Jerry Doe “Proved Fucking Right”
[That’s a Judy Miller quote, btw, not me actually, um, swearing.]
Joby Warrick reports that Jerry Doe, a former CIA operative who warned that Iraq had no active nuclear program but was told to bury that warning, also warned that Iran had set aside its own program.
A former CIA operative who says he tried to warn the agency about faulty intelligence on Iraqi weapons programs now contends that CIA officials also ignored evidence that Iran had suspended work on a nuclear bomb.
Now, he’s trying to get key paragraphs from his complaint against the CIA for wrongful dismissal unredacted so he can prove that the intelligence he was directed to bury turned out to be correct.
There are a few interesting details about this revelation. As Warrick notes, we have known for years that Doe claimed to have warned the CIA that Iraq had stopped its nuclear program. Doe reported, among other things, that there were Iraqi centrifuge parts available in the arms market. But Doe is now claiming that some of the intelligence he provided pertained to Iran, as well. (He refers to one more country in his complaint: Doe is a fluent Arabic and Farsi speaker, so I invite you to place your bets on whether the third country is Syria, Libya, or Pakistan, accordingly. I’m putting $5 on Syria, with a side bet of $2 on Pakistan.)
But there’s another interesting bit, if you put together Warrick’s story and the motion to have key paragraphs from his complaint unredacted.
Warrick quotes Doe’s lawyer, Roy Krieger, as saying that key paragraphs in Doe’s complaint should no longer remain sealed because what those paragraphs reveal was declassified in last year’s Iran NIE.
The consensus view on Iran’s nuclear program shifted dramatically last December with the release of a landmark intelligence report that concluded that Iran halted work on nuclear weapons design in 2003. The publication of the National Intelligence Estimate on Iran undermined the CIA’s rationale for censoring the former officer’s lawsuit, said his attorney, Roy Krieger. [my emphasis]
And Friday’s motion lists the actual paragraphs that–extrapolating from Krieger’s claim–may pertain to Iran. The most interesting of those paragraphs (aside from paragraph 25, which is almost entirely redacted) are paragraphs 21 and 22:
21. Plaintiff was first subjected to a demand that he alter his intelligence reporting in 2000, [2 lines redacted]. Plaintiff reported this information via formal CIA cable channels. Plaintiff was subsequently advised by CIA management that his report did not support the earlier assessment [one line redacted] and instructed that if he did not alter his report to support this assessment it would not be received well by the intelligence community. Plaintiff was aware that earlier reporting underlying the assessment was less-than-genuine and refused to alter his report. As the result, CIA/DO/CPD refused to disseminate his report to the intelligence community despite Plaintiff’s efforts.
22. In 2001, Plaintiff met with a highly respected human asset [3 lines redacted]. Plaintiff immediately reported this information to his supervisor who in-turn met with CIA/DO/CPD management. Plaintiff was later instructed that he should prepare no written report of the matter and that the Deputy Director of Operations ("DDO"), Defendant Pavitt, together with the Chief of CIA/DO/CPD, Defendant John Doe No. 1, would personally brief the President. Upon information and belief, Plaintiff avers that no such briefing ever occurred and therefore the President was misled by the withholding of vital intelligence. Subsequently, in 2002, Defendant John Doe No. 1 advised Plaintiff that his promotion to GS-15 and receipt of the Special Intelligence Medal had been approved by Defendant Pavitt but were being withheld until Plaintiff removed himself from further handling this asset.
Now, I’m a little bit confused here, because Friday’s motion asks to have every paragraph specifically referring to the collection of intelligence declassified, so I’m not entirely convinced that both these paragraphs pertain to Iran (though if Krieger’s claim that all these paragraphs can be declassified because of the NIE, then perhaps the central allegation in the suit is that Doe was ousted because of his Iran intelligence). But paragraph 21 probably refers to Iran or the third country, since Doe’s Iraq intelligence refuted a change in IC opinion that took place later (that is, it showed that, contrary to a new conclusion developed around 2001, Iraq was not reconstituting its nuclear program).
But if these paragraphs refer to Iran, as Krieger suggests they do, then it suggests Iran was backing off its nuclear program earlier than 2003. More importantly, it suggests that Doe considered the underlying assessment as "less-than-genuine."
I wonder on what basis he had that judgment?
Interesting this was kept so low profile during Plame…
We’ve got an intel war internally…
Let me qualify that “low profile” with “by the MSM.” I realize you were on this EW back in 2006 and had a great post about his earlier legal dealings with his employer.
