Science in the ‘National Interest’: What About Everything Else? [UPDATE]

FieldsOfScience_ImageEditor-FlickrThe Republican-led House Committee on Science, Space and Technology, chaired by Rep. Lamar Smith (TX-21), wants the National Science Foundation’s grants to be evaluated based on the “national interest.”

Bring it, boneheads. By all means let’s try that standard against EVERYTHING on which we spend federal money.

How many television and radio stations, licensing publicly-owned airwaves, are granted licenses under which they are supposed to serve the “public interest, convenience, or necessity”? Because apart from emergency broadcast signal testing, most of them don’t actually do that any longer, suggesting we really need to re-evaluate broadcasters’ licenses. Let’s put the FCC’s licensing under the microscope. If broadcasters aren’t truly serving “national interest” in the manner parallel to a House Science Committee discussion draft — proposed criteria being “economic competitiveness, health and welfare, scientific literacy, partnerships between academia and industry, promotion of scientific progress and national defence” — the least they could do is pay us adequately for a license to abuse our publicly-owned assets as well as our sensibilities. There’s probably something in the defunct Fairness Doctrine about broadcasting and the nation’s interests…unless, of course, “public” does not mean “nation.” Perhaps Rep. Smith believes “national interest” = “business interest,” which opens up a massive can of definition worms.

How about banks and insurance companies? How many of them were in one way or another not merely affected by the financial meltdown of 2008, but direct contributors to the cataclysm because their standards of operation were shoddy — specifically, with regard to subprime mortgages. Why not put their regulation under the same lens: are these financial institutions serving the “nation’s interest”? The financial industry’s business practices and the regulatory framework existing in early 2008 certainly didn’t defend this nation’s economic competitiveness, damaging the ability to obtain credit as liquidity was threatened. Jeepers, wasn’t that the intent of defunct Glass-Steagall Act after the Great Depression, to assure that commercial and investment banking acted in a secure manner consistent with the nation’s interests?

We could go on and on across the breadth of departments and regulatory bodies which either issue funds or licenses, putting them all to the same test. Do they serve the “national interest”?

The problem here isn’t that the NSF in particular isn’t validating grants as to whether they serve the “national interest.” The NSF already uses criteria to evaluate proposal submissions for their alignment with the nation’s aims.

The real problem is that Rep. Lamar Smith is not qualified to lead with regard to assessing the value of science. He’s a lawyer with some business background — he does not have an education strong in science, technology, engineering, and math (STEM). Ditto the other 14 out of 22 total Republican members who are mainly lawyers and accountants, not previously educated or employed in STEM-related fields.

Nor do Rep. Smith and his majority of the overall science committee appear to understand the NSF’s grant-making process. The approximately 40,000 annual research proposals covering non-medical science and engineering are “reviews are carried out by panels of independent scientists, engineers and educators who are experts in the relevant fields of study, and who are selected by the NSF with particular attention to avoiding conflicts of interest.” Only 25% of proposals evaluated receive awards. What will the NSF reviewers do differently than they have already been doing in their assessments?

If the point is to ensure that overall proposal funding is reduced, Rep. Smith should just cut to the chase and say that, because changes to the review process may simply add more bureaucracy without adding any value, and potentially allow gaming of the system if non-STEM criteria and reviewers are eventually added who have no idea as to the value of the proposals they are evaluating.

There’s also the question of funding proposals that may receive financial support from no other venue and may not yield immediate return on investment. Is it in the nation’s interest to fund certain projects that corporations won’t fund? Is it in the nation’s interest to fund proposals that corporations should be funding? And are advances in science in general in the nation’s interest?

Ultimately, this entire proposal to assess science investment for fit with “national interest” is rather flippant: what do Rep. Smith and the rest of the House Science Committee Republicans think socialism is, but a “co-operative management of the economy”? Wouldn’t putting science funding through a “nation’s interest” assessment encourage a more socialistic, co-operative approach to our nation’s investment in science?

Not that this is a problem; we could have used more of that approach in the financial sector, for starters, to prevent debacles like the crash of 2008. But I’m betting Republicans really don’t want government to take a more socialized stance.

7:00 pm 08-NOV-2013 — Update —

Long-time community member Valley Girl brings a little more perspective to this issue, of particular note given her deep background in science as a career.

I’ve been poking around the NSF site trying to find more data. When wiki says 10,000 of 40,000 proposals are funded, I started wondering about this. NSF has grant programs that cover a whole range of things- not just research grants (as normally understood by the scientific community, but NSF pre- and post-doctoral grants to individuals, etc. I don’t know what the funding rates are for their different programs, and I can’t find this information. But, my recollection having served on NSF research grant review panels is that the funding level (% wise) is (or at least was) around 10% research grants being funded. At the time, the odds of getting an NSF research grant were lower than getting a research grant from NIH= National Institutes of Health (=HHS in various tables I looked at). And, the dollar amount of these individual grants was (probably still is) small compared with NIH. Tiny.

