Gitmo Detainee Files Working Thread
Hi folks, HUGE document dump tonight from the New York Times, NPR, Guardian, El Pais and even the Washington Post tagging in. Heck, just about everybody has them; probably the only people who won’t be able to read the files are …. the detainees themselves who, of course, are currently effectively precluded from discussing such things with their lawyers.
At any rate, I am plowing through Charlie Savage’s material at the NYT, and there have been numerous individual filings by the Times tonight. I am going to give the various links in the order they came across the wire tonight and open the floor for discussion:
Official Response From Us Govt.
Overall updated joint NYT/NPR Database
Feel free to link and quote into comments anything from any other sources you feel appropriate. Happy hunting!
Jeff Kaye linked to The Independent’s article at the end of Comments on Big Bad Wolf. And McClatchy has an article, too, for those interested.
The actual cables are being released at WikiLeaks — see column to the left, which lists all files to come by country; those released are in bf (or whatever we call that). And now I see I have to go, b/c they’ve just released 1 of 2 Canadian ones, which means 1 of 2 Khadr brothers.
The funny thing is that Wikileaks tweeted today that they are going offline for a week to “increase server capacity.” This means that the MSM is going to be responsible for everything we hear about this story this week.
And I have to say that the timing on this is delicious.
Probably they don’t want to deal with another round of DNS attacks.
Once again the NYT absolves itself of dealing with Wikileaks by obtaining the documents indirectly. Bunch of cowards.
It looks like their prime directive is to foreground the recidivism angle.
Thanks, bmaz.
The fact that the NYT would pump out 5 articles on this in rapid succession is a clue that this is BIG. Also looks like the NYT does not want to be scooped on anything significant.
Bob in AZ
You might find this interesting:
https://twitter.com/wikileaks/statuses/62365375911829505
It is also useful to check the Times’ reporting by comparing it with the Guardian’s, which is much more straight up. EternalVigilance here notes the Times’ continuing use of euphemisms and its unwillingness to draw obvious conclusions.
The Times, for example, describes this intelligence as “flawed”, but that it supports the Obama administration’s decision to keep Gitmo open.
The Guardian says much of it was “extracted under torture” and is “unreliable”.
The Times leans towards the truth, but remains devout and thus continues to mislead by omission. The Guardian is direct and skeptical, attributes rarely displayed in the US media outside of blog reporting.
Note the vacuum trawler approach to designating every sea creature as a potential terrorist. A sure sign of a potential terrorist is that he wears not a turban but a specific cheap model of Casio digital watch. The CIA and outsourced intel boys hire Yaleys to tell us that? Heaven help us.
Easter Sunday night. Next to Christmas Eve or late evening Thanksgiving Day, when everyone employed is snoring through the aftermath of dinner, this has got to be the best time to release news the media wants no one to read. Fortunately, that’s not true outside the US and this is a big data dump that will be trawled for gems for days.
This is a basic working definition for the latest document release. From the Guardian:
As EW notes on the subsequent thread, the dossiers appear to have been added to repeatedly, with little attempt to synthesize conflicting data into a more accurate picture of their subject. Arguably, that’s true of Gitmo and its interrogation practices generally.
For those with time, it’s important not to use the Times’ analysis of this release without checking it against others. A good first place to start would be the Guardian. For those without time, skip to the Guardian or another int’l source.
From that same Guardian article (there are a series on its front page):
From another Guardian article here:
More than a few detainees were held simply to provide intelligence data on others, not because of their own conduct or even for providing others assistance. In several cases, their imprisonment continued because their jailers felt they were “cocky”: they resisted being beaten, starved, injected, harshly interrogated and abused, and must therefore have something to hide.
Little wonder Mr. Obama wants to look forward not back. As the new gardener in charge of the whole orchard, he doesn’t want to be the guy blamed for stating the obvious – the rotten apples, worms and all, are at the head office, not in the barrels or on the trees. Very few of them are or were held as prisoners at Gitmo.
The US seems exceptionally sensitive to prisoners who retain their sense of self despite years of mistreatment. Take the case of Shaker Aamer, a dual British and Saudi national, whom even Bush’s top ally has wanted released and returned to Britain for years.
His file as released has not been updated for four years. The US has detained him for over nine years. In part, the rationale for detaining him seems based on his lack of “cooperation” with his captors.
That puts the US in the role of Colonel von Luger, the Kommandant of Stalag Luft 3, and Aamer in the role of Capt. Hilts, the role played by the motorcycle riding Steve McQueen in the Great Escape. His leadership and charisma seem to irritate his captors more than any documented anti-American conduct, so it’s off to the Cooler for Aamer:
The US needs a few psychiatrists whose career paths are not dependent on smiles from the Steve Cambone or his successor at the Pentagon. Either that, or the brass needs to watch a few Alfred Hitchcock films. I suggest they start with The Wrong Man (Henry Fonda, Vera Miles, 1956) and then maybe move onto J’Accuse, either the 1919
Abel Gance version or Jose Ferrer’s remake in 1958.
