Draft Blagojevich Impeachment Report Released
Here. The Trib’s overview is here.
I think the head cold is sufficiently at bay so I can read along with you.
One thing to note as you read: how the Committee has used (in limited fashion) Fitz’ evidence from the complaint. Note they’re focusing on the flashy stuff: Wrigley Field and the Senate seat. The pay to play stuff has been lumped in with testimony from the Rezko and other trials.
Also note a few of these items are things that are reasonably laudable–better services–but which Blago tried to accomplish through illegal means.
And finally, note the Executive Ethics Commission Report, starting on page 53. This is basically about Blago breaking all sorts of hiring rules. I raise it for you to keep in mind as Dems start cheerleading this impeachment. The charge is something that Bush is equally guilty of–but there was no squawk of impeachment for him.
Starting on page 60, there is a list of all the evidence they’ve used thus far. You can access almost all of those at this website.
Actually there were folks squawking for Bush’s impeachment for many acts including but not limited to the breaking of the hiring rules.
It’s just that it was not done by anyone in a position to do anything about it.
Ah, that’s right.
Point being that the same peopel who refused to squawk before will be squawking now.
Same as the same people who think Toobz did no wrong don’t want to seat Burris.
The Trib’s documents is coming back “file not found”.
Which link? They all work for me.
Or my head cold is worse than I think.
The very first one. The Trib article comes up fine.
I got the doc just fine, it’s a 9M or so PDF. If you’re not on high speed, you’ll have to be patient.
If Burris ISN’T seated before Blago is impeached, does he still get the seat?
Boxturtle (Blago ball is fun!)
Burris testifies before the impeachment committee today.
I assume he’ll be seated barring any suspicious statements today. He and Franken will probably be seated together next week, after Pawlenty signs the Franken certification.
Tough question; don’t know the answer. I think there is a pretty cognizable argument that the appointment is properly vested in Burris at this point. If the Senate tries to string Burris out until Blago is convicted, I think it is going to get very ugly unless the legislature come up with something out of the ordinary this afternoon in their examination of Burris.
That’s my understanding, as well. The act of appointing is a momentary event. And it’s been done, so that’s that. (I’m also with you on the lack of any need for additional signatures; that’s a game being played to cover Harry “who can I bend over for now?” Reid.) Furthermore, I don’t think that anyone has the power to revoke the appointment, either – not even Blago, himself – even though I’ve seen this idea mentioned on several sites.
Here’s a different link to the report.
Bet Blago’s next move is to wait until just before the impeachment vote, then use the “step aside” provision the Ill consitiution allows. Then challenge any impeachment in court on the grounds he stepped aside.
Boxturtle (Wonder if Reid is smart enough to realize he’s stupid?)
I think the IL leg would be happy just to have him gone, assuming he’d be indicted in teh next 3 months anyway.
Besides, some of them got where they are by the same methods as Blago anyway.
I like the one note at the end, how the charges against Blago have already cost the State something like $21 mil – in increased interest b/c his shenanigans have lowered the state’s credit onto the “negative credit watch” list and because closing a loan/financing had to be delayed a couple days to rework the deal documents to reflect the charges against Blago.
Selfish swine Blago should shut up and leave….
If he was your client, is that what you would recommend?
Can I have a shot?
On defense I’ve taken on well more than my share of superficially hopeless causes, so on little to nothing more than a gut feeling – though whenever that gets requited I find on reflection it was more in the nature of a line of reasoning that was more easy in hypothesis than to articulate [For the non-lawyers out there, this is far from an uncommon occurence – oh, the stories we could tell.].
This impeachment report gives off quite the opposite impression – tho Ed Genson’s such a resilient old warhorse, he knows the potential from staying patient – and also silent [sometimes: I return to this below] and that showing a kindly, charitable demeanor toward an embattled client is, in private far more preferable [for a wide range of reasons, some of which might seem crass to the uninitiated but are definitely not – for example, the dimensions of the fee and arrangements to secure its payment], and in public, quite simply good marketing practice for a criminal defense attorney.
There’s such a lot of hackery in this bad old world – yesterday’s homework presented four stirling examples – that it’s a pleasure to read something prepared for submission in a context so characterized by political hackery that’s such an elegantly drafted, self-aware [but not self-conscious – if that makes sense], well-constructed road map. From time to time when on a run, particularly in the later stages of my stints in prosecution, it felt as if the job became easier the more transparent my efforts were – and years later I know that feeling was accurate and true. The point of connection to this report is that there comes a point where everything is laid out with just the right degree of prudence and balance that the side ‘prosecuting’ the cause has the right to feel, despite all modesty false or not, its a fair, circumspect, responsible, and frankly damn good piece of work, something not just to be proud of but something that’s going to require an extraordinary response to overcome – & good luck to them –
conversely, as a defending attorney, precisely what I do not wish to see.
