Pelosi Appoints Dusty Foggo and Jose Rodriguez’ Buddy to Ethics Committee
Porter Goss’ tenure as Director of the CIA is noted for two things above all–and neither has to do with the collection and analysis of intelligence.
First, there’s his buddy, Dusty Foggo, whom Goss appointed to be Executive Director of the CIA. In that role, Foggo is alleged to have exploited the weaknesses of the earmark system–not to mention Duke Cunningham’s weakness for whores–to steer millions of dollars in contracts to the company of his childhood friend, Brent Wilkes. In addition, Foggo pulled strings to get his girlfriend hired at CIA.
Then, there’s Jose Rodriguez, whom Goss appointed to be director of the CIA’s Clandestine Services after Goss ousted Stephen Kappes because he wasn’t a political hack. Rodriguez is best known for ordering the torture tapes depicting Abu Zubaydah’s and al-Nashiri’s interrogation destroyed–in spite of the many court orders and outstanding requests from the 9/11 Commission and Congress for such evidence. Goss says he wasn’t involved, but Rodriguez faced no discipline for having the tapes destroyed–even in spite of the fact that then DNI John Negroponte warned Goss to make sure the tapes weren’t destroyed. Rodriguez also spiked the internal CIA investigation into why the folks who rendered Abu Omar out of Italy were so damned incompetent–leaving a cell phone trail right up to the CIA’s doors, not to mention thousands of dollars in hotel bills because spooks must have luxury, don’t you know.
In short, Porter Goss is known to be an incredible hack who oversaw great ethical (and legal) abuses that, at least so long as Goss was in charge, escaped all consequences.
Precisely the kind of guy you’d want in charge of Congress’ Ethics Review Board, right? Oh wait, I mean, precisely the kind of guy Nancy Pelosi would want in charge of Congress’ Ethics Review Board (h/t John Forde). You and I, of course, would think it an utterly ludicrous idea to put a guy like Goss, with huge ethical stains on his record, in charge of Congress’ ethics. But I guess the Speaker of the House doesn’t agree.
Par for the course, I guess, since there’s now so many areas where the Speaker and I don’t agree. Why did I get that Pelosi ‘07 bumper sticker?
Oh right. She promised she’d have subpoena power and change a few things.
Well, you know, considering Nancy’s moves of late to stonewall any kind of accountability moment for the R’s, the Goss appointment makes lots of sense.
When are we finally going to get the fact that the dems in charge are not on the side of peace and justice?
The guy who resigned from CIA in disgrace and who now ought to be in prison? That guy? Um, wow, just wow. Any more questions from anyone about the degree of dereliction of duty duty on Pelosi’s part? Anybody still think she is admirable and doing the best she can? I didn’t think so.
I’m with you.
Laura Rozen has the line of the day:
pelosi is disgusting… welcome to ‘fox guarding the chicken house’ world…
Unfreakingbelievable. They must have something on her.
yeah, she knew about torture and did nothing about stopping it. War crime.
Nope. She is one of them.
When does that waste of skin come up for re-election? Any chance of kicking her ass out of the Speaker’s chair in the next congress???
Like every member of the U.S. House of Representatives, every two years.
Unbelievable!!
Torture memos released:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyo…..928/556382
A) Release date coincides with massive Obama Berlin coverage. Gonna get buried in the news.
B) If that’s what’s on the menu for a Thursday, what the damn can we expect in the Friday dumps?
Goss in charge of Congress’ political ethics? Apart from the down-the-rabbit-hole character of the appointment, it is Nancy telling us that she’s willing to acknowledge the rhetoric of political accountability, but determined to gut its substance like a fish.
Would you say that’s more hometown Baltimore waterfront than SFO liberal politics? She just g
Now, the Energizer Bunny is suppose to drum across this post and then the real story will be posted right? A story reflecting a paragon of truth and noble character, right? Please tell I’m correct…
Drum, drum, drum?
Is there a real story…?
