Better Put Tom Cotton and His 46 Co-Conspirators on the No-Fly List
As Josh Rogin first reported, Tom Cotton and 46 other Senators have written a letter to the “leaders of the Islamic Republic of Iran.” They want to warn them that without Senate ratification, the agreement they’re working to sign with President Obama will just be an executive agreement that a future President could just revoke with the stroke of a pen.
Now, much as I’d like the Executive to be reined in in other areas, foreign affairs is the area where they’re supposed to act like an Executive. That was the whole point of moving from a confederation to a federation. So this intervention is improper in that sense, on top of serving the purported interests of Israeli right-wingers more than serving American interests.
The entire production ought to focus more attention on something I’ve been trying to get people to look at: the fundraiser held directly after Congress willingly acted like Bibi Netanyahu’s trained seal, also reported by Josh Rogin. Did Sheldon Adelson pay off all of Bibi’s trained seals? On what scale?
Plus, Jack Goldsmith catches the Senators in an error about what the Constitution actually says (Tom Cotton as a JD from Harvard Law School, where Goldsmith teaches).
The letter states that “the Senate must ratify [a treaty] by a two-thirds vote.” But as the Senate’s own web page makes clear: “The Senate does not ratify treaties. Instead, the Senate takes up a resolution of ratification, by which the Senate formally gives its advice and consent, empowering the president to proceed with ratification” (my emphasis). Or, as this outstanding 2001 CRS Report on the Senate’s role in treaty-making states (at 117): “It is the President who negotiates and ultimately ratifies treaties for the United States, but only if the Senate in the intervening period gives its advice and consent.” Ratification is the formal act of the nation’s consent to be bound by the treaty on the international plane. Senate consent is a necessary but not sufficient condition of treaty ratification for the United States. As the CRS Report notes: “When a treaty to which the Senate has advised and consented … is returned to the President,” he may “simply decide not to ratify the treaty.”
This is a technical point that does not detract from the letter’s message that any administration deal with Iran might not last beyond this presidency. (I analyzed this point here last year.) But in a letter purporting to teach a constitutional lesson, the error is embarrassing.
Me, I’ve got another concern for these poor Senators.
Iran’s leaders are, according to the Senators’ own claims, evil terrorist-supporting murderers. Indeed, our own government considers them as such, not only imposing sanctions but — according to Dianne Feinstein and Keith Alexander — also treating Iran as one of the few “terrorist groups” association with which the NSA can use to contact chain on its dragnets of American communications.
In short, the government believes that anyone conducting communications with such people are terrorist suspects themselves, and should be dumped into a big database to have all their collected metadata analyzed for further signs of terrorism.
Tom Cotton and his 46 collaborators are now just 1-degree of separation from what they consider some badass terrorists. We’ve seen people be put on the No-Fly list for far less.
I don’t think that’s right, mind you. There’s a problem with metadata analysis.
That’s a problem the Senators might do better looking to correct, rather than working to keep the Middle East unstable for Israel’s interests.
Update: As the screen capture above makes clear, Tom Cotton has now placed himself at one degree of separation from the terrorist sponsor Ayatollah Khamenei via dead tree and Twitter.
quote”In short, the government believes that anyone conducting communications with such people are terrorist suspects themselves, and should be dumped into a big database to have all their collected metadata analyzed for further signs of terrorism.
“Tom Cotton and his 46 collaborators are now just 1-degree of separation from what they consider some badass terrorists. We’ve seen people be put on the No-Fly list for far less.”unquote
Indeed, in that case, then what about the President himself???? Or Kerry and others in the Executive branch? THEY communicate with these terrorists as well, no?
(I’d give a million bucks to see this happen.) :)
(insert facepalm smiley here.)
It’s not only the contact chaining that gets them in trouble. They are also in trouble because they are taking action that is in direct conflict with, and that is trying to counteract, the established foreign policy of the United States of America. Just as if I would pick the wrong side of a Middle Eastern battle to go fight on they would stop me at the border – or even throw me in jail – you can’t try to help the other side of a war in which we are on one side only. And they’re certainly doing that – they would assert, I believe, that we are at war with Iran. Why should they not be seen as giving aid and comfort to the enemy? String ‘em up, every last one.
