On the Lawfare over the Steele Dossier

October 25: For those looking for “Reasons Why Dems Have Been Fucking Stupid on the Steele Dossier, a Long Essay,” it’s here; I screwed up the link.

Say, did you know that Christopher Steele and his company, Orbis Business Intelligence, claim that Fusion GPS, the US-based intelligence firm that hired him to collect dirt on Donald Trump, did not share that dirt with its clients?

Steele’s curious claims made from the comfort of the UK

That’s the rather improbable claim made in a May 18 filing in the British lawsuit Webzilla CEO Alexej Gubarev filed against Steele and his company in the UK. In response to questions about who was contractually prohibited from disclosing Steele’s reports, Steele claimed that while Fusion was permitted to share the information he gave them with their clients, they did not.

In relation to the pre-election memoranda the duty not to disclose intelligence to third parties without the prior agreement of [Steele and his company, Orbis] did not extend to disclosure by Fusion to its client(s), although the Defendants understand that copies of the memoranda were not disclosed by Fusion to its client(s).

In response to a follow-up question on whether Fusion’s clients were allowed to disclose any reports they got, Steele claimed that Fusion’s clients weren’t supposed to release the information.

[Steele and his company] understood that the arrangement between Fusion and its client(s) was that intelligence would not be disclosed.

Yet, in spite of the claim that Fusion never shared Steele’s intelligence reports with its clients, Steele admits that he gave off the record briefings, in one form or another, to reporters from six different American outlets.

The journalists initially briefed at the end of September 2016 by [Steele] and Fusion at Fusion’s instruction were from the New York Times, the Washington Post, Yahoo News, the New Yorker and CNN. [Steele] subsequently participated in further meetings at Fusion’s instruction with Fusion and the New York Times, the Washington Post and Yahoo News, which took place in mid-October 2016. In each of those cases the briefing was conducted verbally in person. In addition, and again at Fusion’s instruction, in late October 2016 [Steele] briefed a journalist from Mother Jones by Skype. No copies of the pre-election memoranda were ever shown or provided to any journalists by, or with the authorization of, the Defendants. The briefings involved the disclosure of limited intelligence regarding indications of Russian interference in the US election process and the possible co-ordination of members of Trump’s campaign team and Russian government officials.

So the folks footing the bill for all this never saw the reports they paid for, and if you believe Steele no reporters ever actually looked at the dossier. Steele makes no mention (in a lawsuit in the UK targeting just him, not Fusion GPS) of the evolving claims of BBC’s Paul Wood.

Steele’s claim that he wasn’t sharing the dossier itself is dubious for several reasons. For example, the defense makes no mention of Steele sharing the dossier with the FBI, in spite of multiple reports of him doing so.

More damning, one of the reporters with whom the dossier was shared before the election, BBC’s Paul Wood, has changed a published story about receiving the dossier on two occasions. The original story appeared like this.

Sometime between the original publication and 14:06 GMT, the paragraph claiming the American oppo research company, Fusion, disseminated the document was removed from the story.

Then, by 15:32 GMT — roughly 20 minutes after I did a post noting the first change — that passage was again changed, this time to suggest the pages were shown, but not given, to journalists.

I’ve been told second-hand that actual pages were given, not shown, to at least one journalist, suggesting the middle story may be the accurate one. Moreover, the actual dossier would have had to have been shared for James Clapper’s claim that the dossier “was widely circulated … among the media, members of Congress and Congressional staff ” to be true.

Note, too, that in an April declaration, Steele claimed that the briefings took place in “late summer/autumn 2016;” while those briefings took place before September 23, that’s only late summer if you’re fairly strict about when the equinox falls.

Suffice it to say, I don’t find Steele’s claims that persuasive. Which may be why he tried to challenge Gubarev’s efforts — in his US lawsuit against Buzzfeed — to obtain a deposition. The judge in that suit denied Steele’s request, though Steele can still challenge the request in the UK, where he’ll likely get a far friendlier reception.

Let me interrupt and suggest the Russians — and probably the most partisan Republicans — know who’s behind Steele’s dossier. By all appearances Russian interests are fighting a multi-front legal effort to force those details out in public, on top of any damage it does to Buzzfeed.