For MacBlago and team to deal with this impeachment strategy is going to seem like wrestling a python – while you’re concentrating so hard on neutralizing one section from cutting off your breathing, another is encircling your lower vital organs and preparing to squeeze so hard they pop like balloons, and still another is disabling you from moving to safety, etc etc etc. It’s as difficult to see which point of attack will be responsible for bringing down MacBlago as it is to predict which vital function will be the most proximate cause of death from a python attack.
So: what does the defending attorney do? Well, I know what I’d do: tell him he’s smart; tell him he’s good-looking; and tell him dog-gone-it his wife and his kids and his dog like him – then tell him the unvarnished truth about how it looks, suggest he trust in prayer, quote him a mighty fee, and end with saying: sorry Rod: you need it secured, and now.
All of which is not exactly the same thing as saying it’s hopeless, or that the roller coaster ride definitely won’t have its share of thrills and spills for all concerned.
Heh, if prosecutors and cops just all figured out this immutable logic from the get go, the conviction rates would skyrocket and defense lawyers would be hurting.
Seems to me, they got nothin’ until Fitz indicts. “Draft Report” indeed.
What’s the anaolgy? Blago is playing chess while everyone else is playing checkers?
After getting torched by Blago so far, any Dem that gets even close to cheerleading this thing is a fool, but they haven’t learned any lessons from getting played over and over for 8 years, so of course some of them will.
Whatever the LAW is, they need to freakin’ follow it. Period.
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Now THAT is something the taxpayers of Illinois can get behind!
Needless to say, I demur [See 14 above].
The danger in these sorts of cases, where there’s SO MUCH, is in the ‘jury’ getting lost in a labyrinthe of detail, overwhelmed by the monstrosity, so vulnerable to distraction by panders to the pool and shiny objects, faced with so many options the members can’t come together to choose.
Though in very different ways, both the first criminal trial against OJ and the Senate impeachment hearing on Bill Clinton suffered from such problems. The authors of this report on the MacBlago impeachment have deftly avoided so many of the same pitfalls, plus there’s no criminal onus or mind-challenging science of the kind that hampered the prosecution in the first; and no jury pool divided along so many lines that Starr couldn’t overcome in the second.
Is it or is it not the assumption that the Illinois state Senate wants MacBlago gone? If it is, then barring magic reality, this is a foregone conclusion.
Oh – and I meant to say something [brief] on the ‘right to remain silent’. The authors of the report have put this masterfully, and at several levels. Bottom line: that right applies to use in criminal proceedings against him, but these are not criminal proceedings and he failed to even try to rebut what is open to being interpreted against him, and that failure, while itself not determinative, adds to his burden in this cause.
What is comes down to is that MacBlago is already partly cooked for not coming forth at the investigation level, and he is forced to find a way to perform in front of the Senate to overcome that – whereas if he ’succeeds’ in doing that through his own testimony, quite apart from the fact it might not work [It’s shouldn’t.], all of a sudden he’s setting himself up for perjury, which is just about the easiest take down there is for someone in his position.
Just to show good faith here: you’re fully entitled to brag on Snopes. That was the most fun I’ve had watching any game this season. Go Bolts!
Indeitally, one of the letters up in the exhibits is one fo the letters they used to call Blago’s bluff. “I noticed you said on TV you wanted to tell your story. Does that mean you’ve changed your mind about testifying before us?”
And of course, no answer.
Oh yeah, Blago’s goose is cooked for sure – but to me it appears Mr. Burris ain’t goin’ anywhere. There are some serious tools in the Senate – why should he be any different?
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Thanks! Great game, and win or lose I would have been raving about it. Sproles all-purpose yads were the most in a playoff game since ‘71, that’s 37 years. Hello Modern Era!
The Bolts are so much easier to watch when you don’t have expectations. I was in the same place last year against the Pats: figuring they’d compete, no expectation of a ‘W’.
I don’t brag on the team, ever – unless Raider Fans are involved. I educate the non-believers, and defend against their imprecations, but always reality-based.
Yeah, sorry about the misname of DS. Years of expecting all Miracles San Diegan to come packaged as LT, and Saturday’s wonder came entirely without warning, at least to the uninitiated.
He really could do with nickname, & not something weakass like The Boltlet – & tho he sure makes dandy cuts, not The Cutlet – HE’s the one doing the eating.
Let’s see: Your guys have had: an LT – & a Lincoln – & a super-sized Junior – & the dwarf who threw the Hail Mary … oh & my all-time favorite Bolt: Bambi.
What about Bambi’s little furry forest friend Thumper? Work with me here or give us something better – I’m figuring there’s room.