As you said:
“Valerie was not the only one.”
http://thenexthurrah.typepad.c…..n_doe.html
If the content in the graphs were declassified in last year’s NIE, couldn’t Valerie confirm (to the media) what the redacted content states based on the NIE content?
Thanks for the link to the 2006 post, which, by the way, featured this funny emptywheel comment in the thread:
I asked who was already busy suppressing intelligence in 2000, and the post gives partial suggestions.
I don’t think it’s particularly relevant, but there’s some precedent for vice presidents getting their mitts in intelligence reports — I remember Gore’s “bullshit” appraisal of a CIA report on Viktor Chernomyrdin. More relevantly, “regime change” was already our policy back then and neocons had already had cabinet level positions under Clinton.
Thanks for reminding me about all that Plamoney I’ve got to spend. There’s also the bunch I got for developing the theory (along with Jeff) that Dick Cheney had ordered Libby to leak Plame’s ID. And the bunch I got for predicting that Libby and Novak had an unrevealed conversation the week of the leak.
Damn. I’m going to go put a deposit down on somekind of Plamobile–maybe a sports car or something.
I have seen what happens when you get a new appliance. What results from the acquisition of a new Plameborghini?
Is that a Sears brand Plameborghini?
I forsee a convertible PT Cruiser in your future. Ha!
Who was making this demand of Doe in 2000? Tenet? Clinton?
Highly respected human asset with CPD?
Wouldn’t Pakistan be Urdu?
Yeah, that’s why only my side bet was on Pakistan.
Though Pakistan’s network was run largely out of the UAE after the US got cranky about Pakistan’s nukes, so the Arabic would give you something there.
It’s clear this guy was, at a minimum, working one arms dealer, so who knows.
Urdu is the main language of Pakistan, but in the border frontier area, the dominant population is Pashtun, so Pashtu would be the main language in that area, as it is in adjacent Afghanistan.
Bob in HI
2000 is titillating to me too. This would have been in advance of Cheney assuming the mantle and possible even before the election. So who high in CIA wanted war?
Or has there always been a cadre of PNAC in the Intel community?
Think it is fascinating that the Project for a New American Century’s website is down. For years I have been sending people there so that they can read the “regime change” plans for themselves.
These anonymous parties ought to be named Doh!
Thanks ew.
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A little O/T but related. Juan Cole writes:
http://www.juancole.com/
What Cole said.
Judy “I was fucking right” Miller should be in prison for her complicity in the run up to the invasion of Iraq. This woman is drowning in blood.
Former Un Weapons Inspector Scott Ritter has said that there are questions as to whether Iran was ever pursuing nuclear weapons
http://www.inteldaily.com/?c=173&a=7254
“We’re going to see some military activity before the new administration is sworn in.” Ritter said. But he added that “Iran is not a threat to the United States and Iran is not pursuing a nuclear weapons program. That’s documented.” Ritter teamed up with the Los Angeles-based U.S. Tour of Duty’s Real Intelligence, a nonprofit organization that represents former intelligence officials who openly discuss domestic and foreign policy issues. Ritter went on the road nearly a year ago to promote his recently published book, Waging Peace: The Art of War for the Antiwar Movement. But over the past several months, issues related to Iran have dominated his discussions.
In a wide-ranging interview with The Public Record, Ritter said he has been keeping close tabs on the issue for years and continues to approach the issue as if he were still employed as an intelligence officer. He explained why he believes the U.S. is gearing up toward launching a military strike in Iran and how the media has misrepresented a recent report by the International Atomic Energy Association (IAEA) regarding Iran’s continued enrichment of uranium.
AIPAC
He said one of the reasons he believes Democratic lawmakers have been reluctant to address the issue is the powerful Israeli lobby, such as the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC). AIPAC has been pressuring the Bush administration to be even tougher on Iran. The lobby is largely responsible for drafting a resolution calling for stricter inspections and harsher economic sanctions against the country, which is expected to be voted on by the House next week.
Resolution 362 introduced by Congressman Gary Ackerman, a New York Democrat, has 170 Democratic and Republican co-sponsors.
The bill “demands that the president initiate an international effort to immediately and dramatically increase the economic, political, and diplomatic pressure on Iran to verifiably suspend its nuclear enrichment activities by, inter alia, prohibiting the export to Iran of all refined petroleum products; imposing stringent inspection requirements on all persons, vehicles, ships, planes, trains, and cargo entering or departing Iran; and prohibiting the international movement of all Iranian officials not involved in negotiating the suspension of Iran’s nuclear program.”
