptywheel.net/2023/10/31/after-hounding-hunter-biden-about-taxes-for-months-mike-johnson-coddles-richer-tax-cheats/#comment-1023308
From:
During a Trip to Israel, Mike Johnson Connected With Far-Right Extremists While there he denied Palestinians were “oppressed in these areas.” https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2023/11/mike-johnson-israel-extremists/ David Corn 11/3/23
The February 2020 trip was paid for by 12 Tribe Film Foundation.
Jim JORDAN and their wives were also on this trip.
Also, here:
https://www.emptywheel.net/2023/10/31/after-hounding-hunter-biden-about-taxes-for-months-mike-johnson-coddles-richer-tax-cheats/#comment-1023308
During a Trip to Israel, Mike Johnson Connected With Far-Right Extremists While there he denied Palestinians were “oppressed in these areas.” https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2023/11/mike-johnson-israel-extremists/ David Corn 11/3/23
ABELOW: “online warriors”…
Mike FLYNN: “digital soldiers”
No surprises here, imho.
“AIPAC’s political action committee donated a total of $104,000 to Johnson last year, with the majority of payments coming since the start of the Gaza war and after Johnson was elected House Speaker in late October. That’s more than four times the roughly $25,000 the group donated to his last congressional campaign, when it was also his top donor, as The Intercept previously reported.”
https://theintercept.com/2024/01/20/israel-aipac-house-mike-johnson/
Speaking of AIPAC:
Here are five takeaways from Jamaal Bowman’s loss. The congressman, who lost to George Latimer, was the first “squad” member to fall, in a painful defeat for the Democratic left. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/25/nyregion/bowman-latimer-takeaways-primary.html
Published June 25, 2024 Updated June 26, 2024, 2:03 p.m. ET
Maybe for the same reason pro-Israel groups elsewhere are clamoring for Bibi and his government to end its unrestrained war in Gaza.
https://nltimes.nl/2024/06/26/dutch-israeli-lobby-group-says-netanyahu-strategy-failing-wants-gaza-war-end
This was probably posted on Rayne’s previous post, but is relevant here, too.
Exclusive: Israeli documents show expansive government effort to shape US discourse around Gaza war As the Gaza war rages, Israeli funds target US college campuses and push to redefine antisemitism in US law https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jun/24/israel-fund-us-university-protest-gaza-antisemitism Mon 24 Jun 2024 07.00 EDT
Regarding the “debate” tomorrow night, will Biden make any comments about Trump’s handling of classified documents? Or will he feel constrained by the on-going criminal case so that he won’t comment?
The photos that SC Smith has been including as Exhibits speak volumes. But how many people are aware of the photos?
Joe Biden the lawyer is not likely to comment on the facts of a case still pending.
Gratuitous
No surprise the 6 of 9
jumped into their MAGA line
After all it’s by design
the way their greed is always fine
For them there’s no incongruity
in accepting a hefty gratuity
It fits well with their vacuity
and their ethical promiscuity
It’s just another inside job
like a bank clerk for the mob
paid after a heist with a thingamabob
and the status of a grand hobnob
Or a perfect phone call and a favor
with a context and a flavor
Something simple here to savor:
What’s the offer, what’s the waiver
What about a data dump
You know the smear jobs done for Trump
Smirnov’s not the only one to jump
or to be caught inside a corrupt slump
Kavanaugh wrote it is not a crime for politicians to “accept gratuities … that may be given as a token of appreciation after the official act.”
Bribe – money given to a politician before a favor. Gratuity – money given to a politician after a favor.
Rewarding criminal behavior. And this from 6 on the Supreme Court.
Letters from an American: 6/26/24
https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/june-26-2024 Heather Cox Richardson:
Reminder LOUDERMILK gave suspicious “tours” of the CAPITOL on 1/5/21
and texted with MEADOWS on 1/6/21 during the insurrection.
1] GOP leaders back Steve Bannon’s fight against conviction for defying Jan. 6 panel The Republican leaders voted to make their determination the formal position of the House. https://www.politico.com/news/2024/06/25/bannon-johnson-jan-6-conviction-00165009 06/25/2024 11:27 PM EDT Updated: 06/26/2024 08:45 AM EDT
2] LOUDERMILK AMICUS for BANNON https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/23/23A1129/315819/20240626135248649_23A1129%20Amicus%20Brief%20ISO%20Application%20for%20Emergency%20Stay.pdf
And, as Richardson also writes:
Former J6 Committee member Republican Adam KINZINGER endorses BIDEN:
https://x.com/AdamKinzinger/status/1805915590525096089
6:46 AM · Jun 26, 2024