Apologies for the OT, but back on a GM/auto thread, I went into a full rant about how foolish it is for car dealerships to locate in floodplains. Just thought this would be a good time to drive home my point, now that my region is flooding so badly that both Interstate 5 and the Amtrak rails are closed, due to flooding: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28541070/
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/
If anyone wants a few images of the costs of stupid political decisions, craven decisions made by ill-informed or cowardly (or corrupt) electeds, click on either link. This is what the kind of ’stupid’ that Blago personifies looks like in ‘the real world’.
He isn’t my client.
He wouldn’t be my client, because he’s the kind of client who decides he knows better than what the lawyer he’s supposed to be paying tells him to do, and goes off and does and/or says whatever it is that first pops into the vacant space between his ears. And I won’t put up with that kind of crap.
He also likely wouldn’t be my client because strikes me as the kind of pol who’d want me to do my legal work on the cuff, i.e., for the prestige of being the governor’s lawyer and no pay. I’ve seen that a couple times and, as to those pols, maintain a safe and sane – but sociable – distance.
If, OTOH, he was my client, I might (depending on state law) have had him fighting harder – turn out the State Police on the legislators or something. Fact is, he’s going down, so why not make a real spectacle out of it on the odd chance that something that egregious might actually work.
Obviously he is not your client; he is not mine either. If he paid the requested up front flat fee I quoted, or sufficiently secured the same, I would take him in a heartbeat. I am not so sure he has gone off Genson’s reservation, although he may well have.
My main question in asking the hypothetical was to inquire into your statement “Selfish swine Blago should shut up and leave….” because, while that may be a popular sentiment (one I share as well) it strikes me that that is contrary to his interests as a criminal defendant.
On the other hand, I would have counseled to keep the Senate appointment in my pocket as a bargaining chip. Perhaps he truly intends to fight to the death; if not, the Senate appointment was his biggest chip, and all chips needed to be played before impeachment trial and conviction.
I’m with your read.
Lots of MSM types in particular have been giving credit to MacBlago for the way he played the Reid et al on the Senate seat card; but I’d be thinking that with the Obama move to let Burris go in [Guy plays poker, right?], events very likely will subsume his limited ‘news’ interest to point that his is, well clearly not the gift that is Palin, but even well below that of Joe the whatever.
Now, as you say, your wild card’s gone, in a game where the other side is showing a full house of royalty with the distinct possibility of a flop to 4 of them – with your back to the crowd and hardly a friend in it.
Did Genson cut and run? I have a vague memory of seeing something to that effect.
Two things.
First, his resignation is the biggest chip, and THEN the Senate appoint.
Also, like you, I’m not convinced he’s gone off the rez. Specifically with the horse race thing and the Senate seat, I wonder if they offered ways to “prove” that he was not criminal by doing what he said he wasn’t going to do.
So, when it gets to trial or even impeachment and the prosecutor says “Blago wasn’t willing to give the seat to anyone who didn’t give him something,” he can point to Burris and say, “But Burris didn’t give me anything (At least not for several years).”
Um, yes, of course the resignation is the biggest chip; you got me there. Certainly did not intend to imply otherwise, and was sloppy in leaving that impression; I was kind of talking in addition to or enhancing the resignation value, which is kind of obvious.
Hey now, I’ve got a nasty cold. Don’t get cranky today, I’m unpredictable.
Duly noted and understood. I’ll just find some hapless Sooner to mess with instead…..
“his resignation is the biggest chip, and THEN the Senate appoint”
You are, oh perpetually turning one, both astute and correct, as usual – but with one caveat: The two cards have – had – a complementary effect. Playing the lesser one first, as opposed to using them in tandem before this report was made public, turns the greater one’s value into something on par with a big holding in credit default swaps held by Lehman Bros, no?
“Fact is, he’s going down, so why not make a real spectacle out of it on the odd chance that something that egregious might actually work.”
Well, we know spectacle and egregious are both in the playbook, just from what we’ve seen so far. And they’re so big, they’re usually not seen until the end, or at least not until the Show, if at all.
So do you think we’re going to have mint words as episodes unfold?
This is kind of fun.
I might get in the habit of asking the lawyers on the list what they would do in a particular situation.
As a way to get to know y’all better, don’tcha know?
Sorry, ya gotta pay to play baybee!
That would be a guy whose last name rhymes with “lead”, which is something he doesn’t do?
Not substantive, but I see the word “thusly” in the somewhat important government document linked. This is embarrassing.
Yeah. Both together are clearly the most valuable.
And he has dealt that away. Burris’ testimony before the Impeachment Committee is pretty interesting there–apparently, the guy who was Blago’s defense attorney until he got arrested is the one who asked Burris to be Senator. Burris’ current lawyer, Genson, is trying very hard to deny that that lawyer has any role in this.