Exp[o]rt Reports: When David Weiss Claimed Keith Ablow’s Sawdust Was Hunter Biden’s Cocaine

As Garrett Ziegler was confessing, again, to have accessed a password-protected phone backup (for which Hunter Biden is suing him), he described that this is a photo of a photo in the office of then-still licensed psychiatrist Keith Ablow, which Ablow sent Hunter Biden, explaining that the photo came from an expert carpenter who was trying to kick a coke habit.

Ziegler was even kind enough to include the June 2, 2022 extract date of the iPhone XS iTunes backup where he found the picture, even while bitching of the dishonor and incompetence of David Weiss and his team.

David Weiss says the picture isn’t one of sawdust passed on by Keith Ablow. He says it’s a picture that Hunter Biden took himself of “apparent cocaine” sometime in late 2018.

During November and December 2018, the defendant took multiple photographs of videos apparent cocaine, crack cocaine, and drug paraphernalia.

Weiss doesn’t provide a date for the photo. But he says it came from an iPhone 11 backup stored to iTunes, though he’s not telling whether he found it in an iTunes backup in Hunter’s iCloud account obtained in September 2019, or an iTunes backup found on a laptop attributed to Hunter Biden obtained in December 2019.

iTunes Backup (iPhone 11) – Production 1

Now, perhaps it’s a good thing that David Weiss didn’t know he was (at least per Ziegler, who — bizarrely — has more credibility than the people who have a stack of warrants and lots more metadata) falsely claiming that this picture depicted cocaine. Perhaps that means he didn’t breach Hunter’s privileged communications with Ablow and read what the then still-licensed psychiatrist had to say to his client.

But he has just made the competence of his team’s forensic analysis an issue, and done so in a filing in which Derek Hines appears to be claiming they don’t need any expert forensic reports.

In the motion to compel to which Hines was responding, Abbe Lowell had claimed that Weiss had not turned over any expert reports.

Mr. Biden requested the ongoing production of all materials subject to disclosure under FRCP 16(a)(1)(A), (B), and (D). (See DE 65.) Mr. Biden notes that his October 2023 Rule 16 requests also cover any expert reports that the prosecution intends to rely upon at trial; to date, however, no expert reports or materials have been identified or produced to defense counsel.

The prosecution produced a Delaware state police case file, which includes a summary of an interview Mr. Biden gave police in October 2018 and other information about the purchase, discard, and recovery of the firearm, as well as evidence photos from its case file. The prosecution also produced an ATF case file that has additional information about the firearm and statements about its purchase. Mr. Biden asks the Court to order the prosecution to either (1) confirm no further responsive documents or communications exists in its possession (which includes material in the possession of all relevant government agencies and officials), or (2) produce the requested documents (including any expert reports) and, if the prosecution believes any responsive documents are protected from disclosure, identify those documents and the reasons why the prosecution believes they need not be disclosed.

Not true!, responded Hines in the filing where he appears to have claimed a photo of sawdust taken by a Keith Ablow client was instead a photo of cocaine taken by Hunter Biden.

Hines described that the prosecution has provided two expert reports: that of the FBI chemist who — five years after the gun was seized — found cocaine residue in the pouch in which the gun was found, but didn’t look for fingerprints or try to date the cocaine.

The defendant does not allege any Rule 16 materials are missing from the productions other than one assertion that, “to date, however, no expert reports or materials have been identified or produced to defense counsel.” ECF 83 at p 6. He is incorrect. On November 7, 2023, the government produced to the defendant an expert report prepared by an FBI chemist who analyzed the cocaine discovered on the defendant’s brown leather pouch that had contained his gun.1 In this same production, the government also produced an expert report prepared by an agent related to the interstate nexus of the gun charged in the indictment.2 In addition to these reports, the government produced other materials for these two experts, including CVs, as well as a CV for an additional expert.3 By contrast, the defendant has failed to provide any discovery, including any expert discovery.

In addition, prosecutors provided the CV for the witness who’ll attest the gun had a nexus to interstate commerce and the CV for … Hines isn’t describing what kind of witness that is.

But there are at least four reports I expected to see that are missing:

  • The FBI agent John Paul Mac Isaac calls “Matt” who (at least per JPMI, who like Ziegler might be as reliable as Weiss at this point) described trying to boot up the laptop on December 9, 2019, four days before the known warrant to access the laptop
  • The FBI Computer Analysis and Response Team analyst named Mike Waski, from whom Josh Wilson claims to have obtained the laptop after he had already obtained the laptop four days earlier from JPMI
  • The FBI CART analyst, Eric Overly, who actually imaged the hard drive, which Gary Shapley notes happened after December 13; there may be a different CART analyst who imaged the laptop itself who would be on the hook for another expert report
  • A March 31, 2020 email about the completeness of the disk image that JPMI had done, which prosecutors were withholding from any agents who might testify at trial but which Shapley has kindly informed us exists
  • Any analysis “computer guy” did after October 22, 2020, which is when the FBI realized they had never bothered to check when files had been added to the laptop they had been using for ten months

Those kinds of expert reports are precisely what might have spared poor Senior Assistant Special Counsel Derek Hines from apparently claiming that a photo of a photo of sawdust taken by Keith Ablow is instead a photo of cocaine taken by Hunter Biden.

