Anthrax Attack Used to Justify the Iraq War
Glenn Greenwald notes this detail from the British Iraq inquiry.
Yesterday, the British Ambassador to the U.S. in 2002 and 2003, Sir Christopher Meyer (who favored the war), testified before the investigative tribunal and said this:
Meyer said attitudes towards Iraq were influenced to an extent not appreciated by him at the time by the anthrax scare in the US soon after 9/11. US senators and others were sent anthrax spores in the post, a crime that led to the death of five people, prompting policymakers to claim links to Saddam Hussein. . . .
On 9/11 Condoleezza Rice, then the US national security adviser, told Meyer she was in “no doubt: it was an al-Qaida operation” . . . It seemed that Paul Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld’s deputy, argued for retaliation to include Iraq, Meyer said. . . .
But the anthrax scare had “steamed up” policy makers in Bush’s administration and helped swing attitudes against Saddam, who the administration believed had been the last person to use anthrax.
I’ve written many times before about how the anthrax attack played at least as large of a role as the 9/11 attack itself, if not larger, in creating the general climate of fear that prevailed for years in the U.S. and specifically how the anthrax episode was exploited by leading media and political figures to gin up intense hostility towards Iraq (a few others have argued the same). That’s why it’s so striking how we’ve collectively flushed this terrorist attack down the memory hole as though it doesn’t exist.
As I pointed out earlier this month, the attack and the FBI’s investigation of it is not entirely forgotten. Chuck Grassley asked Robert Mueller about the investigation this spring. But Mueller invented a totally bullshit answer to dismiss the possibility of investigating the FBI’s investigation.
Grassley then goes on to ask about the National Academy of Sciences review of the FBI’s scientific analysis of the FBI’s anthrax case. After Mueller reviews that, Grassley asks whether the FBI would be willing to have an independent review of its “detective work” in the case. Mueller basically says, “no.”
Grassley: Are you opposed to an independent review of the FBI’s detective work, in addition to a review of the scientific evidence?
Mueller: Because of the importance of science to this particular case, investigative steps were often taken to address leads developed by newly evolved science. In addition, the significance of information or evidence we acquired often took on new or enhanced meaning as scientific advances were made. Consequently, a review of the scientific aspect of this case would be the logical first step. There is also ongoing criminal and civil litigation concerning the Amerithrax investigation and information derived therefrom, and an independent review of the FBI’s “detective work” at this time could adversely affect those proceedings.
What an astoundingly bullshit answer!
First, obviously the “detective work” needs to be investigated, if only to explain why the FBI ignored evidence pointing to Bruce Ivins and invented a case against Hatfill. Second, if ongoing litigation (including criminal?!?!?) wouldn’t be hindered by the scientific review, why would it be hindered by a review of the “detective work”? What Muller is more likely saying is just what he admitted with regards to Hatfill: until any civil suits are settled, the FBI doesn’t want to admit to the full extent of its incompetence.
As we have discussed at length, there are reasons to doubt the FBI’s conclusions that Bruce Ivins acted alone (more here, here, here, here, here, here, and here). Indeed, all the FBI has claimed it proved with its nifty new scientific analysis (and Mueller states this) is that Ivins made the strain used in the attack (I’ll leave it to the scientists to address Mueller’s certainty on that front). They certainly have not proven that Ivins mailed the anthrax. Which means, quite simply, they haven’t solved the case.
But Robert Mueller doesn’t want to show the FBI’s work.
Now maybe the FBI realizes they haven’t solved this case, and that’s why they can’t start investigating their own detective work. But if that’s the case, don’t you think they ought to tell the American people that there’s an American bioterrorist running around on the loose?
The FBI investigation ought to be reviewed because the bioterrorist may well be wandering free, and because the FBI showed real incompetence several times during its investigation.
But Glenn points out another reason this investigation ought to be reviewed: because the attack played a key role in drumming up the attack on Iraq.
I presume that the anthrax attack has been flushed down the memory hole for the same reason that anyone doubting the official 9/11 hagiography is mocked as a conspiracy nutcase: the implications of discovering that Americans were killed (or allowed to die) merely to manipulate domestic political opinion would be cataclysmic for the nation.
I’m wondering if the anthrax attacks aren’t being competently investigated because they were done by someone who was paid by the then-government to carry them out.