In the suit against Steele in the UK, Steele has basically explained he disseminated the December 13 memo — which is the one that mentions Webzilla and so is the only one that matters in that suit — to just two people: a hard copy to a senior UK government official (believed to be someone at MI6), and an encrypted copy to Fusion to pass on to John McCain via a Senior Director of McCain’s Institute for International Leadership, David Kramer. Steele admits his instructions that the last report remain classified were given over a secure phone call, not in writing. Steele admits giving off-the-record briefings (though not to BuzzFeed), but not the materials themselves, on the earlier reports, but not the December 13 one. In any case, given that BuzzFeed was not one of those outlets, Steele argues he can’t be held responsible for any defamation of Webzilla in the UK. Steele also emphasizes that the December 13 memo “did not represent (and did not purport to represent) verified facts, but were raw intelligence which had identified a range of allegations that further investigation.” And since the December 13 memo was produced for free, from intelligence “not actively sought, … merely received,” Steele doesn’t have to reveal who paid for the other reports, which don’t mention Webzilla.

Barring greymail, the Florida suit permits Webzilla to compare Steele’s answers with Fusion’s

That’s all well and good, but in its Florida suit, Webzilla is pursuing a deposition from Fusion GPS as well as Steele (curiously, the joint status report says nothing about deposing McCain or Kramer).

For its part, Buzzfeed appears to be pursuing a graymail defense. Around July 7, Buzzfeed sent subpoenas to a bunch of national security witnesses who are not going to want to testify.

Six weeks ago, Defendants  served subpoenas for depositions and the production of documents on several third party witnesses, including several government agencies and their former officials. These include the FBI, DOJ, ODNI, CIA, and James Comey, James Clapper, and John Brennan.

Particularly Comey and the FBI are likely to invoke ongoing investigations to refuse to give a deposition.

Still, comparing the stories of Steele and Fusion may produce some discomfort, all the more so if Webzilla succeeds in making Steele attest to the things he said in the UK in the US.

Fusion was far less cooperative with the Senate Judiciary Committee than made out

Which brings us to efforts in Congress. As I’ve said before, I think Chuck Grassley’s efforts to understand Fusion’s role in the dossier are good faith efforts. While a key focus of that is on Steele’s relationship with the FBI, Grassley fought for five months to get Fusion to cooperate with the Committee, which Fusion head Glenn Simspon finally did in a 10 hour August 22 interview with the Senate Judiciary Committee (See release 1, release 2, release 3, hearing statement 1, release 4, release 5, hearing statement 2, release 6 for Grassley’s efforts). Democrats — apparently led by Rachel Maddow — made much about the appearance. But the main outcome was nothing more than a carefully crafted statement for the benefit of Fusion’s clients assuring them Simpson hadn’t revealed their names.

While Simpson’s attorney said his client provided significant details about his firm’s findings, he did not reveal the identities of those who paid for his research.

Simpson “kept the identities of Fusion GPS’ clients confidential,” Levy said in his statement. “Fusion GPS represents businesses, individuals and, occasionally, political clients on both the right and the left. When those clients want Fusion GPS to keep their identities confidential, Fusion GPS honors that commitment without exception – just as law firms and businesses do all over the country.”

A Grassley staffer offered a very different take than the celebratory one Democrats claimed to Fox News’ Catherine Herridge.

“Fusion’s initial production of documents consisted of solely of headlines from publicly available news reports and more than 7,500 pages of blank paper,” Grassley spokesman Taylor Foy said. “Fusion eventually provided a copy of the same unverified dossier that’s been publicly available since January, and a privilege log that raises more questions than it answers.”

Fox reported this week that Fusion GPS gave the committee 40,000 documents.

The records were finally provided by Simpson and his legal team after Grassley sent several letters raising questions about the dossier, moved a Judiciary Committee hearing to accommodate Simpson’s schedule, and withdrew a subpoena in return for a pledge of cooperation.

“I’d note that only after the subpoena did Simpson indicated any willingness to cooperate voluntarily, yet the documents produced by his legal team have not been responsive to the committee’s questions,” Foy said.

Effectively, Fusion is still refusing to cooperate, over five months after Grassley’s first request.

The other notable development from Congress is Devin Nunes’ efforts — even as people who haven’t recused from the Russian investigation are trying to negotiate an interview with Steele — to search out the spy directly. He sent two staffers to London to try to contact Steele, without informing the people on the House Intelligence Committee who are actually supposed to be conducting an investigation.

After getting Steele to commit to one Webzilla suit, Alfa sued

As noted, on May 18 effectively Steele made a set of claims in the UK that — while sketchy — nevertheless would bracket off questions about the circumstances of the larger dossier’s production by claiming that the last report, the one pertinent to Webzilla, basically had a virgin birth.