Here is one page I found that gives an idea of the $ cost of NSF compared with other agencies

http://www.nsf.gov/statistics/infbrief/nsf13336/

Look at Table 2 for example, which includes research and development. There are two sets of columns, one for current dollars, and one for 2005 equivalent dollars. Following is from first set of columns $ for DOD, HHS (NIH) and NSF, projected 2013 spending. Note that these are “Current $millions”, meaning get out your million $ multiplier.

Total 136,472
DOD 73,725 ~54%
HHS 30,853 ~23%
NSF 5,423 ~4%

NSF is the only agency that supports “ecology” i.e. studies that might track global warming, so I think previous suggestions re: motives are spot on.

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17 replies
  1. P J Evans says:

    The GOP thinks that everything should be done to support business and the military. The idea that science (and math, and engineering, and everything else) has legitimate uses besides making money for the owners never seems to have crossed their teeny little brains.

  2. bell says:

    “national interest” = “business interest”

    that is all one needs to know when they hear about this bs.. ? = public interest…no such thing to these folks!

  3. C says:

    I share your horror at this proposal Rayne. Ultimately it risks injecting even more politics into an overly politicized process and will do nothing to enhance competitiveness. Indeed it will likely hurt it. Real scientific discoveries take place over decades and often do so long before any established business interest. AZT, Viagra, The Internet, and Geosynchronous Orbit (makes GPS and modern communications possible) came about long before we had a commercial use. At best this would make the NSF focus less on long-term research and act more like businesses do focusing on short-term gains and “product development” thus ceeding the real investment to others. This is an awful awful idea.

    Having said that I suspect that this is not being done because he thinks we are falling behind in science, he probably does think that but this won’t help. It’s being done because he is Lamar Smith and Lamar Smith hates Global Warming research. If this was enacted his first and only step would be to demand that all federal funding for global warming research cease. He’d probably want the funds plowed into “clean coal” or missile technology.

  4. P J Evans says:

    @C:
    Back in the mid-70s, they wanted education to be ‘relevant’. Same thing: don’t learn anything for fun, don’t do any research because you want to find something out, just work to make money.

  5. Greg Bean (@GregLBean) says:

    @allan: Tony Abbott, the Australian PM is a product of Rupert Murdoch’s media. He is not a representative of Australians’ desires.

    He is a wannabe but failed priest who still believes so strongly that he discards environmental evidence of man-made environmental issues, he is patriarchal in his outlook and ludicrously dismissive of women’s rights, he is autocratic and has solved the problem of asylum seekers by suppressing any reporting on the many who die trying to seek refuge in Australia, and he is likely seriously pro-surveillance and as a result anti-democracy, and yes, he believes that science is a poor alternative to religious belief and so he has savaged science, as you rightly point out.

    I expect there is much more rational and democratic discussion yet to be slaughtered at the hands of The Mad Monk, Tony Abbott, and his major sponsor, The Devil, Rupert Murdoch.

    BUT, what we in Australia, one of the most secular nations on earth, are seeing, is just a hint of the insanity that is the most zealously religious nation on earth, The USA.

    Rayne, IMHO, if you want to have science as a legitimate discipline you need to shut down the fanatical religious beliefs that are the psychosis of the USA.

    Just to emphasize the point, I was saddened to see Jim Wales challenge the UK to implement a first amendment to its constitution that enshrined the US religious fanaticism.

    “Parliament shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

    I dare politicians of all parties to support me in this. It’s time for the First Amendment in the UK.

    Thank you.

    Jimmy Wales”

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/nov/04/nsa-files-us-rejects-clemency-for-edward-snowden-live

    Why is delusion in the form of religion still to be protected?

    Is it not time for this superstitious mumbo jumbo to be purged from democratic ideals?

  6. bevin says:

    Greg Bean, the arguments that you make are very close to those made, more than 200 years ago, by men, such as Voltaire and Gibbon, who saw religion as the cause of social evils.
    They were, in the end, wrong. When religion went out of the window, nature worship and blind obedience to “natural laws” marched in the door.
    The natural laws in question included “scientific” racism, which is still around in a variety of forms,not least in our colonial treatment of indigenous peoples, and, most notably, the “laws” of the market place, the law that the individual must pursue self interest in order to maximise happiness etc etc.

    I suspect that Mr Abbott worships capitalism, the “free” market, the inevitability of what is and all the other post Enlightenment detritia with considerably more effect than he rehearses the rather quaint rituals of the old Church.

    Get rid of your religious fanatics, by all means, but start with those whose high priest is Murdoch and whose God is greed.

