Did Robert Costello Inadvertently Provide New Evidence against Defendant-1?
In a press conference after Defendant-1’s arraignment yesterday, Alvin Bragg explained that he reconsidered bringing this case because new information — both newly available witness(es) and evidence — had come to him that change the way he thought of the case.
The witnesses may be one or both of Kellyanne Conway or Hope Hicks, both of whom testified to the grand jury, both of whom will have backed Michael Cohen’s claims about what went down in 2016.
The new evidence may be something from Trump’s taxes (the statement of facts briefly notes that “the participants
also took steps that mischaracterized, for tax purposes” the hush money payments) or something that came out of the Trump Organization trial last year.
But I can’t help but wonder whether, in his attempt to stave off a Trump indictment last month, Robert Costello provided new information to Bragg.
I say that because one of the only new details in the statement of facts is that, after writing Cohen on April 20, 2018 to reassure him that he had “friends in high places” (which made the Mueller Report and was also included in the SOF), Costello emailed Cohen again on June 14, 2018, urging him not to plead again. This email is not included in the Mueller Report.
On or about June 14, 2018, Lawyer C emailed Lawyer A a news clip discussing the possibility of Lawyer A cooperating, and continued to urge him not to cooperate with law enforcement, writing, “The whole objective of this exercise by the [federal prosecutors] is to drain you, emotionally and financially, until you reach a point that you see them as your only means to salvation.” In the same email , Lawyer C, wrote, “You are making a very big mistake if you believe the stories these ‘journalists’ are writing about you. They want you to cave. They want you to fail. They do not want you to persevere and succeed.”
In hubristic interviews after his testimony to the grand jury — which he claimed to be sure would stave off an indictment — Costello described that prosecutors were narrowly focused on six emails he provided them, rather than a whole binder of emails that, Costello claimed, would totally discredit Cohen as a witness (but not Kellyanne, Hope Hicks, or David Pecker, which is a testament to the limits of his understanding of the case).
Presumably, this email is one of the ones they focused on.
If Costello’s attempt to stave off the indictment actually hastened it, it wouldn’t be the first time. Costello had two exchanges with federal prosecutors (and FBI agents) in a November 2021 attempt to stave off Steve Bannon’s indictment for contempt. Prosecutors treated him as a witness. Among the other damning things he told them is that he advised Bannon to BEWARE because he could be referred for prosecution if he totally blew off the subpoena from the January 6 Committee. He also made it clear that Bannon did not have an explicit executive privilege invocation.
It would be especially remarkable if Costello provided Bragg with emails that he previously didn’t have, because that might mean that Cohen didn’t have everything accessible himself. It might mean DOJ didn’t consider all the evidence about Costello’s attempt to influence Cohen’s testimony.
And in this case, there can be no misunderstanding that he will be treated as a witness. Trump sent Costello as a witness, his witness. His testimony is now locked in.
That testimony necessarily covers one of the only previously unpublished details in the entire narrative. Costello himself may be one of the new witnesses.
I love your insights, Marcy. When we first heard of Costello’s whisperings years back, I felt that this would someday bite Trump in the ass if our legal system didn’t totally collapse. BTW, are you able to quash the rumors that Costello’s nom de guerre is bmaz?
Shot fired! Holy Hell!
I am not Bob Costello. And, yes, Marcy can confirm that.
For a moment, I thought this might turn into the famous scene in Spartacus.
I am not Bob Costello.
but have you been Watching the Detectives?
I am Elvis.
“He’s so cute…”
“She’s filing emails while they’re dragging the lake”
“She’s filing emails while they’re dragging the lake”
You’re killing me here.
As they say in Manhattan:
“Noice!”
“Abbott & Costello – Who’s on First?”
https://youtu.be/2ZksQd2fC6Y
Costello: Who’s on first?
Abbott: Yes, Who’s on first.
Cohen Says who?
Ya…ok then….go ahead..back up.
Abbot and Costello:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W62MPX0keFo
No way Bmaz is Costello.
He’s BATMAN .
~cough-sputter-cough~ bwahahahahahah
Lol, I do not even have wings. But there is a culvert that goes underneath a local road that is, seriously here, a bat haven. If you go there near sunset, it is absolutely nuts. And probably rabid.
You need Charles Barkley’s magic lamp
with the Magic [Johnson] genie!
Austin has Greg Abbott (bummer!) but it also has the Congress street bridge where thousands of Mexican short-tailed bats live. Seeing them swarm near sunset is amazing.
