Hunter Biden Gets a Step Closer to Vindicating Twitter’s Takedown Decision

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Yesterday, as things moved closer to an expulsion vote for George Santos, activist “Anarchy Princess” taunted Santos staffer, Vish Burra, about whether he hacked Hunter Biden’s phone.

AP: Like the same way that you got into Hunter Biden’s stuff?

VB: [laughter]

AP: Yeah, didn’t you hack Hunter Biden’s shit, his phone or something?

VB: [turns to camera] Yeah, and I’d do it again.

Burra, who in 2020 was the producer of Steve Bannon’s podcast, has previously described “extracting” the contents of the “laptop” and took credit for hooking Bannon up with Emma-Jo Morris, who published the initial NY Post story.

Hunter Biden described Burra’s past claims in his lawsuit against Rudy Giuliani and Robert Costello for unlawfully accessing and manipulating his data.

As further evidence of Defendants’ illegal hacking of Plaintiff’s data, it recently has come to light that Defendant Giuliani apparently worked directly with Steve Bannon and Vish Burra to access, manipulate, and copy Plaintiff’s “laptop,” which Burra has dubbed the “Manhattan Project” because he and others “were essentially creating a nuclear political weapon,” referring to Burra’s work with Defendant Giuliani and others (Steve Bannon and Bernie Kerik) to manipulate the “laptop.”

But Burra has not, as far as I know, confessed to “hack[ing] Hunter Biden’s shit.”

Yesterday — whether in jest or not — he did.

Later that same day, Matt Taibbi and Michael Shellenberger had their semi-annual appearance before Jim Jordan’s Weaponizing Government committee.

At the hearing, Dan Goldman had this exchange with Shellenberger about the “Hunter Biden” “laptop:”

DG: You’ve talked about the Hunter Biden laptop, and how the FBI knew it existed. You are aware, of course, that the laptop, so to speak, was actually — that was published in the New York Post was actually a hard drive that the NY Post admitted — here! — was not authenticated as real. It was not the laptop the FBI had. You’re aware of that, right?

MS: It was the same contents.

DG: How do you know?

MS: Because it’s the same —

DG: You would have to authenticate it to know it was the same contents. You have no idea.

MS: [inaudible] conspiracy. Are you suggesting the NY Post participated in a conspiracy to construct the contents of the Hunter Biden laptop?

DG: No, sir, the problem is that hard drives can be manipulated by Rudy Giuliani or Russia.

MS: What’s the evidence that that happened?

DG: Well, there is actual evidence of it, but the point —

MS: There’s no evidence of it. You’re engaged in a conspiracy theory.

Miranda Devine (who keeps dog-whistling about Hunter Biden’s “expensive” lawyers) and the House GOP all seem to think this was a very clever exchange, as that’s the clip they all sent out to froth up the rubes.

Goldman is right: You’d need to authenticate the contents of the “laptop.” As I have shown, even the FBI had not checked whether anything was altered on the laptop they received while in John Paul Mac Isaac’s custody, ten months after receiving it. Their computer guy was still suggesting ways to do that on October 22, 2020, over a week after the NY Post story was published. At the time, Lesley Wolf — the villain of the Republican story — was in no rush to do so.

Understand, though: the critical question here is not whether the hard drive was authenticated. The question is whether it was hacked. Here’s how Vijaya Gadde described the decision to take down the original NY Post link in October 2020.

For example, on October 14th, 2020, the New York Post tweeted articles about Hunter Biden’s laptop with embedded images that look like they may have been obtained through hacking. In 2018, we had developed a policy intended to, to prevent Twitter from becoming a dumping ground for hacked materials. We applied this policy to the New York Post tweets and blocked links to the articles embedding those source materials. At no point did Twitter otherwise prevent tweeting, reporting, discussing or describing the contents of Mr. Biden’s laptop.

If the data in NY Post’s hands was hacked, then according to Twitter’s terms of service, links to it should have been taken down.

If the data in NY Post’s hands was hacked, then the takedown that Republicans claim was a violation of their speech was, in fact, adherence to Twitter’s terms of service as they existed at the time.

And Hunter Biden’s lawsuit alleges that Rudy Giuliani and Robert Costello unlawfully accessed — hacked — his data.

And yesterday, Burra — the guy who set up the tie between Bannon and the NY Post in the first place — laughingly agreed that he did hack Hunter Biden’s shit.

Now, Michael Shellenberger says there’s no evidence the data on the hard drive was altered by Burra and others. Miranda Devine says you have to take the word of the Bidens to believe that happened.

They said that the same day Burra laughingly said he would hack Hunter Biden again.

More importantly, you don’t have to go to the Bidens for evidence that the hard drive was altered. You can go to Garrett Ziegler, whom Hunter Biden has also accused of hacking his shit.

In the set of emails publicly released by Ziegler at BidenLaptopEmails dot com, there is an email from Hunter Biden’s Rosemont Seneca email account (hosted by Gmail), that was sent on September 1, 2020 ET (September 2 GMT).

It’s a resent version of an email sent in 2016 (DDOS says that a footer was also altered).

If everything John Paul Mac Isaac says is true, if everything Rudy Giuliani says is true, this “laptop” was in the custody of Rudy Giuliani (or Robert Costello, on Rudy’s behalf) on the date it was sent. Whoever resent this email — and it was sent over a year after Hunter left Burisma — it was added to the “laptop” while it was in Rudy’s custody.

I’ll leave it to the lawyers and the tech people to explain how an email set from an account hosted by Gmail was added to the hard drive from which Garrett Ziegler obtained his copy. I’ll leave it to the lawyers to argue about whether it would necessarily require unauthorized access to Hunter Biden’s Gmail or iCloud account for that email to be on the hard drive.

But it’s something that could not have been on the laptop when someone — allegedly Hunter Biden — dropped off a laptop at John Paul Mac Isaac’s shop on April 12, 2019. By all understandings of the dissemination of various hard drives — which Thomas Fine has illustrated this way — it would have been on what NY Post worked from on its October 14, 2020 story.

There’s no evidence, Michael Shellenberger said. You’re supposed to take the words of the Bidens, Miranda Devine said.

And on the same day they made those claims, Vish Burra said, of hacking Hunter Biden’s stuff, “Yeah, and I’d do it again.”

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    • Just Some Guy says:

      There’s always some GOP office holder willing to employ them, too. Reminds me of Mitch McConnell hiring Jesse Benton.

  2. harpie says:

    If everything John Paul Mac Isaac says is true, if everything Rudy Giuliani says is true, this “laptop” was in the custody of Rudy Giuliani (or Robert Costello, on Rudy’s behalf) on the date it was sent. Whoever resent this email — and it was sent over a year after Hunter left Burisma — it was added to the “laptop” while it was in Rudy’s custody.

    I admit, I mostly get lost when Marcy is “in the weeds”, but this…!!!!!

  3. Rugger_9 says:

    That’s why the Hunter Biden trial will be held by Gym Jordan and James Comer. I’m waiting for Weiss to (very quietly) admit he’s got nothing in a Friday news dump dominated by some other RWNM crisis (heck, we’re overdue for another stab at HRC emails). It’s still a little way off, because Weiss is also using the power of the SC to try to extract ‘evidence’ from HB, which is running into legitimate roadblocks put up by Abbe Lowell. HB really lucked out to find Lowell.

    I will speculate that the ‘tell’ will be when Weiss asks for delays in the trial process (the reasons don’t matter) to try to position this into 2024, say around March to May.

    • Rayne says:

      Bookmarking this because we need to do more than discuss it in comments. We need to cut it off at the pass.

      You tell me when you think the right time is to pull the trigger — preferably before a Friday — and I’ll put up a post about the way the public’s attention is being played using this model.

      Coincidentally, today would be the perfect day for right-wing scumbuckets to drop content in a news dump thanks to that scofflaw George Santos and Sandra Day O’Connor’s death.

      #bookmark_OpRedirect

      • Rugger_9 says:

        It would be a good day given what happened to Santos today, but I don’t think Weiss is done on his side.

        Would Wiess ‘manufacture’ evidence? I am not saying that at all, but I do know that anything Weiss does dig up will become fodder for the MAGA nuts in their committees to blow all over the place. This isn’t about Weiss but Jordan/Comer.

        As a case in point, we have discussed the lack of credibility of Taibbi, Shapley, J Ziegler, Mac Isaac, et al in this blog yet many of them are being invited to speak in public hearings and lie. We had another one this week, so it’s not a small issue. It’s also what happened to the Mueller report.

        • emptywheel says:

          Weiss SHOULD be weighing in on Hunter’s subpoena request.

          Weiss won’t close up until this subpoena is done bc if he’s held in contempt it’ll get sent right to Weiss.