It would certainly be another reason to charge some people with crimes, whether war or otherwise.
IMO, the anthrax attacks were meant to instill fear and anger in Americans, not simply to injure or kill certain individuals.
The outlet for that fear and anger was meant to be war against Iraq.
For me, the finger of suspicion points toward the Bush inner circle and elements of the CIA.
Thank GOD there was nothing to tie the bush twins with the death of a photog, who happened to catch them in less then desirable circumstances,who just happened to get caught up in the spore distribution.
Thanks for your undying search for the real reality ( Truth).
Just how much did dick’s and george’s personal wealth increase from the 2000 SCOTUS appointment to our final financial melt down in 2008 ?
You made me google:
This lady (chat site) thinks Bush is personally responsible for anthrax mailings, out of vengeance and to intimidate others (e.g., outing Valerie Plame):
First anthrax death = Robert Stevens, Sun photo editor — I’m confused if he took the embarrassing photo of Jenna Bush that was printed in the National Enquirer, or if he unluckily opened a letter intended for National Enquirer photo editor, in same St. Petersburg FL building — ? Letter and envelope apparently not recovered (?)
OT but still important news
In yet another case of government deception about the war on ….
Trouble in Germany.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/nov/27/germany-afghanistan
The German government has apparently been asked by the US to increase it’s troop strength in Afghanistan.
“the reason for dispatching several thousand people to Afghanistan, which has to be based on trust in the political and military leadership is crumbling.”
There are now Afghan policy difficulties in Germany. Having to do both with the mission in general, and the coverup of civilian deaths in an air strike called by German officers in which the death toll has been reported as 142.
“The state prosecutor has started an investigation and if it is decided that the airstrike broke international law it could be tried in a German court as a war crime.”
The former defense minister, army chief of staff, and the deputy defense minister have all resigned as a result of the exposed misinformation campaign concerning the air strike.Video of the strike was recently leaked
to Bild.
I posted OT here on the Afghanistan related turmoil in Germany. I failed to notice this diary on the topic at the Seminal. http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/16417
A much more complete description and analysis than my comment, I recommend you go and read it. If we want to go our own way in Afghanistan, all by ourselves, we may soon have that opportunity.
HT to fflambeau
The psychology of not telling the truth in order to protect the status quo or to further a political agenda has a long American tradition.
Emptywheel is right, this is an amazingly BS answer. The point is, the FBI does the bidding of the gov’t. If facts run counter to current policy then facts be damned and full speed ahead with obfuscation! (I mean,”investigation”)
I think the anthrax business was initiated because of some big pushback on the Iraq War drums. This is one of those stories that when fully told many years from now will expose many awful truths.
Meanwhile, babble is the language of bureacratic delay.
According to this web site,
http://911review.org/Wiki/AnthraxAttacks.shtml
the Patriot Act was the motivation. I refused to pledge allegiance after they passed it. Haven’t since.
Inside of a good cop / bad cop institution, Daschle might well have been part of the scheme to help institute draconian anti civil rights measures and help lead this country into war.
I don’t trust most of the power merchants in this coordinated anti democratic kabuki performance.
Need to insist on sunlight reaching into every crevice of our government, our security and future depends on it!
Personal Paranoia: The anthrax attacks were carried out by someone who works or used to work at a bio warfare location that the government does not wish to acknowledge exists.
That someone has been dealt with, thus the lack of repeat attacks.
Boxturtle (Or it’s the tylenol poisoner, who was also never caught)
The FBI and Senator Grassley have a history concerning the operations of the FBI crime labs.
See this news story from 1997 concerning the crime labs, and their work product.
http://www.albionmonitor.com/bari/fbilab.html
See this testimony to the Senate Judiciary Subcomittee on Administrative Oversight and the Courts; ” Hearings regarding problems with the FBI lab”.
http://www.nacdl.org/TESTIFY/test0017.htm
Well, I don’t tend to follow the anthrax threads all that much, but it’s a cold day and I’m procrastinating, so I hit the EW Anthrax Timeline thinking that I might find a list of **who** was sent anthrax. (I kind of recall Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews, but no ‘conservative’ pundits.)
