Leahy to Bybee: Why Won’t a Federal Judge Testify before Senate Judiciary Committee?

Keep in mind, as you watch Pat Leahy complain that Jay Bybee declined, through his lawyer, to testify before the Senate Judiciary Committee what Sheldon Whitehouse said about yesterday’s hearing: it was preparation for the release of the Office of Public Responsibility report on Bybee, Yoo, and Bradbury, due out in the next several weeks. 

Since he has declined through his lawyers to testify before the Committee, I assume he has no exonerating information to provide. I wish he would testify before us to help complete the record, and [inaudible] it is appropriate because in this case he has done anything but maintain silence about it. He has made a number of statements that sort of give his side, I’d like to hear it all. He’s talked to friends and employees, he’s communicated to the press, he’s communicated through his lawyers to the Justice Department regarding the Office of Professional Responsibility’s review of his actions, while as a government employee in the Office of Legal Counsel. Apparently the only people he has not explained his actions to are the people who granted him a lifetime appointment to the Federal Bench, and the American people through their elected representatives in the Senate.  

Whitehouse and Leahy have both promised follow-up hearings after the report comes out; it’s likely that Bybee will get himself another invitation after the report–one with some legal force behind it.

But, as Scott Horton suggests, Leahy’s invitation and Bybee’s refusal to show establishes–even before the OPR report comes out–that Bybee doesn’t have anything to say for himself, that a sitting Judge and federal employee won’t explain his role in authorizing torture to the Committee that oversees the Judiciary (and approved his nomination). 

This invite, too, was about laying a foundation for what comes next. 

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    • Leen says:

      That’s what I heard.

      Leahy “regrets” in WaPo
      “defended” in NYT

      “which Jay Bybee to we rely upon”

      Leahy and Whitehouse could almost make a believer out of me

  1. radiofreewill says:

    He might not want to testify until After he gets a deal to roll on Addington and Yoo and the rest of the Cabal.

    That is, if he can even get a deal…

    • BoxTurtle says:

      First rat gets the best deal!

      But is he willing to say “We got the conclusion we were ordered to provide”? If not, then the best deal he can hope for is “Resign, and we won’t impeach you. Further prosecution TBD”.

      Boxturtle (Personally, I’d rather offer the deal to ByBee’s personal secretary)

  2. AZ Matt says:

    What is the Judge Bybee hiding and why can’t he defend his actions? Cuz Dick Cheney said so! (I’m just making that up sort of…)

  3. rosalind says:

    OT: fm WAPO “Prosecutors to Question Rove on U.S. Attorney Firings” tomorrow.

    Are “interviews” under oath?

    story

  4. MadDog says:

    EW, a couple threads ago, you mentioned wrt to the CIA’s turndown of Cheney’s CIA Torture Results memo declassification attempt:

    Oh, now that’s delicious. Dick can’t have it bc the ACLU asked first.

    To add to your deliciousness delight, I bring you the actual CIA Turndown letter via Greg Sargent:

    …Your facsimile of 21 April 2009 referred one document to this agency responding to the referenced Executive Order 12958 Mandatory Declassification Review request. I have enclosed a copy of your correspondence at Tab A.

    As you are aware, a request for Mandatory Declassification Review is governed by Executive Order 12958, as amended, which was signed and executed by the President on March 25, 2003. Under section 3.5.(a)(3) of that Executive Order, a document is excluded from Mandatory Declassification Review if that document contains information that is the subject of pending litigation…

    (My Bold)

    Junya’s revenge?

    Or since it was really PapaDick who was probably the culprit who actually made that EO amendment happen, one could say that:

    “Cheney Cheney’d himself!”

    Shorter PapaDick: “Fook me?!!!”

    • phred says:

      Bwahahaha… That is delicious indeed. Thanks for that MadDog. I needed a good chuckle this afternoon ; )

  5. AZ Matt says:

    From the WaPo:

    Prosecutors to Question Rove on U.S. Attorney Firings
    By Carrie Johnson
    Washington Post Staff Writer
    Thursday, May 14, 2009; 3:09 PM

    Former top White House official Karl Rove will be interviewed tomorrow as part of an ongoing criminal investigation into the firing of U.S. attorneys during the Bush administration, according to two sources familiar with the appointment.