          But I also suspect, particularly given that Clark has dropped off, they’ll try to reopen 2018 by claiming that Hunter lied at a time he was totally sober. He’s a prosecutor. He has unlimited capability of stringing this out.

    • Upisdown says:

      For now, Comer and Jordan will continue to wear out the paddles trying to shock a heartbeat into their flatlined investigations.

      They will ignore requests to call it. They’ll just keep shouting “clear” as they go on Fox or hold another nothing press conference.

  4. zscoreUSA says:

    Wow, good stuff here, Burra admitting to hacking Hunter’s shit. From a technical point, what does that mean though? Did the hack occur back in early 2019 and Burra received an already hacked hard drive? And Hunter hadn’t changed his password in that time?

    Also, I’m bracing myself for some Grassley propaganda from the Federalist, let’s see.

    • Rugger_9 says:

      It might be enough to shut down Weiss’ investigation, because what other evidence does he really have without the laptop that is not the subject of a plea deal? IANAL, but I can only speculate that Lowell will make full use of this detail in his attempt to call it selective and/or malicious prosecution.

    • emptywheel says:

      It is my belief that Hunter was hacked in January to February 2019, probably building off earlier compromises of his Apple account going back years. Whether he brought the laptop or someone else did to JPMI — or computers were swapped — what really matters is that the laptop had been packaged up to make it really easy to unzip the rest of his life.

      Which Rudy and friends proceeded to do.

      I can’t prove that, though, w/o subpoena power.

  5. Ginevra diBenci says:

    Does Dan Goldman (or Jamie Raskin, e.g.) know about this email sent 1 Sept 2020? Did you just find it, EW? It would seem to be the perfect gotcha point for one of them to zing at Shellenberger/Taibbi/the public in a hearing like these. Nothing sings louder or more on-pitch than dates that reveal how linear time gives the lie to the story being sold.

    This is worthy of Law & Order!

    • emptywheel says:

      No. I didn’t just find it. When Goldman said there was evidence of alteration, this email may have been included in his reference. Those of us who’ve looked at this closely all know about the anomalies (the DDOS report lays some of them out well).

      There are also some later emails sent. They’re the easy way for people to understand that Hunter’s claims that his data was hacked are not frivolous.

  6. gozermac says:

    I wouldn’t mind seeing dates attributed to the drive copies and the IT person that associates IP addresses and dates to accessing both the gmail and iCloud accounts post laptop drop off will win a pulitzer.

  7. Savage Librarian says:

    It’s weird how the the name was changed from “Joan Mayer” (2016 email) to “Joan Peugh” (2020 email) in the cc line. What’s up with that?!

      • Rugger_9 says:

        Sometimes it’s more of a pain in the arse to change names at work, especially for DoD affiliated entities because of the documentation to prove it’s the same person. My beloved kept hers at work for that reason.

        • Rayne says:

          This is why I went with a hybrid name — persons in other organizations with which I was affiliated would still recognize my name (and my father’s name). But it has been a pain in the butt to explain this for +30 years. If I’d kept my maiden name I’d still have to explain to the spouse’s family on the regular, to my kids’ friends and their parents…ugh. This culture is not kind to women who try to build and keep their own identity.

        • emptywheel says:

          Well, you’ve never explained that to me (or maybe you did and I forgot), not in almost 20 years, and I love the story.

          I love that story (and love your hybrid last name.

          As for me, I never changed bc we couldn’t figure out a hybrid that didn’t sound like the equivalent of Vomit Wagon, plus I already had my PhD in my name. Now I’m glad it makes it somewhat harder to associate him with me.

        • Rayne says:

          LOL I don’t know if we ever discussed my name. My father was fairly well known in this community; people seeing his name knew him from his workplace or church or from his participation in charitable civic organizations. Some recognize my association with my sibling who still uses the same family name.

          My spouse’s family is recognized in his hometown as well as several other west Michigan cities because they owned a chain of businesses under their name. (Nowadays I run into people here who think I must be related to his second cousins who share the same name.)

          I really preferred being recognized by my dad’s name locally. But the hybrid combination is all kinds of awkward (“How do you pronounce THAT?” they’ll ask before making weird noises). And then there’s the place in the alphabet and seating or turns…

          I can understand entirely why you are Dr. Wheeler — you made the right choice, IMO.

          Would bet on Peugh/Mayer using Peugh in business for very similar reasons.

        • emptywheel says:

          Plus, as you will appreciate, doing local politics in Ann Arbor with the last name of Wheeler was a lot of fun. Alma and Conan and I used to joke about it a lot. I’d call her my aunt and people would gently tell me she was Black.

          I think you know this: But Alma’s sister married us. She did not keep her prominent father’s name. We raised it during the ceremony and she implied she regretted changing her name, doubly bless my decision to keep my father’s name, effectively.

        • Rayne says:

          What? You’re not related to Alma and Conan?? LOL

          No, I didn’t know Alma’s sister was your officiant — that’s pretty awesome.

        • Rugger_9 says:

          It never bothered me that my beloved still uses the maiden name, and according to our two girls I’m ‘such a guy’…

          I suppose I’m an outlier.

        • Rayne says:

          Yes, you’re an outlier. My spouse had been fine with it as I had warned him for years before we got our marriage license. The day we got our license he was shocked my name wasn’t going to be the same as his. *eye roll*

          He never has to explain his name — it’s not as if it was an inconvenience to him.

        • P J Evans says:

          Friend got married. Both of them were known professionally, and neither wanted to change names. (He said “Mr X” was her father, and she claimed “Mrs Y” was his mother.) So they both kept the names they were known by. It’s been 45 years…

        • Rayne says:

          That doesn’t mean the wife never had to explain her name. I’ve been married north of 30 years and I still get asked on occasion why my name isn’t exactly the same as my spouse’s.

        • bgThenNow says:

          My mother said she was reminded there could always be another Mrs. (My Father’s first) and (last Name). She kept her first name, then maiden name/initial, followed by His last name for her official signature/ID after marriage. She had been employed professionally and was not married til around age 30 in the early 1950s. Before hyphenation was a thing.

        • Rayne says:

          I am “another Mrs.” but that didn’t enter into my calculus when deciding on my name. Unfortunately mass mail marketing can’t make the distinction and I’ve gotten three decades of marketing with the first Mrs. name and my name cobbled together sent to addresses at which she never lived. *sigh*

        • emptywheel says:

          When my mother–a computer programmer in the 60s–married my father, another manager in the department was also named Wheeler.

          It caused quite a scandal, not least bc her printouts added to the confusion.

          Then she got pregnant and that was the end to her technical career for a decade or so.

        • earlofhuntingdon says:

          Reminds me of a WWII military acronym that might have been continued in the I’ve Been Moved culture. PWP: Pregnant Without Permission. Naturally, that meant automatic resignation or dismissal.

          This discussion about last names reminds me that in the era when a lot of people expected the ERA to pass, it was common for women to keep their last name, instead of adopting their husband’s. We seem to have regressed in ways I doubted could happen at the time.

        • earlofhuntingdon says:

          One option back in the day was for both spouses to agree on a new last name that they both adopted.

        • PeaceRme says:

          Laughing. When my ex tried to sue me for custody of my two oldest kids, they made a big deal about all my “aliases” I stuck with my exes last name while oldest were at school cause teachers wouldn’t answer me but would answer my ex. Kids had his name. Then I hyphenated, and finally dropped the ex’s name. It felt yucky to keep the ex’s name instead of my maiden name. But license said ex’s name. Gawd it’s true what a headache! Plus I am a Mary Kathleen, called Katie. That adds another few aliases. So true!! They were tryn to make me look like a criminal. The lawyer kept drawing attention to my all my names.

    • SteveBev says:

      A Joan Peugh 29 ( in consulting and financial advisory employed by Rosemont Seneca) married a Johnathan Mayer 32 (in real estate) in a glamorous wedding at Park Hyatt Hotel DC 15 Nov 2014

    • emptywheel says:

      That likely is a clue to what the technical nature of this was.

      It would mean the resent email pulled from a contact list that had been updated in the interim.

      I’ve already got real questions about whether the contact list was altered in more significant way before that.

      • Rayne says:

        I don’t know enough about iOS apps but my gut says somebody used a sync feature, possibly looking for more new data, and in doing so refreshed a contact name.

        • emptywheel says:

          Yes. That is my suspicion.

          There are all sorts of weird automatic email releases in the email set. Big tells.

        • zscoreUSA says:

          In order for a sync feature to work, doesn’t the account need to be logged in with current password? Would it be weird for the same password be used after a year and a half? With all of the devices that are lost and new devices logged into not needing to click “forgot password” and create a new one? That would be impressive to me.