For example, here’s how Gus Dimitrelos used EXIF data — EXIF data he says he found on most or all of the photos Hunter took — to validate photos to Hunter on the laptop attributed to him.

In this case, Dimitrelos matched the photo to a known iPhone Hunter used and a known location he was at on a particular date and time.

To use photographs to attribute to Hunter Biden cocaine use, those photos are not only going to need to depict cocaine rather than sawdust, but they’re going to need to be accompanied by the kind of forensic data that could prove that a particular phone taking a picture was in Hunter’s hand at the time a picture was taken.

That’s particularly true in this case. Ziegler shows that Ablow texted this photo to Hunter on November 20, 2018.

That happens to be the day when someone first accessed Hunter’s droidhunter account — the one via which his digital life would be packaged up two months later — from a Mac device for the first time after the laptop ultimately shared with the FBI was first logged into Hunter Biden’s iCloud account.

But based on what is available on the public emails, after someone logged into Hunter’s iCloud account with a new laptop on October 21, 2018, it was weeks before a new Mac device logged into his Gmail accounts, starting with a November 16 attempt to log into Rosemont Seneca that was rejected by Google, followed by a reset of the droidhunter account and a login into that on November 20, followed by a login into Rosemont Seneca on November 24. Not only did those attempts come in the midst of a bunch of attempts to get into Hunter Biden’s Twitter account from a Mac. But on November 27, someone appears to have gotten into his iCloud account from Troutdale, OR.

That is, because this text was sent during a period when some crucially important anomalies were happening on Hunter Biden’s digital accounts, you’d need to ensure that whatever device with which Hunter seemingly engaged in this exchange with Ablow was actually in his hand in Newburyport, MA, and not in someone else’s hand in Troutdale, OR. That’s especially important with any conversation with Ablow, because in at least two known conversations — one in which he created the illusion for Hunter that he was speaking to some orthopedic surgeons, and another in which he entirely rewrote a Hunter comment subsequently published in Vanity FairAblow presented as Hunter.

And by claiming a photo of sawdust taken by an Ablow client is instead a photo of cocaine taken by Hunter Biden, Derek Hines may have spoiled his effort to sand-bag Abbe Lowell and avoid a suppression challenge to all this digital evidence. Sure, Hines is claiming that Lowell missed his window to file a motion to suppress by December 11, 2023. But he apparently just claimed that he hasn’t validated the data he’s submitting, as an officer of the court, in filings before Judge Maryellen Noreika. And with this apparent flub, Hines has definitely made the importance of expert forensic reports an issue.

It appears increasingly likely that before Jim Jordan demanded a prosecution of Hunter Biden and before David Weiss started to worry about threats to his family, Weiss or someone who knew better realized that any prosecution that would rely on this digital evidence would be rife with these kinds of embarrassments. But then Weiss decided he’d go forward anyway, he’d bring in experts in prosecutorial dickishness to try to sandbag their way through the difficulties posed by the laptop.

Don’t get me wrong: Hines and Leo Wise have well earned their reputation for prosecutorial dickishness. This effort to avoid any suppression challenge relating to the laptop might yet succeed!

But without the least little understanding of digital forensics, that may not be enough to sustain this case.

Update: According to someone familiar with Ablow’s office in this period, the photo does appear to match one that was in the office. That’s important because the FBI and DEA would have photos of Ablow’s office from the 2020 raid.

Update: We’ve literally come full circle. Fox News is in a tizzy because of these photos, though they appear more careful than DOJ to claim the sawdust is Hunter’s.

 

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  2. Don_24FEB2024_1000h says:

    That’s just an amazing picture. Having been a woodworker for decades I can’t imagine looking at that and not immediately seeing what the “cocaine” is on top of, but maybe other folks wouldn’t? That’s so clearly a table saw to me. Adjustable fence, blade, slot for running an alignment guide, etc. I guess addicts have done weirder things but I can’t imagine someone pouring expensive coke in a sloppy manner onto it.

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    • dopefish says:

      Yeah, I’m amazed that anybody looking at that picture would have thought it was cocaine, or thought they could claim in court with a straight face that it was cocaine..

      To me it looks exactly like sawdust on a tablesaw (which of course it is).

      [Edit: did they not see the sawblade? did they not see all the sawdust on the floor?]

      • David F. Snyder says:

        Well, people see what they want to see and disregard the rest (to paraphrase Paul Simon from his song ‘The Boxer’). Sticks become snakes, snakes become sticks, and sawdust becomes cocaine.

    • nord dakota says:

      That picture confused me. Is the mirror standing upright or on a surface? And are the sawdust lines on the mirror or on the table saw?–as to the table saw, I didn’t figure that out (partly because I wasn’t sure which way was up in this picture) but now I do see it.

      I could definitely tell it was sawdust.

      • Narpington says:

        It’s not a mirror it’s a framed photo (in Ablow’s office).

        Pretty sure cocaine’s never that colour.