Which is why I find the timing of this suit — a  May 26 lawsuit by Alfa Bank against BuzzFeed — so interesting. As I noted here, the September 14 Steele dossier report on Alfa Bank isn’t all that damning. It alleges Alfa did some corrupt stuff for Putin back when he was Deputy Mayor of St. Petersburg. Particularly given that report has nothing to do with Trump directly, I suspect the report appears in the dossier because of the allegations of weird communications between a Trump marketing server and the bank; the allegations had already been shared with the FBI and were beginning to be shared with journalists at about precisely that moment.

The suit nods to such a theory without mentioning it directly.

More than one defamatory meaning can be drawn from this passage. It suggests that Alfa and Messrs. Fridman and Aven use their knowledge of past bribery of President Putin as a means of criminally extorting continuing favorable treatment for their business interests from his government. Within the context ofthe entire Dossier, it also implies that Alfa and its three officials willingly maintain the close relationship with
President Putin based on the “kompromat” they hold on him by cooperating in some unspecified way in the Kremlin’s campaign to interfere in the U.S. election.

At the same time, in context, the whole of CIR 112 can also be understood to suggest that because oftheir past (and possibly current) relationship involving mutually beneficial corrupt practices, Alfa and its three officials are required to do President Putin’s bidding, which includes cooperating in the Kremlin efforts to influence the outcome of the recent U.$. election. The statements quoted from the Dossier are false

But one of the real points of the lawsuit is not just that Buzzfeed published the dossier, but called out Alfa bank, correcting its spelling, even while acknowledging that the spelling indicated an error.

The Article specifically refers to Alfa as having been named in the Dossier, while acknowledging that the Dossier “is not just unconfirmed: It includes some clear errors. The [Dossier] misspells the name of one company, ‘Alpha Group,’ throughout. It is Alfa Group.”

The Article, by explicitly referring to Alfa, increases the likelihood that persons interested in Alfa (including but not limited to government intelligence officials, regulatory authorities, financial institutions, print and online news media and journalists) would search the Dossier to find out what it says about Alfa.

In any case, because this report was part of the dossier before it got shared with journalists, and because it was among the reports paid for by yet-unknown sources, Alfa will have cause to ask all about those details — details which Steele worked so hard to hide with the sketchy story he told in the UK. And Alfa filed the suit just a week after Steele committed to those facts in the UK.

Even aside from the timing, however, the background to the suit is worth mention.

It came out as part of the confirmation process for Trump transition official and former Jeff Sessions staffer Brian Benczkowski to be Assistant Attorney General of DOJ’s Criminal Division. Days before his confirmation, he sent Chuck Grassley letters revealing that not only had his firm, Kirkland & Ellis, confidentially represented Alfa bank, but he personally had overseen one of the investigations into the weird communications data. It came out later that he also consulted on Alfa’s plan to sue Buzzfeed.

Dianne Feinstein described at length why she considered this problematic, particularly given Benczkowski’s refusal to recuse himself from the Mueller investigation and any cases involving Alfa Bank.

I very much appreciate that Mr. Benczkowski has agreed to speak publicly about his work for Alfa Bank and I think it’s an important topic to understand given the position he’s been nominated for.

As I understand it, Mr. Benczkowski participated in President Trump’s transition team from September of last year to January of this year. He led the transition team’s work at the Justice Department, which is now led by his former boss, Attorney General Jeff Sessions.

Mr. Benczkowski told the committee that the retention of former FBI Director James Comey was discussed by those on the transition team, including himself.

In March, within two months of leaving the transition team, Mr. Benczkowski agreed to represent Alfa Bank.

Specifically, his work for Alfa Bank went to the heart of the reported investigations. He worked with a computer forensics firm to determine any ties between servers of Alfa Bank and the Trump Organization, and also whether and how private server information had gotten out of the ban.

Additionally, he reviewed the “Steele dossier,” a private investigator’s file on alleged links between Russia and the Trump campaign. He did this for Alfa Bank to consider suing Buzz Feed for defamation over their online publication of the dossier. Alfa Bank, in fact, did sue Buzz Feed on May 26 of this year.

In April, while Mr. Benczkowski was working for Alfa Bank, Attorney General Sessions’s chief of staff asked him about his interest in leading the Criminal Division.