          A couple of other interesting issues, there is a PDF of a Burisma-related email “Urgent Issues” that was saved a bit after midnight 10/9/19, so hours after Parnas was arrested and a few hours before that news became public, and after Mac Isaac had possession of the laptop, theoretically before it made its way to Rudy.
          https://pdfa.org/hunter-bidens-email-and-the-potential-for-deepfakes-with-pdf/

          And the Dimetrelos Report records that on 2/10/19 an email from 2018 being saved in a nested folder, an email which contains a Burisma related signature. Though that was a period before Hunter allegedly turned over the laptop, there is not a reason provided why Hunter would be re-saving the 2018 signature scan attachment email or looking for his own signature.
          (paragraph 45: https://www.scribd.com/document/575556723/Final-Hunter-Biden-Laptop-Report-Redacted

        • emptywheel says:

          Yes, you and I have talked about that 10/10/19 one, and I promise you I’ve got a 70% written post on it. Not to ruin my punchline, but you’ll note that JPMI said he sent Rudy a note on 10/8/19 that by logic should have had that 10/10/19 PDF in it. JPMI has never, AFAIK, produced that note to Rudy.

          I’m agnostic about which parts of the timeline JPMI got right and which the FBI did. But that PDF suggests that JPMI switched that date.

          As to the February stuff: There is a technical explanation that does not involve others. There is one that requires others. I think the latter is more likely but, again, without subpoena power, I can’t prove I’m right. There is a bunch in the January to February 2019 period that is consistent with Hunter being hacked.

        • zscoreUSA says:

          I definitely look forward to reading that upcoming article.

          Though Mac Isaac does not claim to have “sent” the letter to Rudy in October 2019. He claims to have wrote it and printed it out on October 8, 2019. But gave to a friend along with a copy of the hard drive, as an insurance plan to give to Rudy in case of emergency. Hunter mentions in his Delaware lawsuit w Mac Isaac.

          Mac Isaac, nearly a year later gave that copy to Costello after his alleged first overtures/communications with Rudy/Costello, which was through Rudy’s website.

        • emptywheel says:

          Also: Re the password. Remember that Hunter didn’t know his laptop had been stolen until October 2020.

        • zscoreUSA says:

          I’m talking about password changing just from everyday usage, getting new devices and adding accounts and not remembering passwords, etc, not from suspecting account compromise. He has gone through a lot of devices.

        • emptywheel says:

          Yes. But with many of them, he did not change his password afterwards. That’s why it might be impossible to answer who packaged up Hunter’s stuff: because for the year leading up to the laptop being dropped off, numerous people got his stuff, and you can never tell whether they were just another junkie or someone sent to compromise him.

        • Rayne says:

          I don’t know how a sync feature works in iOS apps. Syncing isn’t necessarily the same as updating data (ie. re-attaching a device to a network to retrieve new/recent mail); the former would match all local and remote data where the latter would merely append existing with new data since the last dated file. Both, IMO, would require a password.

          But I think there are a couple other compounding factors, one of which I noted to Marcy wrt a change in Google Calendar wrt emailed notifications. The devices in question, all of them whether hard drives in/out of laptops, iPads/tablets, or phones, were subject to application updates by both iOS and Google depending on the apps used and settings on the devices. Did automatic app updates cause any of the differences in data? Did forced/pulled updates? Did cross-platform updates affect the data presentation? Did differences in settings regarding app updates affect how different devices handled data (ie. one device may have automatic app updates, another may have updates on demand only).

          That said, I don’t think updates explain the resent 2016 email. Footers which contain meta data shouldn’t change with app updates. Updates also do not have anything to do with the PDF and the signature you’ve cited — they’re off the beaten path for app updates.

      • Savage Librarian says:

        Oh, that makes sense. I enjoyed the thread about the names. I don’t have anything to add to that, except that 40+ years ago I knew someone who wasn’t named Peugh but was named Pugh. And, ironically, when I moved away, he sent me a letter with a dick pic! A Polaroid. LOL.

      • Estragon says:

        Would that imply that the re-sent email came from a computer that also had a Rosemont Seneca email account? Or at least a computer that had exchanged further emails with Joan in the intervening period?

        As an example, today I emailed with a catering person at a local restaurant— several years back I had done the same. While the email address was the same, the name in quotations was the former holder of that position (someone I had emailed pre-Covid). So the name doesn’t get updated automatically until you email them again.

        I apologize in advance to the more tech savvy if this question makes little/no sense.

        • emptywheel says:

          I can go back and look, but I think Hunter’s contact book changed when her last name did.

          One thing I’m obsessed about is that as the laptop was being packaged up, the contacts were restored, from something. So it would have been easy to make it appear like some messages from say, John, were actually from Julie.

  8. harpie says:

    Marcy, above:

    It’s a [9/1/20 20:18] resent version of an email sent in [9/21/16 8:56] 2016 (DDOS says that a footer was also altered). [LINK]

    That LINK is really interesting, especially the included TimeLine,
    which I’m in the process of comparing to #J6TL.

    Release: Hunter Biden emails (3.6 GB) DDoSecrets identifies signs of altered or implanted emails in the dataset distributed by Trump allies. We are mirroring the data with significant warnings // DISTRIBUTED DENIAL OF SECRETS https://ddosecrets.substack.com/p/release-hunter-biden-emails-36-gb MAY 21, 2022

    • harpie says:

      The dates of the changes noted in that TL:

      9/28/19 Creation date of some of the PDF files used in the 10/14/20 NYP story
      10/10/19 Creation date of some of the PDF files used in the 10/14/20 NYP story

      ******

      8/31/20 Creation of two blank email replies to a 2014 email on the topic of a recommendation letter
      9/1/20 Creation of two draft emails; they are added to the cache as a reply to an email from 2014
      9/1/20 Creation of new folders on their copy of the laptop drive [WaPo]
      9/2/20 Creation of more new folders on their copy of the laptop drive [WaPo]
      9/2/20 Creation of a variation of a Burisma email from 2016; it is added to the cache. A phone number in the footer of the email is redacted and replaced with “Sent from my iPad”
      10/XX/20 Addition of three more directories; someone from a West Coast location [Nunes?] may have accessed the copy of the drive that WaPo later analyzed.
      11/3/20 [ELECTION DAY] Creation of two blank emails which are inserted with no recipient, subject or body

      • zscoreUSA says:

        “…Sent from my iPad” ?

        Interesting. Has there been any other instance of an iPad coming up in the time period after the alleged drop off at the Mac Shop in April 2019? I can’t seem to think of any.

        According to the Dimitrelos Report, there were 3 devices trusted to the icloud account as of mid March 2019. There was an iPad listed, that along with the Mac Isaac laptop, has a “Device Last Heartbeat IP” address which is at Ablow’s Cottage rental where Hunter had left in early February.

  9. The Old Redneck says:

    I must be missing something. How could Shellenberger possibly know whether the laptop data held by the NY Post matched up to the laptop data held by the FBI? It sounds like Goldman allowed himself to get thrown off his own question, which was a valid one.

    That’s without getting into the ways in which both could have been contaminated before, as EW and others have rightly pointed out.

    • Rugger_9 says:

      A very good question indeed, because as far as I know Schellenberger is not part of any ‘need to know’ circle. I could be wrong about that.

      • The Old Redneck says:

        He is a fringe alt-right journalist. If he has access to FBI investigative material, it’s news to me.

        • Bill_05DEC2023_2146h says:

          He is also a science denialist, notorious for making things up about climate change and practical mitigation strategies.

          [Welcome to emptywheel. Please choose and use a unique username with a minimum of 8 letters. We are moving to a new minimum standard to support community security. Because your username is far too short and common (there are many Bill/Will/William in this community) it will be temporarily changed to match the date/time of your first known comment until you have a new compliant username. Thanks. /~Rayne]

  10. earlofhuntingdon says:

    Shellenberger has his logic backwards, not unusual, I suppose, for a colleague of Matt Taibbi. He’s the one who has to establish the genuineness of the laptop and/or its hard drive(s), in order to use them in his “journalism.” The conspiracy theory is that he needn’t do that, that he can just take their accuracy as fact until proven otherwise. That’s true whether the materials are used in civil/criminal court or in a headline.

    • Old Rapier says:

      I was going to ask a few hours ago who at the FBI would order a review of this whole thing concerning the handling of the ‘laptop’ from the get go, and for that matter why haven’t they? Is it off limits now because of Weiss? Well nobody is better at CYA probably than the FBI.

  12. WilliamOckham says:

    I’m about halfway convinced that this whole series of posts is just Marcy’s attempt to get me to download that DDOS file and start working my way through it. And I’m almost there. That faked? email from 2020 is fascinating. Nothing about it makes any sense. It’s not remotely credible. Sure, Hunter Biden responded to an email from 2016 in 2020. Nor is it credible that someone deliberately faked the email to make it look like that’s what happened.

