Scott Shane’s Love Affair for Dick Cheney and Kit Bond
The NYT’s Scott Shane presents what pretends to be a comprehensive review of the options for some kind of investigation into Bush era crimes. He reviews four options–a criminal investigation akin to Lawrence Walsh’s Iran-Contra investigation, a congressional investigation akin to the Church Committee, a bipartisan investigation akin to the 9/11 Commission, and nothing aside from currently investigations like the OPR review of Yoo’s and Bradbury’s advocacy on torture.
But there are two very disturbing aspects to his story.
First, in a review of options for holding what we all know to be Dick Cheney responsible for shredding the Constitution, why would you present such a selective picture of Dick’s own history with efforts to hold Presidents responsible for violating the law?
Many Republicans, however, say the lofty appeals to justice and history mask an unseemly and dangerous drive to pillory the Bush administration and hamstring the intelligence agencies.
That was precisely the view of an aide in Gerald Ford’s White House named Dick Cheney when a Senate committee led by Frank Church of Idaho looked into intelligence abuses in the mid-1970s. A quarter-century later, as vice president, Mr. Cheney would effectively wreak vengeance on that committee’s legacy, encouraging the National Security Agency to bypass the warrant requirement the committee had proposed and unleashing the Central Intelligence Agency he felt the committee had shackled.
[snip]
But some Republicans saw Mr. Church as a showboat and his committee as overreaching. To Mr. Cheney, the Church legacy was a regrettable pruning of the president’s powers to protect the country — powers he and Bush administration lawyers reasserted after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.
Shane’s claims about Cheney’s views are odd. He bases his characterization on no quote from Cheney, though many are readily available. And his first description–the claim that Cheney’s "precise view" of the Church Committee was that it was really about an "unseemly and dangerous drive to pillory the [Nixon?] administration and hamstring the intelligence agencies"–seems to contradict his later more accurate claim that Cheney believed the Church committee improperly constrained Presidential powers. Which is it? A personalized attack against one administration and the targeting of intelligence professionals or an attack on Presidential power? Or is Shane suggesting that Cheney’s view of any investigation now would be an attempt to pillory the Bush/Cheney Administration, which is a different stance than his prior position regarding investigations of Presidents?
And then, just as oddly, Shane makes absolutely no mention of the role that Dick Cheney played in the Iran-Contra investigation, as the ranking member of the Congressional investigative committee. Cheney was just as central a figure in defending Reagan’s (and Poppy’s) abuse of power as he was in defending Nixon’s.
What makes the weird approach to Cheney all the weirder is Shane’s mis-citation of Eric Holder on whether or not the Administration would prosecute those who devised the torture program, which Shane uses to set up some kind of equivalency between Poppy pardoning Cap Weinberger (who, after all, was protecting Poppy himself) with Obama’s and Holder’s disinterest in prosecuting those who implemented Cheney’s plan for torture.
Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. said at his confirmation hearing that he, like Mr. Obama, did not want to "criminalize policy differences" by punishing officials for acts they believed were legal. The same language was used in 1992 by President George H. W. Bush when he pardoned six officials charged in the Iran-contra investigation. Mr. Bush called the charges "a profoundly troubling development in the history of our country: the criminalization of policy differences."
Perhaps I’m being overly sensitive to the word "officials" here–which seems to suggest those in some position of authority. But since we’ve already seen Kit Bond try to expand the meaning of Holder’s reference to "intelligence officers" to include political leaders, it seems some precision is worthwhile. Holder has clearly stated he won’t prosecute those who implemented Cheney’s torture (and warrarntless wiretapping, presumably) policy. He has remained non-committal on whether or not Dick Cheney is above the law.
Now, Shane does address this other scenario–prosecuting those, like Yoo, who justified torture, and those, like Cheney, who pushed for the regime (and note his use of "official" again here). But he pretty dismisses that as too hard (notwithstanding Carl Levin’s report which clearly shows the involvement of Rummy in the torture).
But many legal experts believe that the Justice Department would be hard pressed to prosecute as torture methods that the department itself declared in 2002 not to be torture. And if an important goal is to determine who devised the policies, a push to prosecute might only persuade past officials to lawyer up and clam up.