Well, that timeline doesn’t have a complete list of recipients, although those named are: Judy-Judy-Judy Miller of NYT, and then also two Dem Senators: Daschle and Leahy.
However, this timeline says that Miller received FAKE anthrax.
So of the electeds, it appears that the ‘liberals’ were targeted.
But then, I clicked to a couple other EW Timelines, and here’s what I came up with by combining several items of interest from a few of the EW Timelines.
Frankly, I find it rather spooky and extremely creepy, and IMVHO it lends credence to Glenn Greenwald’s suspicions:
[Disappearing WH Emails Timeline]: 2001, unknown date: Susan Ralston prints off Rove email in response to Enron inquiry, gives that email to Alberto Gonzales, presumably alerting him to Rove’s use of RNC servers for official emails.
[The Ghorbanifar Meetings Timeline]: September 9. 2001: Condi demands an investigation into a leak that ended up in NYT story; the leak would lead to AIPAC investigation
[The Ghorbanifar Meetings Timeline]: Before November 7, 2001: Ledeen calls Rodman; Rodman says no to Rome meeting; but then Ledeen calls Hadley, claims Iranians want to defect, so then Hadley calls Wolfowitz, who instructs Rodman to approve the meeting
[Anthrax Timeline]: September 18, 2001: Less lethal “media” anthrax letters postmarked
[Anthrax Timeline]: October 2, 2001: …Judy Miller’s Germs published…
[Anthrax Timeline]: October 9, 2001: Ivins works late for 15 minutes; Daschle and Leahy letters postmarked
[Anthrax Timeline]: October 12, 2001: Judy Miller gets fake anthrax letter
[Anthrax Timeline]: October 15, 2001: Daschle letter opened; Bush presses FBI to look into Middle Eastern links to anthrax
[Anthrax Timeline]: October 18, 2001: John McCain links anthrax attack to Iraq and Phase II of war on terror
[The Ghorbanifar Meetings Timeline]: July 4, 2002: Ledeen contacts Sembler about further meetings with Ghobanifar in Italy
[The Ghorbanifar Meetings Timeline]: July 13, 2002: Wolfowitz assistant tells Rodman Tenet supported contacts; Charles Allen to coordinate
[The Ghorbanifar Meetings Timeline]: July 15, 16, 2002: CIA cables on meeting
[The Ghorbanifar Meetings Timeline]: July 18, 2002: Sembler alerts Marc Grossman that Ledeen contacted him on July 4 regarding further meetings in Rome in August
[The Ghorbanifar Meetings Timeline]: July 19, 2002: Rodman action memo (citing multi-million dollar business deals) in response to Ledeen memo recommends ongoing contact with CIA coordination
[The Ghorbanifar Meetings Timeline]: July 25, 2002: Feith reviews Rodman action memo
[The Ghorbanifar Meetings Timeline]: July 25, 2002: CIA cable reflecting Powell’s lack of approval for contacts
[Anthrax Timeline]: Eight months later…
July 2002: MZM receives White House contract for “threat mail technology insertion”
One way of reading this combined listing (and I’ve left out plenty, and hope to be forgiven for taking up this much space!), is that someone wanted to keep the FBI distracted and busy chasing down , in Miller’s case, bogus threats. Within about six weeks of 9-11. (Excuse my pontificating, but that’s just flat-out evil.)
Other readers will interpret this list differently.
What I find creepy is that someone was trying to keep the FBI busy while meeting with Ghorbanifar and his Iranian pals in Italy.
I also find it creepy that it appears the anthrax might have been used by Cheney to argue for his office technology, installed by Mitchell Wade’s very own MZM, their first-ever federal contract IIRC. And wasn’t Mitchell Wade of MZM the old school buddy of #3 at CIA Dusty Foggo?! (Well, #3 when Porter Goss elevated him and pissed off some CIA folks so that they quite the agency.)
I leave it to greater minds than mine to interpret what all this means, but I find it damn suspicious and creepy.
I have no idea what the hell it means.
I hope Mueller knows.
As for Grassley… sheesh. What a tool.
My reaction that this whole thing is creepy stems in part from the fact that it appears that
Sept 9, 2001 – Condi Rice demanded an investigation (presumably, by the FBI) into a leak published in the NYT. Condi’s request kicked off the AIPAC investigation (which appears to have never gone anywhere, and IIRC Larry Franklin is now out of jail.
