Aileen Cannon Issues Another Perfectly Routine Order
Judge Aileen Cannon set Donald Trump’s trial for hoarding 31 highly classified documents for August 14, 2023.
The trial won’t happen that quickly. This is, instead, an order stemming from Speedy Trial Act (and in any case, the trial would be set back a few weeks once Walt Nauta is arraigned, because barring a plea or other unforeseen developments, they will be tried together). Per the boilerplate, the two sides have to file Speedy Trial notices every 21 days from here on out.
Other parts of the boilerplate order are more interesting. For example, Judge Cannon ordered that each side can propose no more than 10 voir dire questions to be used in jury selection. This suggests that Cannon plans to conduct the questioning of the jury (again, this is routine in many places) and that she doesn’t envision the kind of 200 word questionnaire I would have envisioned to weed out bias.
Counsel shall be prepared to conduct limited voir dire following the Court’s questioning of the panel. Prior to Calendar Call, each party may file no more than 10 proposed voir dire questions (including any sub-parts) for the Court to consider asking of the venire. The Court will not permit the backstriking of jurors.
As I understand it, the reference to “backstriking” means that the two sides must issue peremptory challenges against jurors in real time, rather than seeing everyone who is qualified and picking the most disfavorable to kick off the jury.
This part of the order, more than anything else in this filing, could determine Donald J. Trump’s fate before a SDFL jury, because it would limit the degree to which both sides could hand pick a jury.
Another part of the order that may matter pertains to Rule 404(b) notices.
All responses pursuant to the Standing Discovery Order and/or Local Rule 88.10 shall be provided in a timely fashion in accordance with the dates scheduled by the magistrate judge. Noncompliance with the Standing Discovery Order, the Local Rules, or the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure may result in sanctions. Any notice submitted pursuant to Federal Rule of Evidence 404(b) must be filed as a motion—not as a notice—and must identify with particularity the evidence to be introduced and the factual and legal basis supporting admission. Responses to such motions are due in accordance with the standard timing requirements set forth in Local Rule 7.1(c).
404(b) notices pertain to related conduct that is not itself part of the charges. Often it pertains to events that happened before the crime in question that show a predisposition to commit a crime (but character evidence is prohibited).
In the indictment, for example, the incident in which Trump leaked details of an Iran document may need to be introduced as Rule 404(b), because while it is itself a crime, it is not the crime charged in the indictment. Similarly, DOJ could try to introduce evidence that Trump selectively spilled classified information even as President.
Cannon will have discretion to exclude such information as prejudicial, among other things. And because the Milley incident is key to proving that Trump knew he could no longer declassify information, it could harm the case.
But we honestly don’t know whether she would do that! This order is boilerplate, and all it shows is that Cannon is, thus far, treating the trial of a former President as she would any other trial.
Update: This piece from Kyle Cheney is a useful review of how Judge Cannon has treated the few trials over which she has presided.
“Backstriking” generally refers to the process of choosing/accepting jurors in panels. For a jury of 12, usually they are done in panels of 4. After the pool has been questioned, the first panel is presented and plaintiff/government can strike and if they do, those stricken are replaced by others from the pool. Once the plaintiff/government accepts a panel of 4, it goes to defendant, who can strike if they want and the same procedure is followed. If defendant strikes any, plaintiff/government can go back and strike any on the panel, even those that it previously accepted. Once both sides have accepted a panel of 4, it is locked in and they move to the next panel. Backstriking would be going back to a panel both sides had previously accepted and trying to strike someone. That is generally not allowed.
Useless legal factoid of the day.
Heh, no, not generally allowed. Got a problem with a potential juror or partial panel? Make it now, not later.
Not knowing what “backstriking” really means, I of course googled the term and the first couple relevant sites describe it as exercising a strike after the jury is chosen yet not sworn in, while alternates are being considered. These sites cite some case law that (the sites claim) give the “absolute right to backstrike” at any point before the jury is sworn in. But it may be the cited cases aren’t relevant here. Anyway, help me out, bmaz! Clarify a bit more.
