Aileen Cannon Blames Jack Smith That She Fucked Over Stan Woodward
Aileen Cannon has frothed up the usual suspects with her latest order, in which she suggests that Jack Smith is being inconsistent about his approach to grand jury secrecy.
In closing, the Court deems it necessary to express concern over the Special Counsel’s treatment of certain sealed materials in this case. In two separate filings related to sealing, the Special Counsel stated, without qualification, that he had no objection to full unsealing of previously sealed docket entries related to allegations of prosecutorial misconduct [ECF Nos. 423, 464]. In light of that repeated representation, and in the absence of any defense objection, the Court unsealed those materials consistent with the general presumption in favor of public access [ECF No. 472 (unsealing ECF Nos. 101, 115–116, 118)]. Subsequently, in the course of adjudicating continuing redaction disputesleading to this Order, the Court inquired about those nowunsealed filings, which contain material as to which the Special Counsel has voiced (and continues to voice) objections to unsealing [ECF No. 267–268, 294, 350, 369, 511 (opposing public disclosure of potential witness names, ancillary names, and grand jury matters); see ECF Nos. 506, 533, 542]. 4 In response to those inquiries, counsel explained that the Special Counsel took the position on unsealing in order to publicly and transparently refute defense allegations of prosecutorial misconduct raised in pretrial motions [ECF No. 542 p. 67]. 5 Fair enough. But nowhere in that explanation is there any basis to conclude that the Special Counsel could not have defended the integrity of his Office while simultaneously preserving the witness-safety and Rule6(e) concerns he has repeatedly told the Court, and maintains to this day, are of serious consequence, and which the Court has endeavored with diligence to accommodate in its multiple Orders on sealing/redaction [e.g., ECF Nos. 295, 361, 438, 440, 474]. The Court is disappointed in these developments. The sealing and redaction rules should be applied consistently and fairly upon a sufficient factual and legal showing. And parties should not make requests that undermine any prior representations or positions except upon full disclosure to the Court and appropriate briefing.
3 In addition, subject to further unsealing as becomes necessary, this Order marks the resolution of the limited disclosure issues transferred to this Court by the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia [ECF No. 512 (sealed)].
4 The Court also notes that the Superseding Indictment contains numerous quotes from grand jury testimony, the balance of which the Special Counsel continues to maintain require sealing under Rule 6(e) [ECF No. 85]. [links added]
Ultimately, this is a complaint from Aileen Cannon that she made Stan Woodward look bad.
This kerfuffle stems from two things.
First, Jack Smith overproduced discovery to Donald Trump and his co-defendants compared to normal defendants, providing most grand jury transcripts from the start, rather than in conjunction with and timed to select witnesses testifying. Under Jencks, he would normally not be required to turn that over until when witnesses testified, but instead, he provided a guy who has serially ginned up threats against witnesses means with which to do so from the start.
Second, Cannon has twice intervened out of course, reading reporting based on leaks and deciding it is her job to expose the underlying dispute.
In this case, it arises from an order she issued days after the superseding indictment, requiring both sides to submit details about a claim reported in the press but not yet raised by Stan Woodard that Jay Bratt had threatened Stan Woodward in an attempt to force Walt Nauta to flip on Donald Trump.
THIS MATTER comes before the Court upon news reports of allegations of potential misconduct related to the investigation of this case and related reports of a review by the United States District Court for the District of Columbia. The Court refers herein to reported allegations raised by Stanley E. Woodward, counsel for Waltine Nauta, against Jay I. Bratt, Counselor to the Special Prosecutor, concerning statements made by Mr. Bratt to Mr. Woodward regarding a judicial application submitted by Mr. Woodward. In service of the Court’s independent obligation to protect the integrity of this judicial proceeding, and to promote transparency in the Court’s oversight of this case, it is ORDERED AND ADJUDGED as follows:
1. On or before August 11, 2023, Counsel for Waltine Nauta shall file under seal with the Court a complete and current account of the accuracy, substance, and status of the reported allegations, and shall attach to the submission any pertinent written materials on the subject, including any materials submitted to the United States District Court for the District of Columbia.