We also have BAT FEST! August 26, 2023. It’s quite the festival😁
http://www.youtube(dot).com/watch?v=pC8J_Xy6AKQ&t=4s
The 300 emails with Cohen that Costello volunteered may have inadvertently provided useful info and leads (CCs) that DA didn’t previously have, Costello may have shot trump in the foot with his 11th hour grandstand attempt to throw a spanner into the DA’s works. The spanner may have rebounded into the defense’s works.
Who hasn’t forwarded emails containing stuff that we shouldn’t have shared. Sharing 300 emails , even after careful scruitiny by lawyers, can be a tough task, a couple “aw, shits” in those emails is my guess. Painstakingly rooted out and followed up by skilled, diligent prosecutors.
First Bannon, and now Trump.
Donald, when someone tells you who they are (a witness, not a lawyer), believe them the first time.
From Jeff Tiedrich on twitter:
“first they came for Steve Bannon, and I did not speak out— because seriously, fuck that guy”
Oct 19, 2021
Costello, after he testified to the grand jury on March 20: “Today, after giving all those materials to the Manhattan district attorney’s office, out of 321 e-mails they cherry-picked six e-mails to ask me about. And of course they took them out of context.”
“And of course they took them out of context.”
…says the so-called “seasoned litigator”, whose entire alleged career has in no small part been focused around convincing juries how to interpret evidence, and believe the context he provides them.
Poor Bobby, how dare that mean grand jury question any claim he made! No seasoned litigator could possibly predict that might occur!
(insert clip of Lindsey Graham clutching pearls and swooning onto a chaise)
At this point, I’m mostly left wondering how quickly the foolish, arrogant prattling of Trump’s lawyers will cause him more trouble than his own childish tantrums and disrespect of the law — they’re already neck and neck, and the race barely just began.
Don’t get too distracted by the Trump Circus. Expect full-press RWNJ ratfuckery while they believe (perhaps rightly) that most are preoccupied with Trump On Ice…er…Trial.
The new season of Succession illuminates how truly horrible a human being Logan Roy is. The latest episode clearly shows that he doesn’t give a damn about his children, treating them like dirt right to their faces. I came away from it hoping that he will die before the series ends this year.
My thoughts about Trump are trending similarly. Wouldn’t the world be a better place without him? If it takes one state court prosecution for white collar crime, which is a standard crime and a standard prosecution, to start digging his metaphorical grave, why not? He really doesn’t give a damn about law or right and wrong or anyone else; if he wants to live in this community, he needs to change or be put away.
I find that historical comparisons are more useful for gauging Trump, such as Hitler, Mussolini, and Charles I.
Note that people like this do not change, except for the worse.
There is nothing whatsoever standard about this.
You are right. The only standard that applies is the “Standard Deviation” of the former President.
Math majors take note?
I am not a Math Major – and hated statistics, but there is nothing Normal (Bell) about this.
This is Poison.
I probably didn’t spell that right ;-)
He is more of a baleine than a poisson
Please don’t besmirch highly social mammals by that association! Fish have more loyalty to each other than he does to any other human.
A nerdy point, but a whale is not a fish.
That was my exact point.
This is very fishy, and Poisson, and perhaps a few days late (the ‘April Fish’ [poisson d’Avril!] being a thing).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sim%C3%A9on_Denis_Poisson
Mais bien sûr les Français
No, Chebychev.
Accounting for variability without having to assume Gaussian or Poisson “normality” distributions.
🤣 http://www.bgladd.com/papers/Probability-from-C-to-G.PDF
So, to summarize.
Chebychev is Russian.
So, if I want Trump’s p-value I have to INspect a sufficient set of Russian hookers.
Ok…
YOU win the internets today !!!
With Chebychev you never get your Mrs Butter’s worth and the phase varies in inconvenient ways
Given the chaos that surrounds Individual-1, the “strange attractor” of chaos theory might be more appropriate.
He’s definitely an unstable fixed point; a “repulsor”, if you will. (To use the Jurassic Park analogy, he’s the hilltop that everything runs away from.)
What on Earth is happening on Emptywheel? I should check on Slashdot, maybe they have moved to legal analysis.
Counterpoint: EW provides legal analysis AND humor—what’s not to like?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisson_distribution
Given Trump’s tenuous grasp on truth, I’d suggest Cauchy – a distribution where both mean and variance are undefined.