Mr. Benczkowski’s law firm then notified Alfa Bank of his potential nomination for the Trump administration. But the fact that Mr. Benczkowski continued representing Alfa Bank, until the day of his nomination, which was June 6, raises questions. After he found out about his potential nomination, why did he continue his representation of Alfa Bank?

It is clear to me that Mr. Benczkowski is knowledgeable about issues related to an ongoing investigation. So I asked before this hearing if he would commit himself to recusing—not only from cases involving Alfa Bank as his former client, but also matters within Special Counsel Mueller’s investigation.

He would not commit to recusing himself. I’m concerned with his refusal, especially given the position for which he has been nominated.

In other words, days before he got the offer to oversee all criminal investigations in the country, Alfa had sued Buzzfeed (though a different firm is representing Alfa in the suit. Benczkowski’s nomination hasn’t been considered in any of the confirmation votes the committee has considered since.

The lawsuit, even more than Nunes’ free-lance efforts in London, seems like an attempt to expose highly inconvenient information about the dossier.

It’s all perfectly legal. But taken altogether, it’s clear that some really well-connected businesses run by Russians are using British and US courts to try to expose information they all seem to know exists.

Remember: the Russians learned about this dossier by October 31, if not before. There are real questions about the provenance of the document as leaked to Buzzfeed. There are real questions about whether some of the material in it wasn’t offered to Steele’s sources as deliberate disinformation — something recently floated by British spy historian Ben Macintyre.

S.L.Do you think the Russians really have something on Trump?

B.M. I can tell you what the veterans of the S.I.S. [the British Secret Intelligence Service, or MI6] think, which is yes, kompromat was done on him. Of course, kompromat is done on everyone. So they end up, the theory goes, with this compromising bit of material and then they begin to release parts of it. They set up an ex-MI6 guy, Chris Steele, who is a patsy, effectively, and they feed him some stuff that’s true, and some stuff that isn’t true, and some stuff that is demonstrably wrong. Which means that Trump can then stand up and deny it, while knowing that the essence of it is true. And then he has a stone in his shoe for the rest of his administration.

It’s important to remember that Putin is a K.G.B.-trained officer, and he thinks in the traditional K.G.B. way.

Particularly given that the last report in the dossier came out after its existence became known, it would have been especially easy to include disinformation that can now be exploited for this campaign of lawfare.

And while Buzzfeed’s graymail is likely to be effective and Steele’s deposition in the US is in no way assured, thus far the lawfare has revealed a lot of data that doesn’t really make sense.

Update: WashEx reports the House Intelligence Committee subpoenaed FBI and DOJ for information on the dossier and, having not gotten a response, has now also subpoeaned Christopher Wray and Jeff Sessions (who of course should be recused).

The committee issued the subpoenas — one to the FBI, an identical one to the Justice Department — on August 24, giving both until last Friday, September 1, to turn over the information.

Neither FBI nor Justice turned over the documents, and now the committee has given them an extension until September 14 to comply.

Illustrating the seriousness with which investigators view the situation, late Tuesday the committee issued two more subpoenas, specifically to FBI Director Christopher Wray and Attorney General Jeff Sessions, directing them to appear before the committee to explain why they have not provided the subpoenaed information.

The subpoenas are the result of a months-long process of committee investigators requesting information from the FBI and Justice Department. Beginning in May, the committee sent multiple letters to the FBI and Justice requesting information concerning the Trump-Russia affair.

I actually have no problems with the questions Congress is asking about the dossier (though I do think Mueller’s investigation should be given deference, if he asks for it). What’s funny, though, is that none of the committees are asking CIA and ODNI for more information on when they learned about the dossier. As I’ve noted their answers about it have been laughable, to put it charitably. But that might risk committing oversight.

Timeline

February 3: Webzilla and Alexej Gubarev sue Buzzfeed

March 27: Grassley first submits questions to Fusion

April, unknown date: Sessions Chief of Staff inquires about Benczkowski’s interest in serving as Assistant Attorney General

April 3: Steele Defence in UK Webzilla suit

May 18: Steele’s response to claimants request for further information

May 22: Ursula Ungaro denies BuzzFeed request to move suit to NYC in US Webzilla suit

May 26: Alfa Bank sues Buzzfeed in NY

June 6: Brian Benczkowski offered Assistant Attorney General position

July 19-21: Kirkland & Ellis disclose Benczkowski’s ties to Alfa bank

July 25: Benczkowski confirmation hearing

August 10: Ungaro requests UK require Steele provide a deposition in this case

August 10: Steele fights deposition request in US Webzilla suit

August 15: Ungaro denies Steele request

August 22: Glenn Simpson submits to 10 hour transcribed interview with Senate Judiciary Committee

August 24: HPSCI subpoenas FBI and DOJ for information on dossier

September 14: Extended deadline for FBI and DOJ to comply with HPSCI subpoena

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    • JustAYokel says:

      Macintyre’s view jibes with Daniel Hoffman’s:
      “From the perspective of an intelligence officer, I would assess Russia wanted to create the appearance of collusion even if there was in fact no real evidence any collusion ever took place.