2. Similarly, on or before the same date of August 11, 2023, the Special Counsel shall file under seal with the Court a complete and current report on the status of the referenced allegations, attaching any written materials on the subject in the possession or custody of the Special Counsel or the United States Department of Justice. [my emphasis]
In response to Judge Cannon’s sua sponte intervention, Smith submitted several filings — including almost 200 pages showing that after Trump got warned he was going to be charged, he ginned up a bunch of misconduct allegations, including the one that got shared with the press. Those filings show Trump abusing the legal process, not Smith abusing his prosecutorial position.
These are grand jury proceedings about the investigation, not grand jury testimony of witnesses (though it describes the circumstances of certain witness testimony, including Margo Martin and Kash Patel). This filings show that the public claims Trump associates were making didn’t match the substance of a second dispute that happened before James Boasberg last summer.
The other filings were similar attempts by Trump to make allegations of misconduct (in conjunction with motions to dismiss) that he didn’t have to back publicly, but also to expose grand jury testimony. Smith’s opposition to releasing those materials stemmed from a justified intent not to allow Trump to abuse Smith’s expansive discovery to engage in witness tampering.
Of course, the problem would never have happened if Aileen Cannon hadn’t done something inappropriate in the first place, deciding to chase Fox News allegations in a court of law.
Cannon’s complaint amounts to a complaint that her initial intervention did not provide Trump an opportunity to threaten witnesses.
This is not the first time a little transparency revealed what a hack Cannon is being. In closely related developments last year, for example, the government made it clear she already had notice of Stan Woodward’s potential conflicts when she delayed proceedings for a month pretending it was new.
Ultimately, by the time all this gets unsealed, we’ll be able to reconstruct how Cannon’s serial attempts to put a thumb on the scale actually had the effect of making Woodward (and Trump’s lawyers) look dishonest. It’ll take time to do that, of course, which is likely why Cannon is wailing now, before we can reconstruct it.
She has made this charade of a legal proceeding into a personal fued with Smith that would make a HS sophomore debate team member blush.
I”m surprised it does not close with “Nanny nanny boo boo.”
Hi Don! How are you? I have a little news for anybody that thinks this is unusual. Sometimes you just get on the wrong side of a judge, especially federal judges, and it goes like this. Was the substantive part of her ruling still okay? Yes, it was sufficient, even if not perfect.
By now, I think your point, repeatedly made, that it is worse than useless to expect the law and attempts to enforce it to rescue us from the predations of a Donald Trump is incontrovertible. Is it fair to characterize your responses to Cannon’s conduct of this whole case with your phrase, “sufficient, even if not perfect”, i.e., business as usual in federal courts, so, get over it?
The public is being exposed to much more of this business-as-usual than usual because it is Trump in the dock and it (we) is finding it exceedingly frustrating having its noses rubbed in it that delay of accountability to the law is an option whose availability is (surprise!) limited mostly by the money one has or can raise to purchase the services of attorneys to keep turning over those legal garbage cans as one flees down the alley. I think we get it that those garbage cans are available to us too, should we need them and can afford to have someone turn them over for us. Of course, it all ends eventually in one kind of exhaustion or another. In this case the delays just have to last through election day, when the decisive battle for power will commence. For me it is not so much that I expect or even hope to see the law triumph over politics; it is my fear that this business-as-usual in the federal courts is enabling politics to put the notion of justice in the shade as some kind of arcane relic produced in a parallel universe and irrelevant to the moment in this one. The political process has manifested the law and its business-as-usual and is the means by which it can be changed if we think it needs it. I wonder if, when this moment passes, we will think that it does or have the luxury of doing so.
Everything you write also applies to IRS. The IRS audits those that have little resources but those that have resources can hide or move their funds and income to anywhere or keep cases open forever or settle for a minuscule of their liability. Trump supposedly has been caught double dipping to get a $100 million benefit, but that’s peanuts to let’s say Apple, etal having the ability to move their income to low tax countries.
Great point and well said, Bawiggans. I love the two visuals you give us- rubbing our noses in it and flipping over the trash cans while fleeing down an alley. Well done!
