The Flying Fur At OSC
Many of you have been asking many different questions about the OSC kerfluffle. I am fairly deep into this now and hope to have a serious piece ready by tonight. Unfortunately, day job and spring family responsibilities (there’s a different school concert every night!) keep intruding. Tomorrow, there is actually one I am looking forward to; I get to help chaperone my daughter’s class field trip to tour, learn about and see in action the county courthouse.
Back to the OSC mess. This is just a short post to run by all of you my current thoughts and ask you to post in comments any links to new and probative information you have run across (for other topics too if they are really noteworthy). So, here goes.
Bloch appears to be a bit of a nondescript, but deeply religious, party level toady that they pulled out of the mid-west, to serve as Associate Director and then Deputy Director and Counsel to the Task Force for Faith-based and Community Initiatives at the U.S. Department of Justice. (Why exactly is there even such an office in the DOJ at all???). The Bushies then wanted to plug a Regent like theobot toady into the OSC, and decided Bloch fit the bill. Bloch then went about doing his job, which was effectively to do nothing and fill up the ranks with incompetent theobot types, just like they were doing all over the government and, as we know so well, especially the DOJ. But Bloch got a little ham fisted in his efforts to weed his office of teh gay in the process, which caused an amount of scrutiny and heat.
About that time, Bloch’s office started being forced into relevance because of all the Hatch Act violations and other things that the Bushies have done to create whistleblowers that are supposed to fall under Bloch’s office’s parameters. This created a confluence of events for Bloch; he morally/religiously really believes in his purge of teh gay and, just maybe, he actually has some moral convictions on the impropriety of much of the Bushco creed. So, he starts actually doing his job on the Bushco ills, just a little, both because he knew there were ills and to push back and protect himself for what he had done. Picture a John DiIulio and/or David Kuo that, instead of just leaving, stayed and fought.
Because of the Rove, Doan, and then the USA Purgegate scandals, this little internecine battle erupted into the public consciousness, and neither side backed off. Bloch was preparing some stinging reports that would really be a poke in the eye to the Bushies, and they wanted to squelch those. The Bushies determined that it would be necessary to take out Bloch, but they didn’t want it to be alleged that they did it to cover and protect Lurita "Cookies" Doan and wanted it to look like they did it for cause against Bloch. So they cooked Doan (she was a pain in the ass anyway by then, so no loss to them) as a preemptory strike in preparation for going after Bloch. Then, they went after Bloch to put the kabosh, as much as they can, on his reports on Bushco. And that is where we are at now.
Again, this is just my best take on it so far. Please give your feedback and criticism, and especially your tips, news cites and thoughts. Bloch is not a sympathetic character in many regards, I would prefer not to be concerned with him; but I think this little sideshow is likely a fairly important cog in the greater scheme of what we do here, so we need to get a grip on it and put a stop to the Bushco power play that is in process. Thanks folks.
UPDATE: Here is a document fro POGO entitled "Summary of Task Force Activities and Recommendations” dated January 18, 2008. Extremely interesting, it details the various high profile cases of the OSC and the task force that was working on them. Sure paints schizophrenic picture of the office, Bloch and the task force. None of them look particularly good to me, but the task force, overall, probably comes off best. Take a look at it.
Hat tip to Phred for this reference!
Mirror game:
Published claims against Bloch from multiple sources and a few sundry relevant facts:
1. Bloch retaliated against employees who favored equal protection based on sexual orientation by reassigning them to Detroit.
2. That Bloch obstructed justice by erasing his hard drive and that of two subordinates and was using government computers for personal matters.
3. Lorita Doan is gone.
Through the looking glass:
1. Bloch was investigating BushCo retaliation against US Attorney’s by firing these attorneys for failing to politicize their offices (is Alice Fisher implicated here?).
2. Bloch was investigating BushCo failure to maintain digital records.
3. Bloch was investigating Hatch Act violations by Doan and others pertaining to the politicization of executive agencies.
It’s all so Rovian. Isn’t it interesting that leaks concerning the “Raid” are sewn up so tightly. State secret probably.
And Maryo2 – that is all part and parcel of the little scenario I suggested and fits in exactly, at least I think it does. JT’s sequence of events and battles is all precisely what I saw and had in mind, along with Maryo2’s bit on Bloch being a guy that stands and fights. All precisely what I am suggesting.
F/U for you: As of this afternoon, Addington and his Patron Saint Cheny the Cheny who secretly overrates himself as Cheney’s Addington is fighting the HJC subpoena and vows of course, not to testify. He prefers the passive “no show” approach instead of the active approach crafted by Gonzales coming into the hearing and shooting Conyers a bird and refusing to answer questions (even though as AG, Gonzales brought not a scintilla of a second of federal litigation experience taking a cue from many of Bush and Clinton’s apointees to the federal appellate bench.
Your post comment-67678″>on the thread last night was extremely well written, but I would point out as a clinical medical matter, torturing to the point of organ damage/or death is a nebulous prospect because in addition to the questionable quality of information gathered during torture, tryng for the brass ring of “organ failure” by people not medically trained or medicially trained is an absurd clinical medical proposition, and pushing that envelop in many individuals would end up with an irreversibly comatose subject/ or patient as the case may be.
Sorry, I’m link challenged. I was tyring to link to your post here.
Whooops! Update City. Addington’s Counsel (counsel to Cheney’s counsel) Katheryn Wallberger now alleges he will testify. And nothing makes me grin more (well Jeralyn Merritt’s desperate posts all during last night did) but almost nothing makes me grin more than the invocation of comity from Cheney’s office:
See their reply here:
Addkington’s Attorney Asserts he may testify although he doesn’t have to–it’s about da comity (and comedy)
In this case I think the definition of comity and comedy come close.