Here’s one of those sites: https://www.blslawyers.com/the-litigant-s-absolute-right-to-backstrike-until-the-panel-is-s.html
it’s more after a particular juror is chosen, rather than the jury as a whole. With backstrikes, jurors can be conditionally accepted subject to later challenge; without backstrikes, a juror who is accepted is accepted unconditionally.
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This.
FWIW, in my experience in IL civil courts, 90% of the judges prohibit back strikes as they extend the time necessary for *voir dire*. The ones who do allow it, IMO, seem to be more concerned with fairness to the lawyers, than the ones who don’t. Back strikes also seem more likely to be permitted on “bigger” cases.
IME, prohibition tends to focus the atty’s mind when picking.
Useful!
What jurisdiction do you say that applies to? I’ve never seen an impanelment done that way.
There is no set way an impanelment is done. Different jurisdictions have different rules but even within those jurisdictions there is variation from judge to judge, situation to situation..
Florida state courts permit backstriking. Federal courts in my experience generally do not.
So, the mention of backstriking in the order could easily be (a) from her template order set (b) a reminder that the Federal District “house rule” is different from the state trial court rule?
Every place I’ve selected a jury it’s been a matter of discretion for the trial judge.
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Good summary. Trial lawyers love backstrikes, judges hate them. Not unusual at all, but it’s one of the ground rules all lawyers want in advance of the process.
Yes, perfectly routine scheduling order. But Cannon is very far from screwing around, just the opposite. Good. Little to no chance of August 14 trial, but if Cannon keeps up this speed, it will be really interesting by the end of July.
I would look out for Rule 403 action as much as Rule 404.
Sure, but even if the action on 404 is “not found” under 403 it will be “forbidden.”
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I’ll see myself out.
Lol.
Thanks for continuing to cover these. As a non-lawyer who is not familiar with the procedural minutiae of criminal trials, it’s very helpful to get a reality check on the normalcy of these orders.
It’s every bit as helpful to lawyers! If we’re not in a particular federal district, we generally can’t access anything that isn’t flung out to the general public, & the federal judiciary doesn’t do that very often. So kudos to Marcy for helping all interested folks informed. Thank you, thank you, thank you!
Clarification: We can’t access it for free. PACER can get pricey in a hurry, & Lexis & Westlaw aren’t cheap. This retiree on a fixed income would much rather be Marcy’s monthly contributor and get good analysis in the bargain.
Open question to Marcy and other PACER users around these parts. Do any of you use the RECAP plugin?
Yes. It is better than it initially was. Not PACER, but is okay.
For several of the Trump cases, CourtListener has posted an online copy of the docket. Often you can download copies of the documents there for free if someone else has put them in RECAP.
The one for this Trump case is here:
United States v. Trump (9:23-cr-80101)
District Court, S.D. Florida
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67490070/united-states-v-trump/
Sometimes there are even more docket copies for the same case on RECAP. Here is another one to the same case: https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67490069/united-states-v-trump/.
They look nearly identical by now, but in the early days after the indictment was filed, they differed and complemented one another.
I discovered this when I did my original search on RECAP with the case number.
Yes. Good Move.
Rocket Docket now, until the hiccups arrive.
I got a kick out of a law professor’s recent comment.
“Law is a slow-moving conversation. I tell my students that one law year is seven years, kinda like one human year is seven dog years.”
He was whistling about tax law, his expertise.
If he is right, it takes 21 years to graduate, or you enter at age 22 and leave with gray hair at 43 (joke)
Typical load of useless shit. I did a month long jury trial in my first year. PLEASE Jack, quit spewing stupid shit here.
It was a silly joke about tax law and dealing with the IRS tax court.
No harm intended.
It was funny.
That might explain my uncle, who got out of law school at age 44.
:-0
“who’s a good boy?”
These and her fall 2022 rulings are consistent with Cannon carrying water for the GOP, not DJT. The GOP Establishment now wants DJT out of the way sooner rather than later–even more than they wanted the MAL docs investigation delayed until after the 2022 election.
What i keep reading from Marcy, Bmaz and Rayne is that what’s happened so far with her is quite routine. Meaning we should all stop projecting anything nefarious about her actions. This doesn’t mean she won’t do something suspicious later. Ianal, but so far from my reading, nothing she’s done is out of order regarding this case, now.