This post is about Trump in Cannon’s court and the general citizenry being a witness to the sh-tty yet legal stuff the rich get away with in court. We knew it theoretically but we haven’t seen up close in real life. And it f-cking stinks!
Also, it seems a major (possibly fatal) problem for the American justice system that a president who attempted a coup, and is basically threatening another if he loses, can’t even be brought to trial before he has the chance to run again (and if he wins, obtain the power to dismiss any federal cases against him). True, the ultimate issue is the fact that at least 45-ish % of the electorate is willing to vote for Trump nonetheless, and a sizeable percentage won’t care enough about democracy to turn out at all. But that doesn’t negate the rightful criticism Cannon is receiving. She is abusing her discretion and deserves absolutely no benefit of the doubt by this point. (She arguably never deserved it from the moment she granted Trump’s request for a special master to review the seized Mar-a-Lago materials.) It isn’t unreasonable to wonder whether it’s problematic that there isn’t any recourse for the DoJ against her blatant partisan hackery.
re: the sh-tty yet legal stuff the rich get away with in court
Good book on this: Untouchable: How Powerful People Get Away with It by Elie Honig. I highly recommend it. Trump is in there a lot as are some New York mob characters (and Honig helpfully points out the parallels).
Dear Pluralist, are you complaining that the “rich” get different treatment or that they can afford better lawyers? There is a pretty big difference there, if you did not know. Also, Elie Honig is a self promoting mediocre TV lawyer, at best.
I assure the public that bmaz is talking about run-of-the-mill federal cases when he says there’s nothing to see here. In high-profile, time-sensitive cases like this one, federal courts generally move with dispatch and do not monkey-wrench the process on frivolous pretexts. Of course, it is worth reminding everyone that bmaz practices in Arizona where high-profile cases are vanishingly scarce.
No, I an NOT talking only about “run of the mill” federal cases. Vary much not. This happens not orly on criminal cases, but civil ones too.
And the only thing “time sensitive” about this case is that people like you think they are magically owed a trial before the election. You are not owed anything by the federal judicial system.
By the way, the District of Arizona is slightly larger that SDFL. Neither are NY, DC or CA, but there is no more likelihood of “high profile cases” there than here. You are making stuff up because you are fixated on this case. Thanks for playing though.
“You are not owed anything by the federal judicial system.”
Evidently, that includes justice. As Lenny Bruce put it, “The only justice in the halls of justice is in the halls.”
‘Twas ever thus as reading about Thomas Jefferson’s legal vendetta against Aaron Burr just reminded me.
Smoke, that is a load.
Re: ” You are not owed anything by the federal judicial system.”
Seeing as it is paid for with our taxes, yes indeed we are. Fair trials, for one thing. Judges who don’t put their thumbs on the scales of justice, for another.
“Seeing as it is paid for with our taxes, yes indeed we are. Fair trials, for one thing. Judges who don’t put their thumbs on the scales of justice, for another.”
Lol, in Texas, “fair trial” and “justice” does not even require your defense attorney being awake during your trial. On a death penalty case. Listen, despite whinging like yours, Cannon is not even close to the worst District judge out there. You just don’t like her. Cannon has done several negative things in this case, but none all that far over the line (although cumulatively they are adding up), and all the hyperbolic claims are a bit much.
Bmaz: Way to respond to some comment that existed only in your imagination. If Cannon never existed, my point would be just as valid (or not); it has nothing to do with her or any other specific situation; it has to do with getting good, as in “fair,” results for our tax dollars. And just because some crap court somewhere defines “fair trial” in some idiotic manner does not mean that that *is* the definition of “fair trial” which the rest of us are forced to adhere to in our thinking about the judiciary.
If I pay for a new Miata, I shouldn’t get a 50 year old rusty Karmann Ghia, which of course is still vastly better than the wobbly bicycles that most of the rest of the world has to endure.
Lol, what? The comment existed because you made it. There are more Karmann Ghias around at this point, rusty or otherwise, than Miatas. My point is you seem to have little experience or clue about federal courts and their judges, you just micro-focus and obsess oaths case and judge. That won’t take you very far.
Her filing basically says “I stopped this trial for like three months in order to determine that Trump didn’t provide a valid reason for his his redactions. The SC did, but they should stop being correct because it is hard to agree with them.”
