Braced for Impact

My maple flooring is taking a beating today as I pace from end to end of the house, waiting for one of the remaining states to drop the hammer on Trump’s dwindling Electoral College hopes.

I can’t even concentrate long enough to cook something, had to work my way up to typing out this post. I just can’t sit still for long.

My kid isn’t helping much. Whenever a state reports a new vote count, they yell downstairs, regurgitating everything I’ve just read online. But they’re just as anxious as I am, and at 23 they haven’t yet lived through much election weirdness.

“Did you hear about the riot in Detroit, the Trump supporters harassing the vote counters?”

Yes, dear, I did, and it’s like the Brooks Brothers riot all over again, with fewer hanging chads and pinpoint oxford button-down shirts, with more camouflage and Confederate flags.

“What’s a hanging chad?”

~sigh~

We know it’s inevitable. The writing is on the wall. It’s even on Fox News but Trump refuses to yield to reality, just as he’s never yielded to the truth for his entire term in office.

The worst part: the anger is turning dangerously nasty, and it’s not just Trump but his family, minions, and his hardcore whackdoodle base who are going past acceptable expressions of frustration and grief.

Some of what we are seeing is intended to create chaos while disrupting the normal election process.

In a word, it’s seditious.

Now bmaz may jump on me for using a legal term here though I’m not a lawyer.

I do mean seditious, referring to seditious conspiracy.

Here’s the Wikipedia definition of sedition:

Sedition is overt conduct, such as speech and organisation, that tends toward rebellion against the established order. Sedition often includes subversion of a constitution and incitement of discontent toward, or rebellion against, established authority. Sedition may include any commotion, though not aimed at direct and open violence against the laws. Seditious words in writing are seditious libel. A seditionist is one who engages in or promotes the interest of sedition.

Here’s the U.S. Code for seditious conspiracy:

18 U.S. Code § 2384.Seditious conspiracy

If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.

Emphasis mine.

Our country is a democratic republic. Voting and counting those votes to elect officials is foundational to our system of government. It’s embedded in our Constitution including several amendments.

Advocating any interruption of normal voting and vote counting, especially the increasing calls for violence including militarized language, could be construed as incitement. Two or more people working to this end could be construed as seditious conspiracy against the United States.

All votes must be counted. The counting process will weed out those ballots which are not valid. This is how democracies work. It’s outlined in our Constitution and laws and undermining these laws is seditious.

It’s horribly embarrassing that our country’s president has attempted to claim a victory before all the votes are counted, but that so many attempts have been made to obstruct the normal electoral process. The world sees this very clearly for what it is, sees Trump for what he is.

We can see that Trump knows better as well; he has all the appearance of a narcissist in meltdown because he isn’t getting what he wants to feed his ego.

This has to end. It will end, as soon as the next state — likely Pennsylvania — finalizes their vote count, pushing Joe Biden to or past the necessary 270 electoral votes to win the presidency.

The really sad part is that we don’t know what will happen when it does end.

Will the real tantrum begin? Will Team Trump engage in a smash-and-grab on the way out? Will they obstruct what should be a peaceful transition of power?

We can’t tell. We can only brace ourselves for impact.

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114 replies
  1. Rayne says:

    It’s absolutely ridiculous that the only Republicans who have said anything about the need to count all the votes are those who are either retiring or are not in elected office.

    We see you lawless chickenshits.

  2. Eureka says:

    Oh hai I didn’t know you had this new jawn, Rayne: this news goes quite better here so I’ll duplicate it:

    NBC News: “Exclusive: Defense Sec. Esper has prepared a letter of resignation, according to three current defense officials.[link]”
    https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1324451633300951042

    ^ because he expects to be pushed out; also:

    Holly Figueroa O’Reilly: “”Notably, Defense Secretary Esper has been traveling in the Middle East this week, but the trip was shrouded in even more secrecy than usual, suggesting a possible security concern.” Top officials were briefed on active threat against Pentagon leaders [different NBC News link]”
    https://twitter.com/AynRandPaulRyan/status/1324457475823685632

    • Rayne says:

      When my kid started in on the status of the election at seven fucking a.m. this morning — Jesus, child, stop already — he said the only thing missing from this version of American House of Cards was a terror attack which allowed the president to declare an emergency and halt the election.