Kyle Cheney thread w/his politico report link:
https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1671135127408091139
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From the elections site for registered voters as of today in St.Lucie County, where Ft. Pierce is located:
Dem: 87,478
Rep: 83,881
NPA: 67,190
Other: 5,263
2020 Presidential:
Trump: 86,831 50.38%
Biden: 84,137 48.82%
US House:
Rep: 88,678 51.89%
Dem: 78,231 45.77%
https://www.slcelections.com/?nomo=1
I do not practice in Florida, but generally the jury pool will be pulled from throughout the district, not limited to the county where the judge sits.
LOL that means my parents could be jurors. They are typically GOP voters but my mom can’t stand Trump and my dad voted for Biden.
Now things just got interesting. Pass the popcorn!
That would be hysterical. Of course you wouldn’t find out until after the fact.
I’m not even going to mention the possibility to my folks that this could happen, going to enjoy the possibility this could happen.
It would be such delicious karma if they drew my dad who is insanely analytical.
I doubt I would make it onto a jury (not that I live in FL). I’d have to bluff impartiality, and that’s a fool’s errand as well a a civic no-no.
No, don’t do that!
It is okay though. Have been in front of hundreds, but will never be allowed on one. Took a while to accept, but I finally did. In fairness, I would not let me on a jury either.
But seriously – with all due deference to the legal process – is there anybody reading this site who could be an impartial juror, to the degree of being willing to vote to acquit if the prosecution didn’t present a good case? In my bones I know Trump is guilty as sin.
I….very much hope so. We very much try to foster that kind of independent thinking. Listen to the evidence adduced at trial, not in the press. Pay attention. Think. Am hopeful most of the regulars here could do that.
Adding, there is a HUGE difference between here at EW and a formal jury box. Cannot stress enough the people in that box and deliberation room really do take their assignment seriously and solemnly. They leave far more at the door than you probably think.
Fair enough. I have served – responsibly! – on a jury (once, reached a verdict) and almost another time (charges got dropped at the lunch break in voire dire). But sheeesh, Trump?
Stand in and do the job! And most all really do.
There is implied bias in all human beings. As part of the jury, I would hope to let it go.
For Trump though, cannot do it -would recuse myself.
Jack, do you listen to KO?
Yes, your honor. Then, you are excused and sin no more (joke)
Yes. It is easy when, like here, your entire state is the district. Courts are very lenient to give those who reside far away a break though. Their jury pool will be fine. I hope my fear of filing all this in SDFL will be proven wrong.
According to a map put out by the SDFL, the Fort Pierce Division encompasses the Counties of Indian River, Highlands, St. Lucie, Martin and OkeeChobee. The bulk if not all of the jurors would likely be pulled from those counties.
Still think any trial might be in Miami. We shall see.
Will having a SCIF located within or nearby the Courthouse be a factor in the decision on where the trial will be held? I read where Miami has a SCIF located in a building in the same complex. Don’t know about St. Lucie. Or maybe they could bring in a mobile SCIF?
Doubt it is really a concern, but don’t know.
As Anna Bower points out, the most important part of this order is that she set the trial in Ft. Pierce, not in West Palm Beach where the case originated. That likely will result in a much more conservative jury pool.
https://twitter.com/AnnaBower/status/1671177738319720449
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Some older references show the courthouse as being in a “strip mall”. It may have been at one time, but it is now located in a relatively modern looking stand alone building in the link below.
No idea the size of the courtroom(s).
This is not particularly close to PBI and a bit further from MCO (Orlando). Vero Beach Regional Airport is close though. And, hey, there are worse places to stay than nearby Hutchinson Island.
https://www.google.com/maps/@27.4465432,-80.3259669,3a,75y,248.2h,95.57t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sYRDZvg3k0WKjaejz8u2YuQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu
No, the order is perfunctory. And means nothing as to where any trial will ultimately be. I would guess Miami for security concerns, but who knows? The jury pool is absolutely the same, it is the district of SDFL.
Should we automatically assume the trial will be held in Ft. Pierce, which is where Cannon sits but is apparently a tiny courthouse, as opposed to FT Lauderdale or Miami. Would we anticipate one of the parties seeking to move the courtroom where the trial will be held?