*”Iran’s leaders are, according to the Senators’ own claims, evil terrorist-supporting murderers.”
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They are also godless. [Jerry Boykin] “He told audiences that terrorists hated America because it was a nation of Christian believers and that the enemy in the war on terrorism was Satan.
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In one speech, he recalled a Muslim fighter in Somalia who said he had the protection of Allah against US forces.
“Well you know what I knew, that my God was bigger than his,” said Lt Gen Boykin. “I knew that my God was a real God, and his was an idol.”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3199212.stm
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Tom Cotton is a christianist. End Times believers might say that Netanyahu is their seal (converting Jews for Jesus), some also say the hoax of global warming is putting off the inevitable – their gods return to punish us all. Christianists would have no second thoughts or worries about using nuclear weapons. They are dangerous people, Palin is one, and will do what it takes to move their agenda forward, how the world is is the way it is meant to be, after we all burn in hell their god will create Eden, again.
I really wish someone would do a good profile of Cotton. I get that he’s a whackjob for the ages. But I’m curious about how you go from Harvard, to enlisting, to the Senate, and how his whackjobbery developed.
ew: “Now, much as I’d like the Executive to be reined in in other areas, foreign affairs is the area where they’re supposed to act like an Executive. ”
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Wrong. There is nothing in the Constitution differentiating foreign from domestic — the Congress is still in charge.
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Unfortunately US presidents have been extending their executive powers into the treaty area, eschewing (love that word) Senate advice & consent, especially concerning Iraq and Afghanistan, and getting away with it. Iran is an extension of that. But the Congress rules, which they are doing whether we like it or not.
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More on the subject here.
Wrong. The Senate’s role is ‘advise and consent’. They don’t have the power to negotiate for any purpose. That’s reserved to the Executive. Even their power to advise and consent doesn’t let them do what they’re trying to do.
Text of the Logan Act:
So can we just sic Eric Holder on them?
So, if the US is negotiating with Iran about nukes, and I write to the government of Iran thus: “Sirs, please agree to the deal that the US wants, it is a good deal”, then I am a criminal? Gee, another well-written law (does not distinguish between pro-US and anti-US correspondence). No wonder no one pays attention to this shit, it’s stupid.
I think you nailed it…
Ҥ 953. Private correspondence with foreign governments.
Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.”
“WHATEVER HE MAY BE”….
As far as I’m concerned, that pretty well sums it up. It doesn’t matter if you are a Senator, if you conduct correspondence with a foreign government to influence them..you are guilty. PERIOD.
Arrest and charge all of the signers… immediately.
http://www.policybear.com/treason-by-any-other-name/
Obama asked for this.
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After years of Iran is a dire threat to the whole world, the largest state sponsor of terrorism, no daylight between US and Israel, and many many threats of all options on the table (I have a list), Obama in effect said: It’s not so bad, let’s talk and agree on something I can put in my presidential library. And the Congress is understandably still on track one, and the fact that Obama suddenly wants a legacy accomplishment carries no weight.
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Does anyone remember making fun of Bush as “The Decider?” The US is still (nominally) a democracy and so Obama can go fish. He never did have any character, nor stand for anything. He’s been sticking it to Iran for six years, why change now? Let the world pass the US by, as it will.
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(And I’m pro-Iran. Go Persia!)
Obviously this was not private correspondence.
I believe that ‘private correspondence’ in this context means ‘outside official negotiations’.
No “private correspondence” clearly means “private correspondence” that is negotiating under the table such as the Reagan campaign was accused of doing with Iran by Gary Sick and others. An open letter pointing out that Congress has an actual role in ratifying treaties (a terminology in common usage and is even used by Lawfare’s employer the Brooking’s Institution several times on its website), As the letter’s true audience was clearly the Obama administration and the U. S. Public this would be clearly fall under the Senate’s advise function certainly as much if not more than Schumer’s blatant attempts to claim he had the right to prescreen all Bush’s court nominees. I also don’t see any reference to “outside official negotiations” in the text of the law with such a broad interpretation an administration could theoretically jail a political enemy by deliberately opening up negotiations that would be in contravention to business that party is already doing with a foreign state.