  7. Rayne says:

    @C: *ding-ding-ding!* Climate studies are likely in the bull’s eye. The problem, though, with trying to use the tighter criteria to assess climate studies proposals is that both the DoD and DoS have identified climate change and the inadequate supply of alternative (non-petroleum) energy as risks to national security (see the last couple DoD-QDR and DoS-QDDR).

    Climate studies for national defense, is in the national interest.

    Bring it, Lamar; the worst drought recorded in North America impacted all of Texas. We can have a chat about Americans going hungry due to persistent crop failures, and then perhaps Texans can finally smell your bullshit and vote you a trip home.

    @Greg Bean (@GregLBean): The same First Amendment which protects religious fanaticism also protects those who choose to live with moderate religion or without religion altogether. It’s important to remember that US citizens are increasingly secular; the real problems are that:
    — Voter turnout is too low, with older more religious voters participating at the polls with much higher regularity;
    — The lack of non-church infrastructure under which secular voters might organize prevents the coalescence of a consensus before polls — unlike church goers who meet frequently and are regularly encouraged to conform with a single voting ideology.

    Secular Americans need to use their freedom to organize; depriving others of their rights, particularly those rights that underpinned the formation of this country, will work against them in the big picture.

  8. dakine01 says:

    So now the execrable Lamar Smith gets to screw around with science after having previously screwed around with (screwed up) Homeland Security and Judiciary.

    His wiki says he is a Christian Scientist so presumably that is what makes him think he knows f*ck-all about actual science

  9. Valley Girl says:

    Excellent post, Rayne.

    I’ve been poking around the NSF site trying to find more data. When wiki says 10,000 of 40,000 proposals are funded, I started wondering about this. NSF has grant programs that cover a whole range of things- not just research grants (as normally understood by the scientific community, but NSF pre- and post-doctoral grants to individuals, etc. I don’t know what the funding rates are for their different programs, and I can’t find this information. But, my recollection having served on NSF research grant review panels is that the funding level (% wise) is (or at least was) around 10% research grants being funded. At the time, the odds of getting an NSF research grant were lower than getting a research grant from NIH= National Institutes of Health (=HHS in various tables I looked at). And, the dollar amount of these individual grants was (probably still is) small compared with NIH. Tiny.

    Here is one page I found that gives an idea of the $ cost of NSF compared with other agencies

    http://www.nsf.gov/statistics/infbrief/nsf13336/

    Look at Table 2 for example, which includes research and development. There are two sets of columns, one for current dollars, and one for 2005 equivalent dollars. Following is from first set of columns $ for DOD, HHS (NIH) and NSF, projected 2013 spending. Note that these are “Current $millions”, meaning get out your million $ multiplier.

    Total 136,472
    DOD 73,725 ~54%
    HHS 30,853 ~23%
    NSF 5,423 ~4%

    NSF is the only agency that supports “ecology” i.e. studies that might track global warming, so I think previous suggestions re: motives are spot on.

  10. Rayne says:

    @Valley Girl: Hey VG! Howya doin’? I love your added commentary, especially given your background in science. Hope you don’t mind but I think I’m going to add your comments to the end of the post with attribution, pretty important perspective.

    Thanks much!

  11. Valley Girl says:

    @Rayne:

    Thanks Rayne. I don’t mind you adding my comments at all. I am honored, in fact, that I could add something useful to the discussion.

  12. Valley Girl says:

    p.s.

    Aside- I’ve had both NSF and NIH grants, and also served on NIH review panels. I can’t remember the % of NIH grants funded, and it varied a lot among different sub-fields, but more than 10%, way more for some. In my department, NSF grants were considered “inconsequential” for the sake of advancement along the tenure ladder (even getting tenure at all), b/c the NSF $ amounts were inconsequential compared with NIH $ amounts. I don’t think that was an unusual situation re: other institutions.

    Above is personal aside, except that it does help illustrate that in academia, anyone who does “ecology” type research is at a distinct disadvantage in establishing a stable research career, and being able to pursue such topics, and publish their findings.

  13. klynn says:

    Valley Girl,

    A member of my family has received funding from EPA for Climate Change Research. Additionally, this family member informed me that the EPA has an Ecology group with R & D funding, Ecosystems research, ecological exposure research and regional ecological impacts research. Additionally, US Forest Service has R & D grants and internal R & D relating to ecology as well. Both agencies fund grant research. Another family friend, who is a college professor and know in his field, informed me that NOAA also funds climate change and ecological research as well as NASA and Department of Energy. I do not have the dollar amount as of yet, but the research money on ecology seems to be there in a broad distribution beyond NSF.

  14. Rayne says:

    @klynn: NSF funds research into sustainable energy including renewables; these may not be studied under EPA, US Forest Service, NOAA, NASA, DOE. Additionally, the NSF fellowship program fosters folks who may further similar research. (Former Sec-DOE Steven Chu was an NSF fellow, as was Google’s Sergey Brin; Brin may be the driving force behind Google’s development of alternative energy for Google data farms.)

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