Sept 11, 2001 – The events of 9-11.
Sept 18, 2001 – ‘less lethal’ anthrax letters posted at a time when Enron, built on the smoke and mirrors of energy deregulation and unregulated trading, and whose revenues had increased 1,750% in the 1990s** was imploding although few seemed to realize it at the time. It would file for bankruptcy Dec. 2, 2001 – right about the time that meetings between Ghorbanifar and DoD representatives (including Larry Franklin) were being set up for Rome, Italy.
So the FBI was already incredibly busy (presumably), with everyone probably being pulled off white collar fraud (i.e., Enron, housing bubble, unregulated derivatives…) and put on ‘terrorism’.
And the WH email servers weren’t preserving info properly.
And Cheney, Libby, and heaven only knows who else were probably in the loop about those meetings in Italy. And then, the following July doing something to the OVP email system (or ‘mail system’?) to no doubt keep the FBI from monitoring their actions.
Man, I kind of figure that anyone who actually knows what happened with all this would never post a comment.
And meanwhile, those of us in the peanut gallery look at these ‘tea leaves’ and can’t help but scratch our heads.
‘Cause it sure looks very, very weird.
**”Other People’s Money”, Nomi Prins, p. 160
I haven’t seen this on the timelines but it seems it should be there somewhere:
September 10, 2001: Donald Rumsfeld gives a press conference where he says $2.3 trillion is missing from Pentagon budget.
youtube has CBS News report http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xU4GdHLUHwU that corresponds to this print version: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/01/29/eveningnews/main325985.shtml
For those of us gnashing our teeth at the endless countless dollars for war with none for healthcare, this snip from the end of the report has special resonance:
Donald Rumsfeld Declares War on Pentagon Day Before 9/11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlnQTcLHaMM
Silly me, I didn’t check your link and it was the same thing. Sorry.
I’m not scratching my head and it seemed obvious at the time that it was some kind of insider work. That is the only and obvious logical perspective after researching the drug war. This whole thing is a criminal conspiracy. Why is it so hard for reporters to look at it that way?
If you haven’t read “From the Wilderness” before, I highly recommend it. Here are two anthrax stories,
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/10_26_01_anthraxrarey.html
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/02_14_02_microbio.html
And here is a timeline on 9/11, a MUST READ,
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/02_11_02_lucy.html
EW’s anthrax timeline has Judy Miller’s Germs (book) published October 2, 2001, but left off that Judy had also cowritten a New York Times article on US violating germ warfare treaty that was published September 4, 2001 http://www.nytimes.com/2001/09/04/international/04GERM.html
(From History Commons great anthrax timeline at http://www.historycommons.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=anthraxattacks )
From the entry on the 9/4/01 NYTimes article:
Maybe terrifying Judy made her writing more poignant?
Also in that timeline is that White House officials were taking Cipro (anti anthrax treatment) on the evening of September 11, and that reporters all over were being told to take Cipro before the anthrax attakcs. See Richard Cohen entry in the History Commons timeline:
Anthrax was in the air…
Another good website for the anthrax evidence and case studies is UCLA’s Disease Detectives — here’s their page for the letters: http://www.ph.ucla.edu/epi/Bioter/detect/antdetect_letters.html
They also have a timeline
Any idea who they were?
I took that phrase directly out of the History Commons quote:
“A number of White House officials begin taking Cipro the evening of September 11, 2001,” which in the original links to:
There are also links in the original that you could follow.* I wish I knew what happened to the Judicial Watch lawsuit, but I don’t. Anybody?
*Oops, no you can’t. It’s interesting, all the links in that passage above are blocked in the original, but not others above and below it.
still googling… It must be this case:
Long list of links on that page, starting with this June 2002 press release:
Like I said, a lot of links between the bottom and the top, there’s probably something interesting there if anyone wants to go diving
I’ve just written a couple of diaries specifically about the disinformation campaign to associate Iraq with the Anthrax attacks:
Here is Part I Cheerleading for War http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/14497;
and Part II The Last of the Red-Hand Gang: http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/16301.
(Both cross-posted at Daily Kos)
Lengthy but worth it, I hope. I may eventually post Part III if I ever get any reaction to the first two!