  3. Dave Solimini says:

    That’s…. a table saw. Obviously so to anyone who’s ever been in a basement workshop. Probably a Ridgid portable/benchtop based on the color. Heck, there’s even a shop vac in the background/top left corner.

      • Dave S says:

        And you made me snarf my coffee. Can’t imagine the, ahem …dust… collection issues associated with such an operation.

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  4. earlofhuntingdon says:

    When I first saw that picture, I thought it was from the Onion, or a rejected scene from Breaking Bad. I’ll wager law enforcement has not one picture, from a century-long drug war, of a cocaine addict’s set-up of a line of cocaine on a plugged-in table saw, let alone one taken from a mirror image.

    Apart from the saw’s tendency to remove body parts, what addict would want to inhale a pile of sawdust along with their coke? They’d cough out their hit. All they need is a small mirror in the bathroom.

    • earlofhuntingdon says:

      Is apparent cocaine anything like an apparent crime? Asking for a friend.

      I bet the original metadata for that picture has a story to tell.

        • earlofhuntingdon says:

          It wouldn’t be crack, which is crystalized. Cocaine powder can be sniffed in a line, but nothing else in that picture suggests that what’s on the table saw is powdered cocaine.

        • Shadowalker says:

          Why I thought they were claiming it was crack (cocaine). The brownish colour could happen if it was stored in direct contact with a staining agent (coffee grounds), but that still doesn’t explain why the lines are laid out for direct inhalation nor the granularity. This whole picture is daft, and if shown to a jury would likely lead them away from beyond reasonable doubt.

        • Buzzkill Stickinthemud says:

          I thought Shadowalker was playing off your words “apparent cocaine” and “apparent crime” by saying “crack cocaine” and “crack pipe”. Maybe I credit subtlety where it’s not warranted, or I’m way off base.

          ETA: Just saw Shadowalker’s reply… disregard.

        • Shadowalker says:

          We can only rely on personal experience. I realized that I’ve never personally been in the presence of cocaine in any form (guess I hung with the wrong or maybe right crowd in my youth), and rely solely on what I’ve seen represented in the movies or other entertainment.

        • P J Evans says:

          Guy should clean his saw table off. (My father had a saw like that. When cleaning up the area after he died, we found a couple of *carded* glass cutters in the pile of sawdust under it. He also had a bandsaw.)

        • Beverley54 says:

          Yes, I was always under the impression that coke was a fine white powder (never seen it in person) and that a user would use the mirror to make lines not to take a picture of lines on a saw bench.

        • Rayne says:

          Ugh. I’m going to go into the spouse’s work shop and “do a few lines” right now.

          Maple, pine, or cedar…maybe oak? Nah, splinters are too big.

          ADDER: Sloppy, but I had to get in and out of the workshop before my spouse caught me “working” on the table saw.

        • boatgeek says:

          Don’t do cedar. Turns out it’s bad to inhale insecticides!

          To be fair, breathing fine powders and fibers in general isn’t the best move anyway. DIY asbestos isn’t quite as potent as the real stuff, but still isn’t good for you.

          [I’m sure you knew this already, but hey a PSA is probably useful]

  5. zscoreUSA says:

    I really don’t understand the issue with the email conversation with Ablow and the surgeons. Or what the “illusion” is.

    It comes across as a normal situation tome, with Ablow bending over backwards to support Hunter, while he is trying to build a business relationship together while Hunter defeats addiction.

    • earlofhuntingdon says:

      Your reading of Ablow’s intent seems optimistic. The joke of lines-of-coke-on-a-table-saw seems entirely inappropriate. Worse is promoting a business with a patient, which introduces impermissible conflicts into a therapeutic relationship. A similar arrangement didn’t work out too well for Brian Wilson. Those might be among the reasons why Ablow lost his medical license.

      • earlofhuntingdon says:

        Imagine the symbolism a Freudian might identify in that imitation cocaine on a table saw picture. Hanging in an authority figure therapist’s office. Mummy with the shears, coming to punish a bad boy, might be one of them.

      • zscoreUSA says:

        I think you are referring to the image and not the email conversation with the surgeons from 1/3/19 which my comment is referring to.

        As far as the picture with the sawdust, when Ablow texted it to Hunter, he included words of encouragement to use art to overcome addiction. Ablow at this point is attempting to develop a business relationship with Hunter, and quizzing him about Joe’s potential presidential run. Ablow wants to develop a long term relationship and doesn’t have incentive to drive Hunter off of a cliff with addiction, even if one wants to apply a nefarious motivation for his relationship with Hunter.

        • earlofhuntingdon says:

          That characterization holds no water. A therapist would create an unwaivable conflict in forming or trying to form a business partnership with a patient, which should lead to professional sanctions.

          For starters, it personalizes the relationship, itself a conflict, and introduces conflicts over money, business decisions, etc., that interfere with the patient-therapist relationship.