    Sure, there were idiots involved in this caper. But who was the idiot who could and would accomplish this ridiculous fake? Rudolph “Mr. ButtDialer” Guiliani? Garrett “Peter Navarro’s Errand Boy” Ziegler? This is the equivalent of trying to pass off a letter from 1923 that refers to “World War I” instead of “the Great War”.

    • emptywheel says:

      One thing I’m obsessed by — no one else is, AFAIK — is that there are automatic alerts, starting in 2017, about landscapers coming, set off a Google Calendar entry.

      Alert – FYI landscapers at CBR (usually in AM)

      They alternate between being sent FROM Google Calendar or FROM Hunter himself, and they don’t alternate in any way that makes sense to me.

      Those are some of the most recent emails in Ziegler’s set (the same one DDOS has). So something someone did triggered those google alerts long after Hunter lost the laptop.

      But one reason I’m especially obsessed with it is that Google alerts appear to be one of the things the IRS got from the laptop, instead of from Google itself.

      https://www.emptywheel.net/2023/11/11/the-kinds-of-laptop-documents-the-hunter-biden-investigation-used/

      • Rayne says:

        Pretty sure there’s both a timing issue and an interoperability issue here wrt Google Calendar entries.

        In 2018 Google changed how it notified non-Google Calendar users, which might explain some of the quirks but I don’t think it changes the disparity between FROM originators. Link below refers to Google Workspace, but IIRC this applied to more than that product.

        https://workspaceupdates.googleblog.com/2018/10/non-google-calendar-users-receive-email-updates.html

        Unfortunately I can’t find anything in my Gmail accounts to confirm this change because I deleted all emailed alerts related to Calendar events.

        Wondering, though, if the product change affected how the notices appeared in email AND if syncing email through Apple iOS device may also have changed appearance. Not being an iOS user I can’t say.

        • emptywheel says:

          Pretty sure those are the right questions to ask.

          And all the anomalous stuff starts pre-2018. Same with the anomaly in my f-up on anomalies.

  13. Konny_2022 says:

    FWIW, I took the 10-digit numbers in the respective footer to a timestamp converter. Here’s the outcome:

    Mail of 2016-09-21,Cc to “Joan Mayer”,

    conversation-id 120878 date-last-viewed 1638868257 date-received 1599005920 flags 8623685697

    “date-received” = Wed Sep 02 2020 00:18:40 GMT+0000,
    “date-last-viewed” = Tue Dec 07 2021 09:10:57 GMT+0000.

    Mail of 2020-09-01, Cc to “Joan Peugh”,

    –001allc1122a252dd2053d033dd0– conversation-id 57998 date-last-viewed 0 date-received 1474459003 flags 8590195715 remote-id 8054

    “date-received” = Wed Sep 21 2016 11:56:43 GMT+0000, never viewed.

    The hours for the respective time zone (plus 1 hour for DST in September) have to be subtracted.

    • Savage Librarian says:

      Logically, it seems like the results should be flipped or just the opposite of what you learned. But maybe there is some other clue hidden in this data.

      • Konny_2022 says:

        You’re right, it should be the other way around. I’m sorry for the mix-up.

        Correction:

        Mail of 2016-09-21,Cc to “Joan Mayer” — “date-received” = Wed Sep 21 2016 11:56:43 GMT+0000, never viewed.

        Mail of 2020-09-01, Cc to “Joan Peugh” — “date-received” = Wed Sep 02 2020 00:18:40 GMT+0000,
        “date-last-viewed” = Tue Dec 07 2021 09:10:57 GMT+0000.

        I’m sorry for the mix-up. (That’s why I included the original footers, so that anybody could check.)

        I was just wondering if the “last viewed” date of the most likely faked mail, 12/07/2021, may provide some additioneal clue.

        • emptywheel says:

          Yeah, the 2021 date is Ziegler’s access, I think. A ton of the emails have last modified dates in 2021.

      • Konny_2022 says:

        Yes, I’m sorry. See my reply to Savage Librarian. (Obviously it was a little bit too much of copying, text recognition, another copying, then combining the quotes with the results from the time stamp converter for the comment.)

  14. Greg Hunter says:

    Michael Shellenberger, Alex Epstein, Peter Thiel, Elon Musk, JD Vance and the rest of the tech bros crowd all seem to be on the same page with our adversaries to the point that it seems planned. Clinton Cash has evolved into more subtle books, articles, talking tours that have no counterpoint from the left.

  15. harpie says:

    TL connecting with
    1] my comment above
    2] The FORMER GUY’s PURLOINED PAPERS #TFGPP [listed by DATE] [**] = returned in June 2021
    https://www.emptywheel.net/2023/06/14/trump-and-nautas-release-conditions/#comment-997540
    3] TRUMP Twitter Archive https://www.thetrumparchive.com/

    *******
    3/28/18 The original ‘Macintosh HD’ drive was created.
    8/XX/18 BANNON FIRST employed by Guo Wengui [digital media outlet G News]

    3/17/19 Cutoff point of the data allegedly from the laptops. The LATEST date supposed to be present in the files.
    4/12/19 Laptops allegedly dropped off for repair.
    [“As early as”] 4/13/19 [Abbe LOWELL]: MAC ISAAC begins “accessing what he claims he had in his possession as Mr. Biden’s data”
    4/25/19 BIDEN announces 2020 White House bid
    MAY 2019 #TFGPP [These are the FIRST of 2019]:

    4. 5/6/19 White House intelligence briefing (TS/SPECIALHANDLING)

    UNDATED [in proximity]:
    3. [UND] military capabilities of foreign country with Sharpie annotation

    5/XX/19 Late Alleged Hunter Biden emails are offered to people in Ukraine

    7/25/19 TRUMP’s “perfect” [EXTORTION] call with President ZELENSKYY of UKRAINE
    TRUMP:“I would like you to do us a favor, though.”

    AUGUST 2019 #TFGPP:

    22. 8/XX/19 [**] concerning regional military activity of a foreign country (TS/XX/RSEN/ORCON/NOFORN)
    23. 8/30/19 [**] White House intelligence briefing with Sharpie (TS/SPECIAL HANDLING)

    UNDATED [in proximity]:
    19.[UND] document concerning nuclear weaponry of US (S/FR)
    20. [UND] document concerning timeline and details of attack in foreign country (TS/XX/ORCON/NOFORN)
    21. [UND] doc concerning military capabilities of foreign countries (S/NOFORN)
    24. [UND] [**] doc concerning military activity of a foreign country (TS/HCS-P/SI/ORCON-USGOV/NOFORN)

    8/XX/19 BANNON employed again by Guo Wengui [digital media outlet G News] as a senior editor
    8/2719 This is the FIRST mention of Hunter Biden on TRUMP’s Twitter archive
    [LINK in next comment]

    12:28 PM TRUMP RT’s Kellyanne CONWAY
    @KellyannePolls 11:34PM Aug 27, 2019 Messy.
    [Link to Washington Examiner] John Kerry’s son cut business ties with Hunter Biden over Ukrainian oil deal

    • harpie says:

      TRUMP Twitter Archive mentions of HUNTER 8/27/19 – 9/28/19: https://www.thetrumparchive.com/?searchbox=%22hunter%22&dates=%5B%222019-08-25%22%2C%222019-09-29%22%5D&results=1 []

      *******
      9/XX/19 Mid A SECOND person in Ukraine is approached about alleged Hunter Biden emails. There is reportedly a plan to sell the data to allies of President Trump.

      TRUMP Twitter Archive mentions of “Hunter”:

      9/22/19 9:39 AM “The real story involves Hunter Biden going around the world and collecting large payments from foreign governments and foreign oligarchs.” Peter Schweizer Laura Ingraham Hunter made a fortune in Ukraine and in China. He knew nothing about Energy, or anything else.

      9/24/19 PELOSI initiates abuse of power inquiry into TRUMP after a whistleblower alerts Congress

      TRUMP Twitter Archive mentions of “Hunter”:

      9/25/19 4:17 PM I have informed @GOPLeader Kevin McCarthy and all Republicans in the House that I fully support transparency on so-called whistleblower information but also insist on transparency from Joe Biden and his son Hunter, on the millions of dollars that have been quickly and easily…. / ….taken out of Ukraine and China. Additionally, I demand transparency from Democrats that went to Ukraine and attempted to force the new President to do things that they wanted under the form of political threat.