No excuse.. this is f***ing outrageous. I’m sending Cindy some jack now, just so I can say I did something to end Pelosi’s madness today.
Well, Goss seems to have a lively interest in matters which in his Republican view are impervious to ethical concerns. I think there must be a horsetrade Nancy has in mind assenting to Goss’ taking minority leadership responsibility in this still fairly weak committee, though he will notice more of a pinch if his party has less say in the 111th congress. I believe recently a thread mentioned he served contemporaneously with NPelosi on HPSCI. I see the gift as Nancy’s awarding a plum to the Republicans, a kind of best buckler and shield, viewed in Republican lenses, given prospects for increased emphasis on ethics next congress.
I think Porter told her, “Appoint me or I’ll tell the world why you *really* took impeachment off the table!”
Bob in HI
Remember Missouri attorney Mark F. Thor Hearne, II who served as the Executive Director of the fraudulent American Center for Voting Rights nonprofit during the 2004 election cycle?
I really would like someone to ask about why Mr. Hearne received a significant payoff from then CIA Director Porter Goss in the form of a portion of Mr. Goss’ $16,000,000 waterfront estate in Sanibel, FL.
(Hint, check the Lee County, FL public records for transfers between Goss and “the Pillar Foundation” of Grand Rapids, MI which is overseen by Hearne. Coincedentally the deal also involves the wife of Mark Andrews, who was a Swiftboat funder). Conveniently, that transfer happened in December 2004 – just after the election. A payoff?
Before Goss is “trusted” with ethics, his own should first be examined. If he was in any way involved in manipulating the 2004 election – or paying off those who did manipulate the 2004 election – it should be known.
Impeachment, accountability, and ethics are off the table. They must have some way bad material on Pelosi to have such an old political hand doll out such favors to a very unpopular president and an even more unpopular congress. Sad.
How did Pelosi become so poisoned?
Porter Goss has the photos, and the negatives, of that wild weekend.
No other explanation
Notice this came out AFTER Netroots Nation. She wouldn’t have dared show her face if we had know this was coming.
Pelosi is a problem for accountable government. Is this appointment a good issue to go to war over?
Here’s Goss’ old house in Sanibel, FL that he gave Hearne and the “Amethyst Trust” a piece of. Looks like they’ve dropped the asking price from $16m to $13m.
It’s actually called “Casa Yucca”. Appropriate.
Hehe…Includes hi tech electronic and security system.
Very, very bizarre. I have to think Boehner waterboarded her. She couldn’t possibly be this sleazy on her own, could she?
Of interest: Slate’s interactive guide to administration lawbreaking.
http://www.slate.com/id/2195533/
Barney Frank should replace Pelosi…
Smart and wonderful debater…
Gets things done…
Articulate…..
Oyyyy, I just couldn’t help myself – I know we’re supposed to be very cordial when we write to our “supposed” Reps and Senators, but Nancy is just BEYOND THE PALE! Here’s a note I just sent to her…
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Porter Goss?????? Are you kidding??? One of the most UNETHICAL men working the halls of government in America today, and YOU are facilitating his appointment to OCE? Shame on you, Ms. Pelosi. You never fail to disappoint your base, your people. Bush and Cheney must be so proud of you. Sighhhhhhh…
Between his close association with mega-briber and prostitution-addict (Duke Cunningham), earmarks for the uber-corrupt Dusty Foggo (see prostitution – above), and the willful destruction of the torture tapes – tapes that your OWN Congress demanded of them – and the quashing of the investigation into the rendering of Abu Omar (Rodriguez), and throw in a little bit ‘o nepotism, and WOW, yeah, that’s the PERFECT guy to have sitting on an ethics committee!!
Nancy, are you paying ANY attention to what’s gone on in this country (and the adult playground that is Wash DC), for the last 7 years?????
You leave me almost speechless…
Glenn (your non-CA constituent – don’t forget, you represent ALL of America as Speaker of the House)
is pelosi’s husband a defense contractor? just wondering.
Real estate mogul I believe.