About 2/3 the way down in this post Marcy states:
“…(though it describes the circumstances of certain witness testimony, including Margo Martin and Kash Patel)…”
That’s the second time in the past couple of weeks that I’ve been reminded about Margo Martin (who was also at Bedminster in July 2021 when Mark Meadows’ biographers were there.)
The other time was when she was listed as one of the people who attended the Manhattan trial to provide support.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/09/nyregion/trump-hush-money-trial-allies.html
“Trump Summons Entourage for Moral Support During Mortifying Testimony” – May 9, 2024, Jonathan Swan and Maggie Haberman
And Kash is there today.
So are Bernie Kerik and Dershowitz. Only one missing is Rudy. Maybe he is still hung over from his birthday.
Where is Jason Miller, the scumbag of all scumbags
He is likely contemplating his own future, given the gift of being served with his indictment in Arizona, and figures he’ll be in courtrooms soon enough.
Rudy is probably still licking his wound from being served an AZ indictment at his 80th bday bash. A reality his denies happened. Liars are gonna lie.
You forgot the glamorous Chuck Zito, “… a man with jet-black hair in an Elvis-style swoop…” and former leader-of-the-pack.
(thanx & a tip of the hat to BPH)
Trump is a Gorgan: without a fawning crowd, he ceases to exist.
Hail Hail fire and snow
Call the Angel, we will go
Far away, for to see
Friendly Angel come to me
That’s from memory from the Star Trek episode with the evil lawyer Gorgon, I apologize to everyone for reliving my youth here but I got triggered
Sympathy, because that was a very triggery episode.
(Also, does anyone besides me remember that Gorgan the “Friendly Angel” was played by Melvin Belli, the lawyer?)
Yes PJ, I remember. Belli actually was one of the lawyers for a group of plaintiffs, including my mother, in the early tobacco litigation (that eventually led to the warning on the side if cigarette packs, though not much else). Interesting guy.
This is the only episode of TOS that I’ve only seen once. The station we got that showed the series in the 70s and 80s (Channel 39 out of Dallas) never showed it (presumably because of the “Satanic” elements) so I never even realized that it existed until I went off to college.
Wait. So Cannon thinks she can fire Smith. Can she?
No.
Cannon, manga cum laud, U of M. Not much to tell there. Quarter finalist in moot court competition doesn’t sound like someone lacking formal logic skills. However by way of Columbia and indirectly Cuba, her mothers origin, offers some clues. Let’s call them cultural. It’s best to appreciate Trumpism across other cultures.
Every Cuban who fled communism was a Cuban who did not flee fascism.
(I was a freshman in high school when they began coming, and some came to us. We were told they were fleeing to freedom. It required a few years for me to learn that they had no interest in that.)
I wrote a piece on what can happen when the foundational grievance of the Cuban-exile community, Castro’s property nationalization, gets overlaid with years of Koch-funded propaganda. Not just at the luxury-legal seminars. Also at the flavor of Federalist Society served up specifically for South Florida gatherings. Say what you will about Charlie Koch, he’s a master propogandist. That’s how we got this Supreme Court. The piece is too long to drop here. I have it tied to a Xitter post as a PDF.
https://x.com/dozer2222/status/1792666259089154363
Thank you!
A must read for those seeking to understand Judge Cannon and her rulings.
Many thanks for taking the time to read it. Any and all are welcome to tear it apart so I can keep rebuilding into a better working hypothesis. Sooner or later it could rattle the right trees to shake out more receipts.🤞
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I sent the link to someone w extensive history/background in the deep waters of all that. Thanks for posting.
Thank you!
By preponderance of the evidence, Cannon is pro-Maga.
She is a Trumpist, the same as Alito and Thomas.
It is pretty fucking obvious.
Why do we continue go around in circles?
It’s pretty easy to avoid accountability when you have the ability to own the accountants.
Jack Smith and his team of thoroughbred lawyers are in it to win it. And as much smoke as Cannon helps defense put up, slow walking a case involving hundreds of US national security documents that Donald Trump might as well have wiped his ass with and hung out by the pool at Mar-a-Lago makes her look either corrupted or stupid or both.