But… Trump is both mean and variant. More than variant, he’s a far-from-standard deviation. And I suspect he’ll regress to being even more mean.
I think Trump is more standard deviant, or perhaps an unusual one.
We also have to account for Trump’s love of the square root of -1, otherwise known as an “imaginary number.”
It’s not law, it’s Law – of Karma, sadly.
Note that I am not advocating for Karma to replace justice, just noting that the current application of Karma to Donald Trump is not subtle… not that he’d ever consider that it’s in operation at all.
Let’s be clear advocating violence is not acceptable. Perhaps it would be better to say Trump should not be a candidate for public office and should be charged and prosecuted for crimes he’s committed, which would also reduce the odds of a successful candidacy.
yes, let nature take its coarse.
Of course, you mean course :)
or are you being clever?
the misspelling was indeed intentional, as Defendent-1 is as coarse as they come.
Agreed 100%. Apologies, my words came out strong and wrong, and before the first cuppa had hit. You have put it very well, thank you.
Junior is clearly a LESS competent more drug addled version of Kendall Roy. Knockoff Princess is hack’s version of Shiv. Roy. The only competent one is Roman, but he is sexual deviant so there’s that.
In addition to the rank speculation about DoJ interference precipitated by Cy Vance, this piece of news does explain why DA Bragg reversed course on pursuing the indictment. IIRC that was a topic on earlier threads: why now?
There does seem to be some more nasty surprises coming from DA Bragg for Defendant-1, and I would not be surprised to see an amended complaint. We’re now in the preliminary hearing phase where the trial ground rules will be finalized. Those details will be important as we saw in the Durham cases among others. These are important enough to ask everyone to limit speculation about what must occur at trial, because we don’t know the rules yet.
The other risk is whether this will embolden the others with axes to grind like SC Smith and DA Willis or new/other civil cases beyond the E. Jean Carroll one going to trial shortly. It’s going to be a long summer of (expensive legal fees) trouble for Defendant-1.
So, aside from the small crowd in support (which will also embolden the others) and train wreck speech (panned for blowing an opportunity since many legal minds agree with bmaz), Defendant-1 also launched a new set of attacks on Bragg and his trial judge. It seems pretty clear to me that the defense team is unable to rein in their client (and since Ephshteyn is part of it, maybe unwilling) and that will not set well with the judge who just hours earlier told everyone to knock off the BS. I therefore pose two questions:
1. How did the attorneys here handle clients like this in the criminal setting?
2. How long until the judge hauls Defendant-1 back in to answer for his statements flouting the judge’s direct instruction?
2a. Will the judge have the option to toss Defendant-1 into detention to teach him some manners if he does summon him back?
I haven’t forgotten about AG James’ case on the civil side versus TrumpOrg but that’s targeting the company, not the individual. However, it’s a distinction without a clear difference for Defendant-1.
FWIW, Vlad was laughing his задница (zadnitsa) off at Defendant-1’s expense via his propaganda machine. The late night comics enjoyed it too. Not too many MAGA types did, judging from the ‘crowd’ of supporters in NYC, and I suspect that contributed to the hang-dog look Defendant-1 had at his defense table yesterday.
As my brother said, “he looks like someone sh*t on his Tootsie Roll.”
To be fair, getting arrested can’t be fun for anyone. I’d have my resting bitch face on too.
There are other civil cases pending against Trump the individual. A number of them are listed here, though I don’t think it’s a complete list: https://www.justsecurity.org/75032/litigation-tracker-pending-criminal-and-civil-cases-against-donald-trump/
I read somewhere years ago that, during the course of his business life, Trump has been involved in 3,000+ civil cases. Some filed against him, others filed by him, mostly against his subcontractors. His success rate is extremely high because he can run the other guy out of money. I’m willing to bet the vast majority of the people he’s screwed over don’t even bother.
Another dark comedy moment in the Trump saga with Costello voluntarily turning over 300 emails as last minute witness for the defendant in attempt to damage key witness; prosecutors select a subset of interest, and he claims “cherry-picking.”
Hysterical.
Speaking of which, I heard a touch of hysteria in a clip of Trump’s post indictment speech at Mar-a-Lago I had not heard before.
Wondering if the ‘touch of hysteria’ wasn’t just the result of the day’s arraignment but sundowning. Funny how WaPo described his speech as “seething and tired and meandering” and “low-energy.”
I apologize for belaboring the point.