D’ya think Mr. Pelosi enabled some kind of questionable real estate deal for Goss…???
Something stinks…bigtime.
The connection may go back further. I think Pelosi’s Dad was a political bigwig in Maryland—Mayor of Baltimore or something like that. The connections of the Chicago School and NeoCons go back well over 30 years; it is not presumptuous to assume links between latter day Pelosi and elders in the R-party are there.
That would be Feinstein’s husband. The Feinstein family’s war profiteering should be investigated
I guess we’ll just have to start referring to Nancy Pelosi now as “Madame Speakeasy”.
Why would this surprise anyone? Nancy has made countless questionable decisions right from the beginning of her Speakership tenure. She is beholden to the bad guys it seems.
Viewed through the “impeachment is off the table” lens, Goss’ appointment could be viewed as a necessary evil to continue to keep “impeachment off the table.”
There could be many vulnerable lines of inquiry that run through Congress (and require ethics investigations) that may track back to impeachable acts by the President. Goss was hired to tamp them down?
nancy must just WANT to be a laughing stock. And it’s working. She is setting the cause of women in power back a generation
Wait, you mean Hillary isn’t the most evil evah??? Say it ain’t so!
I’m not sure LHP. Nancy would only be a laughingstock if she was being played. I don’t think that is the case, she’s on the team. The us v. them mentality perpetuated by Rethugs and Demns is crucial for the establishment members on both sides of the aisle to maintain their hold on power. Imagine what would happen if voters actually had the nerve to vote for candidates that were NEITHER Rethugs or Demns. The establishment protects their own against the public interest. Nancy is a member of the establishment team in good standing. She’s on the same side as the Rethug establishment.
Either Nancy’s flipped out or Boehner and Hoyer are doing all the work and hiding behind her.
Ghu, what a job we have to clean this mess up. I’m beginning to think that it would be a good idea to throw all of them out and start over with a revised constitution (one that defines the VP’s place in the structure, and makes it really clear the relationships between the various branches and what constitutes an impeachable offense; I think we want to make sure that inherent contempt is prominently mentioned, too).
Good grief; it’s enough to get me to contribute to Cindy’s challenge to Pelosi’s seat.
Why on Earth would you have to THINK about contributing to Cindy’s challenge. Nancy Pelosi must be removed from office!! It doesn’t matter who’s running against her. She MUST go down in the primary. If she were on my ballot I’d vote for a orange opossum before I’d vote for Nancy the Enabler. She’s dirty kids. Dirty, dirty, dirty. This appointment is to tamp down investigation of her own crimes, I always thought she was weak. The weakness lead to the dirt, but corrupt is corrupt and she has to go. If we’re not willing to take out some of our own in the primaries we’re no better than the do-nothings in congress that we howl about.
EW…Have you looked into this?
Could this be the executive privilege matter before a judge that Mukasey was alluding to in the testimony yesterday…?
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=6189
““Hold letters have been sent to the Ohio Chamber of Commerce, asking them to hold documents relating to their activities to use corporate money to influence the Ohio Supreme Court elections. Another hold letter was sent to U.S. Attorney General Michael Mukasey asking that he advise the federal government to hold emails from Karl Rove.
Arnebeck said “We think [Rove] is an individual who has been at the center of both the use of corporate money to attack state Attorneys General and their elections and candidates for the Supreme Court and their elections in the states, and also in the manipulation of the election process.
“We expressed concern about the reports that Mr. Rove destroyed his emails and suggested that we want the duplicates that should exist [to be put] under the control of the Secret Service and be sure that those are retained, as well as those on the receiving end in the Justice Department and elsewhere, that those documents are retained for purposes of this litigation, in which we anticipate Mr. Rove will be identified as having engaged in a corrupt, ongoing pattern of corrupt activities specifically affecting the situation here in Ohio.”
Arnebeck said they are prepared “to go after the issues of election integrity in a very targeted way, as opposed to a casting of a fishing net. We’re able to do some ‘rifle shots.’”