This trial not getting underway before the election may be instrumental in Trump getting access to more such secrets he could barter and sell; so to me, high and mighty Judge Cannon is aiding and abetting crimes against the United States.
People like Cannon and the gaggles of miscreants who show up at his Manhattan trial are increasingly obviously on the wrong side of American jurisprudence when it comes to the former guy with the 88 criminal charges we are waiting to be decided in US courts of law.
“…so to me, high and mighty Judge Cannon is aiding and abetting crimes against the United States.”
Oh, come on.
I tried to give Judge Cannon the benefit of the doubt when she was first assigned this case. However, after reading some of her responses to filings and motions, my personal conclusion is that she is way over her head, in terms of the complexity and nuance of the case and like many uncertain people, tries to cover it up with brash conclusions and ridiculous, speculative jury instructions. The ruling appellate court should re-assign this case.
Right you are, Zinsky. Cannon’s request for two ridiculous alternative jury instructions–both embarrassingly favorable to Jabba the Trump–months or even years before the jury is empaneled, was not just another day at the courthouse as bmaz suggests. And don’t forget her appointment of a special master to determine which documents could even be looked at by our intelligence agencies. Bmaz really should spend more of his time in relatively harmless pursuits, like blasting prairie dogs with his trusty Winchester.
Ah yes, and you comment from your vast experience with federal judges I guess. The request for specific jury instructions that far ahead of trial was indeed unusual, but not harmful. Indeed I think quite the opposite because it provides a window into where both sides were going on the somewhat unique issue, and that is a good thing so as brilliant minds like yours can weigh in ahead of time. Hopefully Marcy and not you, but still. So, in net, while quite unusual, it was not necessarily a bad thing. But you wouldn’t have the breadth of experience to ever think about that, would you?
As for what “could be looked at by intelligence agencies”, you seriously think they had not seen them? Where do you think the documents originated?? That is a silly statement.
Take your Winchester baloney and shove it. People can differ on their respective views, but I am not the guy you want to get in a pissing match with on a subject I have 35 years of experience in and you, by all appearances, read things on the internet and mouth off.
43 years a litigator and in litigation oversight. 50-50 NYS and federal. Mostly civil, admittedly. But more than enough to know what you won’t admit: that the 11th Circuit’s lightening-fast and necessary double reversal of Cannon was as common an occurrence in federal court as Haley’s Comet. Only a blockhead defense lawyer would give her the benefit of the doubt after that. So please confine your pissing to the latrine, buckaroo.
How about you take your supposed civil experience and piss off “Mr. Litigator”. “Litigation” is what lawyers who couldn’t find a trial courtroom with a GPS device do.
What will be Jack Smith’s revenge?
He must have something up his sleeve.
Why are you spouting this kind of nonsense? Stop it. Smith is obligated by oath and by law to investigate and prosecute crimes, not seek revenge for any slight he believes may have been inflicted on him.
Okay
Jack ‘s “Next move” is that better?
What do you think.
To Bmaz: I retired from practice several years ago. When I was practicing law, I never had the time to play one-upmanship on a blog with a soi-disant fellow practitioner. But you sir, though by your own description a trial man who never leaves the courthouse, are ready 24-7 to mix it up with whomever calls out one of your unsupported, dyspeptic outbursts. I’m guessing that you’ve been a little short of clients for the last couple of years, pardner. But don’t despair. I’ve heard tell that Rudy Giuliani just rode into town on the lookout for an Arizona trial man with time on his hands. So giddyup, and lasso ’em before it’s too late.
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[bmaz: yes, Stacy is a retired attorney.]
Rayne–Thank you for reposting my item and for enlightening the always available bmaz about my status as a retired attorney. But I wonder what you mean about my posting under the wrong name. I always post as Stacy (Male) and other items were posted under the same article without delay. Please explain what you mean.
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Thanks
Marcy, as your records will reflect, I am a monthly contributor to your blog. As such, I resent your hall monitor’s editing out my totally non-obscene and directly pertinent response to bmaz’s latest primal utterance. If it is not restored forthwith, I will cancel all future contributions.