What I heard was an escaped incomprehensible rage put in check, but the wildness had escaped. It was as if a layer somewhere had broken off to expose the guts underneath. Rage and terror had him . And then he heard himself.
This led me to visualize the public disintegration of a person a piece at a time while a succession of serious impending legal cases involving national security get charged and played out while he is running to be a one-term president, no small task either.
You may find Dr. Jack Brown’s analysis of Trump’s nonverbal cues following the arraignment interesting.
https://mstdn.social/@DrJackBrown/110153303773321547
Thank you, Rayne! I love this analysis–Dr. Brown even adds to the notorious “door not held for him” moment with his insights.
I don’t think you and I wouldn’t have expected to be discomposed by a door not being held open, because we’re not used to celebrity privilege let alone the privilege of cis-het white men who are believed to have money and/or are mobbed up and/or are used to being fawned over as a former POTUS. TFG needs to be discomfited more often to disabuse him of his privilege.
Secret Service protection means house arrest is really the only feasible choice, right? OTOH, the judge could pick the location for that, so I guess he could confine DT to his Manhattan home.
Here I was hoping the house arrest would be at a small house that will be right next to Ivana’s grave site. The only outside activity he is allowed is to maintain her grave site. Let him see the others playing golf as he is forced to sit on his butt and can only think of his stupid actions with the grave there to remind him just of how stupid they were.
House arrest? Detention of any kind?? Where do people come up with this bunk? I am serious, am totally speechless by this kind of baloney. Was it a joke? If so, why did so many people here engage in such ludicrous frivolity?
If I transfer money to friends or family and deduct that as a business expense, I’d better have received goods or services for which I would have paid that money at fair market value. Otherwise, it’s tax fraud. Isn’t Trump’s tax fraud as simple as treating Cohen’s “attorney’s fees” as a business expense when they were no such thing? That fraud did not benefit Cohen, who paid taxes on it, but did benefit Trump, if he did not. Isn’t that quite sufficient to bootstrap the §175.10 charges from misdemeanors to felonies? But then why didn’t Bragg charge the state tax fraud, too?
Um, no, that is absolute nonsense. If “you” did such conduct, you would likely receive a tax bill from your state department of revenue, if even that. There is not a chance in hell you would be charged criminally, much less to a bogusly enhanced felony level. Don’t make people here dumber, that is a rule.
If you were my tax lawyer, you’d tell me that there was not a chance in hell that I would get anything more than a bill if I declared a gift to be a business expense? I hope not.
My experience doesn’t match yours regarding Arizona prosecutorial lenience for tax fraud. Regardless, Arizona lenience might not apply to NY. It seems well within normal prosecutorial discretion to me, but you’re right: that may be what explains it not being charged (yet). Is it also true that for the felony enhancement that the prosecution does not need to convict on the crime that the §175.10 violation intends to conceal?
You are an internet troll in Seattle previously reported for internet abuse and DDOS activity. I do not believe you have one ounce of knowledge, nor experience, with either AZ or NY law. This is very much not the week to screw with us, you are done here.
This is truly crazy, a rather extreme ad hominem argument. I live in Northeast Iowa and the Lansing area in Michigan. If Ms. Wheeler authorizes you, email me, and I will provide you with my medical (M.D.) and law (J.D.) background information, which you can easily confirm online.
[Slow your roll. It’s clear you are using a VPN which routed your traffic through Washington and your identity attributes match content in Missouri and Iowa — yet you’re going on about state tax fraud in NY. We have ample reason to be suspicious given the kinds of trolls and provocateurs the site attracts. /~Rayne]
Lol, I don’t need authorization and, no, I am not going to email you. I note you did not even name the “federal judge in Phoenix” you claim to have clerked for. Take you time and try to find the most obscure and dead one you can, but I know, or have known, pretty much all of them.
And, sure, some cluck in Iowa, Missouri and/or Seattle, that can’t figure out if he is masking with a VPN or not, is the right person to talk about AZ and NY law. Again, this is the wrong week to screw with us. Get out of here.
Hey man, I worked this week at the state mental health facility, and just got off the phone with a friend who was asked by the Rolling Stones to come on stage with them, but declined. Anyways bmaz I just wanted to say even though I sometimes disagree…love you dawg.
If you can visit the Stones on stage…GO! I have been backstage with them, and on one of the stage wings for a round check. They are actually really decent and funny chaps.
For America
ABCs of society
fear palpable
hope still hangin
“and it’s Easter time too.”
Is faith in justice
still real?