          Ablow, in fact, lost his medical license on 15 May 2019 for being an “immediate and serious threat to the public health, safety and welfare,” and has been sued by multiple patients [emphasis added]:

          Ablow engaged in sexual activity and boundary violations with multiple patients, diverted controlled substances from patients, engaged in disruptive behavior, including displaying and pointing a firearm on multiple occasions in a manner that scared an employee, and procured his license renewal fraudulently….

          https://www.boston.com/news/local-news/2020/02/19/keith-ablow-raid/

        • zscoreUSA says:

          Whatever rules govern the professional relationship doesn’t change the fact that Hunter and Ablow were planning to write 2 books together and a 10 part podcast series, including to have Joe as a guest. And that’s not including the efforts to get Hunter to move up there nor the efforts to bring Hunter into some advisory role with the wellness business.

        • earlofhuntingdon says:

          LOL. All of those things are textbook malpractice in a patient-therapist relationship. You’ve just demonstrated why the medical board was right to yank Ablow’s license. And how he was working to promote himself, not the mental health of his patients.

          Ablow was helping a vulnerable addict about as much as Eugene Landy helped Brian Wilson.

        • emptywheel says:

          I’m really not sure why you think a loud Trump supporter quizzing Joe Biden’s kid about the election and offering $$ is a business plan and not another piece of evidence that he was trapping him.

          How is Ablow’s pitch any different than the cultivation by CEFC or Burisma?

        • zscoreUSA says:

          To be very clear, I believe that Ablow’s role is nefarious and had ulterior motives to get close to Hunter, and consequently Joe. And I believe that if we ever know all of the facts, the record will show that Hunter’s data was indeed stolen and that the connection with Ablow was important to facilitate.

          Both times Hunter leaves Newburyport, it’s due to his relapse. This is before Ablow’s lawsuits blowup and he loses his license. Their business relationship ended due to Hunter’s relapse. Ended before it began really.

          I believe it’s inaccurate to say Ablow was attempting to trigger Hunter’s addiction via the sawdust photo. Whether Ablow would be above that ethically or not, it would be against Ablow’s own interest to get close to Hunter.

          If people want to believe Ablow was attempting to trigger a relapse by sending a sawdust as art photo, good luck, I don’t believe that to be accurate.

        • earlofhuntingdon says:

          We’re obviously not going to agree on how to read Ablow. The characterization in your last comment does not fit your initial comment:

          It comes across as a normal situation tome [sic], with Ablow bending over backwards to support Hunter, while he is trying to build a business relationship together while Hunter defeats addiction.

          Lawsuits always come after the abusive behavior that elicits them. The odds are that behavior played a part in HB’s relapses, given that Ablow was promoting his interests rather than HB’s. Attempting to build a business relationship with a patient, for example, is not therapy: it is textbook malpractice.

          Decreasing a patient’s reliance on the therapist is a basic goal of therapy. It is fundamental to abusive behavior, on the other hand, to make the victim more dependent on the abuser. How might that be expressed between a therapist and an addictive patient?

          The mirror image, lines of coke on a table saw seems designed to increase that dependence. It suggests that temptation is everywhere, that it will lead to drug use in plain sight, and that continued dependence on the therapist is the only way to overcome it. That’s abusive behavior.

  6. ExRacerX says:

    This whole thing reminds me of the night in the ’90s when me, my two brothers and a friend were pulled over in my mom’s car. The police found a packet of powdered car upholstery soap that was in the glove compartment (although they claimed it was in “plain view,” sticking out from under a floor mat) and charged us all with possession of cocaine with intent to distribute. They claimed the soap tested positive for coke with their field kit. We spent that night in the County Jail.

    We had no idea my mom had that soap in the car until my father bolted from the dinner table one night, saying, “I know what that stuff was!” We all followed him out to the car, where he found the soap to be missing from the glove compartment. My mother confirmed it had been in there since she’d bought the car.

    Of course, when the lab analysis came back, the charges were dropped, but the whole embarrassing saga had reported in the local newspaper, as well. They printed a retraction, but what a clusterfuck. I lost a lot of respect for the police that day, and I have a lot of empathy for Hunter Biden and what he’s going through.

    • rosalind says:

      a while back the local Police held a press conference to announce gummy bears they confiscated at a local high school had field tested positive for 3 – count ’em! – 3 illegal substances. blaring headlines ensued, parental panic spread…then a week later they very quietly announced “never mind!”. the lab tests came back: 0 drugs. only regular gummy bears.

      my q. to local paper: are all field tests then sent on to the lab, or are there people sitting in jail based on these severely flawed tests alone? haven’t heard back. need to follow up.

    • nord dakota says:

      I got strip searched at the border (I don’t remember if Canada or Mexico, I lived near the first and went to college near the second) because of alfalfa seeds on the dashboard. My parents farmed and gave me an old Falcon that had been used in the fields to drive to college and after.

      • Bruce Olsen says:

        Canada, I’m sure. They didn’t want you to be smuggling any of that primo Alberta Gold.
        After spending some time on an uncle’s farm in Michigan, I can tell you alfafa seeds do not resemble cannabis seeds in any way. Different size, different shape, different color.
        Those agents must have studied at DARE Tech. Or Trump University.

  7. Peterr says:

    Lines of sawdust, portrayed in a legal filing as cocaine?