Could you do me a huge favor and point to a source regarding point 1., the transfer of folks to Detroit? Thanks.
Rayne here is one that i had pulled in the last day or so working on this.
http://oversight.house.gov/doc…..-35285.pdf
This exchange shows Bloch to be a fighter:
“When [Rep. Tom] Davis (R-VA) continued to press the issue, Bloch said, “If you want to exchange personal attacks, maybe we should go outside.””
http://www.fcw.com/online/news/103218-1.html
Bloch back-tracked immediately after this statement, but imagine how he talks to underlings who disagree with him.
“The Bushies determined that it would be necessary to take out Bloch, but they didn’t want it to be alleged that they did it to cover and protect Lurita “Cookies” Doan and wanted it to look like they did it for cause against Bloch.”
I disagree with this statement because they don’t give a rat’s rear about keeping up appearances of propriety or anyone’s opinion about their protecting Doan. Their desire to have it appear to be for cause against Bloch has to do with not appearing to protect somebody else. (probably Rove, but I still think that Doan gave a port contract to a Cheney friend who for some reason was not qualified to receive that contract. It’s the contract(s), not the appearances, and not Rove’s Hatch Act violations.)
Well, we shall just disagree then; and that is okay. But I think Bloch’s submitted report had put them on the defensive about Doan and Rove a bit, and Doan was becoming a pain in the ass too. They didn’t have to get rid of Doan to go after Bloch, but i think it definitely made it a bit cleaner, and was convenient for other reasons too; so they bounced her. It was not only about Bloch, but perhaps that was indeed the final critical part of the decision.
bmaz — just a quick driveby to point you to a new post up at TPMM. Apparently POGO got hold of a document that shows Bloch’s investigations of others was done to protect himself by creating a conflict of interest. Nice, huh? So he slow walks any real investigation of people like Doan and pretends to be doing his job in order to prevent others from coming after him. You gotta give him credit, he’s clearly got more brains than Gonzo, Schlozman, or Goodling combined. Granted, that’s not saying much…
bmaz here’s what CREW has up:
http://citizensforethics.org/node/31572
and here at POGO
http://www.pogo.org/p/governme…..7-osc.html
I think it fits in exactly, too. And it makes this more interesting. Bloch fought back – against Rove (Mr. I will f&^%$ him like he has never been F&^%#d before). And the man took computer files! Gorgeous. A religious guy with a law degree who didn’t drink the koolaid but witnessed the actions of many who did.
He was kicking butt …. and taking names.
Inspector General
Photo of Patrick E. McFarland
Patrick E. McFarland
Patrick McFarland has been the Inspector General of the Office of Personnel Management since August 1990. He provides leadership that is independent, non-partisan and objective in the pursuit of waste, fraud, abuse and mismanagement in programs administered by OPM. McFarland is a member of the President’s Council on Integrity and Efficiency and chairman of the council’s Investigations Committee. In 22 years with the U.S. Secret Service, he coordinated protective activities for six U.S. Presidents. Other law enforcement positions include service as a police officer and detective in St. Louis and special agent with the Federal Bureau of Narcotics in Chicago.
Here’s an interesting timeline from POGO:
http://www.pogo.org/p/governme…..ndium.html
Does the fate of the Republic now hinge on the protection and disclosure of Bloch’s pocket thumb drive?
bmaz,
The OSC Task Force document (from the POGO web site) is quite instructive. It accuses (in the indirect way that career gov’t employees use) Bloch of some pretty blatant political manipulation of OSC investigations. I think it paints a different picture of Bloch.
It sure is an interesting document. It does alter a little the view of Bloch I painted above; but it still fits quite well within the framework of how this all came down. I think. It removes any good faith motivation from the equation as to Bloch, if true, but it still fits well with the overall scenarion. I think.
UPDATE: Here is a document fro POGO entitled “Summary of Task Force Activities and Recommendations” dated January 18, 2008. Extremely interesting, it details the various high profile cases of the OSC and the task force that was working on them. Sure paints schizophrenic picture of the office, Bloch and the task force. None of them look particularly good to me, but the task force, overall, probably comes off best. Take a look at it.
Hat tip to Phred for this reference!
Had a bad link in the update at first, it has been corrected.
The White House – Scott Bloch feud really is important. It may be the tip of one of the bergs that rip the rivets and welds along the side of the USS Cheney’s Secrets.
In addition to bmaz, Froomkin is following this trail:
We’re deep in Orwellian territory from the start. The commenter doesn’t identify whether the alleged destruction of data related to wrongdoing by Bloch or a third party, eg, Rove or Cheney. Also from Froomkin:
Possibly true. But one would have to be Oliver Twist not to wonder whether Cheney/Fagin’s little band of pickpockets was destroying evidence of his own wrongdoing, or hiding it under Bush’s generic shield, “We can’t comment about that while it’s under investigation.”
(Emph. added)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..806_3.html
The move against Bloch appears to have merit, but this White House is hopelessly conflicted. It should recuse itself from doing it. Like Scalia, that’s the last thing it will do. One of Cheney’s greatest fears is that once he loses the power to enact retribution against uncooperative bureaucrats who want to uphold the rule of law, those left standing might want to spill his secrets. He has to instill the fear of Cheney into as many souls as possible before he’s dragged kicking and leering from the pulpit and into the public stocks. I suspect he’s just begun to fight.
Interesting focus on the Doan and Rice files…
Democraticunderground has a take like yours bmaz
http://www.democraticundergrou…..15;3299531
Here’s an article about Davis’ request:
http://www.kcby.com/news/national/18724914.html
Just a note from my perspective…Davis has been after this since last May (as well as Conyers) as a May 30, 2007 letter states. So, why now?
