Proud Boy Joe Biggs sentenced to 17 years, Zachary Rehl gets 15
I will have a full report to come later for emptywheel but at the E. Barrett Prettyman courthouse in Washington, D.C. this afternoon, U.S. District Judge Tim Kelly sentenced Proud Boy and former InfoWars contributor convicted of seditious conspiracy, Joseph Biggs, to 17 years in prison.
Prosecutors called for 33 years for Biggs, so Kelly’s decision came considerably under that total but Kelly did find that Biggs’ tearing down of a metal fence with co-defendant Ethan Nordean that was meant to keep the mob at bay, constituted a terrorism enhancement. It was this deliberate effort, Kelly found, that allowed the Proud Boys to achieve their objective: to stop the certification of the 2020 election by force.
Proud Boy Zachary Rehl’s sentencing hearing began at 2:15 p.m ET. Prosecutors sought 30 years and on Thursday, the court found that because he committed perjury on the stand the guidelines would shift to 30 years to life.
But in the end, Judge Kelly sentenced Rehl to 15 years in prison. Rehl is pictured below pepper-spraying police.
If you want to read through the live-thread I’ve put together for emptywheel, check out the link here.
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Couldn’t happen to a more deserving guy. Oh wait, there are a couple more. Excellent.
Excellent coverage, Brandi. I’ve followed all 3 now; Pezzolo’s wife testimony ‘You’re a fucking idiot’ and his mom’s looking out for his meals is priceless. Rest up for Nordean. Kenerson is impressive, as is Kelly in his responses to defense and AUSA.
Maybe some people will learn that a destination riot is no way to spend your vacation.
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These are not exactly the learning kind of folk.
17 years is a long time in the federal cooler. How many years do you see Biggs actually serving, bmaz?
14.5, which is the mandatory 85% under federal law. Then followed by reentry stay in a halfway house. He’ll be gone for a long time.
Any guess on Tarrio? Certainly longer, right?
I’ll leave it up to the court. They have done okay so far.
They have indeed.
Judge Timothy J. Kelly also sentenced Biggs to three years of supervised release and a ban on any interactions with organizations that advocate violence against the government.
https://www.npr.org/2023/08/31/1196972258/proud-boys-sentence-jan-6-joseph-biggs
Does the 3 year supervised release run from the end of the 14.5 years or is it a period of supervision in addition to whatever supervision he would be subject to as part of the early release provisions?
Maybe he can borrow Steve McQueen’s baseball and glove.
Joseph Biggs, the cooler king.
Only McQueen as Hilts (the Cooler King) fought FOR his country, not AGAINST it.
Young man I know got 13 years for drugs, A very good sefender got a deal for 2 with cooperation. While in custody, the young man was in the office and reached over for a piece of candy. US attorney revoked the deal ad he went back to serve 13.
17 strikes me as derisory
Okay, this strikes me as absolute bullshit. I have never seen anything like that in my life, much less over a piece of candy. Prove it or shut up.
Candy in a bowl on anyone’s desk is fair game. If it’s not, it belongs in the drawer. And please stop with that crap. If remotely true, I doubt it, he had the world’s shittiest PD.
I think 17 is fine: it’s not overly punitive but it still keeps him off the streets long enough to declaw him, so to speak. I wonder if he’ll write a “My Struggle” book, like his hero Adolph did while incarcerated.
Pipe bomber could be lone wolf, but unlikely.
Down the road, say, April 2024, one may hope DOJ interviews, convicts to see if anyone would like to provide information to reduce sentence.
What’s best guess how many more like minded insurrectionist are still out there and will be once Trump is gone.
Thank you Brandi. Your reporting on this has been stellar.
Absolutely! Thank you, Brandi.
We are very grateful for your excellent reporting.
Thank you for your coverage Brandi.
Any clarity on why Judge Kelly sentenced 17 years, down from the 33 years called for? It’s close to cutting the 33 in half.
Because he thought that was what was proper. Nobody should ever hope that prosecutors blithely get the max they ask for.
You mean Trump is unlikely to serve 641 years, if convicted on all counts? Sad. What will the media exaggerate next? :-)
That’s just ridiculous on its face. Ronny Jackson said Trump could live to be 200, in which case he would not serve much more than 120 years, allowing time for appeals.
Indeed
Pending a proper full report of the hearing I cobbled together bits from CNN and NBC
Our Constitution and laws give you so many important rights that Americans have fought and died for and that you yourself put on a uniform to defend,” District Judge Timothy Kelly said in handing down the sentence. “People around the world would give anything for these rights.”
