“Folksy and Firm” Flummoxes Fancy NYT Journalists

Less than 10 days ago, Keith Alexander admitted to Patrick Leahy that the single solitary case in which the phone dragnet proved critical was that of Basaaly Moalin. But that was not an attack. Rather, it was an effort to send money to al-Shabaab (and others) because they were protecting Somalia against a US backed Ethiopian invasion.

And yet two crack “journalists” used this as the lead of their “interview” with Alexander with not a hint of pushback.

The director of the National Security Agency, Gen. Keith B. Alexander, said in an interview that to prevent terrorist attacks he saw no effective alternative to the N.S.A.’s bulk collection of telephone and other electronic metadata from Americans.

The phone dragnet has never — never! — been more than one tool in preventing any attack, and yet Alexander gets to imply, unchallenged, it is critical going forward.

Instead of actual reporting, we get platitudes like this.

General Alexander was by turns folksy and firm in the interview. But he was unapologetic about the agency’s strict culture of secrecy and unabashed in describing its importance to defending the nation.

That culture is embodied by two installations that greet visitors to Fort Meade. One is a wall to honor N.S.A. personnel killed on overseas missions. The other is a tribute to the Enigma program, the code-breaking success that helped speed the end of World War II and led to the creation of the N.S.A. The intelligence community kept Enigma secret for three decades.

The only thing remotely resembling a challenge came when these “reporters” note Alexander’s claim to have willingly shut down the Internet metadata program (which the NSA has largely kept secret, in spite of having been disclosed) ignores NSA claims it (like the phone dragnet now, purportedly) was critical.

But he said the agency had not told its story well. As an example, he said, the agency itself killed a program in 2011 that collected the metadata of about 1 percent of all of the e-mails sent in the United States. “We terminated it,” he said. “It was not operationally relevant to what we needed.”

However, until it was killed, the N.S.A. had repeatedly defended that program as vital in reports to Congress.

The rest consists of more of the same kind of rebuttal by redefinition. The claim that NSA shares data with Israel is wrong, this “journalism” says, because “the probability of American content in the shared data was extremely small” (which of course says nothing about the way it would violate minimization procedures in any case). The claim that NSA launched 200 offensive cyberattacks in 2011 is wrong because many of those were actually other “electronic missions.” Besides, Alexander claims,

“I see no reason to use offensive tools unless you’re defending the country or in a state of war, or you want to achieve some really important thing for the good of the nation and others,” he said. [my link, for shits and giggles]

We are not now nor were we in 2006 when StuxNet started “in a state of war” with Iran, so how credible are any of these claims?

Mostly though, this appears to be an attempt, four months after highlighting the importance of PRISM against cyberattacks but then going utterly silent about that function, to reassert the importance of NSA’s hacking to prevent hacking.

Even there, though, Alexander presented dubious claims that got no challenge.

General Alexander said that confronting what he called the two biggest threats facing the United States — terrorism and cyberattacks — would require the application of expanded computer monitoring. In both cases, he said, he was open to much of that work being done by private industry, which he said could be more efficient than government.

In fact, he said, a direct government role in filtering Internet traffic into the United States, in an effort to stop destructive attacks on Wall Street, American banks and the theft of intellectual property, would be inefficient and ineffective.

“I think it leads people to the wrong conclusion, that we’re reading their e-mails and trying to listen to their phone calls,” he said.

The NSA already is filtering Internet traffic into the United States (and also searching on and reading incidentally collected Internet traffic without a warrant) under Section 702 certificates supporting counterterrorism, counterproliferation and … cyberattacks.

But nosiree, Alexander can’t envision doing what he’s already doing — and had been doing in a way that violated statute and the Fourth Amendment for three years already by 2011 — in the name of protecting the banksters who’ve gutted our economy. Only all of that — including the retention of US person data in the name of protecting property (presumably including intellectual property) is baked right into the NSA’s minimization procedures.

And that bit about violating Section 702 and the Fourth Amendment for over three years with a practice that was also baked into NSA’s minimization procedures? Here’s the claim the NYT’s crack journalists allow Alexander to end this charade with.