I’m a bit confused. We have POGO stating it’s a result of their efforts and Davis stating he demanded Democrats subpoena him.
Did Dems get “whipped again or is POGO the source?
bmaz – check your last link to the draft memo from the pogo site – it didn’t work for me.
The POGO article with another link to that doc is here:
http://pogoblog.typepad.com/po……html#more
talk about your simultaneous posting *g*
One minor tidbit about that document. The last page references a Jan 23, 2008 memo (later than the nominal date of the document itself). That suggests to me that the task force worked the draft over several days.
Yeah, I don’t think we can totally rely on the provenance of that document, but it generally looks valid.
Embattled Official Defends Pricey Hand Towels
I have to chime in with some support for Bloch on the towels. With all the Pilate imitations being done by the past and present lawyers in the Executive Branch, you need really nice towels to avoid chafing.
That teh funny; I got to admit, though, the towels bit is penny ante bullshit. That part of the raid/investigation just makes them look bad. What kind of moron decided to roll with that part of it?
White House OPM
Rep. Davis (R- Virgina and faithful Abramoff donation recip)
A Group of OSC Employees file a complaint/ Task Force
POGO
Hmmm…
Rep. Davis today (May 7, 2008) — “Republicans in Congress today called for a subpoena to force testimony from Scott Bloch”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/may/07/usa
Does Bush want Bloch to give testimony or is Davis doing this on his own?
Intriguing. I still tend to think that it’s possible that the FBI really is acting in good faith and doing its job. They did a damn good job with the Plame investigation, and until I see evidence to the contrary, I’m willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.
That being said, I don’t follow the logic here. Bloch is getting ready to say some nasty things about Team Rove. Sending the FBI after Bloch doesn’t seem very Rovian to me. Rove tries to discredit and destroy his enemies as thoroughly as possible, and this sort of move is just going to make Bloch dig in his heels and fight back harder, not to mention the fact that it’ll let him claim political persecution. The obvious Rove move would be invent a gay sex scandal involving Bloch. It wouldn’t take much to make him look like a self-hating gay man. The whole situation practically begs for it. But the FBI? That’s a last-resort move for Rove, and he doesn’t need to make it right now. Either the FBI is acting in good faith, or someone else is pulling the strings here.
Oh, this is most certainly not something the FBI would have taken on through it’s own volition; this is driven from higher up without question.
You’re probably right, but they still get the benefit of the doubt. Bloch was in charge of whistleblowers. So what if you’re a whistleblower, and you want to blow the whistle on the guy you usually go to in order to blow the whistle on someone? I have no idea who you’d go to, but the FBI wouldn’t be a bad choice.
Heartily agree. The order would have come from someone like Alice Fisher or her replacement. This is a high-level, internecine conflict, two incompetents flailing at each other to keep quiet about their respective wrongdoings. If something good this way comes, to paraphrase a witch, it won’t be by design.
I still think it favors the secrecy of both parties – and hence, temporarily protects both – for Bloch’s purported investigation of administration wrongdoing to be wrapped under the invisibility cloak of a formal investigation by the DOJ until after the election. Without forgetting, mind, that that same DOJ was one Bloch’s targets (the kind of closed loop that used to set computers adither).
After the election, the new DOJ may lose interest in Bloch, who will be out, but possibly not in the bigger fish in the DOJ and White House whose corruption has been the seed for so many others’.
I really meant “Rovian” from the point of view of attacking others from the point of one’s own weakness as a deflecting tactic.
(From 7/13/2007)
I think Davis was more upset about the leak, of course not the concern of the content.
Perhaps more leaks were on the way…
Funny that Newt should make his comments about reclaiming the party before November and this happens?
Cynic am I…
Could we be missing the simplest explanation?
Bloch was not doing a good-enough/secret-enough job of destroying evidence and they needed to seize the remaining stuff under the guise of an “investigation”. If my assumption is right about how this works (bmaz?); now all the evedence is in control of friendlies under an “active investigation”, and NOT available to Congressional investigators etc. They just drag the “investigation” on into next year and “lose” the serious stuff after too much time has passed and everyone loses interest.
I’d prefer someone pokes holes in this idea, because it would be effective.
Apologies for the lousy grammar. I have to write in 3 minute spurts while working.
No, that is effectively what i am suggesting actually. The office is pretty much paralyzed by this and clearly much work product has been compromised and/or removed as a result of the raid. Hard to see how that doesn’t bring the whole process to a grinding halt.
Had a good friend over for dinner last night, computer guru for the major college at the local university. So our wives are talking about something of little interest to us and we both spoke at the same time…about bmaz’s post and the Bloch raid. He’d read the LFP post over at the Lake as well. We discussed the mess as well as we could without a white board and a pile of notes…and came to the conclusion that it was near the end-point of the Bush administration, where everyone is desperately defending their territory and legal culpability; it looks to us like a huge mass of snails under the ivy on a damp moonless night: everyone trying to screw everyone else. (Whatsthematter, you didn’t study gastropods in zoology?)
So a word of thanks to all of you for your intelligence and insight into this clusterfuck.
O/T but then again maybe not…
Torture Showdown Coming?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..06_pf.html
IMO it helps to remember that “Bloch” himself isn’t really and hasn’t really been investigating anything. Bloch’s Office of Special Counsel came complete with a lot of career people. Who Bloch seems to have rather effectively and “from within” undercut, sabotaged and blocked, all under cover of “gee, I was trying to be thorough”-esque kinds of covers.
Based on all the complaints against him, if Bloch were anything but a loyal Bushie who HAD VALUE, it seems there were all kinds of opportunities to have him ditched before now. A “spend more time with family” or “the investigations will clear my name, but in order not to be a distraction” etc. kind of resignations could probably have been obtained at almost any time.
