The CIA Won’t Give Abu Zubaydah His Own Diaries
When Abu Zubaydah had his Combat Status Review Tribunal hearing on March 27, 2007, the President of the tribunal admitted that the government could not or would not produce key volumes of Abu Zubaydah’s diaries in preparation for the hearing.
From the evidence request I received, again, from your Personal Representative, you believe the statements in the Summary of Evidence document that you provided that–excuse me, that you were provided are a misrepresentation of what you actually wrote in your diary. I reviewed the Summary of Evidence document and noted that there were at least three items listed which specifically cited your diary as the source of the information. Each of these items referenced operational plans and actions which were associated with enemy forces of particular interest to the Tribunal. It would be helpful for the Tribunal to review the source document of these statements and hear your representation of what you wrote in your diary. I therefore found your diary request relevant. On February 22nd, I ordered the production of your diary. As of today, the government has produced portions of your diary. These have been provided to your Personal Representative to prepare for the Tribunal’s hearing today. I understand your statements provided today or the evidence previously provided will refer and provide us some of those diary entries for us to consider. I do need to address one additional matter regarding your diary. There are two volumes of your diary in U.S. Government custody: volumes five and six. The government has made a diligent effort to produce those volumes for us today but–; however, they have not been located. So they are not available for us during this hearing. I therefore find that the volumes five and six are not available for us during this hearing. Given this situation, the Tribunal will consider your statements if you wish to make any, of what you believe the diary entries represent.
According to Abu Zubaydah, one thing included in the parts of the diary not turned over includes a condemnation of 9/11 and of the killing of innocent children, which violates the tenets of Islam.
I can’t remember exactly what you talk about in my diary. I know exactly what I wrote. — writ wrote [asks for correction from Linguist] –One part I do remember, I write against eleven September.
[snip]
They killing of our child so we not care to killing their child; it’s not allowed in Islam. I have it exactly, if you read my diary nice, you will understand my idea nice.
Since two years and one Presidential election have passed since that CSRT, and since we’ve been talking about evidence the CIA destroyed, I thought I’d check to see whether those diary sections still haven’t been turned over. Not only haven’t they been turned over, but neither have key parts of AZ’s diary that would describe the torture he underwent at the hands of the CIA’s contractors (as well as some drawings, the description of which has been redacted).
In January, AZ’s lawyers moved to get a range of evidence from the government, include volumes 5 and 6 (described above), but also volumes 7 though 9, written while in CIA custody.
Long after his 1992 [head] injury, once Petitioner had recovered the ability to speak and write, he began to keep a diary. It is his memory. Without it, he is lost.
To date, Petitioner has completed eleven volumes of his diary, each written in a slender, bound notebook. He currently is writing volume 12. He wrote the first six volumes before his March 2002 arrest. Volumes 7 through 9 were drafted while Petitioner was in CIA custody. Volumes 10 and 11 were completed in DoD custody at Guatanamo, after September 2006; only these last two volumes, written after Petitioner was transferred from CIA to DoD custody, were given to counsel in late 2008 by Petitioner because they were in his possession. At the present time, Petitioner has access to volumes 1 – 4 in his cell, and the Government and CIA are wrongfully denying Petitioner access to volumes 5 – 9, which, arguably, are most relevant to issues that are likely to arise before this Court in connection with Petitioner’s defense. Volumes 5 and 6 were drafted before Petitioner’s arrest and date most closely to the time of his arrest. They are critically important to show what Petitioner was doing during this time frame and contain exculpatory evidence. For example, volumes 7 – 9 were drafted while petitioner was in CIA custody and recount his torture and damaging exculpatory admissions made by Petitioner’s torturers and other CIA officials. [my emphasis]
The filing goes on to note that:
- English translations of his diary were quoted in his CSRT; AZ maintains the translations are inaccurate, but the government has not turned over those translations
- CIA operatives interrogated AZ about his diaries
- The government had allowed AZ to keep his diaries–until he got put in Gitmo (for what looks like a second time), when they were taken away from him
- The military has no objection to giving AZ his diaries, but CIA has refused to turn them over
The whole filing is worth reading for the Kafkaesque situation it describes, in which AZ, whose memory is described to be completely dysfunctional, has been refused the sole record he has of the events of which he has been accused, even though at least three of those accusations come directly from his diary.
And of course, as with the torture tapes, the CIA refuses to make available the evidence of what they did to AZ.
Major CYA by the CIA.