“We followed the law, we follow our policies, we self-report, we identify problems, we fix them,” he said. “And I think we do a great job, and we do, I think, more to protect people’s civil liberties and privacy than they’ll ever know.”

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18 replies
  1. lake effect snow says:

    this is EXACTLY why Edward Snowden REFUSED to share ANYTHING with the nyt !!! that rag is nothing but a water carrying subservient pos for the usa usg to wipe its ass with.

  2. Big Bob w says:

    @P J Evans: @par4:
    Both Alexander and Clapper need to be brought to justice.

    Question to the legal minds out there in Wheelandia:

    Is there any legal mechanism for John/Jane Q Public to initiate legal proceedings against these guys? For example, can a private citizen bring a lawsuit against someone who has clearly lied to Congress? Or someone who has violated the 4th amendment? How does this work within the letter of the law?

    (I think this is the first time I’ve written this question here, but it’s been on my mind for a while now, so if it’s a repeat, I apologize)

  3. der says:

    Is Brazil an adversary?

    – “General Alexander, who became the N.S.A. director in 2005, will retire early next year.”

    – “terrorism and cyberattacks — would require the application of expanded computer monitoring. In both cases, he said, he was open to much of that work being done by private industry, which he said could be more efficient than government.”

    And the lawyers for Hayden-Alexander will work out dotting the i’s and crossing the t’s just about the time Congress decides to privatize border free cyber spying so we the people can go back to shopping and stop scaring the horses and children with our demanding oversight hyper-reactivity. The photo of The Supreme Leader hanging the Freedom Medal around General Keith’s neck on the green screen, at the mall. Good men, one and all.

    And that informed right decision he thinks the country should come to is the one he says this guy is wrong on?

    – “This is not about any sort of particular program, this is about a trend in the relationship between the governing and the governed in America,” Snowden said speaking about the government transparency situation in the US. “That is increasingly coming into conflict with what we expect as a free and democratic people. If we can’t understand the policies and the programs of our government, we cannot grant our consent in regulating them.” http://rt.com/news/snowden-award-wikileaks-video-093/

    Wonder how Ridley Scott’s Good Wife will spin this cheek kissing? Hollywood commie appeasing traitor.

  4. Greg Bean (@GregLBean) says:

    “we do, I think, more to protect people’s civil liberties and privacy than they’ll ever know”

    I kind of like the formulation of this contradiction. It’s just so damning.

    But, it also shows the root of the problem. Alexander truly does not understand that what he and NSA is doing is not only illegal but completely immoral.

    I like to use a phrase, “the moral’s of a dog on a putting green” to explain this kind of behavior; a complete lack of understanding that what they are doing is wrong. What dog would hesitate to dig a hole, take a dump or urinate on a putting green? It just couldn’t comprehend why it should not do that.

    And so we have Alexander, his behavior and his proud boast that “we are protecting your civil liberties and privacy more than you will ever know” completely unaware he is actually doing just the opposite.

    We see this type of behavior in many people. Friends who lie because they believe that is the correct thing to do rather than reveal a painful truth, people who discriminate because they truly believe they are better than others, etc.

    It is always a very sad moment when I realize I am dealing with a person exhibiting this naive ignorance. It is quite frightening when I see it in public figures.

    Alexander may never be enlightened, how he got to where he is speaks volumes about those who support him.

  5. Greg Bean (@GregLBean) says:

    @Snoopdido: “In their court filing, the defense lawyers argued that the use of NSA eavesdropping authority employed in their case “would be beyond the scope of anything authorized by Congress or approved by the (Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court) – unless of course that is the subject of another set of secret procedures and protocols yet to be exposed and subsequently acknowledged.”

    That puts the NSA between a rock and a hard place. Either what was done is illegal or they have to reveal more secret interpretations to prove it is legal.

  6. orionATL says:

    the only question about alexander that still interests me is:

    could he be sufficiently delusional/obsessed with his pygmalion that be actually believes what he keeps telling congresscattle and reporters like david bumiller – opps – sanger?