And interestingly for anyone who was under investigation by the career lawyers at OSC, now a whole cadre of compromised DOJ lawyers and FBI agents will have access to whatever OSC had uncovered. That would sure be nice info to have at hand for counter-strategerizing if it looked like some of the investigations were uncovering info that might embarassingly come to light, even if Bloch was trying his best to sit on it. So an alternative to what may be look like they would be unsuccessful efforts to keep OSC from leaking and to keep tamping back reports might be to have everyone at OSC get a little slap in the face with a raid (that maybe Bloch already basically knows is coming – or at least could have/should have anticipated since oh, say, last Nov?) That will help shut people up. It also will hand over to the already openly, unabashedly and unashamedly politicized tortureco crew at DOJ all the potentially embarassing info that their imperial leaders may want to be able to be as effective as possible, going into elections, against any potential disclosures.
Lots more tenuous, but the raid could also ante up info that might help to round out the existing possible violations for people are on the pardon list to try to make sure all the ducks are lined up and shot with their pardons (probably not too many OLC opinions out there to cover specific instances by individuals like Rice and Rove of misuse of govt assets for poltical purposes, etc.)
So in my relative ignorance of the facts and what is really going on, but based on what you can expect from people who actively supported (or continued to work without condemnation of) nationwide propagandized disinformation, torture, kidnap, murders, obstruction, lies to courts, fixing cases, political prosecutions, killing habeas, massive felonious surveillance, vote suppression, and lobbyist and corporate protectionism to the extent of helping to insure the deaths and refugee status of millions – – while I can buy the “Bloch, stepped on toes and now is getting smacked” scenario, I can equally buy a scenario where the whole raid is mostly charade staged to once again make sure really evil pieces of crap are protected by their law firm, fka the United States Department of Justice.
No dog in the fight either way – my pups all were killed off in the DOJ pit a long long time ago.
Again, I think that is what I am suggesting basically. The curious part is that, if you believe the POGO proffered January 18 (23?) summary document, OSC hadn’t really done diddly squat and Bloch had been blowing smoke with his statements of all his work and “reports that are coming”. Sure like to know what, if anything substantive, the task force and office actually did between mid-January and now.
Also, it seems very weird to me that, if the FBI/raiders were going to seize entire case files, the only ones they focused on were Rice and Doan. Not sure how to square that….
29 – yeah, it kinda makes you wonder if the main problem Davis has with Bloch is that in the end, Bloch couldn’t control his staff after he antagonzied the crap out of them for years?
bmaz – I think the 400.00 towel stuff comes from the same kinds of minds that took a coroner to trial on his possible 3 buck or so misuse of government fax services – that’s what makes me a bit suspicious.
Maybe 400.00 towels is not such a big deal to most people here, however its the sort of thing that the MSM would harp on for days and days, and most of the uninformed would surly take up this battle cry instead of focusing on the real issue. Seems to me like a planned diversionary tactic… ? hopefully no spelling errors..lol
OT, but a lovely surprise — looks like Cliff Schecter is now joining the FDL blogging group.
He has a great post up about the recent primary — y’all outta go over and say howdy to his swank new online digs ;-))
Why did they close comments, without even offering a new thread, after only 34? Was someone out of bounds? Or did Schecter have to leave?
Bob in HI
I wondered too. I wanted to welcome him!
My bad. Here’s the link:
http://cliffschecter.firedogla…..ervatives/
I would direct your attention to the highlighting in the OSC TF document. Somebody marked up that document for a reason. I haven’t figured out it out yet, but there is some pattern.
I was curious about that too….
Bob Schacht @44 – Bob, it was a technical glitch behind the scenes that happened as a result of having the same thread in two places (Cliff’s and FDL front page) at the same time. There have been some anomalies when posts from here were in both too; still working out the bugs on that system.
Thx for the bg info.
It’s just tremendously heartening to see the FDL group continue to attract bright, courageous minds. Makes me optimistic ;-))
POGO diplomatically inferred “that” in their write-up on the raid. We need to get a number of eyes looking at it to pin down the possible content.
Well, don’t trust my version — just tossed my reactions into the thread a few moments ago, and look forward to other perspectives.
I’m an hour behind now, b/c once I started looking at that damn document, I was absorbed — in the way one is fascinated by a horrible auto accident. Ick!!
But that doc is worth a perusal by anyone who reads here!
Clearly needs to be taken with a grain of salt because of the draft status and, more importantly, there is no way to accurately gauge the various axes that may be grinding; but it is literally fascinating. I just meant to scan it briefly before linking it, and ended up reading it completely twice on the spot.
Agree on that grain of salt bit. Plus, I don’t have the background to know the players.
But like you, I found myself taking more time on it than I’d planned.
Hat tip to Wm O.
It also seems to underscore what LabDancer, JohnJ, marksb, and you are implying — something’s up and we’re only seeing the shark’s fin peeping out of the water, I suspect.
bmaz — do we know anything about the people on the task force? Also, do we yet know who is behind the raid at FBI? I think once we know the answer to those two questions we’ll have a clearer idea of what’s going on here. Unfortunately, BushCo has so debased DoJ, one cannot assume any of this is about the rule of law.
By the way PetePierce, if you’re around… have you read Charlie Savage’s book Takeover: Return of the Imperial Presidency? If so, you will know that Cheney/Addington will never concede that Congress can compel the Executive to do anything. They have used this particular trick time and time again (Savage documents multiple occurrences of this practice) to go along with Congress all the while stipulating that they do not need to. I find it galling. Not being answerable to Congress is the equivalent of not being answerable to the public. That’s a notion I reject entirely.