I’m starting a poll right now: any bets that the CIA destroyed his diary in, say, November 2005?
Oh no, I would never think such a thing, I’m sure they are lying around CIA somewhere… They are the Central Intelligence Agency after all. They are very competent people, very organized, they keep tracks of lots and lots of information in order to distill it all down into a coherent narrative. They know how to put their finger on any item at a moments notice… Or not.
Incompetent or criminal?
By the way EW, it’s tenet, not tenant. Makes the former CIA chief’s name a bit ironic, doesn’t it? ; )
Shoot. That was dumb. Thanks.
Nah, that was just a homonym-induced slip of the fingers, happens to me all the time ; ) It still kills me though that someone as unprincipled as George has the last name of Tenet.
If the CIA has them, they are buried in a vault so low, not even Panetta would be allowed to access it.
My guess is that they are destroyed, like the tapes. Destruction of records pertaining to CIA operations is nothing new. The classic case study of this would be the MKULTRA files. The following is from a memo by Members of the [President Clinton’s] Advisory Committee on Human Radiation Experiments to Advisory Committee Staff (6/27/94):
In other words, the MKULTRA program would have gone unknown and unnoticed, if some of the files hadn’t escaped destruction because of a quirk of the filing system. Note, too, that the “the practice of MKULTRA at the time was ‘to maintain no records of the planning and approval of test programs.’” It is reasonable to assume that the same SOP pertains in the case of the torture program.
At a 1977 hearing before the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, Senator Kennedy noted of the destruction of the MKULTRA documents:
Note that, even when there was clear evidence — and Helms would testify under oath regarding this — that the Director of the CIA himself had destroyed documents, nothing was really done about it. Now, that was over 30 years ago, and this is a different time… or is it?
For those interested in the history of this subject, there was a NY Times article in Sept. 1977 that told a slightly different story, placing responsibility of the destruction of the MKULTRA files on Dr. Sidney Gottlieb, the head of Technical Services Division, CIA (quoted from blog post by Michael Otterman):
This wasn’t the first time that Helms was implicated in the destruction of relevant documents. A similar thing happened over the scandal of CIA domestic spying on antiwar activists. This is from an interview Helms did with David Frost in 1978 (as posted in “adapted” form at the CIA’s website):
Thanks for the detailed comment on the CIA’s tendency to destroy inconvenient records. I trust you didn’t take my original comment seriously : )
However, I am serious when I keep stressing the incompetence v. willful destruction of evidence choice here. I think this needs to be pointed out repeatedly. Either the CIA is incompetent or they are corrupt/criminal. This of course begs the question of why we tolerate their existence. They do a lousy job and they break the law on a whim. Our country would be better served without them.
You and I both hold the view that the CIA is a lawless organization, but it doesn’t hurt to point out to the CIA’s defenders that if the CIA isn’t lawless, then it is certainly incompetent. Either way, it is an agency that serves no useful purpose and therefore should be disbanded.
Not taken seriously. It was the springboard for me to kind of relook up this material, and then I just put it out there b/c I think it’s relevant.
But here is one serious thought (not heavy, but serious): I don’t think it makes sense to divide our characterization of the CIA into either criminal or incompetent. It’s both of these, some of the time, i.e., not all of the time. The criminality stems from its service to a hegemonic foreign policy and the fact they have been allowed to operate in secret, bringing out all the worst traits in human nature, and anathema to good organizational standards.
The latter is one major reason they are often inept: responsibility is not delegated, and accountability isn’t structured as in a normal institution (operating under decent organizational norms). As a result, corruption in all its sundry forms has crept in over the decades, culminating in the CIA contractors fiasco. We have yet, as this scandal unfolds, to touch upon the smarmy and violent milieu out of which Mitchell and Jessen arose.
The final problem is structural, as the CIA has two primary tasks: intelligence analysis and covert operations. The two are not compatible, and the former has suffered at the hands of the latter over the years, especially financially. To some degree, the same problems have infected other U.S. intelligence agencies, although I really only have the NSA in mind as I type this.
So, the CIA is neither criminal or inept. But it has engaged in multiple, terrible crimes, and has shown tremendous incompetence on numerous occasions. We must go after each, respectively. I do think, though, that the CIA is an organizational nightmare, and that its secret function, in particular covert action, is incompatible with an open society or a democracy.
there
fixed it for ya
dis whole bookie thing ain’t as easy as it looks, huh ???
btw, the American Bookie’s Union says you dint pay yer dues this week …
Can I buy a different time slot?