But January 6, 2021, Kelly said, “broke our tradition of the peaceful transferring of power” in the United States.
“The nature of the constitutional moment we were in that day is something that is so sensitive that it deserves a significant sentence,” he said.
Biggs, Kelly ruled earlier in the hearing Thursday, was subject to harsher sentencing penalties for domestic terrorism because he ripped down a fence on Capitol grounds during the riot that separated law enforcement officers from the mob, taking the mob one step closer to breaching the Capitol.
saying that he did not want to “minimize the violence that did occur” during the Capitol attack, but that he had to be conscious of what other people have been sentenced to for conduct related to January 6, 2021 as to not create large or unwarranted disparities.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/08/31/politics/proud-boys-biggs-sentencing/index.html
Despite applying the terrorism enhancement to Biggs, Kelly agreed that enhancement “overstates” Biggs’ conduct.
“It’s not my job to label you a terrorist and my sentence today won’t do that, no matter what it is,” he told Biggs before delivering the sentence.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna102597
It is also interesting to note what Kelly also said about the terrorism enhancement per Brandi B Xitter thread
“Kelly: i would have imposed precisely the same sentence had the terrorism guideline not applied. I did not bring it all the way down to where the guideline applied but I can say, if the terrorism adjustment hadn’t applied, would’ve sentenced him to the same.”
Judge Tim Kelly was appointed by Trump and is a Federalist Society member – so clown.
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This sentence is in line with what other Jan-6ers have gotten. Ken White has gotten into this – the feds are going by sentencing guidelines. Its basically a big table with lots of adjustment factors. Its complicated.
The Judge has to bring that in line with the big picture, including what other people are getting.
This is commonplace – Trump is potentially on the hook for decades of prison time per the guidelines, but if found guilty is likely to get a fraction of that. Just like any other white-collar offender.
The whole “white collar” versus…..what, “blue collar”, thing is such bullshit. Much of that gripe is due to mandatory sentencing laws passed by your Congress, not inequity in courts. Don’t make people here stupid with your commentary.
Perhaps worthy of an entirely separate thread. Certainly the disparities of both sentencing and time served are glaring in the US judicial system.
It’s *your* Congress, too.
Of course, and obviously. It is all of ours.
Thanks, Brandi!
I cannot wrap my head around the following quote from the Politico article:
Fells like I don’t have the full context of this quote—how can this be coming from Pattis? The irony, and his obliviousness to it, reminds me of Animal Farm, where up is down, black is white, and some animals are more equal than others.
Ooops, here’s the link: https://www.politico.com/news/2023/08/31/joe-biggs-proud-boys-leader-gets-17-year-prison-sentence-for-role-in-jan-6-attack-00113641
It is intentionally obtuse, for theatrical effect. The argument does not reflect reality, or social or criminal justice. It’s not intended for the courts, but for Trump and the Maghats.
It’s one thing for the average person to have trouble wrapping their heads around that – but it’s criminal for the media not to help them.
Pattis also claimed that “‘to treat these men [Proud Boys] as terrorists would be, in my view, the functional equivalent as the destruction of Waco.'” (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/proud-boy-joe-biggs-faces-decades-prison-jan-6-seditious-conspiracy-ca-rcna102597). The hyperbole is just gross, in multiple meanings of the word. Ugh.
Nonsense. No American should ever be afraid of attending any lawful protest or demonstration. When you break the law in the process of that action we’re learning that you will eventually be prosecuted no matter how large the group!
As Dr King and other civil rights protesters demonstrated, engaging in civil disobedience does not give someone a free pass from prosecution.
By intentionally subjecting themselves to prosecution, those who protest are seeking to call attention to the unjust nature of the laws. In some cases, the sheer number of protesters was intended to overwhelm the city jails, inviting further scrutiny of the cause.
Accepting the risk of prosecution, conviction, and penalty (fines, imprisonment, or both) is part and parcel of civil disobedience. The goal is to make things so awkward, difficult, and uncomfortable for those in power, that they seek to negotiate. The Montgomery Bus boycott is one great example, and King’s later Letter from Birmingham Jail discusses this at more length.
this is precisely my take on it, and why that argument seems so ridiculous. it was also floated by the defense, paraphrased as ‘being held accountable for violent rhetoric if the protest takes a violent turn’ — of course you’ll be held accountable. if you’re going to go to a protest you’re accepting the potential consequences in the first place, even moreso if you’re part of the group moving it towards violent/illegal behavior. to think otherwise is ludicrous. this newfound desire to wear the first amendment as some kind of impenetrable armor protecting all manner of behavior is exactly the kind of critical thinking short circuit that the right wing media loves to exploit, and this is the kind of harebrained arguments it generates.