This whole story, after all, is about holding Dick Cheney and his minions accountable. And while none of the past examples Shane gives address the possibility of holding Cheney accountable (somehow, Shane ignores the Nixon investigation), he just throws a flaccid, "a push to prosecute [Dick Cheney] might only persuade [him] to lawyer up and clam up."
Really? Dick Cheney? And yes–I met Shane while we were both covering the Libby trial.
Admittedly, Shane’s weird story will probably not affect whether or not we get some kind of investigation into Cheney going forward (though I’ll be curious to see if anyone adopts Shane’s transparently bad logic and "analysis"). But I do find it a rather neurotic expression of a certain unwillingness to describe what is really going on here.
Among the options that Shane neglects to enumerate is extradition. Per the UN Convention against torture, we must prosecute those accused of torture, or extradite them to some place that will.
This appears to be the continued TradMed buyin of the Repug meme of:
And for those who need a translation of this typically Repug “down is up”, “out is in”, “wrong is right” nonsense, this is what they are really are doing:
After decades of Repug “politicization of criminality”, you’d think the TradMed would’ve caught on by now.
Guess again!
ther’s no excuse for not investigating cheney/bush et al .. we have a duty to do so under the law ..and various treaty obligations ..
if we don’t .. we can just scrap old glory as our national banner and replace it with a steaming pile of chickenshit centered on a bright yellow piece of very cheap cloth ..
So what, if a prideful and self-confessed torturer clams up. Too late. We have the truth and have no interest in reconciliation. This isn’t about retribution and not about policy differences. This is about deterence and about honoring our obligations under international treaties, which are binding law per the Supremacy Clause. An attorney general who fails to prosecute clear, undisputed, and even boasted war crimes is derelict and should step down.
Regarding the sainted NYT: I got a package with a page of the Seattle Times used as padding. I found more interesting articles which showed more courage and inquisitiveness than I’ve encountered in the NYT lately. On just two pages: New species in an Israeli cave. Hans Blix and commission against nuclear weapons. Oil extraction taking environmental toll. 89 Guantanamo detainees on hunger strike. Pretty good, for packing material.
behindthefall: page of the Seattle Times … 89 Guantanamo detainees on hunger strike.
When was this edition of the paper? I ask because I’ve been trying to reconstruct the history of hunger strikes at Guantanamo, and closely following the current one (which the GTMO authorities say involves 42 prisoners, but their accounts of events cannot be relied on).
Well, back in the 80s, the US had not bungled into Iraq and Afghanistan, nor had the market melted down in what has signs of criminal conduct (fraud) leaving millions unemployed.
Whatever historical analogies Shane would like to include are now trumped by the fact that they’re not all that relevant in an era where the disruptions don’t really fit historical facts all that well.
We appear to be living in an age of the improbable. For instance, give me odds on any of these things happening:
– A US Pres candidate would receive fewer popular votes than his opponent (and in a state where his brother has wired things to make sure that he wins), whereupon SCOTUS intervenes to coronate him President.
– A VP is behind outing a CIA agent, the Pres retains a criminal defense atty, and a network of ideologues who have overtaken the policy apparatus of the military are implicated.
– $500 billion are withdrawn electronically from the US banking system on a September morning in a matter of hours, and the economy hemmorage kicks into high gear.
– Et cetera…
All these things seem like they’d be out of sci-fi, yet all have occurred.
This may sound totally bizarre, and I’m not ready to bet on it, but:
– Note that Bush & Cheney (and Laura & Lynne) didn’t as much as even look at one another on Inauguration Day as near as we can tell.
– We’re now getting reports that Cheney fought like hell to get Dubya to pardon Scooter (see last week’s Hardball, in which Matthews actually voices his hunch that “Chalabi out-Cheney’d Cheney” and drew us into Iraq).
– Note Cheney’s almost loquacious (for him) interview with Politico, in which he tossed his pearls before swine in a clear effort to retain a perception that he’s an invaluable authority.
– If — and I say **if** — reports at antiwar.com are correct in stating that Petraeus was Cheney’s back door to undercut the top military commanders, and also **if** Obama has …?Blair?… in place partly as a defensive action to put Petraeus ‘on notice’ that he works for Obama, then there are plenty of DoD daggers ready to watch Cheney and the rest get their cosmic due.