      I wonder if Esper might have squelched something similar.

      Beyond that possibility, I suspect this report about a traditionally expected letter of resignation prepared ahead of transition was intended as notice to Team Trump that Esper would not do anything to interfere with the election and Team Trump had better not even think about it.

      • graham firchlis says:

        Rat fleeing a sinking ship before the deranged captain comes after him with a carving knife.

        There may be a higher moral purpose, but self-interest seems more likely. Expect a rush of others, as the consequences of defeat and loss of power sink in.

      • Eureka says:

        Well there was that weeks-ago threat by one of OBL’s nieces, saying we’d be attacked if Trump weren’t reelected. FUD, favor (for whomever she might be speaking for or to), noisily obligating Trump to a debt, or to the appearance of one (like how Erdogan, especially, used to pipe up when Trump was blowing him off and being more solicitous to Putin) — lots of options given Trump’s entanglements. (It most reminded of how W used to manufacture consent by raising the terror level; most of Trump’s ads have the same fear-based mortality salience driver, if on topics more domestic. No reason that threat couldn’t have also been a primer/pre- Nov. 3rd option if his internal polling hadn’t turned around closer to E-day, giving them some plausible options with tighter races (per their recent public statements of confidence).

        So I wonder what the real ask/Trumpian accommodation might have been there, or what relations may have needed cleaning up. Depends on the threat issuer’s affiliations/ attendant power, I suppose (for whom might this niece have been a messenger?).

        Agree that publicity of Esper’s standard letter might just function as a notice absent some other drama (and that would be an important message).

    • subtropolis says:

      It’s ironic that Esper is likely safer anywhere in the Middle East than he is in the US. I just read that Steve Bannon has been calling for Director Wray to be beheaded as a warning to others in government.

    • ducktree says:

      There’s an old chestnut about someone who was advised to prepare three letters of resignation … makes a person go “hmmm”.

    • Timmer says:

      I am not ready for the “time to heal”. Moderates looking to reach across the aisle is no longer a play. Trumptypes have given us more machine guns in the hands of lunatics, right wing extremists bloating our court system, terrifying income and race inequality and radical white evangelical racism that has infiltrated our “protect and serve” forces. We saw how the post racial society (snark) thrived when we elected O’Bama president. McConnell and his old boy network stonewalled all hopeful change in the Senate after ACA.
      Those of us in center left majority of this country must demand policy change to bring back a civil, equal society. SO…Joe, Schumer and Pelosi, put away the whiffle bats. Time for real Louisville sluggers.

  3. skua says:

    Just saw a performance by Don Jnr.
    Warm up act, some black senator, went into “… whites of their eyes …. we’re ready to start shooting … stay on the battlefield until the last man drops” languaging.
    This will function to increase the liklihood of pro-Trump terrorism.

  4. Peterr says:

    I think Greta Thunberg got under Trump’s skin this afternoon with this tweet, replying to Trump’s “STOP THE COUNT!” tweet early this morning:

    So ridiculous. Donald must work on his Anger Management problem, then go to a good old fashioned movie with a friend! Chill Donald, Chill!

    If that sounds familiar, she took what Trump tweeted at her when Time named her the Person of the Year last December and swapped his name for hers.

    Greta’s Scandinavian heritage is showing – leave it to a Swede to know how to deal with a Troll. Per wiki, “Trolls are described in many ways in Scandinavian folk literature, but they are often portrayed as stupid, and slow to act. In fairy tales and legends about trolls, the plot is often that a human with courage and presence of mind can outwit a troll.”

    I think wiki has captured both Trump and Greta quite nicely in those two sentences.