America
Whole and shattered.
Just got off the phone with a friend from Tennessee! Support gun control!!!!! Reinstate, if need be but I don;t think that shit is legal they just think they did.
Recognizing that different legal minds will have widely varying opinions on the merits of this case, especially with the limited information available at this time, I thought this was an interesting analysis that addresses some of the questions you’re getting at:
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/04/opinion/donald-trump-alvin-bragg-indictment-charges.html
Tl’dr with respect to the tax question, the authors note that the impact of the tax shenanigans in this scheme is that the government received MORE money than it should have as a result of the falsified records, not less, and therefore would be a much dicier thing to charge.
The key here is the net tax effects of these transactions for each taxpayer, not the nominal marginal rate applicable to each transaction. See my comment below.
Cohen presumably paid tax, but on a grossed up amount, which left him whole and then some.
And, no, based on your example, unless the amounts were significant and you committed a pattern and practice of tax fraud, you wouldn’t be criminally prosecuted for it. You’d be dinged administratively and subject to more frequent audit, both potentially significant and expensive, or you’d be tried in a civil proceeding.
“…unless the amounts were significant and you committed a pattern and practice of tax fraud”
Isn’t that the honking elephant in the room? It is not so much the severity of these specific acts as the fact that Trump is a known compulsive liar and serial tax cheat and fraudster. Is the fact that he has been able to buy or obstruct his way out of previous consequences exculpatory?
Obviously not a lawyer, and I’m coming to agree more and more with bmaz, but from my readings I gather there are multiple possibilities to expand of the “falsifying” charges into felonies:
1.) Possible NY state tax fraud.
2.) A transaction we know (due to Cohen’s conviction) to be a felony against Federal election law. NY law is a little ambiguous about whether Federal laws count in this regard.
3.) To cover up “other illegal activity” under NY law. Not sure what it would be other than
my 1.) or 2.) above, but maybe Bragg has something up his sleeve.
4.) ~Skeptical glance~ Maybe conspiracy if that’s felonious all by itself – this assumes that NY laws will support this interpretation and they may not do so.
Also, Trump has probably obstructed justice and may have illegally threatened the DA, both of which could lead to additional charges. (Further, Donald Trump Jr. posted a picture of the judge’s daughter on Truth Social, so he may also end up before a judge.)
This means Bragg’s team would have to strike out at least three different times for a judge to say “none of these are felonies.” Not sure what to say beyond this, but let’s not pretend there aren’t multiple pathways for a judge to agree that at least one felony can be reasonably charged, and that each pathway to this outcome increases the overall chances. Once again, however, I’m generally starting to agree with bmaz about this set of charges – we’ll have to see whether Bragg brings the good stuff.
The problem is that none of those “possibilities” are actually charged in the indictment. Why, after all these years is that the case? How stupid is Bragg going to further look if he now tries to amend/supersede? Will he make yet another “golly I have new information” public rationalizing? Those are totally rhetorical questions, but ones that ought be kept in mind.
I think I’ve found the explanation for Bragg’s behavior, and I’d be very interested in having you read the whole thing and comment on it. It’s a piece by Norman Eisen (and a couple co-authors) which discusses the actual written laws of New York with regard to falsifying business records in the second degree (a misdemeanor) and what must be done, once again quoting New York’s written laws to turn it into falsifying business records in the first degree, which is a felony.
Most significantly, the piece also shows that this is commonly done in New York courtrooms, (which is probably why Bragg didn’t provide a longer explanation of why/what he was doing – the judge would have understood from context.) Bragg’s office has previously prosecuted nine of these cases. Eisen and his co-authors demonstrate that this is common practice in NY with a 22-page chart showing the last decade and a half of these cases as prosecuted in New York State. Note that the underlying crime which allows the “falsifying” charge to be increased to a second-degree felony does not have to be proved, as shown here, with references to specific legal cases:
24-page version here as PDF: https://www.justsecurity.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/survey-new-york-felony-falsification-of-business-records-just-security.pdf
Short version here: https://www.justsecurity.org/85605/survey-of-past-new-york-felony-prosecutions-for-falsifying-business-records/
I’ll give it a go. But, to date, my analysis has been light years better than the TV gadabouts like Eisen, Weissmann et. al at Just Security. So far, I’ll stay right where I have been from the very start. The Bragg show is a shit show.