This may sound really strange, but I’ve wondered the past week whether someone cut a deal with Dubya and the Bush41 crowd that they’d get a free pass if they served up Cheney, Addington, etc.
I view this report as one more skirmish in Cheney’s efforts to claim he’s invulnerable, and use the CIA as his cover. Just like usual.
May sound weird, but given the intense, smoldering resentment and contempt that I hear among people about ‘government’, I think Obama may not be able to stall an investigation. I think people are way, way too angry to let this go by uninvestigated, and unpunished.
Maybe I’m wrong, and it’s almost more on the level of a dull hum, but I sure suspect that a lot of the public really want to see this mess investigated, cleared up, and de-toxified.
Hell, we have to clean up the fraud in the banks.
Gotta clean up the fraud in the policy arm as well.
The hardcore R’s will be hyperventilate and personalize it, but they’re about as astute on this topic as they are on basic economics. Tone deaf.
I think we are more likely to see Cheney investigated than not.
We live in the age of improbabilities, and he damaged too many in DC and the rest of the nation. Even the Saudi’s can’t save him now.
And we haven’t yet heard from the folks lining up to spill to Seymore Hirsh.
Me too, FWIW. A jujitsu move to first leave Team Dick free to overact, then remove the support on which the moves depended, and now just sit back and watch the inevitable free-fall once their momentum carries them well over the edge. Tumbling Scooter, free-falling Addington, and eventually crashing Dick.
Which reminds me, anyone know what Addington’s doing now?
“This may sound totally bizarre, and I’m not ready to bet on it, but:
– Note that Bush & Cheney (and Laura & Lynne) didn’t as much as even look at one another on Inauguration Day as near as we can tell.
– We’re now getting reports that Cheney fought like hell to get Dubya to pardon Scooter (see last week’s Hardball, in which Matthews actually voices his hunch that “Chalabi out-Cheney’d Cheney” and drew us into Iraq).
– Note Cheney’s almost loquacious (for him) interview with Politico, in which he tossed his pearls before swine in a clear effort to retain a perception that he’s an invaluable authority.
– If — and I say **if** — reports at antiwar.com are correct in stating that Petraeus was Cheney’s back door to undercut the top military commanders, and also **if** Obama has …?Blair?… in place partly as a defensive action to put Petraeus ‘on notice’ that he works for Obama, then there are plenty of DoD daggers ready to watch Cheney and the rest get their cosmic due.
This may sound really strange, but I’ve wondered the past week whether someone cut a deal with Dubya and the Bush41 crowd that they’d get a free pass if they served up Cheney, Addington, etc.”
Well, I think you could be right — tiz Bush Mode of Operation to try to leave the scene of the crimes without leaving negative threads hanging out that lead back to him. And in Bushworld, Cheney was always just hired help. I suspect he has just begun to understand this in the last six months or so.
The problem for Obama is that Cheney has probably left a Petraeus bomb behind in literally every Federal Agency, and in lots of cases he probably didn’t tell Bush where he buried his bones. I think Obama is smart enough to go sniff out a lot of them, and put in place his necessary protections, but it is something of a diversion from what he should be focused on these days. Petraeus apparently is being given rope to hang himself with in Afghanistan — necessary but sad. I have always guessed that Petraeus was being set up to be the next IKE for the next generation of Republicans in either 2012 or 2016 — and the best way to avoid that is to let him fail or only do a so-so job. I see Petraeus as perhaps as dangerous as MacArthur was in the 40’s and early 50’s.
Oddly I see Liddy’s situation as a little different. One thing to remember, his wife was a fairly long term staffer for Joe Biden, and apparently never broke that relationship. (I am remembering her comment when the Jury came in.) Given a little time, Liddy might be convinced to do some flipping on various things via that relationship avenue, so that a few years from now the pardon that he so badly wants (I believe so he can do corporate law stuff again), could come his way in exchange for appropriate intelligence as to where the Cheney Bones are located. He stayed nicely shut up till Jan 20th, and got nothing via Cheney — but if he put out at an appropriate time and place, and with the right material, the Biden relationship just might pay off in four or eight years.
Liddy? Who he? Or do you mean Libby?