      • gulageten says:

        Agree. More generally I have always felt that “Resist” (in its recent political / cultural usage) was a misnomer.

    • ducktree says:

      Sweet ~ I wonder what was playing on the screen at the movie house while Donald ignored Freddy’s early death?

      • John Paul Jones says:

        Fred died 26 September 1981. Continental Divide came out the week before, as did French Lieutenant’s Woman. Chariots of Fire was released on 25 September, so if you wanted to go the latest thing, that would’ve been the hot ticket of the week.

        Of course, if we’re thinking about Trump’s likely tastes, even though it’s probably too complicated for him to follow, Body Heat came out at the end of August, and was likely still in theaters a month later, as movies tended to stick around longer in those days. Heck, I recall that Dr Zhivago played for a little over a year in our town in 1966.

    • pasha says:

      i was not surprised to learn that her great-grandfather was awarded the nobel prize in physics, and wrote about the “greenhouse effect” of too much carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. she consistently shows herself to be artful as well as sharp

  5. Molly Pitcher says:

    I wish I had more to add other than that I share your anxiety. My concern has been for the interregnum since the start of the campaign. Trumps profile doesn’t promise that he won’t go down without a fight or torch the place on his way out.

    This will be viewed by our enemies as prime time to foment trouble at home and abroad. If all the rats leave the ship like Esper, there is no telling what sort of imbeciles Trump will surround himself with.

    This won’t be the lame duck session, it will be the wounded rat session.

    • earlofhuntingdon says:

      Trump is probably still in the denial phase. When he gets to the anger stage, watch out. He may eventually get to the bargaining stage, but his past suggests he’s never gone beyond it. I think he mostly flips between denial, anger, and back again.

      • Peterr says:

        Trump’s idea of bargaining is to tell the person he is negotiating with “If you don’t give me what I want, I’m leaving. I’ll build my hotel in the next town over . . .” or whatever deal he’s trying to make. Sometimes it works and the city forks over whatever deal he is asking for, but other times they say no and he leaves.

        Thing is, there’s no “next town over” for him to go to as President. Once that sinks in, he’s going to be in real trouble. Seriously. I’d love to get Mary Trump’s insight on that.

        • e.a.f. says:

          who knows with a person like Trump. Denial would be one thing, but then he’d continue to act as if he were president and not leaving office. The orders he might give could violate the Constitution, cause social unrest, riots, murders, etc. He wouldn’t care because he would have nothing to loose.

          Anger stage, he’ll blame everyone except himself. Then he will want to get even, revenge. Unfortunately he most likely doesn’t understand that old line about revenge is a dish best eaten cold. He could fire his Cabinet and blame them for not doing their jobs, he might go after Moscow Mitch and blame him. Now that would be fun.

          If he tries to destroy the country some of his billionaire friends may decide that isn’t going to work for them and their portfolios and have him “removed”.

          If he is really going off the deep end you’ll know if Melania moves out of the W.H. with the kid or the Ivanka team leaves for vacation in the Caribbean or South America. the sons are simply too stupid to know what to do.

      • Alan Charbonneau says:

        I said months ago that I was worried that if he lost he’d start a war. Iran, North Korea, and China were my 1,2, & 3 picks. He will want to burn the country to the ground (he’s done that to some degree already)

        He still scares me since nobody wants to rein him in. Would anyone be willing to invoke the 25th amendment at this stage of the game?

    • Tom Edelson says:

      During the wounded rat session, can I imagine Trump doing even worse things than he already has done? I sure can.

      Will he actually do them? Or is there something in him that will hold him back?

      Ethics? Don’t make me laugh.

      Empathy? Fuggedaboutit.

      Self-interest? That’s not so obviously impossible. He just might be capable of having a thought like this: “Damn, that would feel good. But they would put me in prison for it.”

      Not a prediction, but a hope.

      • Molly Pitcher says:

        Yeah, I say keep drinking whatever is in that glass in your hand. I don’t see him thinking he is headed for prison. He never has been, and now he will be a former President.