      9/26/19 7:03 AM TRUMP RT’s Ari FLEISCHER [from 9/25/19 11:22 AM] who quotes Marc THIESSEN 9/24/19 WaPo Opinion
      @AriFleischer: “Hunter took the position with a Ukrainian natural gas company just a few weeks after his father visited Ukraine in 2014 to urge its government to increase its natural gas production. Hunter Biden had no expertise in Ukraine or natural gas.” [> 9/24/19 WaPo Opinion, THIESSEN: Democrats’ double standard on Ukraine Joe Biden’s son’s career is a clear conflict of interest. THIESSEN also mentions “Ukraine to China” [] THIESSEN also publishes this piece at American Enterprise Institute on 9/25/19]

      9/28/19 10:56 PM TRUMP RT’s
      @RNCResearch 9/24/19 11:40 AM: Ian Bremmer: “Biden does have a problem,” Hunter Biden was paid “clearly to be selling influence” [CNN VIDEO]

      9/28/19 FIRST [in TL] creation date of some of the PDF files used in the 10/14/20 NYP story

      [FYI – #TFGPP – adding tag /~Rayne]

    • Rayne says:

      Can help think that Ken Vogel-NYT stenographic May 9, 2019 article — three days after that White House intel briefing — on behalf of Giuliani “announcing” his intended trip to Ukraine was a deliberate head’s up to Rudy’s contacts in Ukraine to let them know 1) I am on my way with goods; 2) key people are watching, make this happen – get Zelenskyy on board.

      And then he had to cancel the trip…for later in May 2019? They had to change tactics and deploy Trump directly with the quid pro quo “perfect phone call” instead of Giuliani engaging Zelenskyy, but was [5/XX/19 Late Alleged Hunter Biden emails are offered to people in Ukraine] the handoff before the call?

      We’ve still not seen a full unedited transcript of the “perfect call.” Can’t help wonder if Trump made mention of investigative materials exchanged between Team Trump and persons in Ukraine.

      Nice work with TFG’s purloined papers, harpie! Thanks!

      • harpie says:

        Thanks so much for that insight, Rayne! I’m looking forward to seeing how much correcting and filling-in the community may be able to do with this.

    • harpie says:

      TRUMP Twitter Archive mentions of HUNTER 9/2819 – 11/1/19:
      https://www.thetrumparchive.com/?searchbox=%22hunter%22&dates=%5B%222019-09-28%22%2C%222019-11-01%22%5D&results=1

      *******
      OCTOBER 2019 #TFGPP [There were NONE dated in SEPTEMBER]:

      8. 10/4/19 military capabilities of foreign country (S/REL TO USA FVY)
      30. 10/15/19 [**] concerning military activity (TS/XX/ORCON/NOFORN/FISA)
      28. 10/18/19 [**] White House intelligence briefing (TS/SPECIAL HANDLING)
      29. 10/18/19 [**] military capabilities (TS/XX/SI/TK/ORCON/NOFORN)
      25. 10/24/19 [**] military activity of foreign countries and US (TS/HCS-P/SI-ORCON-USGOV/NOFORN)

      UNDATED [in proximity]
      9. [UND] document concerning military attacks by foreign country (TS/XX/XX/ORCON/NOFORN/FISA)
      19. [UND] document concerning nuclear weaponry of US (S/FR)
      20. [UND] document concerning timeline and details of attack in foreign country (TS/XX/ORCON/NOFORN)
      21. [UND] doc concerning military capabilities of foreign countries (S/NOFORN)
      24. [UND] [**] doc concerning military activity of a foreign country (TS/HCS-P/SI/ORCON-USGOV/NOFORN)

      TRUMP Twitter Archive mentions of “Hunter” [+ China] [10/1/19 – 10/6/19]:

      10/1/19 6:54 AM Congratulations to President Xi and the Chinese people on the 70th Anniversary of the People’s Republic of China!

      10/1/19 10:13 AM TRUMP RT’s
      @JesseBWatters [9/30/19 6:01 PM]: Biden’s caught lying about Ukraine…hiding who was on board with Hunter. #TheFive [VIDEO]

      10/3/19 6:37 AM “The Ukraine controversy continues this morning as new documents obtained by @FoxNews show that a former Ukrainian prosecutor said that he was forced to back off looking into a firm tied to Hunter Biden.” @MariaBartiromo Does anyone other than Fake News protectors have a doubt?

      10/3/19 8:07 AM RT @TrumpWarRoom: NBC News reports that Hunter Biden met with a Chinese banker while joining then-VP Joe Biden’s official 2013 trip to China. // Hunter Biden was attempting to form a Chinese privet equity fund. // Just 10 days after the trip Chinese authorities issued the funds business license.

      10/6/19 10:58 AM It is INCREDIBLE to watch and read the Fake News and how they pull out all stops to protect Sleepy Joe Biden and his thrown out of the Military son, Hunter, who was handed $100,000 a month (Plus,Plus) from a Ukrainian based company, even though he had no experience in energy,… / ….and separately got 1.5 Billion Dollars from China despite no experience and for no apparent reason. There is NO WAY these can be legitimate transactions? As lawyers & others have stated, as President, I have an OBLIGATION to look into possible, or probable, CORRUPTION!

      10/6/19 12:42 PM The Biden family was PAID OFF, pure and simple! The fake news must stop making excuses for something that is totally inexcusable. Sleepy Joe said he never spoke to the Ukrainian company, and then the picture came out where he was playing golf with the company boss and Hunter….. / ….And by the way, I would LOVE running against 1% Joe Biden – I just don’t think it’s going to happen. Sleepy Joe won’t get to the starting gate, & based on all of the money he & his family probably “extorted,” Joe should hang it up. I wouldn’t want him dealing with China & U!

      10/8/19 Mac Isaac’s father meets with the FBI. The FBI advise Mac Isaac Sr. to get a lawyer and clarify the legal ownership of the laptop and his rights to it. Mac Isaac and his father interpret this instruction as a brush-off.

      TRUMP Twitter Archive mentions of “Hunter”:

      10/9/19 1:55 PM So pathetic to see Sleepy Joe Biden, who with his son, Hunter, and to the detriment of the American Taxpayer, has ripped off at least two countries for millions of dollars, calling for my impeachment – and I did nothing wrong. Joe’s Failing Campaign gave him no other choice!

      10/10/19 9:12 AM Where is Hunter Biden? He has disappeared while the Fake News protects his Crooked daddy! [RT’s Eric TRUMP: Board members of Exxon Mobil (one of the worlds largest and most prestigious energy companies) make $330,000 annually. // Hunter Biden, with no industry knowledge or duties, was being paid $600,000 annually. // All of this while the average annual salary in Ukraine is $1700 per year.]

      10/10/19 Creation date of some of the PDF files used in the 10/14/20 NYP story

      TRUMP Twitter Archive mentions of “Hunter”:

      10/11/19 10:58 PM WHERE’S HUNTER?
      10/13/19 10:15 AM Where’s Hunter? He has totally disappeared! Now looks like he has raided and scammed even more countries! Media is AWOL.

      10/13/19 7:09 PM .@marklevinshow on @FoxNews is doing a big show tonight on the Democrat’s Impeachment Scam. 10:00 P.M. No guests, just Mark. He is angry (like so many others!). At 9:00 P.M. on @FoxNews, Steve Hilton is looking into the Crooked Bidens. Where’s Hunter?

      10/14/19 12:18 PM Wow! Hunter Biden is being forced to leave a Chinese Company. Now watch the Fake News wrap their greasy and very protective arms around him. Only softball questions of him please!

      10/14/19 8:21 PM A big scandal at @ABC News. They got caught using really gruesome FAKE footage of the Turks bombing in Syria. A real disgrace. Tomorrow they will ask softball questions to Sleepy Joe Biden’s son, Hunter, like why did Ukraine & China pay you millions when you knew nothing? Payoff?

      10/15/19 11:14 AM Hunter Biden was really bad on @GMA. Now Sleepy Joe has real problems! Reminds me of Crooked Hillary and her 33,000 deleted Emails, not recoverable!

      10/23/19 6:59 AM TRUMP RT’s [Ronna MCDANIEL]
      @GOPChairwoman 10/22/19 7:54 AM The only value Hunter Biden brought to the table was access to his father, then-VP Joe Biden. // Democrats and the media don’t want to talk about that corruption. // @realDonaldTrump is right to call it out! [VIDEO]

      10/28/19 4:47 PM TRUMP RT’s Scott ADAMS
      @scottadamsshow 10/28/19 1:44 PM Crooked Impeachment Witness Bill Taylor Led Ukraine Delegation for Group Advised by Hunter Biden. Taylor also initiated fake “contemporaneous” texts & cables in both the Firtash case & in support of the Trump WB hoax. [> 10/28/19 Aaron KLEIN, BREITBART link]

    • harpie says:

      TRUMP Twitter Archive mentions of HUNTER 10/31/19 – 1/1/20
      https://www.thetrumparchive.com/?searchbox=%22hunter%22&dates=%5B%222019-10-31%22%2C%222020-01-01%22%5D&results=1 []

      *******
      NOVEMBER 2019 #TFGPP

      26. 11/7/19 [**] military activity (TS/XX/ORCON/NOFORN/FISA)
      27. 11/XX/19 [**] military activity of foreign countries (TS/SI/TK/NOFORN)

      UNDATED [in proximity]
      24. [UND] [**] doc concerning military activity of a foreign country (TS/HCS-P/SI/ORCON-USGOV/NOFORN)]

      11/7/19 BANNON speaks at the New York Young Republicans Club [NYYRC], where he meets Vish BURRA, one of the officers.
      BANNON [invoking Napoleon]: “When you set out to take Vienna, take Vienna.”