Again relying on the excellent reporting of Anna Bower, she wrote “It’s also not a sure thing that Trump *will* be tried in the Ft. Pierce division. It’s possible that it could be held in Miami (or elsewhere) for security or other reasons.”
https://twitter.com/AnnaBower/status/1671175035896188933
“Update: This piece from Kyle Cheney is a useful review of how Judge Cannon has treated the few trials over which she has presided.”
Thanks in advance for the link, and as always, for your reporting and analysis!
Link is above – greenbird at 12:05 pm.
I know the defense would never, ever allow me on that jury.
RE: “Update: This piece from Kyle Cheney is a useful review of how Judge Cannon has treated the few trials over which she has presided.”
I don’t see the link in that text. Here’s a copy.
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/06/15/aileen-cannon-criminal-trial-record-00102135
Keep in mind that Cannon has 1,000% more legal and trial experience than Kyle Cheney. That article is as useless as the NYT almost hit piece.
So, only ten times more then :)
(Sorry couldn’t resist)
{OT} District Judge Mehta found Kellye SoRelle incompetent to stand trial; she’s been remanded to an inpatient facility for treatment focused on restoration. (Anyone who doesn’t remember her: she’s Oath Keeper, was tight with Stewart Rhodes, may have acted as general counsel to the group and/or interim chief after his arrest, has been charged with obstruction etc. in connection with the January 6th attempted coup.)
That’s remarkable, to say the least. Simply carrying a psychiatric diagnosis is irrelevant here. You need to be deemed incapable of understanding the charges against you and/or court proceedings, and/or to be incapable of working with your attorney in your own defense. I used to run psychoeducational “restoration to competency” groups at a state hospital, and in general the folks so remanded had little education and were either genuinely disorganized or severely paranoid. Occasionally you get someone of a different stripe, typically in very high-stakes cases like murder. For a lawyer to be so treated seems almost impossible.
I don’t have much background on her. She attended Oklahoma City School of Law (class of 2005), belongs to the Texas Bar (but has been suspended for nonpayment of dues), worked as an assistant DA in Cameron County for 6 years or so, then at a law firm for 2-3 more but left in 2020, when she moved in with Rhodes. This was the most informative article I found in a quick search: https://www.hcnews.com/news/those-who-knew-the-oath-keeper-s-general-counsel-say-they-saw-storm-clouds-of/article_b38f6ec8-0932-11ee-912b-d33cd35d288e.html
Without having enough information to offer anything definitive, I’d conjecture that she developed a severe case of Bipolar I Disorder or possibly schizophrenia of the paranoid subtype (they overlap a lot in practice). But still, incompetent to stand trial? Wow.
https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1671173059275792391
11:08 AM · Jun 20, 2023
Thanks for that, Harpie. It looks pretty standard, but I only knew these cases from the hospital clinician perspective, not the legal. The one feature that stands out to me is that she’s being allowed to go free until the attorney general finds an opening for her in a suitable hospital. The more usual procedure, as far as I ever saw, is that folks get driven straight to the nearest public psychiatric hospital (unless they have nice insurance). In D.C., that would be St. Elizabeth’s.
A very useful post by Ravenclaw. Thanks!
That is damn near impossible in federal court. Crikey.
It’s sad. But I can understand why she might be paranoid. We know that Stewart Rhodes was violent and very paranoid. She knows that too. And she knows there are vengeful people who may retaliate against her if/when she testifies.
One of my attorneys once said to me something like, “I can understand if you might be paranoid. These people really are out to get you.” Lots of weird and unpleasant stuff happened, even after the settlement. Some very threatening things happened.
But I was able to reach deep into a safe place inside my mind that I think I created during my turbulent childhood. Plus, I never, ever talked about any particulars with coworkers. I only confided in my attorneys. And that helped a lot, I think.
But I’m pretty sure I had something like PTSD when I was a newbie here on emptywheel, because it was the first time I actually talked at any length about my experience. It took me a bit to calm down and not be a pain in the ass.
<3 YOU could never be that, Savage Librarian!
Thank you for ALL you add to the conversations here! <3
You’re the best, harpie! Thanks for all you do!