    Way way back in the day, I worked as a cook in a local pizza parlor. One day, one of the other guys, while doing sauce prep, called loudly to a coworker “Bring me some of that great Iowa Gold from the back.” The coworker came out from the storeroom with a baggie of some green herb, just as the manager came by. “WTF is that?!??!” he shouted. The other guy laughed, opened the bag, pulled out a pinch and put it in his mouth. “This is the good sh*t we put in the sauce.” Then he pointed back to the storeroom, where there was a large industrial bag of *oregano* from Iowa.

    The manager laughed, and then said “OK, funny – but don’t pull that stunt again. We don’t need some customer calling the cops to say you guys are dealing.”

    • Harry Eagar says:

      Iowa oregano? Anything will grow there but in 11 years I wss there, I never heard of anyone growing it commercially.

      I learn the strangest things here.

    • Bruce Olsen says:

      Saw a guy in college (1972) sell an actual bag of oregano to a hapless freshman.
      He’d hid the baggie in his dorm room ceiling, and made great show of furtively removing a ceiling tile to retrieve it.
      I think he became a criminal defense lawyer (seriously).

    • timbozone says:

      ahahaha! Good thing there wasn’t joking going on about the “Hawaiian white dust” while they was working on the blintzes? “Dude, I got the baggie!” lol

  8. Rugger_9 says:

    As EW noted, the legal bozos in Weiss’ office might have just blown their opportunity to dodge suppression of the laptop. I still think Lowell would have subpoenaed JMPI as a hostile witness anyhow, but clear questions about the digital evidence make Lowell’s job easier.

    I have to wonder just how much farther Weiss will continue before throwing up his hands and writing a 1000-page report saying nothing. I suspect it will come quickly if Judge Noreika gives Lowell what he wants for examination of the evidentiary trail.

  9. bloopie2 says:

    Somewhat OT, but I can’t figure out the photo. Just in from the right edge, it seems to show a mirror line. Was there a mirror set up next to the saw before the photo was taken? Why?
    And what are the black lines top and bottom; is the photo mounted in some kind of frame (apt word for this setup, no).? Is the photo under glass (it is all very reflective at some areas, even to the left of the saw image area) ?

    • JVOJVOJVO says:

      I would definitely have expert(s) analyze the photo – including one in physics – i.e., optics and photography. You can see it is a picture of a reflective pan shaped object standing vertical and reflecting into the camera/photographer what is beside/next to/behind the camera. Follow the lines of the table saw surface to the bottom of the pan and see how the lines of the table edges angle at the sides of the pan. There’s a lot more to note to be sure but there’s a lot more evidence in the photo that needs to be explained and understood.

    • Taxesmycredulity says:

      Looks to me like a stand-alone picture frame with mirrored or beveled edges that can be used horizontally or vertically. Found several examples on the google but don’t know how to embed an image or if it’s allowed.

      • JVOJVOJVO says:

        I can’t find anything to rule that out at this time – an expert should be able to answer it pretty quickly

      • earlofhuntingdon says:

        Almost certainly the type of mirror you describe. The frame is about the same color and reflectance as the mirror. Which also means that the image of the table saw is a reflection, and reversed.

  10. Naomi Schiff says:

    Way back in the Nixon era I got stopped all the time by the sheriffs of San Diego County (drove an old VW, so suspicious). Once I was threatened because my Rapidograph fountain pen looked to genius officer like a hypodermic needle: avoided arrest by demonstrating use of ink-emitting writing instrument.

      • John Paul Jones says:

        Totally OT notes:

        R. Crumb uses a technical pen for his work. To get the thin/thick effects of a traditional nibbed pen, you have to work differently and harder, but said effects can also be much more subtle.

        The Rapidograph / technical pen “nib” is actually a hollow tube with a wire in its centre. Said wire for some “nibs” can be thinner than a human hair.

  11. Brian Ruff says:

    I’m probably the only working carpenter on here, so let me tell you, if that’s cedar saw dust that shit will fuck you up!

    • Bugboy321 says:

      I have it on good authority that the cedar saw dust you might have mistaken for snuff does an excellent job of keeping the clothes moths out of your nostrils…

        • Bugboy321 says:

          Not so fast there, hot shot! I also have it on good authority that huffing mothballs over an insect collection for several hours will give you tunnel vision. Literally. Very scary to experience when you follow that by teaching a class, during which your peripheral vision turns to black static. Good times!

  12. vigetnovus says:

    Forgive me if I’m confused, I’m not on Twitter and I don’t follow the antics of this Garrett Ziegler, but his tweet seems like a massive self-own against his case to avoid civil liability as well as to his cause to have Biden smeared. If he had said nothing, would we have known that the photograph in the filing wasn’t from Hunter? I mean, I suppose it eventually would have come out, but I cannot help but think he just gave Abbe Lowell the ammunition he needs to challenge this whole prosecution.

    Or was this stunt just a way of him trying to prove that he’s the smartest guy in the room and take a gratuitous dig at Marcy?

    This just seems to be a huge unforced error on his part.