      TRUMP Twitter Archive mentions of “Hunter” [+ some “China”] [11/7/19 – 11/24/19]

      11/7/19 9:51 AM “What did Hunter Biden do for the money?” @SenJohnKennedy A very good question. He and Sleepy Joe must testify!

      11/10/19 9:30 PM TRUMP RT’s JORDAN
      @Jim_Jordan 6:37 PM · Nov 9, 2019: Republicans have requested a list of witnesses for the impeachment hearings (alphabetical order): // -Devon Archer // -Hunter Biden // -Alexandra Chalupa // -David Hale // -Tim Morrison // -Nellie Ohr // -Amb. Volker // -The “Whistleblower” & their sources // Will @RepAdamSchiff permit them to testify?

      11/11/19 9:25 AM “The Chinese say (about Trump’s Trade War & Tariffs), ‘he brought us to the table.’ This is the most prosperous economy the world has ever seen, and it’s going to be a very prosperous economy.” Jamie Dimon on @60Minutes Thank you President Trump & the Republican Party!

      11/14/19 11:52 PM Democrats must apologize to USA: Ukrainian Foreign Minister Vadym Prystaiko said that “United States Ambassador Gordon Sondland did NOT link financial military assistance to a request for Ukraine to open up an investigation into former V.P. Joe Biden & his son, Hunter Biden….. / ….Ambassador Sondland did not tell us, and certainly did not tell me, about a connection between the assistance and the investigation.” THE FAKE IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY IS NOW DEAD!

      11/15/19 3:39 AM TRUMP RT’s STEFANIK
      [deleted] @EliseStefanik: Obama’s own State Dept. was so concerned about conflicts of interest from Hunter Biden’s role at Burisma that they raise…

      11/24/19 2:30 PM TRUMP RT’s Mollie HEMINGWAY
      @MZHemingway: Oh dear. Hunter Biden-linked company received $130M in special federal loans while Joe Biden was vice president [Washington Examiner LINK]

      DECEMBER 2019 #TFGPP

      16. 12/XX/19 concerning foreign country support of terrorist attacks against US interests (S/ORCON/NOFORN)

      UNDATED [in proximity]
      11. [UND] document concerning military contingency planning of US (no marking)
      12. [UND] document concerning projected regional military capabilities of foreign country (S/REL to USA/FVEY)
      13. [UND] document concerning military capabilities of foreign country and United States (TS/SI/TK/NOFORN)]

      12/XX/19 BURRA begins working for BANNON’s War Room podcast

      TRUMP Twitter Archive mentions of “Hunter” [+ some “China”]

      12/8/19 11:50 AM .@SenTedCruz “The Democrats are now admitting that they can’t prove a crime, they can’t prove a law was violated, and here’s why. Any president, any administration, is justified in investigating corruption, and there was serious evidence of real corruption concerning Hunter…. / ….Biden on the board of the largest natural gas company in Ukraine, getting paid $83,000 a month, 10 times as much as a board member of @exxonmobil.” Thank you Ted. He also made a fortune from China and others, but zero before his father became V.P. @MeetThePress

      12/9/19 FBI takes possession of laptop
      12/9/19 When asked about meeting Giuliani, MAC ISAAC indicated he didn’t want to talk about the time between “December 9th [12/9/19] and the beginning of September.” [9/XX/20 early]

      12/13/19 Hunter Biden investigators obtain “T26 SW [search warrant] signed by SA [redacted] for laptop and external hard drive”, and present “a filter protocol to the magistrate with the SW] [From details of handling of “Hunter Biden” “laptop”]

      12/14/19 From DURHAM logistics guy, Will LEVI, to BARR: [12:47 PM] Laptop on way to you. // BARR [“Me”]: Super

      12/18/19 The first TRUMP impeachment hearings BEGIN.
      According to Giuliani, Mac Isaac gave the laptops’ data to COSTELLO “around this time”.

      12/19/19 MAC ISAAC surrenders the laptops to the FBI.

      TRUMP Twitter Archive mentions of “Hunter” [+ some “China”]

      12/31/19 6:16 AM The Democrats will do anything to avoid a trial in the Senate in order to protect Sleepy Joe Biden, and expose the millions and millions of dollars that “Where’s” Hunter, & possibly Joe, were paid by companies and countries for doing NOTHING. Joe wants no part of this mess!

    • harpie says:

      TRUMP Twitter Archive mentions of HUNTER 1/1/20 – 3/1/20 https://www.thetrumparchive.com/?results=1&searchbox=%22hunter%22&dates=%5B%222019-12-31%22%2C%222020-03-01%22%5D

      *******
      JANUARY 2020 #TFGPP

      14. 1/XX/20 concerning military options of a foreign country (S/ORCON/NOFORN)
      17. 1/XX/20 concerning military capabilities of foreign country (TS/XX/TK/ORCON/IMCON/NOFORN)

      UNDATED [in proximity]
      11. [UND] document concerning military contingency planning of US (no marking)
      12. [UND] document concerning projected regional military capabilities of foreign country (S/REL to USA/FVEY)
      13. [UND]document concerning military capabilities of foreign country and United States (TS/SI/TK/NOFORN)

      TRUMP Twitter Archive mentions of “Hunter”

      1/24/20 6:42 AM “He’s got to explain this. How did Hunter Biden get a billion and a half dollars (from China) to invest when he’d been in business for 60 days?” @LindseyGrahamSC @FoxNews

      1/25/20 BANNON launches “War Room: Pandemic” podcast; Vish BURRA works for BANNON on the War Room podcast for most of 2020

      TRUMP Twitter Archive mentions of “Hunter”

      1/27/20 10:24 PM TRUMP RT’s HAWLEY
      @HawleyMO 1/27/20 9:45 AM: I say again: if the Senate is going to call witnesses, then I will ask to hear from Adam Schiff, Hunter Biden, Joe Biden & the whistleblower, at a minimum [VIDEO]

      1/28/20 10:07 AM TRUMP RT’s CRUZ
      @SenTedCruz 1/27/20 7:04 PM: Why should the American people care about Hunter Biden & #Burisma? // The answer is simple: there is significant evidence of corruption. // WATCH Pam Bondi break down #BurismaBiden. [VIDEO]

      FEBRUARY 2020 #TFGPP

      15. 2/XX/20 concerning policies in a foreign country (S/ORCON/NOFORN)

      UNDATED [in proximity]
      11. [UND] document concerning military contingency planning of US (no marking)
      12. [UND] document concerning projected regional military capabilities of foreign country (S/REL to USA/FVEY)
      13. [UND] document concerning military capabilities of foreign country and United States (TS/SI/TK/NOFORN)]

      2/5/20 Impeachment ENDS with Senate vote to acquit TRUMP

      TRUMP Twitter Archive mentions of “Hunter”

      2/9/20 11:07 AM TRUMP RT’s Big League Politics:
      @bigleaguepol 2/5/20 4:48 PM: Mitt Romney has stabbed Trump in the back and will join Democrats in their shameful attempt to overturn an election. // Mitt may think it’s payback… // BUT Utah is preparing a process to #RECALLMITT! // It would be a shame if this story went viral. [LINK] / @KimStrassel Mitt Romney is tied to Hunter Biden’s Burisma corruption. // This is why he’s bent over backwards for the media with this show “guilty” vote. // He doesn’t want this story EXPOSED!

      2/18/20 Bernie KERIK pardon

    • harpie says:

      TRUMP Twitter Archive mentions of HUNTER 3/1/20 – 7/16/20
      https://www.thetrumparchive.com/?searchbox=%22hunter%22&dates=%5B%222020-03-01%22%2C%222020-06-30%22%5D&results=1

      *******
      MARCH 2020 #TFGPP

      18. 3/XX/20 concerning military operations against US forces (S/NOFORN)

      UNDATED [in proximity]
      19. [UND] document concerning nuclear weaponry of US (S/FR)
      20. [UND] document concerning timeline and details of attack in foreign country (TS/XX/ORCON/NOFORN)
      21. [UND] doc concerning military capabilities of foreign countries (S/NOFORN)
      24. [UND] [**] doc concerning military activity of a foreign country (TS/HCS-P/SI/ORCON-USGOV/NOFORN)

      TRUMP Twitter Archive mentions of “Hunter”

      3/9/20 7:11 AM TRUMP RT’s Charlie KIRK
      @charliekirk11 9:25 PM · Mar 8, 2020: Hunter Biden & @DonaldJTrumpJr should debate to see who is really grifting off their dad’s time in office // Hunter is a 50 y/o man—he should be able to defend his actions // Don has been falsely accused of doing exactly what Biden has // It’s time to set the record straight // RT!