How about December 19, 2007?
I don’t disagree that that fire is suspicious. But I bet Dick had plenty of other things to destroy, aside from Zubaydah’s diaries.
Yeah, I hear you, although that does look like a much bigger fire than I thought; I’d never seen that Rolling Stone photo.
For all we know the diary/ies were dropped into the ocean somewhere between one of the black sites, and goodness knows when…
CYA ???
that’s CYA ???
jebus
the cia really is incompetent
I’ve come up with better bullshit that this while I was under the influence of MANY mind altering substances
maybe the cia should hire some pot heads to think up some better lies
Cover Your Ass
And From Raw Story:
Military attorney: Waterboarding is ‘tip of the iceberg’
I know WHY they’re covering their ass
I just figure that the cia should be able to do a better job than this
I’m really disappointed by the quality of the bullshit emanating from langly virgina
I’m paying these schmucks for this ???
to semi-quote Krusty the Klown:
Keystone Kops have nothing on the CIA!
yeah, what can ya say
copyrights expire
and the repuglitards are free to immitate the three stooges, the cia can rip off the keystone cops
but stealing Wile E Coyote’s act ???
that’s going too far
langley, we’ve had another problem …
It is in the same place as Pat Tillman’s diary.
Bingo
I’m with you, EW!
If you are going to destroy the Torture Tapes, then why not also destroy the Torture Diaries that go with them?
Somewhere, there are at LEAST one final copy or original of this stuff.
Cheney’s vault, I’d guess. Along with the complicit docs that show Dem’s were in on it (ain’t that arguement lookin a bit slim lately).
But I honestly believe there’s a copy of all docs, on a drive, somewhere . . . . the CIA, and other institutions of largesse, just can’t ever seem to destroy ALL the evidence . . . they keep it all for leverage. Who has it, is the question. And that person who has it, needs it badly. Roads lead to Cheney . . . . lots, and lots of roads, lead to Darth.
Rock on Mz. Wheeler . . . . bring these fucks to the light of our day.
I’m reading up on my CIA and culture of failure, and also, about the good germans who were a-OK with Nazi solutions.
So when I read the above narrative about the Tribunal, it’s pretty easy to make the connection to past miscarriages of justice and the wholesale warehousing of people painted and perceived as less than human.
Makes me very sad and angry that we are the transgressors who have lost our humanity.
Hey Phil (Graham):
You’d better copy your own diaries and put that copy in a safe place before they come for you. It sure looks like the truth (those who know it, and write it down) is the enemy of the CIA.
For those who have not yet seen it, Ray McGovern acknowledged this weekend that there are actually two CIAs (a good one, and a bad one):
The Video is here.
Dude, time to change the tin foil
Bob Graham = anal note taking Democratic Senator
phil gramm = repuglitarded deregulation guru senator
keep it straight
but since you mention it, I wouldn’t mind a peek at phil gramm’s diaries too
an don’t interpret this correction as an endorsement
Correction appreciated. Endorsement not sought.
It’s a tough crowd in here . . . loveable, and precise, but tough.
Loosen them up with cocktails, a smoke or two, and they’re up for the good fight, though . . .
Good folks . . .*G*
I think we need to see Wendy Gramm’s diaries too.
I believe that all this criminality will lead to Cheney in the end.
I wonder how many diaries fit in a man size safe?
Just sayin…
Yes. But PNAC is the other part . . . and then, there’s their water carriers . . . all guilty, guilty, and guilty.
Thanks again, EW!
There need to be consequences for misbehavior. Pits of lawlessness within our own government need to be thoroughly cleaned out and set right. Otherwise, they remain festering cancers.
Bob in HI
I don’t think that they will end up “destroyed”
I do think that there has been a lotta time for forgery.
I, for one, would love to read the Report of Survey that they should have done on this property, which apparently was lost, destroyed, or otherwise improperly disposed of. Something to FOIA – they have to (if they are to account for lost property) do a Report of Survey.
This handy guide sets out, in thumbnail, what an investigating officer is supposed to do when handed the dreaded “Report of Survey” forms and appointment as “Survey Officer”:
I kinda doubt that any such report of survey was ever done and, if it was, it was a total whitewash.