The resolution calls on President Bush to impose “stringent inspection requirements on all persons, vehicles, ships, planes, trains, and cargo entering or departing Iran”
Ritter says AIPAC’s involvement in Iran policy is partially the reason Democrats have not been been willing to take a stand against the Bush administration’s hard-line tactics toward Iran.
“Congress has linked Iran policy to Israel. In this day and age of presidential politics no one wants to take on the Israeli lobby. That’s just the facts,” Ritter said. “You have to find a way to address this issue that sidesteps Israel. Some people may object to that. On the other hand, if you couch this thing in economic terms I think you now empower Congress to address this issue in a manner that sidesteps Israel.”
Last week, a Senate committee approved legislation to strengthen sanctions against Iran by restricting the import of Iranian carpets, caviar, and nuts to the United States.
“The strong sanctions we’ve approved today will work to deter the Iranian government from producing a nuclear weapon,” said Sen. Max Baucus, D-Montana, chairman of the Senate Finance Committee.
Ritter said the public would likely become more outspoken on the Bush administration’s policies toward Iran if they understood how an attack on Iran could lead to an economic collapse here at home.
The bit about withholding a performance citation/medal and a promotion is telling. The analyst – one of our few intelligence experts who spoke Arabic and Farsi, the kind Doug Feith refused to employ at his DoD intelligence [sic] shop because they might know too much (the epitome of Bush’s style) – couldn’t have either one unless he stopped “managing” a source who was coming up with information the boys back home didn’t want to hear.
If that self-imposed blindness is how they manage our risks – ie, putting managing Cheney and Rumsfeld’s wants ahead of managing external physical threats – then how small a step was it to out one of their own covert agents, Plame, a specialist on something as trivial as WMD who had developed her own network of sources?
One department of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission we desperately need – which Put-It-All-Behind-Us President
FordObama will predictably refuse to establish – is an employment division. We’ll need it to clean up the hundreds or thousands of unfair dismissals Cheney and Bush and their pack of lobbyist/agency heads will have dropped in their heated scurrying through the halls of government.The reason the IC finally gave up on the idea that Iran was pursuing nukes was a sigint intercept that recorded an Iranian official complaining that the military nuke program was stopped ‘years ago’. The IC put the date at 2003 because of the ‘laptop of death’. If the ‘laptop of death’ was bogus, the 2003 date is suspect; the Iranian military nuke program might have been stopped even earlier.
Here’s an alternate scenario. The Iranian military nuclear program started during the Iran-Iraq war. Unable to win the war outright and believing that Iraq was looking to build its own bomb, the Iranians started looking for help developing a nuke. In 1987, they found A.Q. Khan. The Iranians had good reason, from their point of view, to keep up this program, at least until the first Gulf War. During the mid to late ’90s, the program was converted to a peaceful nuclear program (according to the Iranians). Because it was started out of an illegal (under the NPT) program, the Iranians were reluctant to own up to it.
You have to look at both the Iraqi and Iranian nuclear programs in the context of their bitter, life and death struggle for regional hegemony. That’s certainly the way a good covert intel operation would have looked at it. As the Iraqi threat receded, the Iranian program would have become an albatross around the Iranian government’s neck. I can see John Doe’s sources telling him about both programs winding down in the late ’90s. This would have been seen as dangerous in the CIA’s DO for a number of reasons, not all of them having to do with national politics. Many of the hard-liners in the DO would have wanted to keep this information out of the hands of the analytical side of the agency precisely because it would have made so much sense. That would have made the hard-liners look bad to the policy makers.
Sound speculation all around. The book Nuclear Jihadist dates the beginning of Iran’s renewed quest to 1985-87–though it says they first got hooked up with AQ Khan’s network in search of conventional weapons.
This comment about sigint intercepts is a reminder of another instance of neocons subverting our intelligence: Chalabi.
Would it be out of the realm of possibility that Chalabi was playing both Iraq and Iran to the US?
“Out of the realm of possibility”? Heh, yeah, and into the realm of certainty.
This may or may not have been linked here at EW previously, but here is the Iran Nuclear Report dated 6/23/08 via Laura via Aftergood.
See #15:
I’m jumping to the conclusion that they didn’t want intelligence like this getting in the way again.