        • Sandwichman says:

          Watch for Barr to alter that old OLC memo to extend the alleged immunity from indictment to ex-Presidents.

  6. Peterr says:

    My kid isn’t helping much. Whenever a state reports a new vote count, they yell downstairs, regurgitating everything I’ve just read online. But they’re just as anxious as I am, and at 23 they haven’t yet lived through much election weirdness.

    I spent about 90 minutes yesterday with a group of college students, who had voted for the first time in their lives and were struggling to come to grips with the weirdness. A couple had been poll workers, which they said was a delightful experience, but the waiting had them chewing the walls. And it doesn’t help that they were also in the midst of midterms.

    Professionally speaking, there ought to be a special circle of hell for any professor who schedules a midterm exam for the day after an election.

  7. P J Evans says:

    Steve Bannon’s Twitter account has been suspended, after he talked about “heads on pikes” in connection with Fauci and Wray.

    • Rayne says:

      I can’t believe Bannon’s bullshit incitement is still up on Facebook and Youtube, though. I don’t Facebook so I can’t hunt it down to report it, will have to do that on Youtube.

      • BobCon says:

        Unless they change the rules (again) after January Trump’s account goes back to normal rules for suspension and permanent jail. Wouldn’t that be a treat if they enforced the rules on a private citizen.

      • P J Evans says:

        Youtube took down that episode. Not really enough, but at least that particular load of feces isn’t there.

  8. Greg Hunter says:

    That seems the right take as the Bill Of Rights, including the #2A, gave great power to the mob when it goes about over throwing the government even to the point of letting them fire the first shot.

    However, the Founders said the mob cannot fight the Constitutional Process when it chooses to over throw the government as legitimate voting cannot be questioned, only true in justice by a corrupt government may be attacked.

    MLK Jr. said there are just laws and unjust laws and while they claim to defend the Constitution they fail at every turn as they cannot or will not see injustice.

  9. Fraud Guy says:

    Living with a Q curious Trumpster, I have been hearing for weeks, primed by strange email lists and hidden websites continually taken down and moved (for their safety from Deep State death threats), that most of my neighbors have guns, are ready for the (race) war, and they know the Democrats will sell the country right after the Inauguration, but they will be surprised because they didn’t listen to Pompeo’s warning, and Gitmo has been cleared for them all.

    No, I don’t follow it all either, I’m exhausted trying to keep up and trying to debunk, but they are already primed.

  10. Rugger9 says:

    PA difference now 48,751 in favor of DJT. The march continues.

    Let’s also remember one big reason why the MAGA cult is like they are: between Sinclair, Faux, OANN, Infowars, Breitbart and Q-Anon (and they all cross-link to each other) their understanding of actual facts is on the order of North Koreans. A study done a few years back (IIRC during W’s term) showed that Faux viewers knew less than someone who took in no news at all. Things have intensified on that process.

    Since that’s all they know, they simply cannot process that they’re wrong and need to fight back against the unbelievers. It’s a trait the fundies have as well.

  11. Molly Pitcher says:

    Mary Trump was just on MSNBC with Lawrence O’Donnell saying that from what she has heard reported by people on the inside,Trump is ‘decompensating’ and she fears for his behavior over the next couple months. She called on the Republicans and shamed them for making no public effort to rein him in. She said that they are the only ones who can attempt to control his behavior

    “He has done long term, lasting damage to this country with what he just said in the statement he just made”.

  12. Ken Muldrew says:

    Re. Sedition,

    Remember, remember, the 5th of November,
    The Trump Tower treason and plot.
    I know of no reason the use of word treason
    should prove such a Gordian knot.

  13. Nehoa says:

    I think that once Biden clearly has 270 EC votes or more, the wind will go out of a lot of pro-Trump sails. Trump may rile up some of the young, white male rowdies looking for a fight, but I don’t think that the serious players – the military, national guard, and law enforcement are going to play along. I think they are going to stay in their barracks for the most part.
    What I worry about is that the rowdies will take their anger out on random non-white people. Best approach is to not engage with the rowdies. Except if they can be trolled to chase made-up antifa buses some more, that would be great.