Wow!!
No time to do this document justice at present, but here’s what I see at-a-once-over:
Ten sections in a ‘Draft’ document from OSC on 18 Jan 08:
I. Office of Political Affairs Presentations (Doan)
My take: ‘This investigation could be trouble, so let’s shrink the scope of our inquiry and make it as small as possible. We’ll do this by examining awards in only two cases: (a) if someone mentions a problem in an interview, OR (b) it’s obvious that a document we can’t avoid is obviously manipulating [GSA] grants for political purposes.’ Otherwise, we’ll shrink the scope of our investigation to the size of a carbon atom.
II. Investigation Into the USAG Firings
One might wonder what OLC was doing as part of the DoJ meetings with OSC on the topic of fired USAGs. Anyone have insight? [see document, p. 4 highlighting]
IIII. Political Affiliation Hiring Practices and Personnel Decisions at DoJ
Highlighted Dates: 4 May 07
My take: OSP claims they ‘didn’t find’ evidence that WH had interfered with DoJ USAGs. So OSP will ’stand down’ on its investigation in order to delay, while DoJ pursues internal investigations. If DoJ turns up something, they’ll let OSP know. If OSP thinks there’s any problem, it can reopen [perhaps around 2076…]
IV Investigating USAG Firings
My take: OSC/Block ‘not putting resources at this time’. Delay via endless ‘requests for info’ from DoJ dance-around.
[I’m not qualified to determine at what point ‘requests for info’ meet the legal criteria for ‘obstruction of justice by stalling and asking for the wrong bullshit so one can run out the clock’. But this smells unpleasant.]
V Siegelman
My take: This draft document was written 18 Jan 08, right around the time that CBS’s “60 Minutes” delayed highlighting Siegelman, but within a month of their story on his case. See bottom of p. 7 — sure looks as if Bloch specifically, in writing DENIED the opportunity for OSC Task Force (OSC TF) to further investigate problems with Siegelman persecutions.
[If this isn’t ‘Obstruction of Justice’ + ‘Conspiracy to Obstruct’ then I’m a monkey’s ancient aunt.]
VI Schlozman Voter Reg Files
Highlighted Date: 14 Nov 2007
My Take: OSC TF employees are NOT authorized to open files related to investigating Schlozman, who as USAG Missouri brought a case against ACORN for ‘vote fraud’ one week prior to Sen Claire McCaskill’s (close) election in 2006.
VI Thompson/Bishupic
My take: Raises questions about why Bishupic still has a job, if the case he brought against Thompson was so lame it was tossed out — after Thompson evidently served 4 months in **prison**. [Echoes of Siegelman.]
IVII GSA Outreach Case
My Take: “Outreach Case” is a quaint term for having government employees listen to k-k-k-karl Rove’s PPT about how to swing elections to the GOP by funding public works through GSA. Some items blacked out so that names cannot be detected; this precaution not taken on other highlighted regions of the doc.
[…running out of time at this point…]
VIII Gutierrez
Related to EPA
IX — Doan II
My take: It’s hard to miss the storyline here: Lurita Babe was using the GSA to benefit GOP federal candidates. Worth a read!
X Rove I & II
My take: Via ‘Michael Scutter’ at WH, waste a lot of time going back and forth requesting documents about Rove’s whereabouts and travel in the 2006 election. As of 18 Jan 08, OSC was agreeing to ‘wait’ on further info and seemed to be putting its investigation on hold, using the premise that someone else is/was investigating Rove.
Didn’t note CondiMaru’s name in this document — sorry, not a very detailed overview, but that’s all I have time for at present. However, who would be fighting with Condi? Probably Dick Cheney.
So is there anywhere in all this mess a level of Dick trying to weaken Condi to make it easier for him to attack Iran? Dunno, but NPR reported that Condi’s 2004 travels were under investigation. Who would benefit from weakening Condi? Dick Cheney. That’s a worrying aspect.
Nevertheless, if this document highlighted by Friar Wm and bmaz doesn’t say “Obstruction!!! Conspiracy!!!” between 8 out of 10 sentences, then I have lost all capacity to comprehend written English.
Thoughts…?
OT – Thanks ROTL for keeping the moniker CondiMaru alive…
Federal Computer Week
The interesting fact for me was that we actually have people in the Federal Government who know how to shut down and isolate an entire email system! And these people are in the FBI of all agencies!
Meanwhile the White House can’t figure out how to run an email system.
From JohnJ at 31:
Yep. Furthermore, I think Bloch was doing an assignment in the first place.
It’s been in my head that for the most part the various federal agency inspectors general [inspector generals? I’d defer to Danny Kaye if he were still around.] from the Clinton administration were replaced during the time when the Bush43 transition team was doing its worst, and that those like Glenn Fine were sort of like atavisms left in place as this most distractable administration turned its attention to how to move the WOT from the resourceless desert of Afghanistan to oily riches of Iraq. And all the Bushie busy Buzzies though ass-clowns proved their respective loyalty by falling on their swords or more commonly being hoist on their own petards [ouch].
Except in the case of Bloch he failed to do the former & seemed oblivious to the latter. That must have presented an awfully disturbing sight to those seated next to the shredders & man-sized safes inside the OVP in particular.
J Thomason way up top in this thread styled this as ”Rovian”. IMO its far more likely a Cheney letter.
Well, I’m moderately puzzled.
TPM reports that POGO views that document as evidence of Bloch covering his own ass in a battle with the WH.
But my reading of that document — even if it is a Draft — is to note the number of spots in which the Task Force (presumably OSC employees) are actively forbidden to investigate Bishupic, or Gutierrez, or Rove.
Why would Bloch be so passive if he needed to rattle a WH cage?