Along those lines, Arnebeck plans to subpoena and depose GOP operative Michael (Mike) L. Connell, who as described by SourceWatch, is….”
Was this stuff part of Rove’s official duties too? Was the “we have additionally been advised” EP letter from Fielding referring to something related to this?
Um, what exactly does Congress’s Ethics Review Board DO? I’ve never even heard of it before. I’m assuming it’s distinct from the Ethics Committee, which doesn’t do much of anything. As for Goss, he was a Cheney puppet, wasn’t he? What’s he been doing since he marched out of the CIA with panties on his head? Maybe he was having trouble drumming up wingnut welfare, and somebody called in a favor to Nancy to take care of him.
During the Republican Congresses prior to 2006, the last thing the Republicans wanted was any Ethics Review Board. They basically drowned the previously existing ethics review committee in the bathtub, so it is no wonder you haven’t heard of it.
Officially, it’s called the United States House Committee on Standards of Official Conduct .
Bob in HI
Maybe I’m just being overly dense here, but I can’t find anything saying that Goss was re-elected to Congress after resigning from the CIA. The ethics committee is made up of actual Congresscritters, right? Has-beens like Goss can’t sit on Congressional committees, can they?
IIRC, The last committee was gridlocked because, alas, Congress was unable to police itself, nevermind what the Constitution said. So someone came up with the bright idea to subcontract the job to a panel of citizens. Or maybe just the co-chairs. The Goss appointment proves what a bonehead idea that was.
The Wiki article may be out of date. There should be a page on it on the House website.
Bob in HI
Goss has been working his ass off to try to keep from being indicted as a co-conspirator in Dusty Foggo’s mess.
What the hell is up with Pelosi? She has to go…
Here’s the recent history per the Wiki source cited in my 44:
Bob in HI
I’ve wondered for years about “hookergate” – the story the MSM couldn’t ignore enough:
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpoi…..ookergate/
Goss’s factotum Foggo, as noted above, ran a “hospitality suite” for GOP AND Dem congressmen out of the Watergate. Some of the brief flurry on the netroots referrred to an unamed Dem congressman participating in the fun – but only Duke Cunningham was ever implicated in the fun.
But were all the hookers, the Homeland Security limousines, the suites of rooms, all for servicing one fat old man?
To my eyes, the “hospitality suite” seems suspiciously like a “honey trap” operation, in which sexual lures are used to ensnare and blackmail vulnerable targets – one of the bread-and-butter tools of expionage that Goss and Foggo were doubtless very familiar with.
One thing was for sure, there was no investigation in Congress, and no coverage in the NYT
The media’s microscope did not stay on Hookergate long at all You would think our National Enquirer press would be chomping at the bit on this one. Wonder who or why it was shut down
OK, now it’s called the
House Committee on Standards of Official Conduct. The site lists its members here, but there’s nothing about Porter Goss. I wonder if this is a different committee?
Bob in HI
Finally read the link. It looks to me like the thing that Goss was appointed to is sort of a “pre-committee” that can supposedly conduct investigations (though it has no subpoena power to do so) and make recommendations to the real committee. Sounds like welfare for defeated Congresscritters to me.
Kagro is just thrilled with the story.
Yep, Accountability here we come!
Shorter storyline: “Fox, meet henhouse.”
Susan Alexander Kane, without the integrity.
Just shows that gender equality is getting closer – the ‘old boy’s club’ has been expanded to now be the ‘old boy’s and old girl’s club’.
Pelosi is shameful but I’m afraid that Hoyer would be worse.
birds of a feather working wing in wing together. What has Pelosi done (or not done) thus far that Hoyer would have done differently?
Probably not much. One difference (and I may be wrong here) is that she has been closer as part of the Gang of Eight and being on the Intel Committee to whatever back channel deals have been made on eavesdropping, etc. She may have more on a personal basis to cover up than Hoyer.
He is supposed to be a very good organization guy – with having his people in key positions on the Hill and having a lot of chits that he could call in if needed. If he calls them in for the right issues, that would be good, but I’m not sure where he really stands on things that need to be changed in the House.