      Uh, so the Dems are playing right into Putin’s hands and Grassley is a patriot, right?

      One thinks more clearly if one imagines one has no a horse in the race…

  1. orionATL says:

    a simple explanation for fusion gps’ being contacted by a republican to do a dossier on trump was that the client was a trump opponent. at that initial point in the project was the scope of the oppo research limited by the client to u. s. history or was russia specifically included? was any dossier of thatvresearch given to or used by the republican client?

    with all else that is known and being investigated about gps fusion/steele why isn’t the name(s) of the initial republican initiator known and now disclosed? why does no one even seem particularly interested? knowing that would allow a lot of focused questions instead of the keystone cops investigations we have at present.

    a simple explanation for why some democrat party person or organization was handed the republican initated dossier after june 2016 (if that’s what happened) is that it was given to the dems as part of an ongoing never-trump effort. did the dem clients have a new scope of work? did they point gps fusion to russia as part of a new scope of work? did dem clients ever see or ever use gps fusion work?

    i repeat my question for dem side of funding gpf fusion/steele: with all else that is known and being investigated about gps fusion/steele why isn’t the name(s) of the initial democrat initiator known and now disclosed? why does no one even seem particularly interested?

    then i suppose there might have been a third phase of gps fusion/steele dossier building when non-politicsl party parties, like intell agencies, might have been interested and involved. would any such agency be stupid enough to be involved in providing info for or otherwise intervening in the dossier? i would not expect so, but then i never get the memos.

    as for easy-to-spot intell agency/leadership public lies and obfuscations about the dossier, why would we expect anything else? lying and obfuscating publicly is what intell agencies do for a living. they generally have no intention of giving up an easy public acknowledgement about any matter involving themselves. better to present an uncertain target for opponents.

    with rabid trump loyalists in every major intelligence agency leadership position except nsa, why has no detailed trump-defending commentary about the gps fusion dossier’s anecdotes appeared in public? why do slippery chuck grassley and devious devin nunes seem to be the trump team’s primary public defenders. plus, as emptywheel says here, the russians – for god’s sake!

    finally, is attacking the provenance and accuracy of the dossier the russian’s best defensive gambit having been caught meddling in the 2016 election?

    • orionATL says:

      this cite has to do with forthcoming testimony by dt, jr, not gps fusion, but…..

      our prez demonstrates what a ham-fisted political operator he is by overtly engaging in bribery of a republican senate committee chair who will control the questioning in the coming interview of the senate judiciary committee with his son don, jr. about the famous january meeting in trump tower with a gang of russian operatives.

      https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/30/trump-tower-russia-meeting-chuck-grassley

      • emptywheel says:

        We know it was someone associated with Bush. That’s different, especially when you consider the associates the former CIA Director’s son has.

        • orionATL says:

          ew sez:

          “… associates the former CIA Director’s son has….”

          what has “former CIA director” got to do with anything? is this implied “deep state” hocus-pocus?

          george h. w. bush was cia director for 1 year (1976-77). that was 40 yrs ago. it would be a miracle if most of those he worked with are still alive or without alzheimer’s. why mention him?

          now it is true that one of his sons was prez, but g.w., thru his v. p. cheney, fucked the cia over so royally on intel manipulation and torture that i’d be astonished if any of them would work with a bush.

          but what do i know about washington’s wily ways?

        • bmaz says:

          Um, maybe the decades of contacts in and out of the agency Poppy Bush has, from time there, to time as an on point VP for eight years and then President for four more and also involvement with the Carlyle  Group?

          You really need more than that?

        • orionATL says:

          bmaz –

          you bet i do.

          name dropping doesn’t count, bmaz. are there still close contacts, trust worthy contacts after 25-40 yrs? or are there not?

          what’s the carlyle group got to do with anything? are you saying, definitely, that they would be willing to get into a covert war of bush v trump with intel/subversion work? with all they’d have to lose if discovered?