Agree that — b/c of the Condi angle — this is looking like Cheney. After all, most of the problems in that document: Siegelman, USAGs, election fraud, are all within the Rove domain. Nothing here makes Cheney look evil; whereas all of it is evidence of Rove’s conduct.
FWIW, I think what POGO is getting at is that Bloch set things up not to actually accomplish anything worthwhile but to prevent his own premature demise. In which case you make a big splash about how you’re investigating all these high profile things, then tell your task force to sit on their hands. Of course, unless we know what the TF was hoping to achieve (real consequences or a whitewash of any wrongdoing) it is hard to say who was behaving worse Bloch or the TF. I’m voting for all of the above, but maybe I’m just being excessively cynical.
Phred, I have pondered that conclusion as well, and I am similarly not sure about it. It is undoubtedly part of the equation, as I proposed in the main post speculation, but the facts (especially after seeing that Summary draft) are so totally all over the freaking road, that I am hard pressed to give it the full strength that TPM and POGO do.
The thing that struck me about the specific facts recited in the memo are that those facts are by and large the facts in the public domain, so to speak. In other words the memo concedes matters clearly set forth in a record of public testimony and very little else in terms of fact. The remainder of the memo appears to be mostly pertaining to procedural concerns. This is what leads me to believe that it is part and parcel of an elaborate ruse of damage control.
Of what relevance is it, for instance that David Iglesias, has information concerning the timing of a release of a DOJ report unless there is a heightened overriding concern with public opinion and perception.
Not sure; but I found the stuff about Iglesias weird and kind of disconcerting. Iglesias has been saying in public for quite a while that he was confident of the job OSC was doing and expected good results; that sure isn’t reflected in that Summary now is it?
Thanks bmaz, I agree that the draft document doesn’t strike me as clear cut as POGO suggests. It will be interesting to continue to follow this mess as it continues to unfold. Thanks for the post!
I have a question. Who does the Director of the Office of Special Counsel go to when he is in a battle against the White House and he needs to become a whistle-blower and he has evidence? Especially if he is scared but has been playing a “partisan part” to appear as though he is “going along?”
I know crazy question…
That is a good question, and I don’t know the answer off hand. But you know, if Bloch really had such an inclination, there are sure avenues you could approach. Congressional committees, Fitzgerald (not saying he would take it up necessarily but could probably refer), perhaps could file some type of lawsuit (would be very tricky though). None may be great options, but there are options. If one were so inclined, but I don’t think Bloch was.
Guardian picked up some good quotes…
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/may/07/usa
Could it be that members of the Task Force somehow got the FBI to intervene to seize all records/computers before any more disappeared? It appears they had collected ‘thousands’. That would fit bmaz’s ‘Fitzgerald’ option.
That is a pretty interesting thought. Wouldn’t even have to necessarily be multiple members could be one “whistleblower”. I am inclined to think not because of the way grand juries appear to be used here, but it is an interesting possibility.
I had the same thought.
Until Nov 2006, Bush, Cheney, Rove, et al envisioned a Permanent Republican Majority. This belief allowed them to commit criminal acts and even destroy evidence, assuming they’d never be investigated — after all, they controlled all Committee Chairmanships, judicial appointments, the media, and DoJ investigations.
But then the Dems won **both** houses of Congress in 2006. Shortly thereafter:
1. DiFi stumbled (evidently by accident) onto news of a USAG firing in her state.
2. The TPM website revealed a widespread pattern of politically motivated firing of USAGs, thereby raising a whole new set of questions about BushCheney.
3. Around that same period, Scott Horton began to blog at Harper’s about the Siegelman case, a study in politicized justice that echoed the DoJ firings.
After the Dems won Congress, Bloch’s job — to sabotage whistleblowing and investigations — became even more critical to the BushCheney administration. Judging from the 18 Jan 08 document at the POGO site, it looks like Bloch did his damnest to cover their criminal asses.
It’s possible that this is a Cheney firing — richocheting off several angles — in a calculated effort to use the FBI as a means to to regain physical control of criminal evidence that BushCheney need to hide/destroy.
However, it’s also possible there are OSC employees who found someone to listen to their whistleblowing.
I expect more shark fins to appear in coming days and weeks; there seems to be blood in the water.
Thing of it is, according to The Times report, the subpoenas, of which bmaz would love to examine the filings in support [Me too but after over 87.27 months under Bush & Cheney I’ve no more breath to hold… glub…], derive from a “grand jury” proceeding.
Now, if I were sitting around the man-sized safes gaming this out with Dick & David, & assuming the “draft” document on POGOs site is a genuine reflection of what was going on inside OSC over the times covered in it {A Mighty If, IMO], I’d be pointing out that:
whereas the plan was to let Bloch head up the OSC to:
[a] carry on a process of “stall-til-the-next-big-shiny-object-comes-along-then-hit-delete” in relation to matters clearly or apparently under his jurisdiction, and
[b] take on the burden of housing the unshreddables in relation to whatever we send him to house regardless of whether it may be clear or apparent that he has no jurisdiction over that whatever, to bury in the files, or shred if he can, or resorb if necessary,
Scott has been good enough to tip us off to a few realities, starting with the readily apparent increasingly surly mood among the career types in his office as they start to take on the look of Fletcher Christian & the mutineers;
Scott has also been good enough to alert us to the fact that at this point, even with only 8.73 months left before “d” day, the plumbing over a OSC is pretty much all backed up with paper creating this rather substantial clog of partially completed investigations on a whole whack of sensitive stuff, not to mention a number of things we asked him to add to his to-do list despite the obvious LACK of jurisdiction, and those he’s doing his paper trencherman best to resorb it all, its starting to tell on his boyish figure;
& Scott has also been good enough to inform us that despite his best efforts over a number of months, apparently there is no reputable law firm, & indeed perhaps no disreputable law firm either, prepared to greet him with a suitable sinecure should he opt for early retirement – so Scott thinks he might stay on & hope for a McCain victory, or hope he gets overlooked in a postive hailstorm of bi-partisanship, or hope he can b.s. the Obama transition team into treating him like GWB treated folks like Glen Fine & Pat Fitzgerald ie leave him be – cuz he needs the job & likes the towels – I mean he REALLY likes those towels.