Has anyone ever actually seen Nancy and Laura Bush in the same room at the same time?
Hmmm. Good question.
Per the WSJ (ht Kagro X), there has been exemplary attention to the smallest details in this matter:
The Speaker and I must compare ragù recipes some day.
WTF???
this is altogether too much like bush appointing henry kissinger to the 9/11 commission.
this merits a HUGE public outcry. it worked to get kissinger kicked off. we should definitely go for it.
Slate’s interactive guide: Who in the Bush administration broke the law, and who could be prosecuted?
In his August 1, 2002 opinion, now Federal Court of Appeals Judge Jay S. Bybee said:
I’m guessing the last redaction relates to reports from the Chinese Communists on their use of these techniques during the Korean War.
I know. It’s SO surprising that the woman who protects Bush by keeping impeachment off the table, who’s known to be complicit in torture, and who allowed the FISA bill to come to the floor so she could protect her own ass and her husband’s profits is now appointing people like Porter Goss to run the Office of Ethics.
Birds of a feather as they say. It’s a pity the first female speaker of the house is so openly and stunnignly corrupt.
Why do progressives love this woman again?
Wucking feird ot from cr, especially after “akerlof” in the halos. Source of that strange calm?
EW, I recently posted evidence, specific to California, but with much broader implications, demonstrating that the press and both major political parties work to reveal or conceal, whatever it is that either promotes their complicit agenda, or impedes it.
My example is in the link at the first google search result to this search request – Gray Davis grandfather ;
http://www.google.com/search?h…..tnG=Search
Out of four prominent political candidates with family patriarchs with Nazi
ties…Bushes, Schwarzenegger, and Davis, only Schwarzenegger asked the Weisenthal center to investigate the activities of his family members.
….and whose family’s Nazi ties were the only ones subjected to vigorous scrutiny and reporting by the press? Pelosi, of course, is part of this “game”. Both parties employ the opposition research made famous by Karl Rove. Rove certainly knew of Gray Davis’s family background, and journalist Maria Schriver is the wife of Davis’s celebrity opponent. The details of Davis’s family background are not something that the political and media establishment wished to publicize. The script during recall 2003, directed Arnold to be the focus of the Nazi bashing, all by his lonesome. The script now calls for Porter Goss to return to the stage.
EW, so much of your work uncovers and describes the complicity of the two parties and the media. All of this, including Obama spectacle, 2008, is simply a distraction to keep the cattle in the pen, not even knowing that they are cattel, until wealth and power concentration “operations” have concluded to the satisfaction of “the men behind the curtain”!
Totally OT, but a wee bit of something for EW in the morning – CREW Asks Court In CREW V. EOP To Schedule Immediate Status Conference:
Nite all!
OT — Witness list for Friday’s HJC hearing is up (via Politico, sorry):
Like, wow.
Who the hell put Vince Bugliosi on this? Jeebus, any famous cluck that has ranted about Bush is welcome or what? I am shocked that David Rivkin didn’t make the list; but, frankly, it looks like this is such a complete joke that the Republicans are not even going to waste their time buggering it up. That is a sure tell that this dog and pony show is a load of staged crap that is going nowhere.
Not yer fave, I know. I’m surprised the rumored official of a US ally (I was guessing Ireland) isn’t listed.
Heh, I should quit carping about him. He is not a bad guy, he is just a loud mouthed blowhard, kind of like the dude on CNBC Jim Cramer. Annoyingly self promoting and bombastic, but harmless. It is just that people are so desperate that they cling to anything, and he is serving up something that is our wet dream; but it is just not viable or realistic and we look like kooks if we adopt it.
Bruce Fein, though. Ought to compensate for VB.
Oh, my guess is Bugliosi will be on good behavior, and it’s not that he never had the skills or position to have some credibility, but he has been Hollywooded so long that it’s hard to find,and he always, even in his heyday, was a bit of a self promoter. He won’t hurt anything. These are huge panels though, and with the lack of intellectual discipline and attention to evidentiary detail of the HJC, I envision this as as a circus that is capable of making the whole effort a joke. I truly hope I am wrong.