Resistance to abuse does not establish anti-American behavior before that abuse took place or establish an al Qaeda connection. It merely establishes that your prisoner is still a man, and quite possibly the wrong one.
Viz. cultural tendencies related to slaveholding.
The Guardian’s explanation for why its and the Times’ attribution of these materials differ:
The Guardian quotes the Times as saying that its source for these files provided them on condition that they “remain anonymous”. The Times’ policy on conferring anonymity leaves the implication that such a source is non-governmental and therefore needs protection, since some of these materials are market secret, not for disclosure to foreigners.
The Times has previously admitted, however, that it submits such stories to the US government for review prior to publication. That leaves open the possibility that the Times received this tranche, or an additional copy of it, from the USG, thus allowing it to say its source was not WikiLeaks or Julian Assange, whose credibility Bill Keller has gone out of his way to impugn, while scarfing up their materials to increase his circulation.
That Guardian speaker’s self-serving characterization doesn’t square with Carol Rosenberg’s description of events. She says that she and others in WikiLeaks’ distribution chain had been working on stories for a month when they obtained two hours’ notice that the Times and Guardian would break their stories early.
Competitors of the Times (and its collaborator, NPR – both work closely with the USG) and Guardian are not playing catch-up. This is the Times/NPR and the Guardian attempting to manufacture a “scoop” that a dozen global heavy hitters were already deeply engaged in reporting. The two are jumping the gun in an attempt to frame the debate, the Times/NPR almost certainly in ways that support the Obama narrative.
Greg Mitchell recounts how WikiLeaks lifted the embargo it had requested from its distribution chain, which was intended to provide its members an opportunity properly to sift through and synthesize a large amount of contradictory data:
It’s not the Time/NPR and the Guardian’s competitors who were trying to play “catch-up”. Shame on you, Guardian. Sometimes you sound like the Times; you should know better.
These files indicate the US considers Pakistan’s intelligence service a “terrorist organization”, with the US legal consequences that participation in or providing material support to it implies. The list of US intelligence and special forces operatives and contractors, and bankers, now in jeopardy should be as long as the line at your local soup kitchen or the free clinic. From the Guardian:
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The fractured and conflicting loyalties among ISI’s leadership, and its rivalries with its own army and government, has long been known. A formal declaration that the USG ranks the “Inter-Services Intelligence Directorate (ISI) alongside al-Qaida, Hamas and Hezbollah in Lebanon as threats” is remarkable for its candor and quite possibly its stupidity.
Speaking of ISI connection with terrorism, there’s this from the Wikipedia entry on Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh:
If it was just a confusion of names, I doubt if Gen. Ahmed would have had to resign as head of ISI.
By the way, Gen. Mahmud Ahmed was in D.C. on 9/11. In fact, he was meeting with the chairmen of the congressional intelligence committees at the very time the planes struck the twin towers.
NATO strike hits Gaddafi compound. We are not, however, attempting to impose regime change through lethal force, by drones or manned aircraft. We are merely attempting to act as a megaphone, to give the rebels and American corporations a greater voice in Libya’s government.
Meanwhile, we are again taking our eye off the ball in Afghanistan, ensuring that that war, too, will be never ending. From Reuters, via France24:
My earlier reference to the Great Escape was meant to be metaphorical, and I see I directed it at the wrong prison.
This takes place at the start of the spring fighting season. Let’s keep all those faux Taliban figures tied up in Gitmo, at excruciating financial and political cost, so that we needn’t admit what fools we were. How I miss Art Buchwald.
Memory refresher.
In Gitmo Opinion, Two Versions of Reality
“When Judge Henry Kennedy Jr. ordered the release of a Guantánamo Bay detainee last spring, the case appeared to be a routine setback for an Obama administration that has lost a string of such cases.
“But there turns out to be nothing ordinary about the habeas case brought by Uthman Abdul Rahim Mohammed Uthman, a Yemeni held without charges for nearly eight years. Uthman, accused by two U.S. administrations of being an al-Qaida fighter and bodyguard for Osama bin Laden, is among 48 detainees the Obama administration has deemed too dangerous to release but “not feasible for prosecution.”
“A day after his March 16 order was filed on the court’s electronic docket, Kennedy’s opinion vanished. Weeks later, a new ruling appeared in its place. While it reached the same conclusion, eight pages of material had been removed, including key passages in which Kennedy dismantled the government’s case against Uthman.”
LINK.
Beat me to it, faster! :-)
I’m glad Linzer brought this up in conjuction to the leak.
Here is is a ProPublica
If you haven’t already, be sure to check out Greenwald, too, harpie. And Good Moanin’ to you