Speaking as someone who did – and hated doing – reports of survey, all I can say is that I hope the next guy who blows up a tank engine, loses/sells his field gear, or breaks something expensive has the balls to remind the survey officer trying to charge him for breaking/losing that property that, under the Obama Administration, we look forward and not backward, and do not take retribution but rather make sure things work better in the future.
Yeah, but does that apply to the CIA? Because that appears to be the entity at issue.
I’m sure that CIA has an analogous set of regulations – if it’s a government department and it has property for which it must account, it has some form of report of survey. Ask Dusty Foggo and his buying stuff for CIA – he made piles of graft out of being the Executive Director, and that was … property acquisition and management for CIA.
After the destroyed AZ’s body and mind then they forge diary’s that say its all hunky dory. Combine that with the fire in Cheney’s office and viola.
Darrell Issa is asking the FBI to probe Pelosi’s charges that the CIA lied.
But Michael Gerson prefers his own reality: “Democrats’ Assault on the CIA”…..
and in HONOR of modo
I didn’t copy and paste that from DailyKos. a friend told me that, and I typed the words all by my lil self
(duckin & runnin)
EW, this is hugely important! From a psychological point of view. Because they did psychological assessments on this man. They used those assessments for several things, to conclude that (a)he had a very strong character and would not break, thereby justifying the need for torture, that (b)torture would not do him long term harm, and also (c)to find his weak points for interrogation under torture. Since the diaries may form much of the raw data psychologists used as the basis of their reports, the absence of this data then calls into question a number of statements made in the Aug 1 2002 memos, which authorized the torture. This galls and irks me no end! Because without the raw data, whether of the tapes or the diaries, you have no evidence to base alternative hypotheses on – in order to assess the psych reports which they used as the basis of the torture memo which particularly addressed his very torture.
Now, I am not asserting in any way that even if one had the diaries, they would support torture. NO, I’m interested in how that information was usedor rather misused in drawing certain psych assessments.
Thanks for this important information. It certainly does not assist the psychologists who initiated the “experiments” which are war crimes, both as torture and as “experimenting” on a prisoner without his consent.
I realize there are also other important reasons this information is invaluable. I’m just addressing the psych value as necessary raw data from which reports would have been/should have been drawn.
There! Got all that off my chest!
TherP;
You are knocking them out of the ‘park’, today.
Another home run!
I’m on my feet, cheering.
DW
TheraP
You think that pisses you off?
You and all the other psych people should read this description of AZ’s medical state from last year.
It’s not clear how much damage they did during torture (in which case AZ’s medical record would be proof of damage done) and how much damage he had coming in (in which case, it’d be proof he was not fit to be waterboarded, as if anyone is). But in either case, it’s utterly appalling.
Kafkaesque … beyond belief.
This nation has lost its way, in every human aspect that matters …
Thank you, EW. I’ll look closely at this right after dinner.
O/T, or back to the bailout, etc. If only!
Wednesday, May 20, 2009 08:37 PDT
A watchdog to growl at Wall Street
“On Tuesday night, reports Bloomberg, all the parties mentioned above [including Volcker and Elizabeth Warren, who have been largely ignored] met together over a dinner hosted by the Treasury Department “to discuss proposals to change financial regulations.”
. . .
“. . . [a regulatory commission which is supposedly being considered] , as has been widely noted, is Elizabeth Warren’s brain-child. She first outlined it two years ago in an article for Democracy Journal
. . .
” . . . the obvious choice for the founding head of a future Financial Products Safety Commission would of course be Elizabeth Warren. Imagine if she’d been in place five or six years ago, when the mortgage lending industry started to go nuts.”
http://www.salon.com/tech/htww….._watchdog/
More OT – Bush’s PBGC director takes the fifth instead of answering Congressional questions
He’s reported a $33.5B deficit, too, affecting 44 million pensioners. And, remarkably enough, he’s ” being investigated by Congress over his relationships with JPMorgan Chase & Co., Goldman Sachs Group Inc. and other firms while he led the Pension Benefit Guaranty Corp. during the Bush administration.”
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/….._YpTysrpx4
Those names {JPMorgan Chase, Goldman Sachs) seem to crop up just about everywhere in this extended mess, don’t they?
Only when there’s clear evidence of conflicts of interest, you mean.
Touche! The master touch.
What’s PBGC?
Pension Benefit Guaranty Corp
Good nterview! Makes me wish I had a tee vee service.
Ex-CIA agent: When did questioning the CIA become anti-American?
