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Anonymous says:
I was not surprised when I read about this. We â€claim†to be a nation of laws but it seems that it is more in past tense.
What is evident is that we are living Orwellian times. Fiction has become fact! We have become a society where American Idol is more important than warantless spying on Americans. Yes, the greengrocer that puts up the sign!
Anonymous says:
Christy Hardin Smith just commented this over at FDL. â€July 22nd, 2006 at 10:27 am lotus at 66 and everyone else — don’t you dare define this nation as a whole based on the policies of the neocons. Their view of the world and this nation is not mine, nor is it the perspective that most Americans take. Do not allow yourself to define this country by their actions — they bear responsibility for what they do, but they are not the whole of America. Words have strong meaning, and we need to be very careful what words we use in this — the neocons, the Bush Administration and their failed policies are not the best of America. Don’t define the whole by the parts that are failing the rest of us.†Thanks for an as per usual great post emptywheel. OT, your 3G 4G analysis is so on target for what is going on in Lebanon, once someone understands your â€One Week†post, it put the unfolding tragedy in perspective.
Anonymous says:
waterboarding is torture ???
didn’t I say that in a comment here about two weeks back ???
I was way ahead of the curve on Rove’s SF-312 too
Looks like I’m two weeks ahead of the â€smart†media (which is equivilent to 7 years in the MSM)
so I’m dog years ahead of the NY Times, and light years ahead of the repuglicans
what else is new ???
Anonymous says:
I was thnking today of the former Bush Treasury Secretary in Pittsburgh, Paul O’Neil, who went underground after the WH threatened to prosecute him for releasing â€classified information†in his tell-all book. It all seems such a shameless abuse of the legal system, I don’t know how legal professionals can bear it and remain silent.
Anonymous says:
Perhaps we could call the White House (switchboard 202-456-1414; opinion line 202-‎‎456-1111) EVERYDAY, keeping the phones ringing off the hook with demands that ‎Bush resign or face impeachment. That’s what happened a few weeks before Nixon ‎resigned. People all across America were bombarding the phone lines with calls to the ‎White House, demanding Nixon’s impeachment. I always thought that our telephone ‎calls had hastened Nixon’s resignation — more than any other contributing factor… But ‎then again, I could be wrong. Maybe lawmakers had more integrity back then and ‎actually cared about democratic principals. ‎
Anonymous says:
Perhaps we could call the White House (switchboard 202-456-1414; opinion line 202-‎‎456-1111) EVERYDAY, keeping the phones ringing off the hook with demands that ‎Bush resign or face impeachment. That’s what happened a few weeks before Nixon ‎resigned. People all across America were bombarding the phone lines with calls to the ‎White House, demanding Nixon’s impeachment. I always thought that our telephone ‎calls had hastened Nixon’s resignation — more than any other contributing factor… But ‎then again, I could be wrong. Maybe lawmakers had more integrity back then and ‎actually cared about democratic principals. ‎
Anonymous says:
My monthly Blog Brief column for the Legal Intelligencer discusses this post. Link here: http://blogbrief.blogspot.com/…..tions.html
I tried email to [email protected] prior to publication, but emails all bounced back.
I was not surprised when I read about this. We â€claim†to be a nation of laws but it seems that it is more in past tense.
What is evident is that we are living Orwellian times. Fiction has become fact! We have become a society where American Idol is more important than warantless spying on Americans. Yes, the greengrocer that puts up the sign!
Christy Hardin Smith just commented this over at FDL.
â€July 22nd, 2006 at 10:27 am
lotus at 66 and everyone else — don’t you dare define this nation as a whole based on the policies of the neocons. Their view of the world and this nation is not mine, nor is it the perspective that most Americans take. Do not allow yourself to define this country by their actions — they bear responsibility for what they do, but they are not the whole of America. Words have strong meaning, and we need to be very careful what words we use in this — the neocons, the Bush Administration and their failed policies are not the best of America. Don’t define the whole by the parts that are failing the rest of us.â€
Thanks for an as per usual great post emptywheel.
OT, your 3G 4G analysis is so on target for what is going on in Lebanon, once someone understands your â€One Week†post, it put the unfolding tragedy in perspective.
waterboarding is torture ???
didn’t I say that in a comment here about two weeks back ???
I was way ahead of the curve on Rove’s SF-312 too
Looks like I’m two weeks ahead of the â€smart†media (which is equivilent to 7 years in the MSM)
so I’m dog years ahead of the NY Times, and light years ahead of the repuglicans
what else is new ???
I was thnking today of the former Bush Treasury Secretary in Pittsburgh, Paul O’Neil, who went underground after the WH threatened to prosecute him for releasing â€classified information†in his tell-all book. It all seems such a shameless abuse of the legal system, I don’t know how legal professionals can bear it and remain silent.
Perhaps we could call the White House (switchboard 202-456-1414; opinion line 202-‎‎456-1111) EVERYDAY, keeping the phones ringing off the hook with demands that ‎Bush resign or face impeachment. That’s what happened a few weeks before Nixon ‎resigned. People all across America were bombarding the phone lines with calls to the ‎White House, demanding Nixon’s impeachment. I always thought that our telephone ‎calls had hastened Nixon’s resignation — more than any other contributing factor… But ‎then again, I could be wrong. Maybe lawmakers had more integrity back then and ‎actually cared about democratic principals. ‎
Perhaps we could call the White House (switchboard 202-456-1414; opinion line 202-‎‎456-1111) EVERYDAY, keeping the phones ringing off the hook with demands that ‎Bush resign or face impeachment. That’s what happened a few weeks before Nixon ‎resigned. People all across America were bombarding the phone lines with calls to the ‎White House, demanding Nixon’s impeachment. I always thought that our telephone ‎calls had hastened Nixon’s resignation — more than any other contributing factor… But ‎then again, I could be wrong. Maybe lawmakers had more integrity back then and ‎actually cared about democratic principals. ‎
My monthly Blog Brief column for the Legal Intelligencer discusses this post. Link here: http://blogbrief.blogspot.com/…..tions.html
I tried email to [email protected] prior to publication, but emails all bounced back.