So now Scott is concerned about his being caught holding the bag full of evidence on “you know what” & related tomfoolery & needs a solid.
So how about we get an FBI posse ordered up, & maybe we can bury it all in the Grand Jury hearing, & the FBI can say: we did our job by the book, & Scott gets to say: Hey my staff handled the paper work, not me & then maybe Leahy retires or croaks & we can try to bore DiFI or schumber to sleep.
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Then there is the entire alternative universe of speculation assuming the “draft” memo to be bogus. And JThomason’s observation at 68 has me concerned that might be so.
bmaz, you mention Fitz as a possible avenue. See, I think Bush-Cheney-Rove know that Bloch has had them by the —– if he were to not to be loyal. The Bloch info on Rove tipped that questionable loyalty hand to a degree. Fitz, learning some interesting information from the Renzko case -like the politicizing of the USAG’s and the attempt to obstruct justice through firing AG’s, gave Fitz some vital information. By law, if Fitz found out that there was an attempt to obstruct justice during the Plame investigation/Libby Trial, he would be obligated to follow that up – wouldn’t he?
Now couldn’t this play for the Dems too? Like someone putting the bug in Davis’ ear to get upset about the Dems dragging their feet on Bloch and the Dems suddenly respond? (I’m trying to get to the, “Why now?” on Davis pushing this — and yes, it could come from the White House. I’m just exploring possibilities. I’m willing to put my money on Fitz to play this game of chess quite well.)
Bloch has released statements from his office that he is fully cooperating.
I think this could mean White House or Fitz. I’m hoping Fitz.
I’ve been trying to find out about the status on the second Grand Jury from the Plame investigation. It was a Special Grand Jury wasn’t it? They run for 18 months and then can be extended by three 6 month periods for an additional 18 months is that correct? Didn’t Fitz state he was going to keep the door open? IANAL so, let me know how crazy this scenario is.
I am just noticing the timing of this irt the Renzko trial:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/…..2070.story
It’s crazy, I know, but the timing is interesting.
Why I state this bmaz is irt CREW as well.
On March 12, 2008
Marcy even wrote about this a year ago here:
http://firedoglake.com/2007/04…..ng-emails/
And then there is our old mystery…
Sealed vs Sealed? Presentments? DOJ War during Libby?
Citizenspook wrote on 6/13/06:
From DKos…
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/5/21/184052/881
Again, probably crazy. I just find the timing irt Renzko case with its’ revealing DOJ USAG related testimony interesting especially when paired with CREW’s filing irt the missing email/destroyed documents. We’ve got a judge telling the White House that their missing email response is bunk, court related issues on the missing email on April 24 and May 6 of 08.
I agree for the most part that this raid is probably Bush-Cheney backed last ditch F-U but I also think there is the possibility Fitz kept a door open to be able to act swiftly with additional evidence, especially if it is in-house so to speak, via Bloch. Davis could have been played by any side and think his “outrage” was assisting all of this when he is a small fish in light of the criminal offenses involved.
Fitz may have had inside help within the OSC too… And the Dems might be smarter than we realize.
Probably a dream but I want the “good guys” to win. The Rule of Law side.
The media silence, the dearth of leaks and spin, has all the earmarks of a Fitzgerald operation. Rove may have his hands off the levers but his methods may persist. There is no evidence of a Cheney false flag operation with Judy or Timeh carrying the water. Really makes one wonder.
And I had forgotten about this:
On February 28: Pelosi asked the DOJ to open a grand jury investigation and pursue misdemeanor charges against Harriet Miers, the former White House counsel, and Joshua Bolten, President Bush’s chief-of-staff, for contempt of Congress. Miers refused to testify to Congress regarding the dismissals of federal prosecutors in 2006.
February 29: Mukasey rejected referring the House’s contempt citations to a federal grand jury, saying Bolten and Miers had committed no crime. Mukasey said they were right in refusing to provide Congress with White House documents or to testify about the firings of federal prosecutors.
March 10:
(Washington, DC)- Today, the U.S. House of Representatives General Counsel filed a civil lawsuit on behalf of the House Judiciary Committee to enforce subpoenas issued by the committee seeking information on the U.S. Attorney firings. The defendants in the case are former White House Counsel Harriet Miers and White House Chief of Staff Joshua Bolten who were cited by the House for contempt of Congress last month. Last week, the Justice Department refused to present the House-passed contempt citations to a grand jury, contrary to federal law. Based on the House resolution that also found Bolten and Miers in contempt, the Committee is now filing the civil lawsuit to enforce the subpoenas.
Which becomes more interesting irt the testimony in the Renzko case by Ata noted at 77 above…
This testimony makes Davis and reps “panic”. Davis pushes on Bloch. With the timing, Dems say, “Sure, we should “get” Bloch.” All the while “getting Bloch” helps the Dems…
So, civil suit and then the Ata tesimony = possible cause of the raid? Which now makes Bolton/Miers their testimony related to a criminal case of obstruction? And all can be tied to obstruction irt Plame case as well?
Again I may be crazy and pulling at the wrong threads…
What I need help with bmaz is can a civil suit result in a Grand Jury when related testimony comes out and exposes a criminal case is present? IANAL.