Wasn’t one of the types of WMD said to have been in Iraqi hands a kind of mobile bioweapons lab? Wasn’t it supposed to be optimized for spore production? It seemed rather reasonable, at the time: “Hey, why not?” But weren’t they later shown to have been fabrications of a tame Iraqi informant? At any rate, Iraqis and weaponized spores were in the air, so to speak, back then.
Your leap of faith that Bruce Ivins was involved at all in the anthrax attacks – your question being merely whether he acted alone – is an assumption that may only be based on the unsupported, unchallenged, self-serving conclusion by the Bush FBI that Ivins was responsible for the attacks. It’s easy to win an argument with a dead man – convenient, too.
I suppose that is why 14 microbiologists more or less mysteriously ended up suspiciously dead?
If you have read the Amerithrax coverage here over the years, then it would be readily apparent that there is no conclusion Ivins was involved. There is circumstantial evidence which could support that inference, or it may be coincidence; we simply do not know. However, the FBI conclusion is that Ivins did it and did it alone; what has consistently been pointed out here is that that argument does not hold up – if Ivins was involved, it would appear very unlikely he acted alone.
Off topic, except it’s an FBI question — have you seen the ACLU press release about a lawsuit they filed against FBI agents on behalf of an American citizen who was “arrested [in Kenya], secretly imprisoned in inhumane conditions and subjected to harsh interrogations by U.S. officials over 30 times in three different countries before ultimately being released four months later without charge.”
http://www.commondreams.org/newswire/2009/11/10-4
It sounds like the usual American rendition and torture stories… except it’s not the CIA, it’s the FBI. And there are some other details I found surprising, like he was illegally rendered to Somalia (Somalia?), and that his American interrogators threatened him “with being sent to Israel (Israel?), where, the interrogators said, the Israelis would ‘make him disappear.'” Also the later date — 2006-2007 — seemed odd to me, but this was familiar:
My bold, it brings us back to this posting, how “facts” were conjured to order. Ever since I read that the CIA’s code name for Cheney was Edgar, as in the ventriloquist Edgar Bergen… anybody could be his dummy.
I don’t know what “anthrax attack” you’re talking about, Marcy.
Dana Perino told me there were no terrorist attacks on America during Bush’s term as president.
I think it was the one following those imaginary airplanes everyone thought hit those buildings in NY and DC. /s
Oh, do you mean those imaginary airplanes that nobody could have predicted would’ve been used to attack buildings in the U.S.? Tsk tsk.
Not only Dana, nearly EVERY reporter has repeated that lie countless times. Lets see if we can find ones who haven’t been. I bet even the most liberal of them have been repeating it.
I’m just hoping there is a scientist/FBI type following this like a bloodhound (like Marcy), and will report when the facts are beyond discussion.
I linked to the UCLA anthrax detectives website earlier — they might be who you’re looking for. Specifically, quoting from a 2002 BBC article posted there:
When Bush touted anthrax as a casus belli during the 2002 SOTU, he was employing the tactic of planting “information” in the press and following up with an official pronouncement based on press reports.
We all know the punch line to this joke…
Plus, a bid for Rummy’s favorite enterprise…
Got anthrax? Paging Lt. Col. “I really hate A-rabs and don’t mind framing them” Zack… White courtesy electron microscope, please… (h/t plunger)
How about one more lie for the record Mr. Bush…
So Cheney’s false flag attack on “go fuck yourself” Leahy and friends purposefully passes over Judy Kneepads. Why?
She needed the cover of having been attacked in order for her writing to be taken seriously.
Just re-hashing the knowns here…
Pardon the detour, but for those still interested in The Family/C Street, here’s a transcript of the 11/24/09 “Fresh AIr” interview of Jeff Sharlet which covers some dark areas.
Because the first attack was in Florida, we could gossip that brother Jeb was involved.
We could further speculate that right-wing Cuban Americans were involved.
But so far no plausible story can explain why
A
s were involved .
Speculate
And, of course, aei, the american enterprise, members of which may have been closely involved in the
Fake “Iraq is seeking nuclear
Dirt from Niger” episode.
The closer these matters prove to
Be to each other
The more disturbing.
Did you remember Rudy “911” Giuliani was involved in the aftermath of the Anthrax murders?