I’m afraid there’s more. I found another article by Eisen and his cohort which includes multiple quotes from case law on this subject. The State of New York apparently applies this law very broadly, and will move from the misdemeanor to the felony version of the law given almost any excuse. For example:
Another very long read here, quoting several legal cases: https://www.justsecurity.org/85831/the-broad-scope-of-intent-to-defraud-in-the-new-york-crime-of-falsifying-business-records/
You are going to have to give more than continued bleating from Norm Eisen and Just Security, who are furiously scrambling to cover their early nonsense. Can you (or they) identify the other “enhancing” crime? Do you not think a defendant should know that from the freaking charging document? And, no, some made up diffuse “statement of facts” by Bragg is not sufficient. The discourse over this indictment is insane. And very bad.
bmaz, I would agree with you as to effect, but not to cause.
That is to say, if you dig into those stories, particularly the second I posted, you’ll find Eisen and friends quoting one legal case after another, all implying that New York uses “falsifying business records” as a sort of deliberately sloppy legal catchall which allows them to prosecute any number of behaviors, many of which should probably be made explicit as separate crimes. In short, it appears to be a vaguely written law for which lots of legal excuses have been made and will continue to be made.
So I don’t think Bragg is the problem so much as the deliberately muddied legal environment (in which he and the judge both swim like fish.*) And while your sense of justice is properly outraged by this it seems to be the way the system works in NY.
* Duuude! Why don’t you just overextend the metaphor a little further?
Eh, I will stay exactly where I have been from the start. If you want to bite off on the bleatings of Eisen et. al, have at it. Do not think I will be persuaded by their garbage though. So far, think my posit looks pretty good compared to theirs.
~shrugs~ They’ve quoted a lot more case law than you have… I guess we’ll have to see what happens.
Hmm. Very persuasive theory, Marcy. Pecker and the mystery witness followed Costello’s testimony. Here are some excerpts from a lengthy, detailed account and timeline of the case:
“Inside the long and winding road to Trump’s historic indictment” – WENY News, 4/1/23, Jeremy Herb, Kara Scannell and John Miller, CNN
…..
“Trump’s lawyers also made a last-ditch effort to fend off an indictment. At the behest of Trump’s team, Costello, who advised Cohen in 2018, provided emails and testified to the grand jury on Monday, March 20, alleging that Cohen had said in 2018 that he had decided on his own to make the payment to Daniels.”
…
“The grand jury would not meet again until Monday, March 27, when Pecker was ushered back to the grand jury in a government vehicle with tinted windows in a failed effort to evade detection by the media camped outside of the building where the grand jury meets.”
…..
“Two days after Pecker’s testimony, there were multiple reports that the grand jury was going into a pre-planned break in April. The grand jury was set to meet Thursday but it was not expected to hear the Trump case.”
“Instead, the grand jury heard from one last witness in the Trump case on Thursday, whose identity is still unknown. And then the grand jury shook up the American political system by voting to indict a former president and 2024 candidate for the White House.”
Oops, forgot this:
https://www.weny.com/story/48660226/inside-the-long-and-winding-road-to-trumps-historic-indictment
Excuse my ignorance, but where exactly does the “campaign contribution” come from? AMI money to McDougal that was not paid back? Cohen money to Stormy that was paid back (and doubled to cover taxes with fraudulent entries to conceal the nature of his income)? Was there some place I’m missing where actual campaign bank accounts or cash were involved? (or can deeds be considered campaign contributions? Or cash related to campaign purposes even if not throught he campaign?)
“Contribution in kind”
Payments by third parties can still count as campaign expenditures. Expenditures of a certain size are supposed to be reported. The payments to these women exceeded that amount. Therefore the falsifying of biz records, on its own a misdemeanor, becomes a felony because it was done to cover up another crime. At least that is how I understand the theory.
There are some parallels to the John Edwards case.
I have the same question as Nord Dakota: the funds came out of the Trump Org, right? This was because individual 1 was too cheap to use his personal funds. Was he then, per se, giving his campaign an illegal contribution because he was doing this to influence the election? And why does the amount matter if the contribution was already illegal?
Estragon, who is the third party in your comment, individual 1 becomes the third party? Very confusing.
Forget about the funny accounting/reimbursement for a minute.
Cohen and pecker, third parties (ie not the campaign) pay off these women for their silence. They are effectively providing something of value to the campaign (“in kind”).
The payments themselves aren’t illegal per se. It’s the concealment/non-reporting of payments (federal election law) and the cooking the books (state law biz records).