Um, i must admit, given the numbers of mass murders in public places, I worry shootings will continue increasingly,.
” i ain’t afraid of dying, i just dont want to be there when it happens. “
Whose proud now, boyo?
He was a Nogood Boyo up to No Good who said he wanted to be a Good Boyo but nobody would let him
ha! this news just in from LLareggub Hill, which is Buggerall spelt backwards.
Whose Proud? Their Proud!
Ack! I really typed “whose”?
.😎
And “their.”
(Yes, that was the joke. punaise got it.)
Hoos are you, Ewe? Hoos, Hoos? Hoos Hoos?
Owl show myself out.
I thought you were being intentional. Not Biggs’ Proud Boys anymore, nor Tarrio’s.
Perhaps Trump’s Proud Boys?
SOB sobs in his Biggs boy pants. Roger Stone says: Why can’t irate? And Ari Melber…
The Clash – Wrong ’em Boyo:
I’ve been listening to The Clash pretty intensely these past few weeks. You just woke up one of my earworms.
When they knock on your front door
How you gonna go?
“Black or white turn it on, face the new religion
Everybody’s sitting ’round watching television!”
Dial 99999
I call 867-5309.
When Trump’s arrest ID was released, I wondered how long it would take for a Tommy Tutone parody — apparently, only about 24 hours: https://sagplayers.bandcamp.com/track/p01135809-donnie
Lol, that is one of the most awesome things ever!
Excellent
I was supposed to find out recently that the clash version was a cover. (I hope this formats correctly) https://youtu.be/JNp9ymVrugQ
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Whose on first.
Hoosegow now boyo !
Earworm trigger! (Red Hot Chili Peppers fairly nonsensical but iconic funk-rocker “Give it Away Now”)
Is there a sentencing enhancement for theft and abuse of the shaka sign?
Maybe if it was Chaka Khan.
It’s Human Nature…
https://youtu.be/xZ5E4Jo3lpU
and now i’m flashing back to a Seattle Bumbershoot Festival many (many) years ago. Chaka taking the stage during an afternoon set at an indoor venue:
Chaka: “I feel for you…” “TURN OFF THAT FUCKING LIGHT!!” “I think I love you…” “TURN OFF THAT FUCKING LIGHT!!”.
it made for a rather disjointed performance.
Chaka Khan was seriously great.
Oh yes….she was a “Good Thing”!
a la Bop till you drop.
Don’t forget Rufus!
Chaka Khan (and Rufus) are the most glaring Rock and Roll Hall of Fame snubs. It makes no sense.
Chaka’s cover of “To Sir With Love” is pretty terrific.
I am rather fond of the Barry Harris Remix of the track:
https://youtu.be/JhhIt1vM5n8?si=1YG3K_KqA6eX_KGP
The greatest cover of said song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXQueTMTNi0
I’ve been reading the thread, but I’m not an expert Tweeter, so I occasionally can’t tell whether I should be scrolling up or down, and sometimes I do, yes, lose the thread. But it’s great work you’re doing. A sort of “you are there” vibe which is worth its weight in gold. Thank you for doing this. (And I look forward to the book!)
Seconded
Brandi is going to do a full report later
But it might assist your reading of her thread to do it via the thread roller
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1697177764648894607.html
Sorry just realised that the thread reader only covered the 2nd half of the thread ie Rehl ‘s sentencing and not the 1st part dealing with Briggs
Briggy Smells
I see what you did there…
Yes! Edward R Murrow of the J6 trials!
As someone unfamiliar with federal criminal sentencing, it was fascinating to read the paraphrased colloquy between court and counsel about how Rehl would be sentenced. It’s impressive and humbling to see justice worked out with such diligence and commitment. And I mean this; it’s the majesty of the law, in real time.
Find your closest District Court and go watch a couple live. It is different than most people think and well worth seeing. It is not state court, which can be a grinder, and can be rewarding to see live.
I’m curious whether Biggs will file for a review of the “domestic terrorism” enhancement. Seems kind of lame application of the law if it’s just for tearing down a temporary chain-link fence…
The fact that Kelly said he would have imposed the same sentence whether or not the enhancement applied adds an interesting wrinkle to the matter I suspect.
Really? The SG references the “domestic terrorism” definition contained in the US Code. The Code, at 18 USC 2331(5) states:
Seems to fit the crime when the intention was to release the mob to prevent Congress from certifying the vote.
Seconded
IANAL. Any chance the DOJ might appeal the sentence (like they did for Stewart Rhodes) that they feel is not long enough? And how successful are such appeals in your opinion?