Bob in HI
Yes, it is Scooter Libby.
Where have I been?!!
I did not realize Scooter’s wife worked for B-i-d-e-n.
It’s not the kind of thing that I’d have forgotten.
WTF?
Oh, that’s a cute trick. And Shane narrates as though he doesn’t necessarily think that way himself, even though what he is reporting is, in logical terms, straight through the looking-glass. By that logic, an awful lot of heinous crimes should not have been prosecuted in the past and never can be prosecuted. Where did these people go to school?
Sometimes, y’know, I just want to walk out into the middle of the street, any street, and start shouting “Nuremberg!”
Ahh, but in the NYT style book, this could refer to anybody
from Erick Erickson (”Chairman of the Board” of redstate.com)
to Scooter himself (”senior advisor” at the Hudson Institute).
In other words, completely meaningless.
Sorta like being Governor of Alaska.
No shit. Kind of a meandering pile of very serious nothing.
Um, Cheney already is lawyered up Shane, and on a couple of levels if you include Addington, and, no, he won’t clam up. He will quack and cluck around like he has been because he is Dick Cheney and that is what he does. He will keep repeating the same stuff he has been with impunity; it is the Cheney way.
Gitmo torture continues under Obama: http://www.salon.com/opinion/g…..index.html
It’s one thing to give the Republicans’ version of things, but Scott Shane does it with a kind of adolescent reverence, an almost sexual longing for their views. That’s not reporting; its’ hagiography.
As you point out, the version of history “many Republicans” would see is almost verbatim Cheney’s views of Iran Contra, which his administration spent eight years putting in place twenty years later.
Shane is taking dictation. The Times should put his work on the Op-Ed pages under the bylines “Dick Cheney” or not publish it.
Amazing how convenient 9/11 was for these guys
Interesting, Sara:
Never thought of it in that light, but true. Bush is Bushworld. Cheney is simply Cheney.
Isn’t there an old African proverb about this? Something about a poisonous water snake being talked into giving a scorpion a ride across a lake or something?
Interesting thought. In the bizarre universe that is George Bush’s mind, Cheney did his job by doing George’s. That’s what he got paid for, to make the boss look good and to keep him from having to accept any limits, much less his decidedly severe limits. All the power that allowed Cheney to wield still won’t let Dick in the front door of George’s mansion.
No tears, crocodile or otherwise, need be shed for Cheney. He knew it going in, he knew it while he was wielding that power, and he knows it now. Wielding the power was what counted. He maintains enough residual power and considerable wealth that he can laugh as much at Lil’ George as LG does back at him.
“No tears, crocodile or otherwise, need be shed for Cheney. He knew it going in, he knew it while he was wielding that power, and he knows it now. Wielding the power was what counted. He maintains enough residual power and considerable wealth that he can laugh as much at Lil’ George as LG does back at him.”
Actually I think the Bush Family could have Cheney over a barrel. It has to do with a business decision he made in his last months at Halliburton before they were elected in 2000, but it was about merging Dresser Industries with Halliburton.
Dresser was very badly exposed to damage suits because of its long time use of asbestos — and in the late 90’s, in quite another case, it was established that users had long term knowledge of the serious damage asbestos could cause, as a lead case had emerged pretty much in tact from the appeals process, and other suits had been grouped together to be tried in a single court. Dresser faced bankruptcy and liquidation. But Cheney merged Dresser with Halliburton, assuming in the process the liability, and apparently he was less than truthful with his Board as to the costs that might be entailed. Dresser had been a Bush linked (probably owned) company since back before World War II — part of Prescott Bush’s world. It was where GWHBush first worked when he got out of Yale. I believe the damage suits were eventually settled with some sort of large damage fund into which everyone contributed, and no one admitted liability.
I have always more or less assumed that Cheney made Halliburton available to the Bush Family to dispose of Dresser and its liability — and then they got repaid, with interest, with their over priced no bid contracts with DoD. I suspect Cheney either now, or in the past could have been targeted for collusion of some sort had any stakeholder in Halliburton wanted to raise a stink. In this respect, Bush and Cheney have each other in a deadly embrace.