      3/9/20 7:16 AM TRUMP RT’s Charlie KIRK
      @charliekirk11 11:16 PM · Mar 5, 2020: Mitt Romney may block a subpoena to investigate Hunter Biden & Burisma // He says the investigation “looks political” // …Yet when it comes to the MOST partisan impeachment trial in history, Romney votes to convict President Trump? // He is a disgrace to the United States Senate // RT!

      3/23/20 8:25 AM TRUMP RT’s
      @thebradfordfile [May have been deleted]: NEVER FORGET — While Joe Biden was giving Hunter a ride to China on Air Force Two to close a $1.5 billion deal with…

      5/14/20 10:11 PM TRUMP RT’s Sara CARTER //
      @SaraCarterDC 3:30 PM · May 14, 2020: #BREAKING Jordan Requests Pompeo Turn Over Explosive Docs Exposing Alleged ‘Whistleblower’ And Hunter Biden [LINK]

      5/26/20 11:59 PM TRUMP RT’s Gregg JARRETT
      @GreggJarrett 4:01 PM · May 23, 2020: Yovanovitch Misleading in ’19 Impeachment Testimony; GOP Requests All Documents on Burisma and Hunter Biden [LINK]

      JUNE 2020 #TFGPP [The LAST month of DATED documents]

      5. 6/XX/20 concerning nuclear capabilities of foreign country (TS/XX/XX/ORCON/NOFORN)
      6. 6/4/20 White House intelligence briefing (TS/SPECIAL HANDLING)

      UNDATED [in proximity]
      3. [UND] military capabilities of foreign country with Sharpie annotation
      9. [UND] document concerning military attacks by foreign country (TS/XX/XX/ORCON/NOFORN/FISA)

      TRUMP Twitter Archive mentions of “Hunter”

      6/28/20 7:28 AM Nobody briefed or told me, @VP Pence, or Chief of Staff @MarkMeadows about the so-called attacks on our troops in Afghanistan by Russians, as reported through an “anonymous source” by the Fake News @nytimes. Everybody is denying it & there have not been many attacks on us….. / …Nobody’s been tougher on Russia than the Trump Administration. With Corrupt Joe Biden & Obama, Russia had a field day, taking over important parts of Ukraine – Where’s Hunter? Probably just another phony Times hit job, just like their failed Russia Hoax. Who is their “source”?

      7/10/20 TRUMP commutes STONE’s sentence “days before he was to have reported to a federal prison in Georgia” [clemency]

      TRUMP Twitter Archive mentions of “Hunter”

      7/16/20 10:36 PM TRUMP RT’s HANNITY
      @seanhannity 8:45 PM · Jul 16, 2020: Where Is Hunter? [Photo]

      8/XX/20 According to a court filing, MAC ISAAC contacts GIULIANI’s lawyer, COSTELLO

      8/3/20 Eric HERSCHMANN begins work at WH as Senior Advisor to TRUMP [He remains until 1/20/21]

    • harpie says:

      TRUMP Twitter Archive mentions of HUNTER 9/5/20 – 10/30/20
      https://www.thetrumparchive.com/?searchbox=%22hunter%22&dates=%5B%222020-07-15%22%2C%222020-11-03%22%5D&results=1 []

      *******
      8/24/20 – 8/28/20 REPUBLICAN NATIONAL CONVENTION

      8/24/20 USA Today: JUNIOR DON said [the ”Chinese Communist Party” wants “Beijing Biden” to win because he won’t be as tough on them as Trump is. He also blamed the disruption of economy on the coronavirus – which arrived “courtesy of the Chinese Communist Party.” […]

      8/27/20 […] according to the text of an email Costello shared, one of Giuliani’s assistants forwarded a strange tip that had come in through the contact portal on the Giuliani Partners website:

      From: John Paul Mac Isaac
      Subject: Why is it so difficult to be a whistle blower when you are on the right?
      For almost a year, I have been trying to get the contents of Hunter Biden’s laptop to the proper authorities.

      8/31/20 Creation of two blank email replies to a 2014 email on the topic of a recommendation letter

      9/1/20 Creation of two draft emails; they are added to the cache as a reply to an email from 2014

      9/1/20 Creation of new folders on their copy of the laptop drive [WaPo]

      9/2/20 Creation of more new folders on their copy of the laptop drive [WaPo]

      9/2/20 Creation of a variation of a Burisma email from 2016; it is added to the cache. A phone number in the footer of the email is redacted and replaced with “Sent from my iPad”

      9/XX/20 When Costello tells Snopes that he received the contents of the hard drive.

      9/XX/20 Early When asked about meeting Giuliani, MAC ISAAC indicated he didn’t want to talk about the time between “December 9th [12/9/19] and the beginning of September.” [9/XX/20 early]

      TRUMP Twitter Archive mentions of “Hunter” + “If Biden wins, China wins”

      9/7/20 9:53 AM Gordon Chang: China Seems ‘to Be Favoring Joe Biden‘ in Presidential Election [LINK] via @BreitbartNews. Of course they want Biden. I have taken $Billions from China and given it to our Farmers and U.S. Treasury. China would own the U.S. if Biden & Hunter got in!

      9/7/20 6:47 PM TRUMP RT’s
      @TVNewsHQ [Not found]: President Trump says the press “should be ashamed of themselves” for ignoring Hunter Biden allegedly using his father’s offic…

      9/8/20 TRUMP: [rally in NC]: “If Biden Wins, China Wins. It’s as Simple as That”

      TRUMP Twitter Archive mentions of “Hunter” + “If Biden wins, China wins”

      9/9/20 12:58:59 AM TRUMP RT’s Breitbart 9/8/20: Donald Trump: If Biden Wins, China Wins. It‘s as Simple as That

      9/9/20 1:15 AM TRUMP RT’s
      @TVNewsHQ [not found]: President Trump attacks Biden at tonight’s NC rally: “If Biden wins, China wins. It’s as simple as that,” and he slams @NC_Go…

      9/13/20 12:49 AM I am running for re-election to bring prosperity to Nevada, to put violent criminals behind bars, and to ensure the future belongs to AMERICA—NOT China. If we win, AMERICA WINS! If Biden wins, China wins. If Biden Wins, the rioters, anarchists, and arsonists win. VOTE! #MAGA

      9/15/20 8:25 PM TRUMP RT’s DOBBS
      @LouDobbs 6:25 PM · Sep 15, 2020: Biden Fraud: @jsolomonreports says we now have facts and evidence that the Obama State Dept. was concerned with Hunter Biden’s ties to Burisma. #AmericaFirst #MAGA #Dobbs [VIDEO]

      9/17/20 11:24 PM If Biden Wins, CHINA WINS. If Biden Wins, the mob WINS. If Biden Wins, the rioters, anarchists, arsonists, and flag-burners WIN. I am running for re-election to bring jobs and factories back to Wisconsin, to put violent criminals behind bars, and to ensure the future belongs… / …to America – NOT CHINA. Because if we win, AMERICA WINS. We built the greatest economy in the history of the world, and now we are doing it again!

      9/18/20 6:58 PM Joe Biden delivered remarks to union members after spending 47 years giving their jobs to China and foreign countries in exchange for campaign cash.. / …Biden is a corrupt globalist sellout who never missed a chance to stab American workers in the back. If Biden wins, China wins – it’s just that simple!

      9/21/20 US based Chinese influencer / YouTuber, LUDE to his 200,000 subscribers: there are “three hard drives” that contain explosive materials about Hunter Biden

      He alleges that the hard drives hold evidence of Hunter Biden’s secret deals in China and Ukraine, as well as sex tapes with graphic scenes of sexual abuse. // LUDE: “A fellow fighter of our whistleblowers’ movement got it” [] Those allegations were then extensively reported on GUO’s media outlets, GTV Media Group and G News.

      TRUMP on Twitter

      9/21/20 11:33 PM TRUMP RT’s JORDAN
      @Jim_Jordan 4:46 PM · Sep 18, 2020: Senate Democrats are wrong to smear Republicans for investigating the truth about Hunter Biden and Ukraine. // But we shouldn’t be surprised. // When you drain the Swamp, the Swamp fights back.

      9/22/20 9:20 PM I was honored to be back in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania with thousands of loyal, hardworking American Patriots. This election is a choice between Pennsylvania & China. If Biden wins, China wins. When we win, Pennsylvania Wins, and AMERICA WINS! #MAGA [LINK]

      9/24/20 12:36 PM Russian Billionaire wired Hunter Biden 3 1/2 Million Dollars. This on top of all of the other money he received while Joe was V.P. Crooked as can be, but Fake Mainstream Media wants it to just go away!