BY DAVID EDWARDS AND MURIEL KANE Published: May 20, 2009 Updated 5 hours ago
“Former CIA special agent and radio host Jack Rice finds the Republicans’ outrage unconvincing. He told MSNBC’s Keith Olbermann on Tuesday, “What’s extraordinary here is the idea that if you would ever question the CIA, now all of a sudden somehow it’s anti-American.”
. . .
“Rice has no illusions about the CIA’s vulnerability to pressure during the Bush administration. “Anybody who believes that an administration can’t push the Agency to do something is really missing the point,” he told Olbermann. “The fact that they can push the Agency and say, ‘This is what I’m looking for’ … will drive them to do certain things that may or may not be true — and that’s a big part of the problem that we’re facing right now.”’
http://rawstory.com/08/news/20…..-mistakes/
Well, they were right about one thing. Everything changed on 9/11. Including the right to a fair and speedy trial, the presumption of innocence until proven guilty, the ability of the accused to see evidence presented against him…
the right not to be used in human experimentation, abrogation of the prohibition on buying and selling humans … just a few things gone by the bye. And apparently Obama officials are touting the fact that it’s not like the hearsay rule was ever any kind of American value.
Things have changed so much after 911 that apparently that we are just now discovering that no one ever really wanted the 6th amendment anyway.
Reidem & Weep, Part 8,758
Ah, “The Human Race” by Willie Maykit and Betty Whoant.
Sometimes it’s hard to recognize this country anymore. Bob in HI, can you turn that music up? My sanity’s on its last legs, too. You got any Pagan Babies?
Is this a Law Firm? *wink*
Bob in HI
Huh? I thought Reidem & Weep (Mary @ 41} were the publishers of “The Human Race” by Maykit and Whoant (DWBartoo @ 43). No?
Following your directions now to the Beamer brothers (bmaz will probably think we’re talking about cars). Thnx.
bmaz might get confused and think we are talking about drinking Beamish over the toobz. But I’m sure he’ll figure it out.
Bob in HI
(Sorry for the OT, folks, I need to lighten up somethimes)
Less OT – along with Reid saying we can’t let The Terrorists come to this country, Mueller has now testified that they are too dangerous to allow into US prisons, even max security prisons.
In part he’s worred abut fundraising and radicalizing. Good to know that keeping them at GITMO won’t enable terrorist fundraising and won’t radicalize any Muslims who think that is a pissy thing to do. More reassuring still – his response to what to do is a big I dunno.
This all seems to me like the basic Dem/Reid (aka Reiddem & Weep, Part 8,757) approach on the detainees is going to be to push through the notso improved, not much different MCAs, force Obama to push hard for fast and dirty commissions that will hand out some quickie death sentences and keep the likes of KSM there at GITMO until the killings are done for the highest profiles. Meanwhile, for the guys who shouldn’t have been there anyway, they’ll pay off like blackmail victims to get Afghanistan and if it looks like habeas is going to apply there too for “ship ins” they’ll find a fast and dirty way to pawn them off on Karzai for $$$$$$$$$.
There is nothing else indicative of a “plan.” And Obama is really good at the finger steepling, but you can’t fish or cut bait with your fingertips touching and nothing but a serious, thoughtful look to get you to the endpoint. The longer he waits to get to truthpoint, the worse it is going to be.
Bailouts and bonuses, Bush and Cheney, cont’d.
U.S. Army paid bonuses to KBR despite deaths
“WASHINGTON (Reuters) – The U.S. Army paid $83.4 million in bonuses to KBR Inc., its biggest contractor in Iraq, despite accusations its wiring work has been linked to the electrocution of at least four soldiers and one contractor, a congressional investigative panel said on Wednesday.”
“The Senate Democratic Policy Committee said it also determined that more than half of the bonuses — $48.9 million — were awarded after the Defense Department sounded an alarm in early 2007 about what the panel described as pervasive problems with KBR.
. . .
“The Army declined to attend the hearing but submitted a written statement in which it said bonuses to KBR had been halted pending a review.”
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/200…..ibw–
http://tinyurl.com/rbrqwt
Yeah, I saw that interview, too. Maybe we should just re-name the CIA as the “Department of Preconceived Notions.”
My sanity is being preserved by listening to Hawaiian music– Presently Kapono Beamer, with Ho’okena, and the Cazimero Brothers on the play list, too.
Bob in HI
Hey, I found the Brothers Cazimero over at youtube, but need help with Kapono Beamer.