I don’t know if anybody is still hanging around on this thread, but here are some interesting data points about all this.
1. The WSJ story that got Bloch into to trouble was based on a leak wherein somebody showed them a receipt from Bloch’s government-issued credit credit. Hmm… What agency manages the federal government’s credit card program? The GSA.
2. The FBI is investigating Bloch’s investigation of Rice’s travel. What agency manages the federal government’s travel arrangements? GSA.
The question I have is: Did Lurita Doan get the last laugh?
Very nice points WO.
Klynn @79,81 – I now I referred to Fitzgerald specifically and individually, but believe it or not, I kind of meant it as an illustrative example of “white knights” that could be approached if one wanted to. I’ll be honest, I don’t think that is what happened here.
That would be sad.
But why would Bush ask her to leave now if that is the case?
GSA claim would not need an FBI raid for so much information if that was the cause?
That would be an easy investigation to run quietly, without Bloch’s knowledge; especially with the Quantico Circuit. Yet, Bush could push FBI to sweep everything from OSC irt a misuse of a government credit card?
That would scream overkill investigation, evidence gathering-wise.
Those “deeply religious” types who are so willing to break the law are oh so dangerous
Then there is this:
After watching Bill Moyers this past Feb:
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/jour…..atch2.html
The show focused on Doan and Rice.
Then this Waxman – Davis exchange upon Doan’s resignation”
and this posted today:
http://www.ombwatch.org/articl…..ry/4961/49
And the spin begins here with interesting twists regarding the raid:
http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/0508/050708e1.htm
and this:
(my bold)
OSC employees are stating that the raid took far more information than would be needed for the scope of the investigation they were told was underway.
Okay, I get it now. No good guys to be found backing this raid.
Regarding the Dallas Field Office Raid:
There is this from a POGO letter in 05:
http://64.233.167.104/search?q…../osc/joint
NPR today references this letter too:
http://www.npr.org/templates/s…..d=90245837
Well, I’m still hanging around this thread, puzzled.
Also, I’m a complete sucker for LabDancer’s humor ;-))
With billions/year in gov’t contracts, could GSA be the tunnel into a new phase of the whole Duke Cunningham/gov’t contracts mess? Has Abramoff been spilling one too many beans…?
(All the more reason for Bush, Cheney, Rove, AIPAC, and corrupt members of Congress to secure hard drives and documents for storage in their man-sized safes, and underscores the point that paranoid people may feel Bloch isn’t covering their asses well enough?)
If the POGO document is bogus, the white hats have a steeper slope. But if it’s legit, then it underscores JThompson’s point that the media silence is eerie.
I’m still with marksb and JohnJ; the subtle movements in the dark are quite possibly shark fins.
Hey klynn, I am glad you are still on this topic/thread.
Hey JimWhite just posted this McClatchy article noting the investigation focus is more on Bloch’s aid to Condi and the 2004 election charges she encountered:
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/36329.html
Thank you Jim White!
Rep. Davis is not popular amongst conservative VA GOP bigwigs. He says he didn’t pass their anti-choice litmus test, but…?? Why is he being a bulldog for Rice when the GOP has abandoned him?
“January 30, 2008 –
U.S. Rep. Thomas M. Davis III (R-Va.) said today he will retire from Congress at the end of the year, bringing to a close a 14-year stint in the House of Representatives during which he rose rapidly through the ranks of Republican leadership and championed such issues as D.C. voting rights and a vibrant defense-contracting industry.
…
Davis didn’t count on the vehemence with which the GOP’s conservative wing would resist his efforts to move the party to the middle. His opt-out of a Senate bid was spurred in part by an ugly battle within the Republican Party of Virginia, which decided to have a convention instead of a primary to choose its nominee. The decision favored former governor James S. Gilmore III, a more conservative candidate viewed as likelier to win over the party faithful who typically attend conventions. “
http://belowthebeltway.com/200…..-congress/
Interesting.
Craig Unger’s latest book “Fall of the House of Bush” makes an interesting surmise that at this point so many ideologues and extremists have taken the reins of government (not just in US, but in many places) that we’re at a point where the critical techtonics are really ‘the extremists versus the rest of us’. And ‘the rest of us’ is not as aligned with Dem/Rep as we are coalescing in opposition to the perceived risks and errors of ideologues (by definition, ‘blind’ to reality).
Looks like Davis may be in this situation to a degree — fed up with what the GOP has become, and realistically assessing his chances of being elected by them as nil.
Isn’t it Kansas where a lot of Republicans got fed up with the ideologues, gave up their “R” designations, and are running as Dems. This is essentially what Jim Webb did two years ago (in VA).
Interesting tea leaves.
Yeah, but much of that switching is also just opportunism, not principled morality. I would suggest that the us versus them is not necessarily divisible by the party affiliation anymore. Plenty of big time Dems running us down the same road as the Republicans. I don’t know the right words to describe the distinction to be honest. Those that believe in fundamental fairness, equality and equal protection versus those that don’t or something. I dunno…
Agree completely. But I still think Ungar’s point is worth keeping in mind, because it categorizes things in ways that make certain incidents and statements ‘make sense’.
As for the opportunism, it’s certainly possible. Maybe I’ve taken too much to heart the depth of disgust in some conversations with ‘moderate’ Repubs who loathe Bush, Cheney, Rove… and who really need to get a little more (ahem) ‘clarity’ about McCain.
I still hope JohnJ, marksb, you, and LD are prescient here.
(Fingers crossed.)
NPR is reporting that the FBI searched Bloch’s person, and took two thumb drive. The sources say the drives contain material Bloch supposedly downloaded from the computers that he ordered cleaned off by a private company because of a “virus”.