BIO·ONE™ WILL REMEDIATE THE FIRST ANTHRAX-CONTAMINATED BUILDING
Nice of Rudy to supervise the cleanup of the whole building, especially the floor where the nasty pictures that could make life uncomfortable for certain political figures were kept…
September 19, 2001: Possible Hoax Anthrax Letter Received at Office of Florida Tabloid
So somebody goes around contaminating the building full of embarrassing archives, then sends a decoy packed with symbolic goodies and whammo, photo assets neutralized, objective complete. And just for souvenirs,
Elvis photo destroyed, defendant says
Rudy’s company Sabre also got contracts to lead the cleanup of Capitol Hill offices and U.S. Postal Service plants in Washington, D.C., and Hamilton, N.J. No wonder Rudy wanted Dick as a running mate in ’08.
And I thought they just wanted to bug Democratic offices in congress. Clean up operations sure are useful.
doesn’t anyone else think it strange that Cheney and his staff would be given the anti-anthrax drug cipro weeks before the first anthrax attack? precautions aside, it almost seems to cry out foreknowledge. i dunno, maybe it’s just me.
My thinking is when the FBI ignores something like this, it is because they have been told to by higher ups. Apparently that is a common practice in the drug war.
OT….
The Report is in the mail, last minute redactions.
Where the fuck is the OPR Report.
End of the month accountability push…
I know some of my questions are foolish to the experts here. Thanks for your patience with my ignorance.
If Bruce Ivins, a WHITE anglo-saxon American working for the U.S. government, did the anthrax letters…why did they say on them: “DEATH TO ISRAEL”, “ALLAH IS GREAT”, & “DEATH TO AMERICA”? How come no one ever asks that?
Are we supposed to just ignore that???
On September 5, Ms. Clarke–lured back into government service by pal Mary Matalin on Vice President Dick Cheney’s staff, from a high-paying post as Manhattan office director for the venerable public relations firm of Hill & Knowlton–the former PR chief to Senator John McCain and one-time George Bush (the elder) staffer would divulge to foreign media that the United States, via the Pentagon and the shadowy Defense Cooperative Threat Reduction Program, would begin producing a new and potent strain of anthrax bacteria, and that such plans had been in the works since 1997. The source of the anthrax was to be from Russian stock, and, according to Ms. Clarke, would be used “purely for defensive measures.”
The new strain of anthrax, engineered by Russian sources, Clarke purported, would be used to test the effectiveness of a newly-developed vaccine in the United States. “We have a vaccine that works against a known anthrax strain. What we want to do is make sure we are prepared for any surprises, for anything that might happen that might be a threat,” she said.
Clarke presented this information on September 4, 2001, via a Department of Defense news briefing; when asked directly as to whether the United States, through any agency, was developing or producing anthrax bacilli, her response, repeatedly, was, “no.”
http://www.sianews.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=13
There’s no telling what the FBI did/did not ignore, as they are being quite firm about not having their investigation investigated. Even Leahy seems unable to pry information out of them. For all we know, those phrases could be in Osama’s own handwriting. Or Dick Cheney’s.
And the anthrax mailed was from a known strain, originally from the United States.
BushCo violated several treaties and lied about it. If we were actually doing biowarfare work outside the treaty, I’d expect BushCo to lie. And as has been pointed out here repeatedly, the entire investigation reeks of a coverup.
Boxturtle (Wonder how much money Bayer made off of that sudden burst of Cipro sales)
Tori Clarke presented this information on September 4, 2001, via a Department of Defense news briefing; when asked directly as to whether the United States, through any agency, was developing or producing anthrax bacilli, her response, repeatedly, was, “no.”
http://www.sianews.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=13
How about, after 7 years, they “caught” the anthrax mailer Bruce Ivins right before Bush/Cheney got out of office. What timing. And he was dead.
Greenwald: why did ABC say they had sources that said the anthrax mailings were from Iraq/Saddam? Also, the latest from the government is Bruce Ivins did it. So, how does ABC resolve this discrepancy?
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2007/04/09/abc_anthrax/index.html
I would add Judicial Watch’s stymied questions (#77) to Greenwald’s ongoing and still unanswered questions:
Remember that the narrative about events at Detrick mentioned “the lyophilizer in the hall”? No reason anyone should remember that I said at the time that that did not seem like a reasonable explanation of how anyone could make a spore prep in which spores were not clumped and yet showed no signs of having been ground.