  6. fatster says:

    Big gotcha:

    05.14.09 — 3:35PM // link | recommend (1)
    BUBBLING
    Sen. Whitehouse (D-RI) was just interviewed on MSNBC and he talked about the new reports that Vice President Cheney tried to get the Iraq WMD investigators — after the invasion — to waterboard an Iraqi intelligence official to try to pump him for information about Saddam’s alleged alliance with al Qaida. Whitehouse noted that this would dramatically change the legal terms of the question since even the notorious OLC memos allow practices like waterboarding to avoid imminent threats to the US. But waterboarding this Iraqi guy about Saddam’s relationship with al Qaida — after the invasion — would have been to get political information, proof of the purported but then largely discredited rationale for the war.”
    . . . . . . . . .
    –Josh Marshall

    talkingpointsmemo.com

    • emptywheel says:

      That, and the memos say only torture if he’s not compliant. Wilkerson’s is the second allegation that Cheney ordered torture after someone was deemed compliant (and that’s before we trace the Abu Zubaydah waterboard 83 order back to Cheney).

  7. phred says:

    the new reports that Vice President Cheney tried to get the Iraq WMD investigators — after the invasion — to waterboard an Iraqi intelligence official to try to pump him for information about Saddam’s alleged alliance with al Qaida

    fatster, thanks for this. I just checked over at TPM, no links… what new report about waterboarding an Iraqi intelligence official? I haven’t heard of this before. That would be quite the bombshell. Do you know what reports are being referred to here?

      • phred says:

        Thanks Petro. TPM is referring to an MSNBC interview which is referring to a Daily Beast article. I put a link to it on the thread upstairs…

    • fatster says:

      My apologies to you, phred. I signed off after posting that and only just got back on. Otherwise, I would certainly have been scrambling around trying to find a good link for you. Be embarrassed that Petrocelli, Marcy, and others had to do that when it should have been me.

      • phred says:

        LOL : ) No worries there fatster — I really appreciate the tip in the first place! ‘Course next time make sure you’re not such a slacker, ok? ; )

  8. scribe says:

    You know, and Judge Bybee surely will know, that West Law Publishing has devoted an entire key number to the principle of law underlying what Leahy says: Evidence 75.

    A quote from one of my favorite cases, addressing this topic, may help. To set the scene a woman, the plaintiff, sued complaining of being a pedestrial injured by a car driven by the defendant. She repeatedly failed to see the defendant’s doctor for an examination, used by insurance companies to see if you;’re really hurt or not. The court:

    In our opiion, evidence indicating a plaintiff seeking to recover for injuries involved in an accident had refused, without justifiable cause, to submit to a physical examination is admissible. A jury may infer that such refusal indicates that plaintiff has something to hide, a consciousness of the weakness of his cause. …. Here, defendant’s unsuccessful attempts to obtain a physical examination extended over a period of almost two years – a period during which, plantiff claimed at the trial, she was suffering continuously from the effects of the accident. The Court did not err in admitting [the insurance adjuster’s] testimony.

    A friend who defended personal injury cases used to threaten to ask for a jury charge using that language, in the event the plaintiff was balking at seeing the defense doctor.

    Or, for that matter, we can call up an old chestnut from Ed Meese’s assault on Miranda, written by a True Conservative Himself, Charles Krauthammer, back during Reagan days:

    It is disgraceful that just after a parade of ex-Reagan aides piously invoke the Fifth Amendment, President Reagan’s attorney general is preparing an assault on the Miranda rules. It is a disgrace because Miranda is quite properly known as the poor man’s Fifth. Oliver North – and Claus Von Bulow and Anthony Salerno – do not need Miranda. They know that they have the right to remain silent, the right to counsel, etc. They do not need to be warned that what they say may be used against them. It is the indigent and the ignorant who need the Miranda warning. Ed Meese is promising a crusade to see [that the poor, ignorant and unrepresented can no longer have those same rights] …

    Of course, back then Republicans at least pretended to have a sense of shame or had the self-awareness to see that what they were doing might be seen as less than wholly sinless.