    • Nehoa says:

      To expand a bit on my point about the serious players. We don’t have a large number of veterans from a defeated army that are hardened combat soldiers. I am thinking of the Confederate Army here, and the German army after WWI. These veterans became the enforcement arms of the post-Reconstruction South and the Freikorps in Germany respectively. They were the foundations for the apartheid/fascist governments in their regions. Our military was not defeated, just got asked to do impossible things. Our NG were support troops in Iraq or had no direct combat experience, and have Governor’s supervising their deployment. Police realize they are extremely exposed day in and day out in their communities and will only go so far in aiding and abetting Trump.

      • Molly Pitcher says:

        I hope you are right, but many people who have studied the Bugaloo Bois and the rest of the junior Nazi groups flourishing around the country now, say that there has been tremendous recruitment among the police and military for the last few years. The military has finally begun trying to sort out the closet racists and kick them out.

        This is just the sort of situation they have been practicing for.

      • Raven Eye says:

        “Our NG were support troops in Iraq or had no direct combat experience, and have Governor’s supervising their deployment.”

        Not sure I agree. I know some NG people who operated under “relaxed grooming standards” and a fair amount of time in caves in Afghanistan.

    • Eureka says:

      I’m so sleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeepy, I want to watch that odometer roll.

      (I added the updated # to my comment above — a Delco joke, home of everyone’s fav Philly columnist, Will Bunch — and nodded off before clicking save. Trying to last a couple more hours….)

  14. civil says:

    If you live in GA, NV, and AZ, or know people who live there or who have friends or family there, these states allow voters to cure (fix) mail-in ballots that were rejected due to errors.

    Voters can check online to find out whether their mail-in ballots were accepted or rejected; rejected ballots have to be fixed by specific deadlines that vary by state:
    GA: voters have through tomorrow, 11/6
    AZ: voters have through Tues., 11/10
    NV: voters have through Thurs., 11/12

    The following webpage has links to the state election websites where people can track their mail-in votes:
    https://www.democracydocket.com/2020/10/ballot-tracking/

    It also looks like there will be run-off votes for the GA Senate seats in January, and people have until Dec. 7 to register to vote if they aren’t already registered. These seats are likely to determine control of the Senate.

  15. Nehoa says:

    I hope Trump loses by 233,000, the number of dead in this country due to his incompetence. They voted through others.

    • Ginevra diBenci says:

      My sister and I both took things our dad gave us along when we voted. He was so looking forward to voting for Biden before Covid took him in May. If only we could have voted in North Carolina, where he lived, instead of in our own blue states where the electoral college renders us moot.

  16. Fran of the North says:

    For all our gnashing of teeth over the years about the MSM’s unwillingness or inability to call Trump and his minions out, it finally happened this evening during imPOTUS’ crazy conference tonight. CNBC and MSNBC cut away for fact checks, ABC broke in to correct the record. USA Today even took down their link.

    “How you gonna cry, when you don’t know how, when the spell is broken?”

    https://www.youtube.com/ watch?v=2C5WUSAspgk

    • Eureka says:

      I watched ABC live: they aired it for way too long, long after he’d hit his main propaganda points, damage done (I listed many of them on Rayne’s prior post). Not good enough, they need to do better. I hear Brian Williams repeating now that they didn’t air it on MSNBC, hopefully they cut off the firehose much sooner. Though why they carry anything by him live, to this day, defies all scholarship and journalism ethics. (As an aside, when Trump reeled his prop E-day night at 221am –> 4th, each of the OTA and cable news networks aired it.)