It took me a bit to calm down and not be a pain in the ass.
Oh, you’re still a pain in the ass, but you’re *our* pain in the ass.
j/k! :~)
RHODES is a violent misogynistic a–hole sedition-conspiracist FELON.
I think that I saw that after ruling her incompetent, he later changed the order & sent her to be restored to competency, which involves a significant period of inpatient care.
Having once suffered an acute manic episode, it’s easy for me to believe that someone in the middle of an acute manic episode, or other psychotic break, would not be able to adequately participate in her own defense, especially on the complex charges she was facing, even though after a time she could be responsible & sane enough to actively participate.
If I recall she was involved in January 6 related lawsuits in Federal court in Texas with Paul Davis (Famous for quoting “Gondor has no king” in his petition to have the entire Federal Government placed under the stewardship of a single Texas Federal judge.) She was at that time, the slightly more sane of the two attorneys involved in this set of cases. They had a falling out before the final dismissal of these cases.
Mehta is a former public defender and a careful and compassionate judge. I don’t think he’s a pushover, or would do this for sentimental reasons, but because of the gravity of the charges and that they involve things she did while lawyering, it makes sense that he made accomodation for her to be truly active in her defense.
The case she filed as co-counsel with Paul Davis – who I seem to recall working for an insurance company before getting shit-canned for filing that batshit lawsuit – is where I first remember hearing SoRelle’s name as well. I believe it was filed in EDTX.
IIRC, Davis later claimed that the whole episode involving the filing of the lawsuit was because he’d been awake for 3 straight days drafting the complaint. Certainly seemed like he was in the middle of a manic episode; could be the same now for SoRelle.
A finding of “not competent to stand trial” is always accompanied by commitment to an inpatient facility for treatment (with the overarching goal of “restoration of competence”) with a kind of term (I hate to say “sentence”) attached. Most often this is in the 90-day range. If the person is deemed restored by the clinical staff at an earlier date, they can request a hearing. If the 90 days are expiring and the person is still considered incompetent, they can ask for an extension. State hospitals, where most such cases are handled, sometimes have a full-time psychiatrist or other professional assigned to doing competency evaluations so they won’t be embarrassed in front of the judge.
I read the J6 Committee’s SoRelle depositions and got the sense that she was relatively forthcoming, certainly moreso than some of the others. Her depositions were not chock full of “I don’t recall”s like many of the pure Trumpists. She had a lot to say.
She spoke of wanting to know the truth and that was a motivator, especially in her first deposition. She didn’t believe the media. But she didn’t believe the BS that the Trump camp was putting out either. Or at least that’s what she said.
That was my impression as well when I read the transcript. Later I read she did not have counsel present. That was concerning. Maybe it should have alerted me to the possibility of other issues. But I had been hoping that she could have been a helpful witness. I’m sorry to see how things evolved. But I’m glad Judge Mehta took this action.
Very useful essay today as always, Dr. Wheeler!
I know two samples is hardly representative of the whole, but as one who believes in redemption stories, I really hope Judge Cannon will continue on her present path, if path it be.
It seems likely that she will have her thumb on the scale. She’s just learned from last time to stay within the forms of her role, to avoid having her rulings reversed on appeal.
OT
Since this post discusses a judge and their work for the court…
A lawyer friend of our family (has defended SC cases years ago) says, “When you’re explaining, you’re losing.”
I imagine this would be his response to Alito’s WSJ op-ed self-defending Alito’s own graft and failure to recuse.
(Sorry for not linking to the op-ed, it was my last freebie read for the month and link could not be gifted.)
But here is the piece Alito was trying to create defensive spin ahead of its’ publication:
https://www.propublica.org/article/samuel-alito-luxury-fishing-trip-paul-singer-scotus-supreme-court
Here is Leah Littman, on the Internet Archive,
responding to ALITO’s WSJ Opinion piece, [includes lots of screenshots of it]:
https://web.archive.org/web/20230621123023/https://twitter.com/LeahLitman/status/1671296619537391617
Here is is on Twitter, where you can actually read the screenshots:
https://twitter.com/LeahLitman/status/1671296619537391617
7:18 PM · Jun 20, 2023
Thank you for the links!