In a natural foods store I noticed on the label of a bottle of spirulina made at a plant in Hawaii that the algal cells are dried by a “patented, proprietary” process described as low-temperature spray-drying. Now, *that* is how I would describe the only way I’ve been able to come up with of how to make the lethal spore prep that was mailed. So, a good candidate technique *is* out there.
And it isn’t “the lyophilizer in the hall”. Nothing in this whole story smells like a guy with a grudge in a lab.
I’m not familiar with your lyophilizing reference, and I haven’t read the whole article, but does this beginning to an October 2003 Vanity Fair article posted on the UCLA website sound promising?:
…
OT but important,dated today,Nov.28,2009:
U.S. Still Running Secret Prison in Afghanistan
Source: New York Times
An American military detention camp in Afghanistan is still holding inmates for sometimes weeks at a time and without access to the International Committee of the Red Cross, according to human rights researchers and former detainees held at the site on the Bagram Air Base.
The site consists of individual windowless concrete cells, each lighted by a single light bulb glowing 24 hours a day, where detainees said that their only contact with another human being was at twice-daily interrogation sessions.
The jail’s operation highlights a tension between President Obama’s goal to improve detention conditions that had drawn condemnation under the Bush administration and his desire to give military commanders leeway to operate. In this case, that means isolating certain prisoners for a period of time so interrogators can extract information or flush out confederates.
While Mr. Obama signed an order to eliminate so-called black sites run by the Central Intelligence Agency in January, that order did not apply to this jail, which is run by military Special Operations forces.
Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/29/world/asia/29bagram.h…
or agree to the interrogators’ allegations.
(See my comment #29 above.)
Way to get the “fact” you want on record.
Did they dust the envelopes of anthrax for Cheney’s prints?
Obama will make sure to put investigating the FBI detective work on his to-do list. /s
As some have almost certainly noted here (and definitely have elsewhere), there is a very straightforward reason why the anthrax attacks have been memory-holed.
That “terrorist” is identically linked with being Arab or Muslim was widely taken as axiomatic before 9/11, witness the widespread assertions following the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing. Laurie Mylroie exemplified the absolute certainty — regardless of any and all evidence — that the bombing of the Murrah building must have been a Arab terrorist attack. Since 9/11, this widespread axiom has been adopted nearly universally in the US.
BUT, we know conclusively that there was no Arab or Muslim component — or foreign of any kind — to the anthrax attacks. That being the case, it is highly likely that the anthrax attacks were committed by some American right-winger. If true that would be heretical in 21st Century America. Pure-blooded Americans are the world’s most virtuous people. So sayeth the Lords — Beck, Coulter, Kyl, Coburn, Cheney, Rice, Bush, Malkin, and on and on.
Cynthia Kouril is upstairs!
Living Up to Our Constitution — Part III
Thanks for the heads up! Cynthia’s stuff is always a must-read for me.
Bob in AZ
I don’t know if anyone is following the Chilcott Commission hearings in London but the testimony of ex-Ambassador Sir Christopher Meyer has been fascinating.
Little noticed in the American media is that Cheney was wanting to immunize every American for Anthrax, even if the untested vaccine killed 20 million Americans!
That Karl Rove told Meyer that they couldn’t postpone the invasion because if it crept into 2003 it would “be too close to the Presidential elections”.
That the US military was told “not to enforce law and order. It wasn’t their job”
That Rumsfeld didn’t trust the intelligence coming out of the CIA and with Cheney set up a parallel intelligence system.
Good link, thanks — actually I think this is the passage EW was referring to at the beginning of her post above, quoting from Glenn Greenwald.
(I wonder what kind of connection there is between anthrax and smallpox? Same vaccination for both? Same company producing the vaccinations? Dunno…)
God I love the google!
What a guy!
More, from Jeremy Scahill, 2005:
Good Googling! Funny how all this sounds years after the fact. Still looking for answers ‘R us.
no, not even close.
1. Smallpox is caused by a virus, anthrax by a spore-forming bacterium. The former has been completely eliminated from the human population, the latter can typically be treated using 1980’s era antibiotics.