    • Tech Support says:

      It’s not clear to me that anything Garrett Ziegler has done publicly has been in the interest of advancing a successful prosecution of Hunter Biden. The arc of his behavior seems more like a vain desire to bask in the spotlight, followed by a sudden realization that with notoriety comes scrutiny and he’s now scrambling to avoid consequences.

    • emptywheel says:

      Thus my joke about competence.

      Yeah, he’s trying to be the smartest guy in the room. But it also serves his interest to discredit even THIS abusive investigation AND ALSO he’s using it to pretend the data has been corroborated more than it has.

      • Savage Librarian says:

        But where’s the CV for the expert from the Magic Kingdom? You know, the one who harvests Pixie Dust from the Pixie Dust Tree. As for all that sawdust, maybe Mike Lindell could use some for his pillows.

        • Matt___B says:

          When I was a kid my father used to say McDonald’s hamburgers tasted like sawdust. He never took our family there. They used to cost 19 cents back then. (Guess you get what you pay for!)

      • NerdyCanuck says:

        Why would he want to derail/discredit the investigation? When he is the one who fought so hard for it to happen in the first place?

  13. higgs boson says:

    If a table saw is drug paraphernalia, I wonder what else in my garage could get me in trouble.

    “You’re under arrest for possession of a belt sander!”

    • Rayne says:

      OMFG no wonder that creepy balding dude with wire-rim glasses came poking around my house 20 years ago. He found out from a retailer my spouse bought a 15-inch Grizzly planer and he wanted to see it because he claimed he was looking to buy one. I told him to get lost, stop violating our privacy.

      Little did I know he was looking for drug paraphernalia. What the hell has my spouse been doing in the workshop???

    • boatgeek says:

      Hopefully they don’t look at my palm sander or in my shop vac canister.

      Plus I have a lot of fine white powder cleverly hidden in a box labeled Borax. Who knows what that’ll test as in the field kit!

      • JAFO_NAL says:

        Good thing that was a carpenter and not a sheet rock worker or he’d probably be up on charges alongside Hunter. This would (wood?) almost be comical if it wasn’t an evil example of complete over reach running down a recovering addict in an attempt to impugn his father.

      • ShallMustMay08 says:

        I keep the fine white good stuff in my kitchen. Cornstarch.

        I hope the Judge has some fun with this too and brings some integrity back into this shitshow.

      • Legonaut says:

        I have no idea what the going rate is for narcotics, but I’d say I have at least two kilos of this Golden Gold on my garage workshop floor.

        If only retirement planning were that easy…

  14. wetzel-rhymes-with says:

    I’m sorry, Marcy, I have looked and cannot find a forensic method for dating cocaine. I am curious how that would work beyond a subjective estimate. Here is the UN Office of Crime’s Recommended Methods for the Identification and Analysis of Cocaine in Seized Materials. https://www.unodc.org/documents/scientific/Cocaine_Manual_Rev_1.pdf

    I don’t know if there is a quantitative method for dating cocaine unless it were unearthed in Mayan ruins. Maybe there is some zeroth order breakdown product they can find with quantitative mass spec, but I haven’t been able to find any reference online. I don’t know what is included in a USA Govt lab forensics report, but for most purposes, I suppose identification alone would suffice for most prosecutors, who are the lab’s customers.

    There might be a traditional “subjective” dating which is missing, which might be a sloppy report. A lab may include no result if there is no precise or sensitive test.

  15. Rugger_9 says:

    OT: CNN reported about a statement from Mike Turner (House Intelligence Committee chair) saying there was a severe ‘national security threat’. According to CNN, it’s about Russia and space, but since the ‘Gang of Eight’ were to get their briefing on this tomorrow it looks to me like someone’s jumping the gun.

    https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/14/politics/house-intel-chairman-serious-national-security-threat/index.html

    I would note that MAGA-world is already saying it’s a fake to get Ukraine funding passed. Speaker Johnson is also downplaying the issue so I’m wondering if this is supposed to be a trial balloon to paint Biden as weak or something weirder. For the time being, I’ll have to take Adam Kinzinger’s word about how unusual it was for Turner to go off today.

    I also wonder if it is so just what vulnerabilities that Defendant-1 gave Vlad out of his M-a-L stash.

    • Rayne says:

      At first I thought this might be a manipulative panic but Turner’s been a rep for more than 20 years and a committee member who’d be in the know having these assignments:

      Committee on Intelligence (Ranking Member (2022-2023); Chairman (2023-))
      Committee on Armed Services
      Subcommittee on Tactical Air and Land Forces Former Chairman
      Subcommittee on Strategic Forces

      Turner’s also been on the House Baltic Caucus and the Romanian Congressional Caucus; he was president of the NATO Parliamentary Assembly from 2014-2016.

      Based on all that, a history of not running to the mic to trash talk Biden, I think something spooked him hard. Debating about a post on this because there are other dotted lines which should be made more clear right now.