I could do better than that
an that’s just a few of the ones that include the word “bullshit”
(the crystal bong is still cloudy, but in a different way, this batch ain’t as funny as the last batch)
editor’s note to self, always remember to capitalize Bullshit-O-Rama
Plame and the O-team:
Obama Lawyers Urge Rejection of Leak Suit Against Cheney, Rove
By Greg Stohr
“May 20 (Bloomberg) — The Obama administration urged the U.S. Supreme Court not to revive a lawsuit accusing former Vice President Dick Cheney and other officials in the George W. Bush White House of illegally revealing the identity of a CIA agent.
“U.S. Solicitor General Elena Kagan, the government’s top courtroom lawyer, told the justices in a legal filing today that a federal appeals court was right to dismiss the suit by former CIA operative Valerie Plame.”
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/…..refer=home
EW any chance you can track down Kagan’s legal filing for us to enjoy? I can’t wait to see how the Obama administration justifies keeping members of the executive branch out of the reach of the law…
It’s on CREW’s site. Here’s the filing–haven’t read it yet.
Thanks! Having a busy day today, will look at it tomorrow, I hope!
“U.S. Solicitor General Elena Kagan, the government’s top courtroom lawyer, told the justices in a legal filing today that a federal appeals court was right to dismiss the suit by former CIA operative Valerie Plame.”
And she’s being touted for the Supremes? Oh, please.
Bob in HI
A kangaroo court would be more civilized and perhaps even more fair. US Justice is telling the man he has no defense that is useable due to it’s secret nature? “It’s lost”, (evidence) as an excuse has caused a lot of people on trial in the US justice system to have their cases thrown out immediately. I wonder why this court would consider so many insults to the rule of law?
Nevermind. Fatster explickied.
Quoth Fatster & 48,
Just mosey on over to KINE105 or Mountain Apple.
You may not get Keola or Kapono Beamer, but you’ll find much like them.
BTW, the Beamer brothers have rather different styles.
Mountain Apple has a sample of Kapono Beamer. And don’t forget to look for the immortal IZ on youtube at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ltAGuuru7Q and elsewhere. Forget Judy Garland.
Good stuff for wounded psyches.
Bob in HI
Never fear, Obama the Savior will fix it all up. /s
Spencer Ackerman, upstairs!
A New CIA Log Of Torture Communications
They won’t give him the dairies but they will let him watch American Idol or Survivor. That’s all many, if not most Americans, care about.
here’s the next repuglitarded hissy fit aborning
1 in 7 Freed Detainees Rejoins Fight, Report Found
fookin Obama released this guy LAST YEAR, an he returned to the battlefield
watch it happen …
Man…this destruction of evidence is just crazymaking.
Especially combined with false outrage on the part of the torture-supporters, and this sense–just heard a journalist throw this out matter-of-factly on KCRW’s To the Point the other day–that Dems have no stomach for a truth commission (and the Pelosi kerfufflers know it full well).
WTF?!? We’re talking about enormously important history here. It just seems impossible that so much of this critical information could’ve just been destroyed. And exponentially more impossible that HAYDEN and this JOSE ROGRIGUEZ guy (just as a start) could walk away unscathed from such criminal ratf**kery, not against Democrats (as with Watergate), but against ‘democracy’ per se…a self-governing populace’s right to know, EVEN IN HINDSIGHT, the historical record of what the hell went on in our names and on our dimes.
It’s so infuriating! And add in Monday’s 5-4 Supreme Court ruling shielding these villains from lawsuits…that is, unless plaintiffs
[rimshot]
It’s just unbearable…what would be a working person’s version of “going Galt”? I’m…..’going Kadzinsky’ comes to mind but christ…that’s a little much…well, now Dylan’s ‘You Aint Going Nowhere’ has popped into my head. …Sigh… Good song, actually…and the lyric
even has some relevance to the topic at hand. Odd.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..01753.html>
This is really a problem with the courts, not the CIA. The government will not present key evidence that may be exculpatory. So the courts should simply dismiss the charges and order the prisoners freed–in the US, if need be.
We have to be ready to pay the price of Bushist hubris. We played fast and loose with our own laws, and now we have to accept that we cannot prosecute detainees that might have been convictable if we’d followed our own rules. I’m more afraid of the collapse of law in this country than I am of a few Arabs and Uighurs whose names and faces are known. If and when one of them commits provable crimes, try him and punish him. Otherwise, forget it.