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Lol.
Still laughing, smart guy?
Yes. Find a different hobby than me, and a substantive one at that. This blog is not a playground for you and your petty personal picquet.
LOL. Commenting here is a contact sport, evidenced by your own comments as well as those of others.
I’m sure your contributions are gracefully accepted. But you bought a ticket, you don’t own the ride, regardless of what your beef is.
Sort of off topic but site-function-related: why do some comments have the “reply” option and some don’t?
There is a depth limit on replies. At a certain depth the site becomes unreadable on mobile, I assume the limit is to prevent that.
Ah, ok, thank you
After the fourth reply to a comment, the ziggurat stops. You can reply to the fourth by prefacing your comment with the name of the commenter to whom you wish to reply and the time of their comment.
See this overview at the end of my Mother’s Day post for more info.
ABC News has a story up about how, after Trump was informed of the subpoena for all documents with classified markings on them, the SCO suspected that he wanted to put boxes back into the storage room without that being visible on camera, since he had previously had some boxes removed from the storage room and Trump would have realized that was recorded on camera.
Yoohoo, Judge Cannon! It’s an open and shut case. Now, get on with it. https://jabberwocking.com/even-yet-still-more-classified-documents-found-at-mar-a-lago/
FWIW, Kevin is a longtime friend, but he is dead wrong about the simplicity of trying this case. Cannon may be problematic as to the delay she has occasioned, but it is not an easy case and certainly not so open and shut that it could be tried tomorrow and over by Memorial Day.
The documents might be the strongest of the federal cases, but it’s not easy, or a slam dunk.
That Cannon needs full-blown hearings – instead of doing what many judges do, decide an obvious motion from the bench – seems to be her shtick. What appears to be considered delay is impossible to appeal or overturn. But her process seems to consistently work in Donald Trump’s favor.
Yes, it does. And it is wrong, but happens every day. This case is not the only one in the federal system.
Rayne,
Got it on the emoji, and my handle is henceforth dozer2222.
Thanks, and apologies.
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Again, find another hobby than attacking me. You don’t know me for squat, but accusing me of Trumpism is one of the more ignorant things I have ever seen on this blog, and I have been here from the start. Also, screw off and get lost.
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QED. No one accused you of Trumpism, Sparky. I implied that you share his compulsion to project your own defects onto other (and smarter) people. Since you mention your long service to the blog, I seem to recall your being blocked from posting on emptywheel because of your insufferably rude and baseless commentary. Marcy must have relented for some reason. Did you promise to be a good boy?
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Rayne, please identify the outsider doing this and not insinuate it is me. There ought be at least minimal acknowledgement of years of loyalty. Or, maybe not. Let this blog acknowledge history or show that you shit on the same.
I thought it was interesting that in their response to Trump’s Motion to Dismiss The Indictment Based on Prosecutorial Misconduct and Due Process Violations (Docket #562), the section replying to “Alleged Preindictment Delay” doesn’t make any mention of the extent to which the 10 month delay between the Aug ’22 search and the June ’23 original indictment was the result of time wasted by the legally baseless Special Master process that he was responsible for initiating.
Politico has a story about how Trump’s attorneys discovered four documents marked “classified” in his personal bedroom, four months after the FBI raid on Mar-a-Lago. I wonder if they’ve even found them all by now. [edit: hollywood beat me to it, in the comment above!]
and meanwhile in Cannon’s courtroom, Woodward pressed his case that Bratt tried to influence him to get Nauta to flip by dangling a judgeship.
According to Politico, Judge Cannon asked Harbach to calm down.
Does defendant have the right in the Cannon case to waive jury and have judge decide, as they do in state courts ? Would Smith have any recourse ?
Yes, but only if the prosecutor consents and the court agrees. The prosecution will never agree here.
I agree and, moreover, don’t see why the defense would want to do it at this point.
See, we can agree!
Adding, I do think Trump et. al would be thrilled to have it solely in Cannon’s hands. But that is not going to happen, so their wish, if so, is irrelevant.
I agree with you again. Bmaz, this could be the beginning of a…uh, let’s not get ahead of ourselves.