        • boatgeek says:

          Nukes in space, but as antisatellite weapons rather than for re-entry to the surface? What a bizarrely self-destructive concept. It would take out everybody’s satellites including the Russian ones. Does Russia think that they could rebuild their satellite constellations faster than the US/NATO? Good luck with that with 2-3 Soyuz launches per year vs. 2-3 Falcon 9 launches per week…

        • Rayne says:

          There has been some concern recently about interference with GPS — keep in mind Russia uses GLONASS, not GPS. If Russia screwed with GPS it’d definitely bork the US economy depending on how badly. But such a move let alone any attack on US/EU satellites would be a violation of 1967 Outer Space Treaty and could be construed as an Article V trigger for NATO.

        • Rugger_9 says:

          GPS was for a while the principal source for fixing a ship’s location but the USN wised up and went back to celestial. More of a pain in the arse but not subject to jamming. I don’t know about the Army or Air Force.

        • Bill B(Not Barr) says:

          Thanks for that link about instruction being reintroduced. I may normally sail the Great Lakes but I do have a sextant available.

        • Rayne says:

          You’ll be well ahead of most Americans if you can simply tell the four cardinal directions. I worry about this after nearly two decades of digital maps and users’ increasing dependence on them.

        • earlofhuntingdon says:

          I had a friend in a European army. He had an early GPS that gave readouts in longitude and latitude. No GUI. You had to find the coordinates on a paper map. Given how he drove cross country, that was a challenge.

        • Bill B(Not Barr) says:

          I would assume Celestial as a backup always, but between inertial nav and other redundancies I would expect the Navy would be fine.

          Most of the drivers in the US would be screwed though.

          Rayne — I hope I spelled my name correctly. I have a new laptop and could not find any of my few responses. Please correct if I misremembered.

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        • boatgeek says:

          Nukes in space would be far beyond “screwing with GPS” and would also take out GLONASS (not to mention Galileo, the European equivalent). Strictly speaking, they’d have to have 3-5 nukes to reliably take out all of the GPS satellites, but again that wipes out everyone. That leaves everyone with no satellite navigation.

          As Rugger says, the navies of the world would likely go back to celestial, as would merchant ships if they have the skills. Many precision weapons would be bricks, but there are still a lot of optical- and laser-guided weapons. Civilians would be stuck back in the pre-2000’s. Uber and Lyft (among others) would be screwed, as would anyone who solely depends on their phone for navigation.

          If the Russians only do half a job, they probably get nothing. You can get a lower-quality (say 50-foot accuracy instead of 5) GPS fix with 4-5 satellites in view, and there are often 7-8 in view at any time. There are a total of 31 in orbit. They’d need to take out at least half to really cause problems.

        • Rayne says:

          You’re thinking too big. Only specific satellites need to be taken out.

          There are other ways to be a PITA in space, or perhaps you’ve forgotten April 1, 2014.

          (It’s an interesting coincidence we’re likely at solar maximum right now having had a smattering of M-class solar storms this week as well as at least one X-class.)

        • boatgeek says:

          All I’m saying is that a nuke in space is an awfully blunt instrument to disable a satellite and will cause an awful lot of collateral damage. Maybe Russia could get out of it with GLONASS intact if they timed the bombs right, but that’s an awfully big maybe to depend on when an action would likely start a shooting war. You’d hate to find out you started a war and either crippled yourself or insufficiently crippled your opponent.

          I would think that some kind of directed energy, killer satellite, or jamming would be far less likely to blow back on oneself.

        • earlofhuntingdon says:

          Depends on the size of the nuke, and how accurately you can position it. There’s also the reach and effect of its high-altitude electromagnetic pulse.

        • Matt___B says:

          as would anyone who solely depends on their phone for navigation

          Hmmm…that would be about 99% people I know. I seem to be one of the few semi-luddites who insist on navigating on my own and only referring to GPS when absolutely necessary. It’s of a piece with people no longer memorizing phone numbers these days, either.

        • EuroTark says:

          Russia has a long history of deploying GPS-jammers, even close enough to the border that it affects neighboring countries.

        • Rayne says:

          When Estonian media reports on it — and Estonia is far more on the ball about cyber warfare than most of EU and even the US — I’m going to assume it’s not business as usual.

        • Rayne says:

          “consumer devices” — which ones in the US use other than GPS satnav, like EU’s Galileo?

          FCC voted to allow the US to use Galileo back in 2018 but it’s not widely marketed as a feature if it’s even being built into some consumer devices. Even apps designed for Galileo qualify their use as limited to “compatible devices.”

          If Russia has plans to take out GPS and only GPS, think about the message that would send. But after the last 24 hours I suspect the chatter is just head games.

        • Purple Martin says:

          Per your ADDER-2, yup, Nukes in Space. Here’s a concise useful overview, cites news reports from a bunch of different sources and adds substantial background (also with cites).

          https://www.defenseone.com/technology/2024/02/russia-putting-anti-satellite-nuke-space/394198/

          (Defense One is a credible DoD industry publication, part of the GovExec publishing group. I’ve gotten their daily summary for years. They’re useful as long as one remembers they’re “Industry,” so rarely meet a spending program they don’t like.)

        • Rayne says:

          The caveat about industry is critical. A lot of the buzz could simply be FUD goosing Congress to drum up funding.