    “we do more to protect people’s civil liberties….”. this statement only makes sense if he is speaking entirely from within the ti y world of his creation – or if he is brazenly lying.

    i’m beginning to shift to the delusion/obsessed/possesed viewpoint.

    the guy’s photos uniformly show a slight, focused stare.

    methinks:

    1) this general badly needs an exorcist.

    2) this general – and a good general, too, no doubt – has absolutely no business being left in charge of a government institution as dangerous as the nsa.

    of course it is rude to ask, but does alexander by any chance have any history of mental difficulties during his long career?

  7. C says:

    @Greg Bean (@GregLBean): That’s why they have fought so hard against anyone having standing and why they engage in such parallel construction in the DEA cases. They don’t want to have to do either. And, based upon Marcy’s analysis what they have released already does not help their case. I suspect they really have nothing except “the president told us so.”

  8. Nell says:

    The reporters are unnamed in EW’s post, and I’m unwilling to use up my free articles reading stenography for NSA to find out. Am I right in guessing from tweets and some commenters here that the story was written by David Sanger and Eric Schmitt?

    Just yesterday, I saw someone quoting Sanger saying publicly that the Obama WH is “the most closed and control-freak administration” he’s experienced. Big talk from someone given a major chance to do a little opening-up! But instead of challenging Alexander with fact-checking, follow-up questions, and challenges to those “folksy and firm” responses, he… sits quietly and asks his next question. Freaking poser.

  9. thatvisionthing says:

    General Alexander was by turns folksy and firm in the interview. But he was unapologetic about the agency’s strict culture of secrecy and unabashed in describing its importance to defending the nation.

    That culture is embodied by two installations that greet visitors to Fort Meade. One is a wall to honor N.S.A. personnel killed on overseas missions. The other is a tribute to the Enigma program, the code-breaking success that helped speed the end of World War II and led to the creation of the N.S.A. The intelligence community kept Enigma secret for three decades.

    I’m not sure who I’m furious at here, is it Alexander describing or is it the NYT imputing that this is like the Enigma program?

    You know how Ted Cruz got in trouble and had to apologize recently to survivors of the Bataan death march when he said that his filibuster was like the Bataan death march?

    I don’t even know if I have the right to be furious, but I am, and when I try to think of how many hops away I am from the right to be personally furious I really don’t know how to figure it. My dad. He was a farm kid who joined the Navy after Pearl Harbor. He was a plank holder on the U.S.S. Jenks, which was part of the task force that captured U-505. It was the Jenks that split off and carried the U-505’s Enigma machine and code books ahead to Bermuda, and it was my dad below decks in the engine room who helped make the Jenks go. There’s a Navy film about the capture but that part isn’t mentioned: http://archive.org/details/NowItCanBeToldU-505Capture My sisters and brothers and I weren’t even born yet, and Daddy didn’t talk a lot about that time, but he was in the Navy for 30 years and we grew up as Navy brats. For Alexander or Sanger or Shankar to even SUGGEST that what the NSA is doing is like what my dad fought for is

    I can’t find the words and Daddy’s gone now so he can’t spit.

    http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/united-stasi-of-america-artist-wanted-by-berlin-police-a-910818.html

  10. earlofhuntingdon says:

    The world is an adversary, if you like, if tracking and “analyzing” its data increases unaccountable power and wealth. But it’s an important point that the US is attempting to track global data streams, not just those of US persons. Enhanced security resulting therefrom is a chimera, and likely much rarer than mistakes and the resultant damage caused others. Such a phenomenal and phenomenally expensive program – details secret – is a new global growth industry.

  11. Tom in AZ says:

    So, when he retires next year, will he be heading a ‘promising new start-up’ or just land softly at one existing new privateers doing this work more efficiently?

  12. William Fuller says:

    Gen Alexander should be fired and then indicted for crimes against the American people. Same for Clapper, but Clapper deserves like being tarred and feathered and ridden out of Washington on a rail. What despicable trash.
    There is something wrong in our military when the fawners and gofers consistently get promoted and the truly capable, patriotic people are passed over.
    Get the Israelis out of the Pentagon as a starter.

  13. orionATL says:

    the news is out

    all over town

    soon we won’t have keith

    to kick around.

    just trustin’ him

    was our great sin

    but what could we do

    he was Power’s friend.

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