Were these intercepts in any way linked to the intercepts that were being demanded by Senators Biden, Dodd, Kennedy, Boxer, Kerry, Lincoln Chaffee during the John Bolton nomination hearings ? The intercepts that John Bolton’s “allegedly’ had accessed having to do with Colin Powells conversations/negotiations with Iran.
Did they ever get access to those intercepts?
Sidney Blumenthals article about this issue
http://dir.salon.com/story/opi…..s_revenge/
OT?- on Austin’s Scott Horton radio now
http://www.kaosradioaustin.org/
The Show: Gareth Porter and Seymour Hersh
Gareth Porter and Seymour Hersh will be the featured guests on the Scott Horton Show at Antiwar Radio, Tuesday, July 1.
Gareth Porter will be discussing his recent articles on Antiwar.com, “Fear of U.S.-Sunni Ties Undercut Security Talks,” “Anti-Iran Arguments Belie Fearmongering,” and the anti-Iran resolutions in Congress at 12:15PM Eastern.
Update: Robert Parry of ConsortiumNews.com will join us at 1:30pm Eastern to discuss, Iran-Contra’s ‘Lost Chapter.’
Seymour Hersh will be discussing his article in the upcoming issue of The New Yorker, “Preparing The Battlefield: The Bush Administration steps up its secret moves against Iran” at 1:15PM Eastern.
Dr. Gareth Porter is an investigative historian and journalist on U.S. national security policy who has been independent since a brief period of university teaching in the 1980s. Dr. Porter is the author of four books, the latest of which is Perils of Dominance: Imbalance of Power and the Road to War in Vietnam. He has written regularly for Inter Press Service on U.S. policy toward Iraq and Iran since 2005.
Seymour Hersh is an American Pulitzer Prize winning investigative journalist and author based in Washington, D.C. He is a regular contributor to The New Yorker magazine on military and security matters. Hersh’s work first gained worldwide recognition in 1969 for exposing the My Lai Massacre and its cover up during the Vietnam War, for which he received the 1970 Pulitzer Prize for International Reporting. His 2004 reports on the U.S. military mistreatment on detainees at Abu Gharib Prison gained much attention. Since 2005, Hersh has reported on U.S. plans for conflict with Iran.
Scott Horton will appear as a guest on the Tom Goodrich Show on KMAJ 1440 Talk Radio in Topeka, Kansas on Thursday, July 3, at 7:30am Central Time.
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thanks !
stumbled upon Parry’s article just yesterday. will be wonderful to hear him talk about it.
How about asking our Reps to put together a hearing on Iran and the claims being made by the Bush administration and Aipac. Ask them to host Former Weapons Inspector Scott Ritter, Joseph Cirincione, throw Bolton on the panel for some lies and a member of the team that put together the latest National Intelligence Estimate on Iran to the panel.
Would El Baradei come to such a hearing.
You think about the huge amount of time being spent investigating the pre-war intelligence the Robb Silberman Phase I of the SSCI and finally the complete Phase II of the SSCI. (all part of their responsibility to hold people accountable) We know Congress did not investigate thoroughly before the illegal invasion of Iraq. Will they do so now in regard to the endless amount of repeated claims having to do with Iran’s “alleged” nuclear weapons program.
Or will they continue to sign on to warmongering legislation pushed by Aipac and the other folks who want a military confrontation with Iran? So far it looks like they will keep signing on
Investigate the Iranian claims now. Which Committee would be in charge of such a pre-emptive hearing on the claims being repeated about Iran
Just a note about Gross’ show yesterday with Seymour Hersh. A close friend I have been sharing so much of the information from here with, has, in the past, been only marginally moved by the information and has tended to play devils advocate with me and would lean towards the “lefty dfh bloggers” view of the information.
After listening to Hersh on Terry Gross, my friend had a sudden revelation and total outburst of anger about where our country is going. They even went out to buy the New Yorker.
Got a call this morning with an apology for not taking any information I was sharing from here seriously. Friend is now lurking to catch up on many years of turning a deaf ear. Wants the bums out and cannot believe the poor role Congress has played in all of this. I explained Pixie Dust and Unitary Executive practices have not made things any easier…
Eventually, we will all see that the emperor is wearing no clothes. I can’t decide whether blindness following would be an advantage or a disadvantage. At this point peeking through my fingers about costs me my lunch on a daily basis, but for some reason I just keep peeking.
I hope that seeing bushco naked can come to a positive end. I’d hate to think it’s all been for nothing.