Yes. Each leg or facet of these transactions has different effects. One facet, for example, is that Cohen and Pecker made payments to third parties. Another facet is that Trump ordered those payments be made not for a personal benefit, but for the benefit of his campaign.
Still another facet is that Trump reimbursed Cohen and Pecker for all or part of those payments, grossed up for tax purposes and to hide the character of the payments. He did so not through his campaign, but through personal, trust, and privately-held corporate accounts.
Each of those facets generates accounting and tax consequences. But the net effect was to contribute toward Trump’s campaign – the gem surrounded by those facets – and an entity separate from his person, his trusts, and his various privately-held companies.
By 2016, that sort of structure had become second nature to Trump, who’d been playing similar games to cheat the tax man for decades. The rub is that until he ran for president, he had always been the gem. He thinks he still is. Conveniently for investigators, Trump hadn’t much patience for the details required to keep even part of such schemes legit.
Oh, I see from reading a NYTimes article that Cohen was the third party.
“Federal and state campaign laws require reporting of campaign-related payments, and if they are made by third parties coordinating with the candidate, such as Mr. Cohen, they are subject to certain limits. Mr. Cohen’s payment to Ms. Daniels before the 2016 presidential election was well beyond the federal legal limit.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/04/nyregion/trump-hush-money-charges.html
So the amount Cohen passes on to Stormy is beyond the federal legal limit. I think that TFG signed these checks when he was president, really will affect the public’s perception of all this. It may not be a legal issue, but that fact will be circulated over and over again. And the evidence which points to TFG telling Cohen to slow the roll of the payment is also interesting.
Cohen is “Lawyer A”.
The SOF says the payment came from Individual 1’s personal bank account. He washed it through the org so that his name wouldn’t be on the check given to Stormy, so that’s why they came up with the scheme to pay Cohen bogus legal fees.
Aside from the in kind contribution, I wonder if the fact that DT partly self-funded his 2016 campaign means that any personal funds spent illegally to assist his campaign count as an illegal campaign contribution.
It was the intent behind these efforts. It was not to hide Trump’s interactions with Stormy Daniels or McDougal or the hush money to them from Trump’s wife and family, but to prevent Trump’s interactions with Daniels/McDougal from becoming publicly known during the course of his campaign.
IOW, these were campaign activities. They were not paid out of campaign funds, though, but through an unreported and excessive donation.
Sorry, I did not read your comment before posting above.
So, legally, who was making the excessive donation? Cohen?
That’s what Cohen pleaded to. https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/michael-cohen-pleads-guilty-manhattan-federal-court-eight-counts-including-criminal-tax
As I understand it
– Cohen and Pecker made illegal ‘in-kind’ donations
– Trump and Trump Org created fake business records to conceal these transactions
What puts this case beyond John Edwards’ may be the tax fraud. I don’t think Edwards tried to reduce his tax liability by deducting the payments as a business expense.
The super short version of my prior comment is that Michael Cohen’s tax liability was increased as a result of the falsification, not decreased. Which apparently is driving why the tax fraud is referenced as a criminal act but is not currently being charged.
Plus, while the marginal rate on that much income would be high, Cohen’s final tax bill would have been affected by his other income and deductions, which might yield less tax than the nominal marginal rate on just that portion of the income from Trump.
Ditto on the flip side, regarding its effects on the Trump entities that made the payments.
As I understand it, and that understanding may be faulty (IANAL…), Edwards was charged, but because his putative motive wasn’t proved to the jury, they deadlocked. Edwards apparently continued payments after his campaign had folded, which cast doubt on the prosecution’s theory that the payments were campaign contributions intended to buy off the recipient’s silence.
With Trump, there’s no such question; recordings of Trump, Pecker, and Cohen make the intent clear.
I know, I know, it’s the NYPost. But it does seem to indicate that Trump is paying a Democrat (who is also a woman!) to represent him. She seems like a very interesting person, too!
“Trump’s female lawyer Susan Necheles voted for Hillary Clinton, represented NXIVM leader” – By Isabel Vincent, 4/4/23
https://nypost.com/2023/04/04/trump-lawyer-susan-necheles-defended-corrupt-democratic-pols/
Savage, Thanks, interesting story abt Necheles, an hispanic, female democrat too old for trump to hit on, not his legal “type”, shows he’s rightfully scared of whats happening. Article described Joey Tacos as slimy and questionable rep, they thought trump hadn’t adequately vetted him. I think they missed the point, thats the type of lawyer trump appreciates!