        • bmaz says:

          I am not saying anything definitively. But if you underestimate the ability of the Carlyle group of current, and even more importantly former players, then you have not paid attention to a lot over the years here. Is there “definitive” information? Well yes, in the past, there is. And if you doubt the ties the Bush emily still has to these “spooky” concerns,then I cannot help you. I have no clue what, if any, that played out, but Marcy was NOT wrong to raise the question.

        • orionATL says:

          bmaz@1:11

          oh come on bmaz. if you made an argument like this in court you’d get stomped on.

          – “Is there “definitive” information? Well yes, in the past, there is.” no.

          “in the past there WAS…”, bmaz

          – ” but Marcy was NOT wrong to raise the question.”

          marcy is nor WRONG to raise any question, nor did i say she was. and i am not wrong (in that sense of wrong) to challenge what marcy wrote. isn’t that the way dialogue works at emptywheel, bmaz?

        • Willis Warren says:

          I’d be interested if anyone has any specific data of the Fusion GPS and CIA connection.  Fusion seems to have a lot of sketchy clients/employees that don’t seem to have any issues with ethics violations.

          But, I still don’t see why it’s surprising that Bush was digging dirt on Trump, or at least letting people know that Trump is dirty.  It’s not like this is news to anyone that cares.  Trump’s invulnerability insulated him from anything in the Steele Dossier.

          https://cgrozev.wordpress.com/2017/07/15/trump-cometh-are-we-worried-yet/

        • Willis Warren says:

          LOL,

          The genius of the Republican machine over the last 20 years or so is that they shift blame (at least their base infers blame) to the democrats.  So, by pretending they care about who is behind the Steele dossier, they make crooked Hillary the focus.  I doubt they really want to know who originally sanctioned it.  They probably don’t care about Russian interference at all, frankly, as the Kochs et al are probably jealous of Putin’s ability to steal the public sector while they’ve been trying to dismantle it

          Have you seen this,

          https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/904813776033251328

          If this is the Russkies trying to get Trump’s attention, I predict a Category 5 tweet storm

      • TGuerrant says:

        From http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-steele/former-mi6-spy-known-to-u-s-agencies-is-author-of-reports-on-trump-in-russia-idUSKBN14W0HN on Jan. 12, 2017:

        Steele was initially hired by FusionGPS, a Washington-based political research firm, to investigate Trump on behalf of unidentified Republicans who wanted to stop Trump’s bid for the party’s nomination. The BBC said on Wednesday, “He (Steele) was compiling this report on behalf of initially Trump’s opponent Jeb Bush,” referring to one of Trump’s 16 opponents in the 2016 Republican primary.

        The BBC subsequently said on Thursday that its correspondent misspoke.

        I’m unclear about how one misspeaks a two-syllable name like Jeb Bush, but perhaps the BBC’s correction should have said, “Our correspondent made the wrong assumptions from hints his source dropped” or “Our correspondent’s source made the wrong assumptions about who his client was.”

        • greengiant says:

          Simple,  when BBC asked Jeb Bush people they denied everything,  so they edited any reference to Bush or GOP PAC out of their on line article,  rather than leave it in “print” as single sourced along with adding a denial.

          It will be interesting if all those Russians killed and imprisoned as a result of the dossier were actually working in Putin’s interest and have been sacrificed to cripple Trump as effectively as Clinton was crippled.

    • orionATL says:

      if you want answers to basic questions in the russia&elections matter, like who hired steele and when, you got to leave the comfort and nuances of the dinosaur media and read something like breitbart:

      http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/06/28/gop-senators-request-fbis-surveillance-warrants-russia-interference-probe/

      like this for example:

      “… GOP Senators Request FBI’s Surveillance Warrants from ‘Russia Interference’ Probe

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      AP/J. Scott Applewhite

      by AARON KLEIN28 Jun 2017224

      Senior Republican members of the Senate Judiciary Committee have requested that the FBI and Department of Justice turn over applications for any warrants to monitor the communications of U.S. citizens associated with the investigation into alleged Russia interference in the 2016 presidential election.

      The applications would have been submitted under the Obama administration.  According to news media accounts, applications were made to conduct surveillance against members of President Donald Trump’s election campaign.

      Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley and Sen. Lindsey Graham, a panel member of the Committee, made the request as part of the probe into alleged Russian interference as well as the circumstances surrounding the firing of former FBI Director James Comey.

      In the letter, the senators wrote that they are seeking any warrant applications that the FBI submitted to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISA or FISC), the court’s responses, as well as “all final, signed FISA applications that the FBI and the Justice Department submitted to the FISC; and the FISC’s responses to the final, signed applications.”

      The letter referred to a Guardian report from January that the FISA court turned down applications to monitor four Trump campaign members.

      On April 11, the Washington Post cited “law enforcement and other U.S. officials” stating that, as part of its investigation into alleged Russian collusion, the FBI obtained a secret FISA court order last summer to monitor the communications of Carter Page, the American oil industry consultant who was tangentially and briefly associated with Trump’s presidential campaign.

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      For months now, Page has been publicly calling for the U.S. government to release information revealing how the reported FISA warrant against him was obtained.

      In response to the news of Grassley’s and Graham’s request, Page told Breitbart News on Wednesday that the senators “took an important step forward in restoring justice in America.”

      Reliance on discredited dossier?

      In April, CNN reported that the controversial 35-page dossier on Trump compiled by a former British intelligence officer served as part of the FBI’s justification for seeking the FISA court’s approval to clandestinely monitor Page.

      Earlier this week, Page told this reporter the document that he referred to as the “dodgy dossier” served as the “central foundation” for the FBI’s extensive questioning of him in March about alleged Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election.

      “While the Obama Administration gave Hillary Clinton a get-out-of-jail-free pass on her illegal email server ‘matter’, they joyfully accepted the opposition political research fabricated by political consultants associated with her campaign as false evidence in a failed attempt to rig the 2016 election,” Page contended in a follow-up interview on Wednesday.

      The dossier in question was authored by former intelligence agent Christopher Steele, who was reportedly paid by Democrats and anti-Trump Republicans to investigate Trump. Last month, Steele conceded in court documents that part of his work still needed to be verified.

      In April, Steele conceded in court documents that part of his work still needed to be verified.

      The dossier claimed that a “Russian source” alleged that Page met secretly in Moscow with Kremlin officials to discuss the possible lifting of U.S. sanctions as well as compiling a Kremlin “file” on Hillary Clinton. Page has steadfastly denied the dossier claims.

      The same dossier contains wild and unproven claims that the Russians had information regarding Trump and sordid sexual acts, including the widely mocked claim that Trump hired prostitutes and had them urinate on a hotel room bed.

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      Citing a “Kremlin insider,” the dossier, which misspelled the name of a Russian diplomat, also claimed that Trump lawyer Michael Cohen held “secret meetings” with Kremlin officials in Prague in August 2016.

      That charge unraveled after Cohen revealed he had never traveled to Prague, calling the story “totally fake, totally inaccurate.” The Atlantic confirmed Cohen’s whereabouts in New York and California during the period the dossier claimed that Cohen was in Prague. Cohen reportedly produced his passport showing he had not traveled to Prague.

      In testimony earlier this month to the U.S. Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, former FBI Director James B. Comey admitted that he pushed back against a request from President Donald Trump to possibly investigate the origins of “salacious material” that the agency possessed in the course of its investigation into alleged Russian interference.

      The “salacious material” is clearly a reference to the dossier, as Breitbart Newsreported.

      In testimony last month, Comey repeatedly refused to answer questions about his agency’s ties to the dossier.

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      Author and journalist Paul Sperry reported in the New York Post last week that the Senate Judiciary Committee earlier this month threatened to subpoena Fusion GPS, the secretive firm that hired Steele to produce the dossier, because the firm reportedly refused to answer questions about who financed the dossier.

      Sperry raised further questions regarding possible connections between Fusion GPS and Hillary Clinton:

      Fusion GPS was on the payroll of an unidentified Democratic ally of Clinton when it hired a long-retired British spy to dig up dirt on Trump. In 2012, Democrats hired Fusion GPS to uncover dirt on GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney. And in 2015, Democratic ally Planned Parenthood retained Fusion GPS to investigate pro-life activists protesting the abortion group.

      Moreover, federal records show a key co-founder and partner in the firm was a Hillary Clinton donor and supporter of her presidential campaign.

      In September 2016, while Fusion GPS was quietly shopping the dirty dossier on Trump around Washington, its co-founder and partner Peter R. Fritsch contributed at least $1,000 to the Hillary Victory Fund and the Hillary For America campaign, Federal Election Commission data show. His wife also donated money to Hillary’s campaign.