      9/25/20 7:14 AM TRUMP RT’s
      @RichValdes: Where’s Hunter? [LINK]

      9/25/20 […] Wang Dinggang—who at the time was a Guo ally with a YouTube channel called Lude Media that was featured on GTV—announced, falsely, that Chinese sources had sent US officials “three hard disks” of material related to Hunter Biden. That was the first public indication that Trump allies had obtained Hunter Biden’s private material. […]

      9/28/20 A Twitter account linked to GUO and BANNON’s Himalaya movement amplifies an edited clip of the 9/25/20 Lude Media GTV segment, adding:

      Bombshell… 3 hard disk drives of videos and dossier of Hunter Biden’s connections with the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) have been sent to Nancy Pelosi and DOJ. Big money and sex scandal! may come out soon according to Youtuber media Lude @ding_gang #WhereIsHunter

      9/29/20 First presidential debate
      TRUMP: “Proud Boys, Stand back and stand by”

      TRUMP on Twitter

      9/29/20 12:23 AM TRUMP RT’s FITTON at BREITBART
      @BreitbartNews: Tom Fitton: Americans weren’t generally aware of Joe and Hunter Biden’s shenanigans in Ukraine, but Obama’s State Department was, as was Ukraine. [link to 9/22/20 article]

    • harpie says:

      [I won’t be adding as many TRUMP TWEETS because there are just TOO many!]

      10/XX/20 [early] [McLEAN, VA meeting] Trump Had One Last Story to Sell. The Wall Street Journal Wouldn’t Buy It. Inside the White House’s secret, last-ditch effort to change the narrative, and the election — and the return of the media gatekeepers. [NYT]

      [Arthur] SCHWARTZ [advisor of > Junior DON], [senior adviser to the president] Eric HERSCHMANN [friend of > KUSHNER], [former deputy White House counsel, Lawyers for Trump co-chair] Stefan PASSANTINO, [Hunter Biden former business partner] Tony BOBULINSKI [> WSJ], and GIULIANI [> NYPost] working with BANNON

      Lots of TWEETS

      10/10/20 GUO, GIULIANI, and BANNON meet for dinner in Guo’s Manhattan apartment. Pictures posted by a since-suspended Twitter account supportive of Guo showed Guo and Giuliani embracing and smoking cigars.

      10/XX/20 Addition of three more directories; someone from a West Coast location [Nunes?] may have accessed the copy of the drive that WaPo later analyzed.

      10/XX/20 GIULIANI and BANNON reportedly give data to NYP

      10/14/20 NYP publishes: Smoking-gun email reveals how Hunter Biden introduced Ukrainian businessman to VP dad

      TRUMP Tweets:

      10/14/20 6:09 PM So terrible that Facebook and Twitter took down the story of “Smoking Gun” emails related to Sleepy Joe Biden and his son, Hunter, in the @NYPost. It is only the beginning for them. There is nothing worse than a corrupt politician. REPEAL SECTION 230!!! [LINK]

      LOTS MORE: #BidenCrimeFamily and If Biden wins—China will OWN the United States, etc.

      10/18/20 12:15 AM TRUMP RT’s DSOUZA // @DineshDSouza: The “big guy” splitting the loot with bag man Hunter Biden was indeed his father Joe! [LINK]

      10/18/20 9:50 AM Hunter Biden’s laptop is a disaster for the entire Biden family, but especially for his father, Joe. It is now a proven fact, and cannot be denied, that all of that info is the REAL DEAL. That makes it impossible for “50%, or 10%” Joe, to ever assume the office of the President!

      10/19/20 [MCLEAN, Va meeting, cont’d from: 10/XX/20 [early] [McLEAN, VA meeting]

      NYT: […] Mr. Trump and his allies [HERSCHMANN, PASSANTINO, SCHWARTZ, BOBULINSKI] expected the Journal story to appear Monday, Oct. 19, according to Mr. Bannon. That would be late in the campaign, but not too late — and could shape that week’s news cycle heading into the crucial final debate last Thursday. [10/22/20]

      10/19/20 TRUMP, on call with NYT staff, tells them [WSJ is] “working on an important piece.”

      Haberman Tweet 1:19 AM The president tells staff on call the Wall Street Journal is “working on an important piece.”] [This refers to the not-published BOBULINSKI allegations that the former vice president had involvement in his son’s [Hunter] business dealings. [See “early October” Mclean, Va meeting] […]

      TRUMP Tweets:

      10/21/20 8:06 AM WSJ Editorial Board: Joe Biden Must Answer Questions About Hunter Biden and China [link] via @BreitbartNews Joe Biden is a totally corrupt politician, and got caught. At least now he won’t be able to raise your Taxes – Biggest increase in U.S. history!

      10/21/20 6:31 PM WSJ Editorial Board: Joe Biden Must Answer Questions About Hunter Biden and China [LINK] via @BreitbartNews

      10/21/20 7:35 PM BOBULINSKI emails an on-the-record, 684-word statement detailing his allegations that the former vice president had involvement in his son’s [Hunter] business dealings, to a range of news outlets. Breitbart News published it in full. NYT: [BANNON: “[BOBULINSKI] got spooked about whether [the WSJ] were going to do it or not”]

      10/22/20 Final Presidential DEBATE

      1] less than two hours before the debate was to begin, BOBULINSKI reads a six-minute statement to the press, detailing his allegations that the former vice president had involvement in his son’s [Hunter] business dealings.
      2] BOBULINSKI is TRUMP’s surprise guest at the debate
      3] TRUMP acts as though “the details of the emails and the allegations were common knowledge. TRUMP to BIDEN: “You’re the big man, I think. I don’t know, maybe you’re not”
      4] WSJ: [Mr. Bobulinski had failed to prove the central claim.] “Corporate records reviewed by The Wall Street Journal show no role for Joe Biden”

      TRUMP Tweets:

      10/22/20 11:40 PM TRUMP RT’s
      @JudiciaryGOP: Hunter Biden’s emails are NOT Russian disinformation. They are real. Period.

      MORE: Biden is a corrupt politician // China is desperate for Biden to win because if Biden Wins, CHINA WINS – and China will OWN AMERICA. // RT @ArthurSchwartz: The metadata on the Biden family’s pitch materials to the Chinese Communist Party show that the doc was created on Jim…[deleted] // Calls grow louder to get special prosecutor to investigate Hunter Biden business deals // the Biden family is looking more & more like a crime family. They took millions of $$ from the Chinese Communists, while Vice President Biden shipped Michigan jobs to China. If Biden wins, China Wins. When we win, Michigan wins, and AMERICA wins!

      10/31/20 BANNON advises CHINESE [-American?] media group re: election night coverage.

      11/3/20 [ELECTION DAY] Creation of two blank emails which are inserted with no recipient, subject or body

      TRUMP Tweets:

      11/27/20 10:45 AM Big Tech and the Fake News Media have partnered to Suppress. Freedom of the Press is gone, a thing of the past. That’s why they refuse to report the real facts and figures of the 2020 Election or even, where’s Hunter! [link to SCAVINO linking to RAIKLIN [not available]]

      12/XX/20 The latest date on the emails found by cyber-forensics firm Maryman & Associates, who provide an analysis to the Daily Mail.

      12/11/20 BANNON HIRES [“Pardon Broker and GIULIANI lawyer” < ew] COSTELLO

      12/11/20 TRUMP raises the prospect of firing BARR at WH meeting

      TRUMP Tweets

      12/12/20 IF Biden gets in, nothing will happen to Hunter or Joe. Barr will do nothing, and the new group of partisan killers coming in will quickly kill it all. Same thing with Durham. We caught them cold, spying, treason & more (the hard part), but “Justice” took too long. Will be DOA!

      12/12/20 9:53 AM Why didn’t Bill Barr reveal the truth to the public, before the Election, about Hunter Biden. Joe was lying on the debate stage that nothing was wrong, or going on – Press confirmed. Big disadvantage for Republicans at the polls!

      12/14/20 TRUMP announces BARR’s resignation by tweet
      12/15/20 BARR announces his resignation, effective 12/23/21

      TRUMP Tweets:

      12/17/20 9:55 AM I have NOTHING to do with the potential prosecution of Hunter Biden, or the Biden family. It is just more Fake News. Actually, I find it very sad to watch!

      1/3/21 10:25 AM TRUMP RT’s Amy KREMER // @AmyKremer: [re: Biden’s inauguration parade] They only had 5 people RSVP and Hunter wasn’t one of them…

      [^^^ This is the LAST mention of “Hunter” on TRUMP’s Twitter Archive.]

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