And…she also defended Weisselberg in the Trump Org case and lost. Great track record – Raniere (probably indefensible anyway) and Trump’s CFO.
OT for this thread, but surely not for this site. Pence will not fight order to testify to Jack Smith’s GJ.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/05/us/politics/pence-jan-6-testimony.html
Let’s see how cooperative Mikey is and how complete is his memory before giving him credit for finally being forced to do the right thing.
At least he should remember the stuff in his book.
According to the reports SC Smith will be asking about the pre-J6 planning to limit the ‘executive privilege’ claims but I also see Pence’s lawyer saying there are (unspecified) topics Pence won’t discuss.
Pence still has a fantasy that he can be the GOP nominee, but maybe he’s angling to be Veep again. However, there is no way Defendant-1 will tap Pence for that post after J6 because of ‘disloyalty’, and now that D-1 knows he doesn’t need Pence to get the evangelical votes.
As for Pence’s intrinsic electability, this is a guy who declined to run for Governor in IN because he already knew he would lose. Being a weaselly hypocrite will do that
I wonder if the Grand Jury asked David Pecker anything about Kacy Grine and MBS. It would be some kind of bizarre synchronicity if Gavin DeBecker or Jeff Bezos provided any witness testimony. Seems unlikely, wishful thinking most likely…
After looking at the indictment with names filled in, it seems more likely that Weisselberg or someone from the accounting side of things might be the mystery witness:
“Here’s the Trump Indictment With Actual Names Added: The identities of many of those allegedly involved weren’t included in Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg’s document”
By WSJ Staff
Updated April 5, 2023 4:08 pm ET
https://s.wsj.net/public/resources/documents/DonaldJTrumpIndictment-annotated-040423.pdf
FWIW, Murdoch will have to testify in the Dominion lawsuit, per ABC.
With the Russians dealing with a long war and sanctions, that source of funds is probably decreasing for Trump. I wonder what the state of his finances is at this point? If he is dependent on his cult for funds, how long does that source last?
I haven’t seen any arguments that Trump is a good person, nor that he did not commit these acts to achieve a wrongful purpose. bmaz may be correct. This prosecution may be defective on procedural or evidentiary grounds. That’s not an unusual way of defending a white collar criminal. And it works.
Russians may not be Trump’s only source. Just look at LIV golf for alternatives income streams.
IANAL. Michael Cohen was charged and pled guilty in SDNY to tax fraud AND federal election law violations, implicating Individual-1. SDNY never charged Individual-1 for election law violations. As I read Alvin Bragg’s statement of facts, it described a “conspiracy” between and among trump, Cohen, Pecker, Stormy, Karen McDougall, the Doorman and CFO Weisselberg to keep trump’s sexual escapades hidden from the voting public prior to November 2016. Pecker and Weisselberg were given immunity by SDNY (I believe) but that does not erase the conspiracy. (It only takes two for a conspiracy and even if there were more than two, the conspirators need only further one or more aspect of the plot). Bragg did not charge conspiracy. Again, IANAL, but Costello’s communication with Cohen strikes me as witness tampering.
Bragg’s “statement of facts” is complete bullshit and worth nothing. Did you see conspiracy in the actual charging document? No, of course not. Let me know when it is actually identified and charged. Not to mention the enhancing predicate. Distinctions matter.
Why is the statement of facts bullshit? That seems conclusory without supporting analysis of the facts and the law. Do you have any analysis or facts that indicate that it is false? What is your problem with it?
Lol, because it has no meaning. Is it part of the actual indictment allegations and necessary elements thereof? No. It may as well be a press release, because that is what it is. Potential evidence at some point? Maybe, but not necessarily.
Sure it has meaning. It provides a public statement as to what is behind the indictment. You may not like politics, but that clearly is going to be part of this process whether Bragg or you like it or not.
If you read the comments here in this thread and the last couple related to the Manhattan D.A.’s case, you might already have an answer. Dropping in every four years to stir up shit with bmaz once again just because you can’t be bothered to read and/or find a hobby isn’t going to fly.
I did read the comments. BMAZ hasn’t explained much. The statement of facts has no meaning? Is that all there is?
Possibly witness tampering, but that would have been in the Federal case against Cohen, so irrelevant to the NY case.
I read a report that Pecker’s testimony linked it to the campaign. There were statements, invitations and other favors extended in thanks for Pecker’s help with the campaign.