2. Despite the undeniable, unequivocally evil nature of the Pharmaceutical industry Death Eaters (Hi Marcy!), there’s simply no money to be made recreating an 18th century prohylactic vaccine (the term vaccine arose from Jenner’s use of cowpox to vaccinate against the related smallpox virus).
Uh… From the Scahill article:
And from wikipedia:
(10-year program… it must still be ongoing?)
uh, nice stripping of context.
I was addressing the parenthetical question in post 60: “Same vaccination for both? Same company producing the vaccinations?”
The answer is still “no” to both questions.
Further, there’s no patent life left in cipro, and any competent first year graduate student could make a smallpox vaccine. No fortunes to be made there.
No stripping of context intended. I was simply addressing one point of your comment. I absolutely appreciate your other information, it’s simply your conclusion that there was no money to be made that I thought needed a wider look. And if you think about it, Project Bioshield is totally consistent with the Bush pattern of spending crazy money on crazy fear, while stealing funding and manpower away from real needs, tying up and coopting Congress all the while.
I think you could be like Hauer in #63, the HHS head who tried to talk science sense into Cheney and Libby (“Germ Boy”) so they wouldn’t order everyone in America to be vaccinated for smallpox. If you read to the end of Scahill’s article, Hauer gets sacked and replaced at HHS by a guy with the same kind of nonqualifications that Heckuva Job Brownie brought to FEMA. That’s the context I see. You’re reality-based, but those guys were someplace else, like Ron Suskind reported in 2004:
Regards
Ex British Ambassador to Uzbekistan (and sacked torture whistleblower) Craig Murray is commenting on the UK inquiry on his own blog: http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/. He’s pretty critical of the setup:
I knew to check Craig Murray because of his recent article, How a Torture Protest Killed a Career:
@56
Has anybody seen Jon Meacham’s piece for Newsweek yet,about Dick Cheney for Prez in 2012?
And you thought the Mayans were nuts?
UPI.com
Why Dick Cheney Should Run in 2012 – 10 hours ago
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An investigation into the scientific components of this case (i.e., whether the FBI conclusions that Ivins made the material, the origins of the strains, etc.) is underway:
http://blogs.sciencemag.org/scienceinsider/2009/05/fbi-anthrax-inv.html
The outcome is pretty likely to be that the official story is within the realm of possibility. I predict no new groud will be broken, and no closeted skeletons will be disturbed by the esteemed Academy. Scientists tend to write their conclusions very conservatively, which favors the status quo here.
I always thought it was complete bullshit that Ivins killed himself with fistfuls of Tylenol #3, as the official line describes. That kind of death takes weeks, or the consumption rapid consumption of over a hundred tablets (I remember calculating that something like 127 pills would be required for 90% lethality from the opiates in this formulation). I don’t see the purported suicide as plausible at all, and thus the whole story is in question in my mind.
Does anyone know if there was an Ivins autopsy report released?
There was no autopsy. Supposedly; that is the official story anyway.
No autopsy was done. Body quickly cremated, too.
sorry for the double posting, I don’t know how to edit… if a mod will please delete the first one?
@66
“People aren’t tortured for no reason. They’re tortured in order to extract some information or to get them to admit to things, and normally the reason you torture people is to get them to admit to things that aren’t actually true. They were having to confess to membership in al-Qaeda, to being at training camps in Afghanistan, personally meeting Osama bin Laden.
There was an overwhelming body of evidence that actually people from all over the world were being taken by the CIA to Uzbekistan specifically in order to be tortured.”
Here ia an excellent ,thoughful essay from Online Journal,salient to the issues at hand:
Before Obama escalates the Afghan war, he must tell us who we are fighting
By Peter Chamberlin
Who is “al Qaida,” that we must continue killing and destroying entire nations to eliminate them?
Nov 27, 2009, 00:25
Thanks… I thought this article by Chris Hedges on us v Taliban was really excellent too:
which takes me back to Craig Murray:
The article I keep going back to is from the Onion as part of their Holy Fucking Shit/Attack on America coverage of 9/11:
8 years and counting… by the way, where IS Congress on this?
I am never going to edit again. You fix one thing and your paragraphs collapse. You fix your paragraphs and you get a double posting. arrrrrgh
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Hey thanks mod! You fixed it :-)