  17. Nehoa says:

    In the history of the world, who has been truly liberated? This is my list:
    1. People of the greater Roman Empire who were granted citizenship as the empire evolved.
    2. Early adherents of Islam who then believed they were equals to all others.
    3. The original Lutherans who embraced the printing of the Bible.
    4. Bhuddists who actually understood Bhudhism.
    5. Newton, Boyle, and to a lesser extent Leibniz
    6. Einstein because he was just so beyond the rest of us
    7. Claude Shannon father of information theory Bell Labs and those of us who have enjoyed his work thereafter.
    I will stop there and let history add to this list.

  18. FL Resister says:

    The lame ass fuck president is definitely from the Silly Party.
    To see and hear Trump refer to legally placed ballots that were legitimately being counted as fraudulent was to witness a shocking juxtaposition of power and competence..
    After the whining and droning on as he read from the page was mercifully over, once we had heard his litany of grievances and baseless accusations, a TV pundit asked, “why hasn’t there been an intervention. Someone else tweeted that Trump’s grievance session was the oddest concession speech he’d ever seen. .

    I am hoping they can keep Donald heavily sedated and the television shows and Twitter feeds are sufficient to hold his attention for enough to distract him when he’s not eating or tweeting..
    I also think this would be a good time for Trump to spend more time at his property at taxpayers’ expense.

  19. Eureka says:

    Vote-count tourists?:

    12:11 AM – November 6, 2020
    Police detain men after tip about vehicle with armed group heading to convention center
    https://www.inquirer.com/politics/election/live/elections-2020-results-candidates-updates-news-pennsylvania-20201105.html#card-280192728

    Philadelphia police detained two men late Thursday night after receiving a tip that a Hummer vehicle from Virginia with two or three people armed with firearms was headed to the Pennsylvania Convention Center, where ballot counting is underway for the presidential election.

    Just after 10:20 p.m., police reported they had received information about a 2003 gray or silver Hummer with Virginia tags that was occupied by several people armed with AR-15 rifles.

    […]

    On the back window of the Hummer were decals associated with the pro-Trump QAnon conspiracy movement, including a large “Q” and “#WWG1WGA,” which stands for “where we go one we go all.” The movement believes President Donald Trump is fighting a secret war against the “deep state” and that Democrats are led by satan-worshipping pedophiles. Trump has refused to denounce the movement.

    It was not immediately clear whether police found any weapons. A bomb-sniffing police dog was called in to check the Hummer. The occupants of the Hummer may have been staying at a nearby hotel, police said.

    No further information was immediately available.

    — Robert Moran


    Different traveler from VA today, via reporter’s thread on the “Stop the Steal” / Q / re-open / they don’t even know what they want “publicity event” in Harrisburg today (Gym Jordan attended):

    Stephen Caruso:

    In Harrisburg, about 80 to 100 people are on the steps of the Pennsylvania state capitol chanting “Stop Fraud! Four more years!”

    A speaker just started up. The crowd is full of Trump signs and hats. But the rally is not about getting any particular outcome, says speaker. (I’ll get name when he’s done.)

    “Stop the steal” vs. “Count every vote.” That’s the direction we are going.

    The speaker says his name is Scott Presler. He is from Virginia but appears to he an organizer.
    https://twitter.com/StephenJ_Caruso/status/1324426795555368961
    […]

    Thread includes video of the conceptually vacuous insert-your-meaning event, as does Presler’s timeline (linked in replies) — which is a real treat. He tweeted plans for a similar event to begin Friday noon.

    • Eureka says:

      Important thread on the VA —> Philly Hummer (clan) by a VA far-right watcher, re ties to VA pol [note: if linked, I wonder if FBI was monitoring, and who tipped off local LE]:

      Goad Gatsby:

      I am retweeting this because I think this Hummer is relevant
      https://twitter.com/GoadGatsby/status/1324591491986137089
      […]

      I am going to continue to go over my notes but I believe these individuals are tied to Virginia State Senator Amanda Chase and her Reopen Virginia Rally as well as other endeavors.

      I am trying to find my old screenshots of this guy, but he is a Qanon guy who does martial arts and draws comics of Amanda Chase doing karate on the Virginia Governor.