No.
I believe that if the defendants had black skin, “tough on crime” Kelly’s sentence would have been far closer to the “guidelines.”
Secondly, it’s ironic that on the same day Trump’s appointee handed down a “miracle” sentence, Thomas released his financial disclosure in which he asserted the he “understood” the previous financial reporting guidelines did not require him to disclose the gifts his friends gave him.
Feels to me like only schmucks conform to guidelines as neither life-time appointee felt it necessary to align their decisions with guidelines. Apparently I’m a schmuck and neither of them are.
Or you are just full of uninformed shit. And, you clearly are. Also, making this about racial disparity, and disparate crimes, is simply ignorant. Don’t do that here.
I acknowledge my ignorance of sentencing practices – so, yes I’m uninformed.
I’m unable to locate statistics by judge nor by sentence length (e.g. 30-year sentences varied downward by 10%/20%).
What I did find indicates that in DC 50% varied downward from the guidelines, 25% based on DOJ motion and 27% by judges alone.
Table 8, https://www.ussc.gov/sites/default/files/pdf/research-and-publications/federal-sentencing-statistics/state-district-circuit/2021/dc21.pdf
Kelly’s decision puts him in the 27% of cases category.
However, as you note, there are no truly comparable cases as these people tried to end our social experiment, to seize power for themselves.
There are 50 states that all have different laws from the common federal jurisdiction (not to mention territories). Even in the federal jurisdiction, the districts and circuits differ somewhat. It would be a very long discussion.
And Kelly was fine with his sentences. It is okay.
Thanks to the US justice system, today I’m feeling proud, boys.
So I guess Judge Kelly is on George Soros’ payroll too, like John Durham and most of us of course.
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It would be interesting to see grand totals for incarceration years/days imposed for all. Maybe that does exist somewhere.
DOJ’s table at link below doesn’t yet have today’s additions.
https://www.justice.gov/file/1594006/download
So many lives ruined because of the former president’s lies and call for action. Granted, many/most(?) of these people were already trouble waiting to happen, but still…
The table link above can be found on this page, as DOJ periodically updates:
https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/capitol-breach-cases
I’m jonesing to get the reaction here to the GA prosecution response to Judge Jones’ request.
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Kinda’ worked that way. Just waved my magic moderator’s wand and *poof*
Oh well!
Fox News did a great report on Joe Biggs conviction. I have the link right here:
In an uncommon move, the Federal Communications Commission is inviting the public to comment on the petition seeking to deny the broadcast license renewal for Philadelphia’s FOX29 station. Typically, license renewals are not “permit-but-disclose,” or open for public comment.
https://www.phillyvoice.com/fox-29-news-broadcast-license-fcc-public-comments/
First off, you gave no link. And if what you have is Fox, try to find something credible.
(Think that was a joke, bmaz)
You don’t see the link? It’s right there next to the links for Fox reports on Pezzola and Rehl.
See this: Get lost.
(Ok, that wore me out…Savage Librarian will have complete it)
(oops…seventeen years of course. I never can get it right the first time…maybe I should stop commenting until things calm down and the edit function reappears)
You are fine, don’t sweat it.
What happened to Norm Pattis’ request that Biggs’ remarks about his daughter be sealed? Seemed like an odd request given that Biggs’ statement was in open court with Brandi & others reporting live. Did Judge Kelly rule, or make any mention of it at all?
10 years for Pezolla. I was hoping for more, but maybe Ethan won’t disappoint.
Brandi reports: “As Pezzola walks out of the courtroom, he pumps his fist in the a[i]r and shouts “Trump won!” He’d earlier told the court: “There is no place in my future for groups or politics whatsoever.” (https://twitter.com/Brandi_Buchman) Clearly this is a guy with a great capacity for self-reflection and critical thinking.
(Apologies for forgetting a second set of quotation marks around the two quotations of Pezzola.)
Thanks for the writeup, Brandi.
As an aside, I keep marveling at the coin pictured at the top of this post, the Proud Boys’ choice to make a coin depicting Trump as a grotesque, gagging on its oversized tongue.
A 3-D version should definitely be placed on the gutter of a future Church of Mammon.
(Or is this coin fail just reflecting a limitation of their artistic abilities and sensibilities?)
lol. I thought the same thing when I saw the coin. Maybe deep down they hate him.
Always save the best for last (unless it’s weed).
The Grand Prize for a civilian achieving the longest prison sentence for participating in the attempted coup will go to some soon to be forgotten dude named EnriQue.
Far out.