Buy Disney…
Kudlow is worse than Cramer.
I’ve been watching the fucker melt down the last few days and
it’s a joy
Shorter Kudlow: Bushie is a genius, economy is growing, and
McCain will be next Prez.
He is such an arshole.
Red Sox v Yanks series opener…
Beer and wine is on the house.
yeah. The witness list wowed me not. Where are the secret suprise witnesses? The suprise high ranking foriegn official? DK fights the fight, but he brings the clowns.
Not like any of this was every going anywhere anyway. Don’t know what it’s going to take to see any real change, or even a little accountability. I think the wolves have realized the sheep are deep,deep asleep. Blood splattered sleeping sheep.
When Paris and brit brit are stars for not keeping panties in place, what shames a politico? Peta’s tougher than congress! But then again toughness isn’t really the problem now is it?
Night all
Vincent is on the same panel as Bruce Fein. I think they will balance one another so long as Vincent doesn’t repeat murder charges against Bush.
agreed
OT — Coverage of the Bybee memos: WaPo – NYT
Neither article mentions that Bybee is now a judge on the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals.
OT – Not to raise hopes in an unnecessarily cruel manner, but I noticed a wee tiny bit o’ smoke on Rove w/r/t Ohio, Blackwell, et alia. Guess we’ll see whether there’s any fire.
i want to spotlight this but i am overwhelmed with choosing the appropriate targets.
suggestions, please?
(i have already dugg.)
As I tried to tell you in post #68 ….if the press could “cover” and voters in California could vote, in two elections, for a candidate with “no family” information offered to voters, or even asked for, in the largest state in the US, and then in a third election…a highly publicized recall contest….then all of it is “up for grabs”…a farce, a “production”…stop sweating the “details”, they aren’t “details”, they are distractions, put out there to distract you:
Google Search results for “Gray Davis Genealogy” =
http://www.google.com/search?h…..tnG=Search ZERO RESULTS !
Google Search results for “George Bush Genealogy” =
http://www.google.com/search?h…..tnG=Search
471 search results.
Google Search results for “schwarzenegger Genealogy”
http://www.google.com/search?h…..38;spell=1
128 search results.
What are the random odds that there are no search results for “Gray Davis Genealogy” ?
What are the odds that both major party candidates in the 2003 California recall election had grandfathers who supported Nazi Germany? What are the odds, that, in the last seven presidential elections, in five out of seven contests, a member of the Bush family has been elected US president or VP, a family with a grandfather with Nazi ties that the press and the opposition political party never reports about, or discusses….
Well, your search term in the link is { “gray davis genealogy” } which will only find that exact phrase, so since it’s an odd phrasing not likely to be found in any text, it’s unsurprising it comes up dry. Try { “gray davis” genealogy } instead, then stuff pops up including Davis’ Wikipedia page complete with the William Rhodes Davis info.
That aside, I don’t quite see your implications hanging together, since it was one of these 3 (The Gubernator) that undertook the recall against one of the others (Davis). Or is you thesis more along the lines of “Warring factions among Nazi Bigshot descendants in Amerikka”?
I posted the wiki update, described as “it was first documented on 7-20-08″, my wiki ID is “Ruidoso”… Look….simply use the google search term, Gray Davis grandfather…no quotation marks…my diary entry is still the first google search result. I’ve searched…exhaustively…there was no disclosure on the internet, re: the fact that Gray Davis’s grandfather is “the”, at the time….circa 1940…the infamous William Rhodes Davis.