“we will all see”
don’t think so. Most americans are semi-comatose with their pedals to the metals driving to the malls
Well, perhaps I should have stated “suffering the consequences” because I agree. Folks are not looking to the horizon, but someday the consequences may become so dire and obvious that most of us do “see” it, even if it’s too late.
Some may not ‘get it’ ’til it reaches their chins, but for those what care to notice, it’s halfway up their shins, wavpeac.
;~D
Make sure to tell your friend to skip the articles by Goldberg, Packer, Remnick…
and all of this surprises you how? Reminder. Chalabi was/is an agent of influence for Iran. His work will go down in history as the greatest intel coup in history.-1-got govt in Iraq(Iran had fought an 8 year war) removed 2-got a pro Iran shia govt-installed no less than by the US.3- became a regional power because of Saddam’s removal by US. Chalabi and Iran played the US like a trout on a line. 3 run 3 hit, no errors. final score Iran 3 US 0.
OT – “Delayed” Rand Report for the US Army on Prewar Planning and the Occupation of Iraq now available online.
Full Report (273 page PDF) here.
Summary Report (17 page PDF) here.
Thank god it wasn’t really you cussing ; ) See how those neocons are??
You are way too quick for me Bmaz. Of course I was well aware of that from your posts. Do I owe you a coke if I was about to post the same thing?
Stephen does dig up some really informative reports. I am an ardent supporter of his work.
If i drank any more Coke, I would explode; I live on the stuff (probably die from it too). Thank you anyway.
Major kudos from Glenn Greenwald to bmaz! Hooooraaaaayyyyy!!!
Very cool bmaz!
Well deserved. And nice to see.
Sweet, Bmaz
Thanks, but I simply stated the obvious.
The most revolting part is the implication that CIA operatives had to assimilate to the Borg of Bush adm propaganda or be out in the cold.
Off topic, but too intriguing to ignore. No less of a worthy than James K. Galbraith asks Is the GOP cooking the books to avoid recession till after Election Day?
Nice Shout-out from Glenzilla.
Not KO’s finest hour. At least he seemed to back off teh crazy a bit. Hopefully Dean or Turley can walk this back a bit on KO’s show. Like, tonight would be nice.
Spencer is upstairs.
uly 1, 2008
Neocons Stay on Message
http://www.antiwar.com/orig/gi…..leid=13068
One arms merchant in the news around the end of the 2 I’s war is profiled as a jetset person at The Guardian, Khashoggi, with a link on that short biography page to Guardian’s BAE scandal webpage. Don’t know if JudyJ flies them circles or simply pays her fare from ample lecture honoraria.
Could there be a connection between Judy, Richard Perle, Khashoggi, and Ahmed Chalabi?
Would that be a circle that she would in?
Together, Again
Judith Miller and Ahmad Chalabi.
By Jack Shafer
http://www.slate.com/id/2112900/
Absolutely. Richard Perle was one of the first people who set her on her path of crappy reporting. And she was practically living with Chalabi during her reporting from Iraq–and had been fed key stories by him leading up to the war.
Wondering when Keith Olberman or Chris Matthews will invite Former Weapons inspector Scott Ritter on to discuss the endlessly repeated claims by Aipac and the Bush administration about a nuclear weapons program?
How about Joseph Cirincione or Iaea’s Mr. El Baradei on their programs to discuss Iran.
Nuclear weapons program in Iran?
so now we have documentation, unequivical, that the president and/or sorrogates deliberately altered inteligence that told us in no uncertain terms the case for war was false
let me repeat;
deliberately altered by this administration to lie us into war
any other president would have been impeached for this alone, yet the table remains baren
OT: The NY Appeals judge threw out the Arar rendition suit.
I tried posting a link from the NY Times, but it kept breaking the link.
OT, but I just saw that Darcy Burner’s house burned this morning. link
EW, am getting a 404 error on the link to your Ghorbanifar Timeline.
But FWIW, this post sure seems like it must be relevant to your Chorbanifar Timeline, so I was trying to double-check the timing of activity related to:
(1) Porter Goss,
(2) the Wilkes/Foggo investigation, and
(3) Colin Powell’s efforts to ensure that John Bolton did not become Amb. to U.N.
Somehow, all those elements must tie in to the Ghorbanifar Timeline.
Someone (klynn?) linked to prior posts of yours (May 06, TNH). Several names keep cropping up that seem relevant to this post:
– Porter Goss, which links to Dusty Foggo,
– Dusty Foggo links to Mitchell Wade,
– Mitchell Wade links to ‘the Dukestir’ Cunningham (House Armed Services Appropriations + House Intell Appropriations — all Financial Black Holes with very little oversight).