      Inquirer journalist thread/photos:

      Robert Moran: “QAnon decals on back window of Hummer parked near Pa. Convention Center and under investigation after police got a tip that occupants were armed and targeting the Convention Center where vote-counting in presidential election is underway. [photo; thread]”
      https://twitter.com/RobertMoran215/status/1324585236227854343

      Aside: twitter still allowing Trump to shitpost, mostly labeled but for his usual Section 230 rant wrap-up (223am)

  20. e.a.f. says:

    Rayne, you may be wearing out the hard wood floors, but I’m eating my way through this wait and I’m gaining weight, which I can ill afford to do. Turning on the t.v. every few hrs to check if there has been any changes is how I’m keeping sane while reading mostly junkie novels. the stress of this is killing me. Now I’m really happy about some of the wins, but the big one, the Presidency is still being decided. Every vote needs to be counted and that is a slow process, so its time for me to get with the agenda,

    Having Trump making stupid speeches in no way helps the U.S.A. nationally or internationally. If he continues this it could lead to violence. Just the gathering of people at voting counting centers, with out masks and social distancing is going to cause a lot more deaths in the country. In a country without health care for all, this will not turn out well.

    Do take care.

      • Eureka says:

        GA 665 now

        (going by MSNBC for most part now, that tweet way above was deleted)

        Also how does Biden win immediately with GA: if Biden has 253 and GA is 16 — who has called another state for him (Fox/AP re AZ?). Thanks for info.

        • Eureka says:

          Taniel: “If you’re staying up anyway, you still have time to stage what you’re doing so that you have a cool and interesting answer to this question.”
          https://twitter.com/Taniel/status/1324624073494831104
          3:06 AM · Nov 6, 2020

          “Where were you when Clayton County dropped will be a legendary question for anyone who follows elections for a long time to come.”

        • posaune says:

          I’m with you, Eureka. Staying up for the odometer roll, as you say. Trying to do a little data work on the side for my job.

        • Eureka says:

          Good on you for being productive, to boot — I’ve been up so long all I can handle is twitter (dog sound asleep at my side).

          348am: they just gave a PA update from Philly but sans the math and I didn’t catch it to do it myself

        • Eureka says:

          Falseroni on any PA update: Kornacki back on air explaining it was a misunderstanding.

          HOWEVER GA = 463, Clayton updates cont:

          @Taniel:

          Unreal: Trump’s Georgia lead is down to 463 votes.

          And roughly 2,550 ballots left. [in Clayton]
          3:41 AM · Nov 6, 2020·Twitter Web App

  21. mospeck says:

    when the demon is at your door
    in the morning it won’t be there no more
    ht tps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBzzdlpISFg
    This one be the winner :)
    but they been going so hard at it back and forth last two weeks since tuesday
    yea the ragman he draws circles up and down the block
    but no you don’t gotta go through all these things twice :)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kh6K_-a0c4

  22. posaune says:

    Thank you, bmaz!!! Is that ever good to see!

    After all that GA folks have been through this year,
    Aumaud Arbery, Rayshard Brooks, all the covid & deaths
    BLM folks being arrested, etc, etc, and they still put it out to vote!

    Courageous, persistent, disciplined people in GA have worked very hard.

    • bmaz says:

      And hats off to the fine people down in Georgia working their butts off in the middle of the night. It may be Friday morning, but the way the vote has been patiently and appropriately counted, across the country, is really quite impressive.

    • Ginevra diBenci says:

      Now is the time for Georgia to really prove that it leads the nation: give us a senate that can help put the country back together instead of standing as Mitch McConnell’s monstrous No to the people. Stacey Abrams, I’m becoming convinced, is the political genius of her generation. I’ve been swayed by listening to her, but more than that by seeing the galvanic change she brought to her state in the face of long odds and Brian effing Kemp. Let’s help her help us break McConnell’s stranglehold on the senate. Without it, Biden and Harris will be as stymied as Obama and Biden were after 2910.

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