          What’s difficult to tell is whether the Russian launch with classified payload is merely a tit for the tat we launched a few weeks back. We’ve got another X-37B overhead now.

        • earlofhuntingdon says:

          I’d be more concerned about the warhead(s) than the missile. And whether Russia can or has put a nuke in orbit.

      • Greg Hunter says:

        Mike comes out of the same cesspool in Dayton that aided and abetted Mike DeWine and future Ohio Governor Jon Husted. He was financed to run for the office by a large minority set aside contractor owned by Raj Soin. Raj later sold his conglomerate to British Aerospace as Mike rose through the ranks in the halls of Congress.

        Mike is not the sharpest tool in the shed but he has no fear of losing his seat as he felt comfortable enough to engage in a little vindictive attack against an old nemesis during the last election cycle that somewhat backfired.

        He and his predecessor in the seat Tony Hall (D) show up prominently in Jeff Sharlet’s – The Family. I could go on about his two wives and his best man Darrel Issa, but we can wait for TMZ-DC to tell those stories.

        • Rayne says:

          Interesting. Raj Soin is quite a character. I’d seen the messiness about Turner’s second divorce but no mention of Soin in them.

        • Greg Hunter says:

          I really have a chip about Raj as he played the 8a (minority set-aside) game very well in a town that was torn apart by racial division. Mike Turner was paid as in-house council by Raj’s Modern Technologies to run for the seat he now holds. Clancy Brown’s brother and myself were the Republican challengers in the 2002 primary. Mike’s first wife seemed pretty desperate for attention as I recall.

          Southeast Asians should have never been allowed into the 8a program.

        • Rayne says:

          Your remark about Southeast Asians is ill-informed and comes across as racist.

          Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN):
          Brunei Darussalam, Cambodia, Indonesia, Lao PDR, Malaysia, Myanmar, the Philippines, Singapore, Thailand, and Vietnam

          South Asian Association for Regional Cooperation (SAARC):
          Bangladesh, Bhutan, India, the Maldives, Nepal, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, and Afghanistan

          You might have a better point saying minority set-asides should qualify based on need and composition of the market in which they compete. Raj Soin’s business doesn’t look like it’s hurting.

          ADDER: for others unfamiliar with Raj Soin, he’s a business person of high personal wealth and Indian birth for whom a hospital and a college of business have been named after donations to those facilities. He doesn’t have his own Wikipedia page but there’s a fair amount of news available about him by search engine.

        • earlofhuntingdon says:

          Thank you. SBA set asides – which allocate a few govt contracts to help small minority-owned businesses – should not be used to help the already wealthy. They should also support firms legitimately run by the group they intend to favor, not big capital using a few of them as placeholders, which was once a common abuse.

        • Error Prone says:

          Has anyone seen this thing Turner is touting, is it new news or old news? Classified when?

          Could it relate to nuclear related classified docs Trump had at MaL? Might it be politicized that way?

          Could the most recent X37B flight have nabbed a Russian space thing into its bay, or is it only a launch vehicle and not a retrieval tool?

          A ton of things we’ve yet to hear, and things could lead in many directions, (politicized or not). We just don’t know.

    • wetzel-rhymes-with says:

      “I’m wondering if this is supposed to be a trial balloon to paint Biden as weak or something weirder” I think you are describing the potential of Russian nuclear terror being used as propaganda to influence an American election with the coordination of MAGA. Putin and Trump have had their call and response, as Marcy so aptly described it, so I think this election is shaping up to represent a trans-global fascist putsch. Putin’s war depends on it. All the while, MAGA will portray the obvious truth as a conspiracy theory.

      I think Putin will underestimate the strength of Biden’s own analysis and game theory for Russian nuclear terror. The national security team understands this form of propaganda much better than Biden’s political team understands what to do about Hunter Biden. They have wrong-footed every attempt by Putin to instill nuclear terror in this war, so far, I think.

  16. KlauseEdcase says:

    My god, that’s Turbinado. He’s going for a sugar high.

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  17. morganism says:

    That weiss?

    An FBI informant has been charged with lying to his handler about ties between Joe Biden, his son Hunter and a Ukrainian energy company.

    [- excerpted text removed -]

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/feb/15/fbi-informant-biden-ukraine-charged-burisma

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  18. appyness says:

    No … just no. This photo wouldnt even make the plot / storyline of a c-list cop show – because its just plain bonkers. Yet another example of brains absent without leave which lays the american justice system open to ridicule … and not for the first time. How many hours (thousands of dollars of lawyer’s fees) will be spent / wasted before putting this absurdity to rest?

    PS apologies in advance if my username / emails dont match. Im such an infrequent poster …

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  19. Savage Librarian says:

    Since we’re talking about sawdust, carpenters, deceit, nonsense, gullibility and abuse:

    “The Walrus and the Carpenter by Lewis Carroll” | Poetry Foundation

    “The time has come,’ the Walrus said,
    To talk of many things:
    Of shoes — and ships — and sealing-wax —
    Of cabbages — and kings —
    And why the sea is boiling hot —
    And whether pigs have wings.’ “

    https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/43914/the-walrus-and-the-carpenter-56d222cbc80a9

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