This is when I really miss my Dad who was a fantastic storyteller about these sorts of business dealings. He knew a great deal about Dresser because much of Dresser’s operations were in Ohio during World War II, and at the end of the war he worked for War Assets Administration, which wound up the final audits and dispositions of war contractors, and I think he must have worked about a year on Dresser. I just remember lots of odd details about it — I know there was a bribe case — someone with Dresser tried to bribe one of the Government accountants on the case, and it had to be reported through the Pentagon, and eventually Truman heard about it, and started asking questions, and things came apart. I know Dresser dealt with building ships for the Navy — probably where the asbestos comes into the picture. And I can remember my dad saying there was blatent political influence involved with it — but I can’t reconstruct by whom or about what. {Fair warning — write your juicy stories down so 60 years later, when you are dead and gone, your kids can reconstruct them.} Anyhow, I’ve always had the notion that Dresser was a very dirty company in terms of its business practices, probably because that was the theme of all my Dad’s stories.
“Where have I been?!!
I did not realize Scooter’s wife worked for B-i-d-e-n.
It’s not the kind of thing that I’d have forgotten.
WTF?”
Yea, Scooter’s wife was legal counsel to the Foreign Relations Committee on the Democratic Side, when Biden was first Chair. In fact Scooter and his wife got married during that period, as Scooter was Republican Counsel to something else — perhaps a subcommittee or a member…whatever he told Judy Miller to use as his fake ID actually. I remember she outranked him. That was probably nine years ago, as their kid was six when his dad was convicted, and was born about a year after they married. So first two years of the Clinton Administration — adds up. Biden has a long reputation of taking very good care of his staffers, and keeping them for years.
wasn’t there some sort of corporate consolidation of the asbestos suits, using dresser to buy up several companies that faced liability, transferring the liability to dresser, and then selling off the “clean” companies
in that context, the whole dresser issue could be look at as a criminal conspiricy to escape legal liability
with dead eye dick disposing of the last bit of liability from the veep’s office
I think I once dreamed up a conspiricy theory of that sort …
Libby was Counsel to Chris Cox’s “investigation” of nuclear proliferation, designed to hide Iran-Contra arms deal with the Chinese under accusations of “Democratic” proliferation out of Los Alamos. Of course we now know Wen Ho Lee, the sole evidence at LA, was brought down by a Republican double agent.
OT, but this touches one of my longest-standing political concerns, one that will have to see some serious changes if the balance of power between grassroots citizenry and permanent government is to shift meaningfully.
The world of Congressional staff is a remarkably un-transparent one, considering that a third of them go on to become lobbyists. Very few members of Congress or committees will even provide a list their staff to constituents, much less put their names and functions on the website. The press, even new media like TPMpire, are reluctant to provide this information, because these are their peers and sources and personal friends.
Even at CongressMatters, I got no support and much pushback about privacy concerns when I raised the issue.
well, the way I see it, we can wait until 2011, when the repuglitards wont be able to do ANYTHING
we can let all 30 somthing of the repuglitarded senators have their hissy fits
all 100 and some odd dozen repuglitards can beat their chests in the House Of representative
and the good news is that after 2013, we don’t have to listen to the repuglitards any more, cuz there AIN’T gonna be any repuglitards left
let them cry about criminalizing politics
let them whail about Obama’s birth certificate
let the repuglitards scream and shout and stomp their feet
America is DONE with that shit
Abe Lincoln wasn’t quite right, the repuglitards can fool some of the people all of the time, but not forever
OT, small world, A-Rod lawyers up.
I knew there was a conncection between steroids and Valerie Plame
Meet Mr. Sharp, A-Rod’s newest teammate…
“Sharp is a 68-year-old former federal prosecutor who is based in Washington. He represented former President George W. Bush in connection with the Valerie Plame investigation and also represented the former head of Enron, Kenneth L. Lay.”
We can add another chapter to the e-mail timeline?
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/….._0222.html
Only provided we acknowledge that the Bush timeline extended at least a week after Obama was inaugurated–check the date on that filing. It was January 21, almost certainly a dead-ender filing.
I thought the funniest part of the article was Shane claiming the mantle of Decider, virtuously informing his readers of what their life philosphy should be,
Shane and Lincoln, the guys who “knew” Who knew?