– Dukestir’s black ops corruption and funding seem to link to FISA somehow, though I’m damned if I can figure out quite how (other than $$ for spying, as well as keeping the technologies out of public view).
In addition: Mitchell Wade’s contract employees did/do a lot of of the US spying at NTCT, which raises some interesting issues related to Cheney’s Secret Government.
Was Cheney able to use the surveillance system in ways that others weren’t?
(The Salon link on this thread links to an old Blumenthal article that raises some interesting issues about the whole notion of ‘domestic spying’, and how the neocons used it to subvert Colin Powell. To wit:
– John Bolton had requested (and obtained) NSA intercepts of Powell’s communications. How on earth did John Bolton purloin intercepts of the Sec of State…?
– John Bolton is a Cheney underling.
– Did Cheney have a key role in getting those intercepts handed off to Bolton?
– Did Cheney have some kind of access to the system that even the Congress didn’t know about? (After all, Duke was too busy boinking his brains out with hookers**. )
– John Bolton used the intercepts to sabotage Powell’s efforts to build relationships with Iran, Syria, and North Korea.
– 2003 SOTU defines “Axis of Evil” = Iran, Syria, and North Korea.
– 2003 SOTU ‘Axis of Evil’ synchs with timing of Plame ‘outing’ and Jerry Doe ‘firing’.
– Which leads me to a really stupid question, but here goes: we know, via Clemons, that Cheney is mighty pissed about the recent deal with North Korea — but since, North Korea has very little to do with oil — but plenty to do with ‘nukes’ — the whole dustup and neocon wrath over North Korea might lend more credence to claims made by Sybil Edmunds, wouldn’t they…? But I digress…)
So what are the odds that the black ops funding through the House Intell Committee provided some sort of Surveillance Financing Loophole through which Cheney got whatever the hell he wanted?
– Mitchell Wade ‘provided office equipment’ for Cheney’s OVP, correct?
– Mitchell Wade had the contract for hiring ‘contractors’ to listen in on all of us…?
– What else have I missed on Mitchell Wade…? (And has Glenzilla ever looked into this…?)
The number of loop-de-loops going on with all the private-contractors-as-black-ops-specialists, intersecting with Congressional corruption, intersecting with subversion of DoD (via OSP, which was a Cheney-enabled parasite), and intersecting with problems at CIA (which seems to overlap with old House Intell Committee employees known as “Gosslings”) is just dizzying….
The Old Hands at CIA appear to have been ‘fighting back’ at Porter Goss and his ‘Gosslings’ — evidently, they were 5 guys who followed Porter Goss over from Capital Hill.
Where they had staffed the House Intell Committee.
Which leads us in yet another recursive loop back to House Intell Committee = Duke Cunningham = Mitchell Wade = Dusty Foggo….[?? = FISA…?]
Addenda:
Was Porter Goss CIA DIrector at the time the torture tapes were destroyed…?
Was Robert Grenier fired b/c he refused to participate in torture?
How involved was Goss in helping Cheney build the financial infrastructure in the late 1990s, early 2000 that would have been required in order to move black ops, intel, spying, and hiring out of Congressional oversight?
This process seems to have accelerated between the mid-1980s and the late 1990s. (Cheney had been on House Intell in the early 1980s during Iran-Contra, hadn’t he? And Goss probably came on it in the later 1980s…? Or early 1990s…? And he was former CIA.)
** Imagine if you will: Dukestir boinking Tatiana, who’s also boinking Vladimir on the side, who then reports to Abdul, who both ‘contract’ for Mitchell Wade, who ‘plays poker with’**** Porter Goss, who works for Cheney…. or maybe Tatiana also moonlights for ‘Vlodya” Putin.
Hell, maybe both Tatiana and Vladimir were ‘contracting’ for Jack Abramoff… who knows?
Hey, if I’m on to a storyline hear, Hollywood agents feel free to email, cause Plamoney isn’t going to put my nephews through college, if you know what I mean.
**** ‘plays poker with’ : American phrase, Late 19th, early 20th c. Polite term for ‘bribe’ under the guise of playing ‘poker‘ in which the person who seeks government contracts appears to lose large sums of money to drunk/incompetent Congressmen. Form of financial boinking.******
****** boinking: See also: prostitution, esp. ’sexual’.