      Aaron Klein is Breitbart’s Jerusalem bureau chief and senior investigative reporter. He is a New York Times bestselling author and hosts the popular… “and

      • orionATL says:

        i apologize for the gross error in copying. i only wanted to include a few sentences following:

        “… Author and journalist Paul Sperry reported in the New York Post…”

        but the little blue tear drops got away from me undetected while i was editing. damn!!

  2. TomA says:

    One possible explanation for the endless lack of progress in the RussiaGate investigation is that most of DC has dirt on their hands and they are all desperately trying to drag this thing out in hopes that the public will get bored with the story and eventually forgetaboutit. An enormous amount of rigamarole has played out already and the water has only gotten murkier. With all the leaking (and hacking) that has occurred during the past year, it is stunning that so many core secrets remain hidden.

    • bmaz says:

      This is patently ludicrous. And you have no idea whatsoever what Mueller has, and acting like you do just makes you look silly.

    • TGuerrant says:

      Dragged out?  For a federal investigation of any complexity, Mueller’s is rocketing along.  The many core secrets should remain hidden until Mueller indicts or reports.  That they’ve remained hidden with his large team in the field and multiple congressional committees chasing many of the same targets actually speaks to the integrity of those collecting and analyzing evidence.

  3. pseudonymous in nc says:

    In fairness to Steele, mid September is very much “late summer / autumn” in the English mind. They’re still playing cricket.

    The feedback loop hypothesis has a lot going for it, and the question then becomes exactly when Steele might be getting fed disinfo based on what he’s already submitted to his clients, not simply because he’s out there looking for it. Before late October, surely: the sensationalism of the Page-Cohen-Sechin strand feels like it’s feeding demand. Around the time of the “buyers’ remorse” note could also be a place to draw a line — there’s always something cunningly compelling about a narrative pivot — but perhaps it’s as early as mid-September.

    • emptywheel says:

      Right: there are actual conflicts that develop around that period, between the claim they’re not going to leak anything more and the active efforts to do that.

      Not to mention, the dossier is always several steps behind the actual hack-and-leak news. Particularly given the batshit report on cyber (suggesting RU hasn’t succeeded in hacking G7 targets), it’s likely Steele doesn’t have good sources on that area. Or that RU kept it really close hold.

  4. Charles says:

    “As I’ve said before, I think Chuck Grassley’s efforts to understand Fusion’s role in the dossier are good faith efforts.”

    That might make it the first altruistic thing Grassley has ever done. Everything I have seen tells me that Grassley is trying to use these hearings to prove that the Democrats are the real culprits.

    • emptywheel says:

      That’s not actually fair. Grassley is one of the best champions for whistleblowers in Congress, among other things.

      • orionATL says:

        yes, grassley is a champion of whistleblowers and that is a very important area of policy. apparently he and wyden think along the same lines and maybe someday they’ll get some legislation passed. that’s at least hopeful.

        but grassley also stopped cold merrick garland’s progess toward a senate vote as supreme court justice, and thus was principal party to the republican theft of a supreme court seat from the obama administration.

        it’s good politics to be on the side of the angels where allegations of waste, fraud, abuse, and incompetence are concerned – plays well in iowa, i’m sure – but what of grassley’s historically aberrant stand on garland and, subsequently, his paving the way for an extreme republican political operative, neil gorsuch, to sit on the supreme court, setting up the likelihood of plunging the nation into political chaos over abortion and contraception?

        grassley is just another old senate politician, more loyal by far to his party than his nation.

        as for the russia business, if grassley asks relevant questions he’s doing a useful job, republican or no, but there i see no reason at all to trust his motives.

      • Charles says:

        Other people’s mileage varies on that issue. In a room full of ugly, even a homely person looks attractive.

        But, ok, I will grant you whistleblowers. Here are some random selections:

        Grassley tries to paint Comey as the bad guy.

        Grassley attacks those trying to get Trump to stop abusing emoluments clause

        Grassley seeks to ensure that no DACA recipient can work.

        Whenever a news report begins “Iowa Senator Chuck Grassley…”, that’s my signal to put wadding in my mouth to avoid serious injury. Really, since Jeff Sessions was promoted, almost no one in the Senate offends me as much as that man. Not even Ted Cruz.

        Adding: remember Grassley’s role in delaying the ACA under the pretense that he was working with Democrats? Grr.

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