I am saying that the press, the republican smear machine, and Gray Davis himself have kept this link from the public, because it suits their mutual agenda……they all calculated that the other factions in “the game”, would not make it public. Thomas E. Mahl had the “balls” to write a book that descibes Sam F Pryor Jr., son of the Prescott Bush’s Samuel F. Pryor, as a “British Agent”, working to get Willkie elected because he was secretly in the British “camp”, even though Sam F Pryor Jr. is described in several earlier books, as the Willkie 1940 campaign eastern region director, and the man who introduced William Rhodes Davis to Willkie….
i have to be honest, this sure seems like it is a pretty stretched and overwrought conspiracy theory. Who are “they”?
I started my “inquiry” by looking into how the Jupiter Island, FL “community” of wealthiest families in the US/World, along with their public “gophers”, the Bushes, Robert Lovett, Du Pont’s Walter Carpenter, Remington-UMC’s Samuel F. Pryor, William Donovan, David Bruce, the Dulles brothers, were publicly linked in news reports of congressional hearings, society announcements, obituaries, PBS shows, the officil History of the CIA, etc….and I inadvertently came upon, last weekend, my discovery that Gray Davis was hiding his grandfather, and the repubs and the press must be helping him do it….it’s intriguing…Samuel F. Pryor bought Jupiter Island, circa 1930, and until the ’90’s, his daughter Permelia Pryor Reed determined who got to buy land/homes there…Clarence Dillon, Edsel Ford, the Harriman’s, Paul Mellon. They’ve run the country….from the OSS to the CIA….Robert Lovett sat in on JFK’s Cuban missled crisis ex-comm meetings….and he chaired the committee that created the CIA…revealed only in 1989…. it either grabs you, or it doesn’t….oh yeah!!! Sam F. Pryor Jr. gave Goering medal wearing Charles Lindbergh, his 5 acres at Hana, Hawaii…the two were life long friends, and they’re buried yards from each other. It’s easy to be labeled a “wack…a paranoid, a conrpiracy theorist”….except that it’s all backed by the facts….
I hope you are putting this in book or PDF form. Do you recall the sociological experiment which I believe was dubbed “The Atlanta Experiment”? It’s the one where people in the general community are asked to name who they think are the power brokers and most influential folks in their community. Then, you take that list and go ask listed parties the same question. Eventually, the list shortens to an agreement among a very short list about who has to be on the even shorter list of “most influential”.
In this general way, you seem to be doing the experiment, but by following the “public record” of who’s who.
There is only one US major political party, folks….and it has two right wings….here, eat some feed… nice cattle !
Kucinich on Washington Journal right now
http://www.c-span.org/watch/cs…..38;Code=CS
Cindy can be an effective protest vote, but nothing else. She is not a credible candidate. We need to recruit, promote, an elect a replacement for Pelosi who can truly represent “San Francisco Values”
A brief step back in time:
…erm, poker? So coy. And such a genius!
Cindy is certainly a “credible” candidate.
What other Rep has sacrificed their child for the lies that the war was based on? Cindy is far more credible than most of our Reps….far more!
–and I don’t mean to say Pelosi’s Dad was not a Dem. I think he was. Only that the political discourse and contacts may be older that those she has or her husband has.
Another connection to Goss:
Oh, didn’t realize this, but they were chairman and vice chairman of the
House Intelligence Committee, Congressman Porter Goss and Congresswoman
Nancy Pelosi, respectively, in 2003, when the JOINT INTELLIGENCE REPORT POST-9/11 was thrown together by the House and Senate. Very cozy. Do you know cozy?
This is another example of Pelosi’s unbelievable lack of morals. How could she appoint someone known to be a criminal. One they have nailed for crimes at the CIA and in his other tasks? Why would anyone that isn’t a criminal, nominate someone that works for a criminal?
this is so disgusting that one can only hope she is bounced both by Sheehan, or at least removed from a post that she clearly has no credentials to keep. Traitor.
Brief and to the point:
Code Pink protesters disrupt Pelosi Netroots talk.
OMG! How f—-d are we?
Would someone from Blue America or netroots hug fest say why they aren’t supporting Cindy Sheehan against Peosi?
Cindy Sheehan is not a Democrat, she is running as an Independent. Blue America is all about electing Dems.