    Meese, of course, was [in]famous as Reagan’s AG for positing that, since confession is good for the soul, Miranda and its confession-excluding result was bad for the defendants because it didn’t help them unburden themselves of their guilt. Or something similarly incoherent.

    Or another Ed Meese spectacular, highlighting his … um … something smelly:

    Compare that with the behavior of Attorney General Edwin Meese 3d, who returned the other day from a trip to Latin America to find himself embroiled – not guilty, of course, not quite indictable – in still another dubious episode at least as questionable as anything charged against Larry Speakes.

    This time, the news was that Mr. Meese’s wife, Ursula, had had a job arranged for her by a real estate developer who was trying to lease office space to Mr. Meese’s Department of Justice. A foundation set up by the developer paid her salary.

    This disclosure followed those about Mr. Meese’s disputed involvements with the Wedtech Corporation and with an abortive Middle East pipeline scheme. A special counsel looking into these matters has said he has found no evidence sufficient to indict the Attorney General – hardly a ringing endorsement of his ethical sensitivity and not even a guarantee that some sort of ‘’smoking gun” won’t turn up later.

    Whether or not the highest ranking law enforcement officer of the nation ought to be indicted is one thing; whether he is sufficiently the model of probity that his office requires is another thing; and still a third is whether he can, under the cloud of suspicion and mistrust he has brought upon himself, lead the Department of Justice and maintain its morale as effectively as he should.

    At least back in those olden days, we got special counsels actually investigating even minor improprieties by Republicans (and we hadn’t even graduated to torture, yet). And Republicans – like Meese – even resigned without being indicted first.

    What of those litigants appearing in your courtroom, Judge Bybee, who need to be able to believe that you, as the judge of their case, will not be unfairly biased? What are they to think when the legal test in their case is whether something “shocks the judicial conscience”, when you have so far shown yourself to have no conscience at all? How can they believe that the justice system is not irretrievably skewed against them and in favor of you and your Republican buddies?

  9. freepatriot says:

    JEBUS ew;

    do yo actually WRITE all this stuff ???

    or do you jes conjuring it up with spells an potions or something ???

    if it’s option A, I’m beginning to feel sorry for your poor abused keyboard

    if it’s option B, could ya put in a word about this pain in my right shoulder ???

    and if it’s option B, I got some evtra newt eyes and bat wings, if ya need them …

  10. bobschacht says:

    Syntax cleanup at the checkout counter, please:
    “Whitehouse and Leahy have both promises… ” promised, maybe?

    (Hey, I’m off to a slow start this morning!)

    Bob in HI

  11. oldtree says:

    Greg Sargent says Cheney’s response is that he will appeal.

    and somehow, we cling to the hope that Leahy and Whitehouse, Feingold, Wyden, and a few more, will actually open an investigation with SP. Fitz seems perfect, is he?

  12. ezdidit says:

    What comes next? Subpoenas? Arrest warrants? …or, as Olbermann has declared, “w t f ?”

  13. freepatriot says:

    why wont they testify ???

    maybe it’s because they raped and murdered the children of Kalid sheik Mohammad, and they got video of the crimes

    I just clipped this from the comments at wapo

    A few things to remember.

    (1) John Yoo wrote that it would be legal to crush a child’s testicles in front of his father to get the father to talk

    (2) KSM’s 7- and 9-year-old sons were captured before he was, and are now nowhere to be found

    (3) Seymour Hersch wrote that there have been case of children being tortured by US agents, and even children being sodomized

    I think the photos would destroy the US’ reputation beyond reclamation.

    Posted by: chrisfox8 | May 14, 2009 12:55 PM | Report abuse

    froomkin has the goods

    and I got some questions

    not the “NICE” kind a questions either …

  14. timbo says:

    The whole conclusion here is not meaningful. If Conyers demanded Bybee appear, he’d better well had. The House is the one that votes for an impeachment trial in the Senate…but with Pelosi in charge it’s unlikely that any of these criminals are going to come to justice any time soon…or, at the very least, be removed from official political power?! WTF is wrong with the Congress is all in the House…until the point that they actually impeach some folks and reassert their Constitutional perogative to maintain some semblence of Constitutionality to the government…or is it that the House’s relevancy is no longer all that important to the conduct of a legal form of government?

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